Re: My fire started the forest fire

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Dear

May I quote you?

" And finally, every problem is luxury "

And may I add:

What the hell??

On what planet are you living?

I . L. W. Y , T

-- Re: Re: My fire started the forest fire

>> Just like slicing a golf ball out-of-bounds off the tee. A

>> peaceful

>> event until I add my stories of what a hopeless golfer I am, and

>> how

>> I will never be any good at this damn game. My only real problem

>> is

>> my unquestioned thinking, but it's sure hard to realize this when

>> I

>> lose my ball in the water, ... forward to losing my ball in the

>> water or going to jail, I will have

>> truly undone my painful beliefs around those events.

> dear ltwobk

>

> i would feel ashamed with such a luxury problem.

Oh well,

" pain is pain " - remember?

In the moment I am in pain, I don't care *how* unreasonable it is.

And finally, every problem is luxury.

Love,

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Are you being cynical when you say kindness, vivian?

I would define it as a mixture of honesty and humor

But that is my story of me :-)

P.s, I am in love with

Why am I saying that?

Just because I feel like sharing

-- Re: Re: My fire started the forest fire

so much kindness directed toward strangers on this board. would be SO

proud of what is being accomplished.

Vivian

Re: Re: My fire started the forest fire

>> Just like slicing a golf ball out-of-bounds off the tee. A

>> peaceful

>> event until I add my stories of what a hopeless golfer I am, and

>> how

>> I will never be any good at this damn game. My only real problem

>> is

>> my unquestioned thinking, but it's sure hard to realize this when

>> I

>> lose my ball in the water, ... forward to losing my ball in the

>> water or going to jail, I will have

>> truly undone my painful beliefs around those events.

> dear ltwobk

>

> i would feel ashamed with such a luxury problem.

Oh well,

" pain is pain " - remember?

In the moment I am in pain, I don't care *how* unreasonable it is.

And finally, every problem is luxury.

Love,

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I think you've got it..

loving what is that is..

my friend said she would do the work.. if it started to work for me..

unfortunately I dont think I have really worked the work..

as im not there yet.

Its inspiring to read your emails..

thanks roslyn

-- In Loving-what-is , " " wrote:

>

> I don't think it matters if the story is true or not.

>

> What matters is if I am at peace when the thought flows through my

mind.

>

> And I am at peace with the thought I started the forest fire.

>

> I am at peace with the thought of going to jail.

>

> I am at peace with the thought of a fine and/or restitution I don't

> right now have the money to pay.

>

> I am at peace with these thoughts.

>

> I invite more thoughts to flow in, and I'll play with them,

investigate

> them, til they too don't make waves.

>

> Or even if they do make waves, why, that's just another story.

>

> LIFE = STORY LAND

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> I am at peace with the thought of going to jail.

>

> I am at peace with the thought of a fine and/or restitution I

> don't right now have the money to pay.

>

> I am at peace with these thoughts.

>

Yes, going to jail and paying a fine are what is, all quite

peaceful. It's the unquestioned stories I run about going to jail

and paying fines that cause all my pain.

Just like slicing a golf ball out-of-bounds off the tee. A peaceful

event until I add my stories of what a hopeless golfer I am, and how

I will never be any good at this damn game. My only real problem is

my unquestioned thinking, but it's sure hard to realize this when I

lose my ball in the water, or someone locks me in a jail cell for a

fire I may not have even started. I guess that when I genuinely look

forward to losing my ball in the water or going to jail, I will have

truly undone my painful beliefs around those events.

Have a beautiful day

" There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

Byron

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It doesn't happen overnight. And for many people it hardly happens at all. At

least that is what I think I've seen. says you can get to the point where

the Work undoes us automatically whether we want it to or not. That would be the

goal.

Vivian

Re: My fire started the forest fire

I think you've got it..

loving what is that is..

my friend said she would do the work.. if it started to work for me..

unfortunately I dont think I have really worked the work..

as im not there yet.

Its inspiring to read your emails..

thanks roslyn

-- In Loving-what-is , " " wrote:

>

> I don't think it matters if the story is true or not.

>

> What matters is if I am at peace when the thought flows through my

mind.

>

> And I am at peace with the thought I started the forest fire.

>

> I am at peace with the thought of going to jail.

>

> I am at peace with the thought of a fine and/or restitution I don't

> right now have the money to pay.

>

> I am at peace with these thoughts.

>

> I invite more thoughts to flow in, and I'll play with them,

investigate

> them, til they too don't make waves.

