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Hi -

I had my gallbladder removed about 5 years ago. I was able to have the

surgery that is done laparascopically through 3 small incisions. I went

home the next day and spent about 2 weeks recuperating. For about 3 months

afterwards I had a small " stitch in the side " feeling on that side, but it

eventually went away.

My grandmother had the more extensive surgery done 2 years ago. She had a

very bad gallbladder attack and had to have emergency surgery because her

duct was blocked. She was 95 at the time. I'd say it took her the better

part of 6 months to recuperate fully from the surgery. She'll be 97 in

about a week.

Neither of us had any complications.

Anne

Gallstones

On Friday my husband had a really bad gallbladder attack. We both thought

he

was having a heart attack because it mimics the same symptoms. I had to

call

911 and they came and took him to the hospital. Anyway he is doing okay

although he can hardly eat anything without having some pain about an hour

later. They did an ultrasound and the doctor said his gallbladder and the

duct running down from it are packed with stones.

He will probably have it removed but I have been reading about some people

on

the net that just do a cleanse of olive oil and lemon juice. Has anybody on

this list done this? If so what were your results? Also have any of you

had

your gallbladder removed and have you had any complications from it. I

would

love to hear any and all experiences.

Thanks in advance,

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I've used an olive oil and lemon juice " Gall Bladder Flush " for years. It

originally came from a Chiropractor I was seeing back then. I believe

the original source is an Australian Doctor. Anyway, I've never had any

problem with my gall bladder. No pain. No diagnosis. When I use the

flush, you can see pea-shaped and colored thingees floating in the water.

It's not painful. Just stay home 'til everything is cleared out. -- And

hold your nose while downing the concoction. The recipe is:

At bedtime:

5 oz. Classic Coke

6 oz. virgin olive oil

2 tbsp lemon juice.

Stir well and drink quickly.

Next morning:

1 10 oz . bottle Citrate of Magnesia. Stay home. Comes through in about

2 hours.

According to one copy of the directions, the recipe " flushes the Perkuffer

Cells of the liver. They are 'dirty' and solids will precipitate out of

the bile to produce stones. " I don't have a source for this quotation.

At 07:33 PM 7/23/00 -0400, you wrote:

>On Friday my husband had a really bad gallbladder attack. We both thought he

>was having a heart attack because it mimics the same symptoms. I had to call

>911 and they came and took him to the hospital. Anyway he is doing okay

>although he can hardly eat anything without having some pain about an hour

>later. They did an ultrasound and the doctor said his gallbladder and the

>duct running down from it are packed with stones.

>

>He will probably have it removed but I have been reading about some people on

>the net that just do a cleanse of olive oil and lemon juice. Has anybody on

>this list done this? If so what were your results? Also have any of you had

>your gallbladder removed and have you had any complications from it. I would

>love to hear any and all experiences.

>Thanks in advance,

>

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In a message dated 07/23/2000 4:34:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

rachel768@... writes:

<< He will probably have it removed but I have been reading about some people

on

the net that just do a cleanse of olive oil and lemon juice. Has anybody on

this list done this? >>

I just read about this within the last month on another list and the person

said it worked for them. I saw the recipe posted here, but I do not remember

coke being one of the ingredients. I could be wrong. They also shared that

their you know what the next day was prettttttyy gross, but that it really

helped them.

Meniowl@...

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(last A1c 5.3)

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Meni, I remember reading that too but I just can't remember where.

Personally, I think I would try most anything to avoid surgery again.

Love ya girl!

Tootie

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In a message dated 07/23/2000 4:34:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

rachel768@... writes:

<< He will probably have it removed but I have been reading about some

people

on

the net that just do a cleanse of olive oil and lemon juice. Has anybody

on

this list done this? >>

I just read about this within the last month on another list and the

person

said it worked for them. I saw the recipe posted here, but I do not

remember

coke being one of the ingredients. I could be wrong. They also shared

that

their you know what the next day was prettttttyy gross, but that it really

helped them.

Meniowl@...

type2,dx7/99,low-carbs & water aerobics

(last A1c 5.3)

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I had my gall bladder removed almost 40 years ago! The bile duct was packed

with tiny stones and there was a real chance of damage to my pancreas and to my

liver. It was so long ago, that it is pointless to compare procedures with

today.

If the stones are large they just sit there in the gall bladder. But if they

are small, they can travel and can cause all sorts of damage.

Don't fool around with olive oil etc.

Get the gall bladder out. Make sure the ducts are all clear. That will

probably mean being monitored for a few days to make sure that the bile flows

freely and is not being obstructed by tiny stones.

He does not " need " the gall bladder. And he sure as hell does not need the

excruciating pain .