>

> Or even if they do make waves, why, that's just another story.

>

> LIFE = STORY LAND

>

[Guest guest]

> Just like slicing a golf ball out-of-bounds off the tee. A

peaceful

> event until I add my stories of what a hopeless golfer I am, and

how

> I will never be any good at this damn game. My only real problem

is

> my unquestioned thinking, but it's sure hard to realize this when

I

> lose my ball in the water, ... forward to losing my ball in the

water or going to jail, I will have

> truly undone my painful beliefs around those events.

dear ltwobk

i would feel ashamed with such a luxury problem.

from minute five on/wards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWATIcUsaO4

lr

>

> Have a beautiful day

>

>

> " There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

> Byron

>

[Guest guest]

>> Just like slicing a golf ball out-of-bounds off the tee. A

>> peaceful

>> event until I add my stories of what a hopeless golfer I am, and

>> how

>> I will never be any good at this damn game. My only real problem

>> is

>> my unquestioned thinking, but it's sure hard to realize this when

>> I

>> lose my ball in the water, ... forward to losing my ball in the

>> water or going to jail, I will have

>> truly undone my painful beliefs around those events.

> dear ltwobk

>

> i would feel ashamed with such a luxury problem.

Oh well,

" pain is pain " - remember?

In the moment I am in pain, I don't care *how* unreasonable it is.

And finally, every problem is luxury.

Love,

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Well, because every problem is an illusion. Problems are not real,

and everyone has that knowledge.

And sometimes one keeps himself from the access to that knowledge.

Answering the four questions reminds us of that.

Love,

Am 05.09.2006 um 12:48 schrieb Tami:

> Dear

>

> May I quote you?

>

> " And finally, every problem is luxury "

>

> And may I add:

>

> What the hell??

>

> On what planet are you living?

>

> I . L. W. Y , T

>

> -- Re: Re: My fire started the forest fire

>

>>> Just like slicing a golf ball out-of-bounds off the tee. A

>>> peaceful

>>> event until I add my stories of what a hopeless golfer I am, and

>>> how

>>> I will never be any good at this damn game. My only real problem

>>> is

>>> my unquestioned thinking, but it's sure hard to realize this when

>>> I

>>> lose my ball in the water, ... forward to losing my ball in the

>>> water or going to jail, I will have

>>> truly undone my painful beliefs around those events.

>> dear ltwobk

>>

>> i would feel ashamed with such a luxury problem.

> Oh well,

>

> " pain is pain " - remember?

>

> In the moment I am in pain, I don't care *how* unreasonable it is.

>

> And finally, every problem is luxury.

>

> Love,

>

>

>

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>

>

>

>

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so much kindness directed toward strangers on this board. would be SO

proud of what is being accomplished.

Vivian

Re: Re: My fire started the forest fire

>> Just like slicing a golf ball out-of-bounds off the tee. A

>> peaceful

>> event until I add my stories of what a hopeless golfer I am, and

>> how

>> I will never be any good at this damn game. My only real problem

>> is

>> my unquestioned thinking, but it's sure hard to realize this when

>> I

>> lose my ball in the water, ... forward to losing my ball in the

>> water or going to jail, I will have

>> truly undone my painful beliefs around those events.

> dear ltwobk

>

> i would feel ashamed with such a luxury problem.

Oh well,

" pain is pain " - remember?

In the moment I am in pain, I don't care *how* unreasonable it is.

And finally, every problem is luxury.

Love,

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,

Thank you for being the voice of reason among the unreasonable.

Vivian

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>>

>>>> Just like slicing a golf ball out-of-bounds off the tee. A

>>>> peaceful

>>>> event until I add my stories of what a hopeless golfer I am, and

>>>> how

>>>> I will never be any good at this damn game. My only real problem

>>>> is

>>>> my unquestioned thinking, but it's sure hard to realize this when

>>>> I

>>>> lose my ball in the water, ... forward to losing my ball in the

>>>> water or going to jail, I will have

>>>> truly undone my painful beliefs around those events.

>>> dear ltwobk

>>>

>>> i would feel ashamed with such a luxury problem.

>> Oh well,

>>

>> " pain is pain " - remember?

>>

>> In the moment I am in pain, I don't care *how* unreasonable it is.

>>

>> And finally, every problem is luxury.

>>

>> Love,

>>

>>

>>

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>>

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> so much kindness directed toward strangers on this board.

> would be SO proud of what is being accomplished.

*lol*

I don't think so.

Her business, anyway.

But thank you for your observation, stranger! ;-)

> Vivian

Love,

PS: how can you direct emotions (such as kindness) towards...

anything outside of you? (and would there be a motive?)

> Re: Re: My fire started the forest fire

>

>>> Just like slicing a golf ball out-of-bounds off the tee. A

>>> peaceful

>>> event until I add my stories of what a hopeless golfer I am, and

>>> how

>>> I will never be any good at this damn game. My only real problem

>>> is

>>> my unquestioned thinking, but it's sure hard to realize this when

>>> I

>>> lose my ball in the water, ... forward to losing my ball in the

>>> water or going to jail, I will have

>>> truly undone my painful beliefs around those events.

>> dear ltwobk

>>

>> i would feel ashamed with such a luxury problem.

> Oh well,

>

> " pain is pain " - remember?

>

> In the moment I am in pain, I don't care *how* unreasonable it is.

>

> And finally, every problem is luxury.

>

> Love,

>

>

>

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>

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Thank you for noticing!

....

The way I see it, everyone is there for me to get clear. That way I

can put anything under inquiry.

And that's my story.

Love,

Am 05.10.2006 um 16:44 schrieb Vivian Barning:

> ,

>

> Thank you for being the voice of reason among the unreasonable.

>

> Vivian

> Re: Re: My fire started the forest fire

>>>

>>>>> Just like slicing a golf ball out-of-bounds off the tee. A

>>>>> peaceful

>>>>> event until I add my stories of what a hopeless golfer I am, and

>>>>> how

>>>>> I will never be any good at this damn game. My only real problem

>>>>> is

>>>>> my unquestioned thinking, but it's sure hard to realize this when

>>>>> I

>>>>> lose my ball in the water, ... forward to losing my ball in the

>>>>> water or going to jail, I will have

>>>>> truly undone my painful beliefs around those events.

>>>> dear ltwobk

>>>>

>>>> i would feel ashamed with such a luxury problem.

>>> Oh well,

>>>

>>> " pain is pain " - remember?

>>>

>>> In the moment I am in pain, I don't care *how* unreasonable it is.

>>>

>>> And finally, every problem is luxury.

>>>

>>> Love,

>>>

>>>

>>>

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>>>

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Yes, I'm being cynical or perhaps sarcastic. A common trait among New Yorkers.

Vivian

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>> Just like slicing a golf ball out-of-bounds off the tee. A

>> peaceful

>> event until I add my stories of what a hopeless golfer I am, and

>> how

>> I will never be any good at this damn game. My only real problem

>> is

>> my unquestioned thinking, but it's sure hard to realize this when

>> I

>> lose my ball in the water, ... forward to losing my ball in the

>> water or going to jail, I will have

>> truly undone my painful beliefs around those events.

> dear ltwobk

>

> i would feel ashamed with such a luxury problem.

Oh well,

" pain is pain " - remember?

In the moment I am in pain, I don't care *how* unreasonable it is.

And finally, every problem is luxury.

Love,

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I think we direct emotions outward all the time. And yes they have a motive

although we may not be aware of it at the time.

Vivian

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>>

>>>> Just like slicing a golf ball out-of-bounds off the tee. A

>>>> peaceful

>>>> event until I add my stories of what a hopeless golfer I am, and

>>>> how

>>>> I will never be any good at this damn game. My only real problem

>>>> is

>>>> my unquestioned thinking, but it's sure hard to realize this when

>>>> I

>>>> lose my ball in the water, ... forward to losing my ball in the

>>>> water or going to jail, I will have

>>>> truly undone my painful beliefs around those events.

>>> dear ltwobk

>>>

>>> i would feel ashamed with such a luxury problem.

>> Oh well,

>>

>> " pain is pain " - remember?

>>

>> In the moment I am in pain, I don't care *how* unreasonable it is.

>>

>> And finally, every problem is luxury.

>>

>> Love,

>>

>>

>>

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i know different ones as well. yepee ) r

>

> Yes, I'm being cynical or perhaps sarcastic. A common trait among

New Yorkers.

>

> Vivian

> Re: Re: My fire started the forest

fire

>

> >> Just like slicing a golf ball out-of-bounds off the tee. A

> >> peaceful

> >> event until I add my stories of what a hopeless golfer I am,

and

> >> how

> >> I will never be any good at this damn game. My only real

problem

> >> is

> >> my unquestioned thinking, but it's sure hard to realize this

when

> >> I

> >> lose my ball in the water, ... forward to losing my ball in

the

> >> water or going to jail, I will have

> >> truly undone my painful beliefs around those events.