Good luck

Elka

Type2, Glyburide 5mg, chromium, diet, exercise and chocolate

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, I had my gallbladder out at Mayo Clinic in 1984. I have had

alot

of trouble since then with the runs if I eat very much fat. I tried

the

flush when the website with instructions were listed on here a few

months ago. I thought that since it was basically olive oil and lemon

juice it could not hurt....WRONG! I had bowel movements of pure blood

for a whole day. I haven't tried it again.

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Hi, , I can emphasize with you. We went through this last November. My

husband had already made made one trip to the emergency room but right after

thanksgiving he ended up in the hospital with a severe attack. ( he looked at

the Thanksgiving dinner and threw up but it really wasn't that bad. The next

night he had severe pains. The hospital doctors tried the less invasive

procedure but they eventually had to do the operation the old fashioned way. He

was also suffering from pancraeatitis (sp.) and had been diagnosed as a diabetic

(much to my surprise when the nurse said that his diabetes was under excellent

control--first I'd heard about that) Eight months later he's doing fine--working

at a recycling facility where he's on his feet eight hours a day. He's tired

when he comes home and sometimes he's laughed at because he drags rather than

carries heavy loads but he's doing fine. He also no longer seems to have

problems with his blood sugar though the doctor is watching carefully. Modern

medicine can be wonderful. Olive oil and lemon juice is only for people with

minor problems. My prayers are with you and I hope everything goes well.

rachel768@... wrote:

> On Friday my husband had a really bad gallbladder attack. We both thought he

> was having a heart attack because it mimics the same symptoms. I had to call

> 911 and they came and took him to the hospital. Anyway he is doing okay

> although he can hardly eat anything without having some pain about an hour

> later. They did an ultrasound and the doctor said his gallbladder and the

> duct running down from it are packed with stones.

>

> He will probably have it removed but I have been reading about some people on

> the net that just do a cleanse of olive oil and lemon juice. Has anybody on

> this list done this? If so what were your results? Also have any of you had

> your gallbladder removed and have you had any complications from it. I would

> love to hear any and all experiences.

> Thanks in advance,

>

>

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<< He will probably have it removed but I have been reading about some

people on

the net that just do a cleanse of olive oil and lemon juice. Has anybody on

this list done this? If so what were your results? >>

There is a typical gallbladder attack scenario. It is often a person who ate

a fairly high-fat diet. This person's gallbladder is pretty active active,

trying to handle the fat. Then the person goes on a low-fat diet, but the

gallbladder is still working overtime, out of habit, and it solidifies and

plugs the bile duct. As long as the person remains on a low-fat diet, things

will seem pretty much okay. But then that person splurges on a high-fat

meal, e.g., pizza, and winds up in the ER at 3 a.m. I have heard of that

cleanse on the internet too, but will it work for actual gallstones?

I'm sure you have read up on lithotripsy? (I haven't.) That's a machine that

pulverizes the stones into little grains. But - duh - I think they only use

that for kidney stones, so that hopefully they can be eliminated during

urination.

Susie

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In a message dated 08/11/2000 2:06:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

rachel768@... writes:

<< The biggest difference is that he drinks a lot of coffee and I don't

drink any. If that was the cause maybe I will luck out. >>

Glad it went well with his surgery. I would like to see the pics. Can't be

any more gross than the stuff Susie sent one time on gangrene feet. If

nothing else it sure makes you think about eating the wrong foods that will

raise your blood sugars!! I think that since your hubby drinks coffee he

probably does not drink water as much. I wonder if that played into it.

Meniowl@...

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Dear ,

I'm relieved your husband was able to have his gallbladder removed by

laparoscope. I hope his recovery continues smoothly. When I had my wisdom

teeth removed, I saved them. I would like to have them drilled and connected

by a little gold chain, hang them on French hooks and wear them as dangly

earrings. Maybe something similar for those fascinating gallstones, eh?

Susie :o)

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SUSIE! YOU NUT! ROTFLMAO!

My Home Nursing teacher in high school had her gallbladder removed and wore

the stones encased in some type of acrylic looking pendant hung on a gold

chain everyday. We had to hear about her surgery at least once each week.

GROSS! I sure was glad when I finished that class. <still giggling>

Love you girl!

Tootie

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Dear ,

I'm relieved your husband was able to have his gallbladder removed by

laparoscope. I hope his recovery continues smoothly. When I had my wisdom

teeth removed, I saved them. I would like to have them drilled and

connected

by a little gold chain, hang them on French hooks and wear them as dangly

earrings. Maybe something similar for those fascinating gallstones, eh?

Susie :o)

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