> > dear ltwobk

> >

> > i would feel ashamed with such a luxury problem.

> Oh well,

>

> " pain is pain " - remember?

>

> In the moment I am in pain, I don't care *how* unreasonable it

is.

>

> And finally, every problem is luxury.

>

> Love,

>

>

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> I think we direct emotions outward all the time.

I understand. And who is there to perceive them?

Where I am going is that the only one feeling the emotion is me. I

notice my own emotions. And sometimes I use the world to feel them.

That's when projection happens. All projection is from me to me.

Nothing else can be affected or affect me.

> And yes they have a motive although we may not be aware of it at

> the time.

I do believe that any motive I can have is based on an unquestioned

thought.

Take , for instance: she seems to find toilet-humor interesting.

So she talks about passive-agressive behaviour regarding farting,

asses, etc. and thereby having fun. I may perceive it as

manipulative, humourous, petty, whatever, depending on my own stories

about who this girl is. That's how I develop my own emotions, and

project them on her.

Eventually, turns out to be my own self.

> Vivian

Love,

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how do you like this http://youtube.com/watch?v=_BlcHEac9hI

vivian?

lr

>

> Yes, I'm being cynical or perhaps sarcastic. A common trait among

New Yorkers.

>

> Vivian

> Re: Re: My fire started the forest

fire

>

> >> Just like slicing a golf ball out-of-bounds off the tee. A

> >> peaceful

> >> event until I add my stories of what a hopeless golfer I am,

and

> >> how

> >> I will never be any good at this damn game. My only real

problem

> >> is

> >> my unquestioned thinking, but it's sure hard to realize this

when

> >> I

> >> lose my ball in the water, ... forward to losing my ball in

the

> >> water or going to jail, I will have

> >> truly undone my painful beliefs around those events.

> > dear ltwobk

> >

> > i would feel ashamed with such a luxury problem.

> Oh well,

>

> " pain is pain " - remember?

>

> In the moment I am in pain, I don't care *how* unreasonable it

is.

>

> And finally, every problem is luxury.

>

> Love,

>

>

> __________________________________________________________

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vivian, do you know that movie " take the lead " and the work of

that " real " dancer in new york and if you do, would you mind

sharing what you think and feel about it? lr

> > Yes, I'm being cynical or perhaps sarcastic. A common trait

among

> New Yorkers.

> >

> > Vivian

> > Re: Re: My fire started the forest

> fire

> >

> > >> Just like slicing a golf ball out-of-bounds off the tee. A

> > >> peaceful

> > >> event until I add my stories of what a hopeless golfer I

am,

> and

> > >> how

> > >> I will never be any good at this damn game. My only real

> problem

> > >> is

> > >> my unquestioned thinking, but it's sure hard to realize

this

> when

> > >> I

> > >> lose my ball in the water, ... forward to losing my ball in

> the

> > >> water or going to jail, I will have

> > >> truly undone my painful beliefs around those events.

> > > dear ltwobk

> > >

> > > i would feel ashamed with such a luxury problem.

> > Oh well,

> >

> > " pain is pain " - remember?

> >

> > In the moment I am in pain, I don't care *how* unreasonable it

> is.

> >

> > And finally, every problem is luxury.

> >

> > Love,

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________________

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dear Vivian.. its not so much what is written but the interpretation

of the reader.. knowing tami i took it as a joke.

Lighten up.. when you read this stuff here.. oh damn in someones

business.. if im not in acs or tamis or marys ...

now im in yours vivian.. you are officially part of this group.

love, roslyn

-- In Loving-what-is , " Vivian Barning "

wrote:

>

> so much kindness directed toward strangers on this board.

would be SO proud of what is being accomplished.

> Vivian

> Re: Re: My fire started the forest fire

>

> >> Just like slicing a golf ball out-of-bounds off the tee. A

> >> peaceful

> >> event until I add my stories of what a hopeless golfer I am, and

> >> how

> >> I will never be any good at this damn game. My only real problem

> >> is

> >> my unquestioned thinking, but it's sure hard to realize this when

> >> I

> >> lose my ball in the water, ... forward to losing my ball in the

> >> water or going to jail, I will have

> >> truly undone my painful beliefs around those events.

> > dear ltwobk

> >

> > i would feel ashamed with such a luxury problem.

> Oh well,

>

> " pain is pain " - remember?

>

> In the moment I am in pain, I don't care *how* unreasonable it is.

>

> And finally, every problem is luxury.

>

> Love,

>

>

>

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