Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Hi Jaspe ~ The booklet is certainly not for everyone! It is one of the most radical nondual dialogues in print, and, as such, challenges the mind's traditional dualistic indoctrination as to what is " so. " To get a flavor for the extreme perspective present in this booklet, go to the Files link on the left. Click on Files. Then open the Byron Material folder. Click on " Losing the Moon, " then click on the file that opens a few excerpts of it. If you find you're still interested, there may be someone on the list who can help you procur the full text (it's been outa print for years). Good luck! > Hello everyone, > > I am wondering if anybody here know about a book from Byron > called " Losing the moon " . > > The only thing I know is that it was written previously to " Loving > what is " . > > Does anyone know what it is about? > > Thanks in advanced. > > Happy to hear from you, > > Jaspe > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Thank you very much, Andy. I did what you suggested and you're totally right, it seems very different to what I am used to reading in 's books (I only have read " Loving what is " and " I need your love " ). Something beautiful I experienced as soon as I found THE WORK is that I realized that my piles of self-help books were good for nothing because my answers had always been inside me! I had a lot, and it's funny because it's been a long time, almost a year! that I don't buy any. Now I go to libraries and although I enjoy being there I see other sections, I simply don't feel the need to buy the new self-help books that are announced. When I see them close I discover that the whole book is just about one of the many stories of our mind. As says, there are no new thoughts. They are all re- cycled. It is amazing to feel complete, without needing to " correct " anything. Now I simply let myself " be " . I wonder if others in the group have experienced this thing about books. Jaspe .................................................. Clarity of mind is freedom of heart. .................................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Thank you very much, Andy. #####You're most welcome. I did what you suggested and you're totally right, it seems very different to what I am used to reading in 's books (I only have read " Loving what is " and " I need your love " ). #####Yes. If " Loving What Is " = game, and " I Need Your Love " = set, then " Losing the Moon " = match: game, set, match. :-) " Losing the Moon " checkmates all her other works. It contains the culminating understanding which, in my opinion, was popularized and homogenized in the two other books. Something beautiful I experienced as soon as I found THE WORK is that I realized that my piles of self-help books were good for nothing because my answers had always been inside me! I had a lot, and it's funny because it's been a long time, almost a year! that I don't buy any. #####There is no need once it is seen that there is no one to help. ;-) Now I go to libraries and although I enjoy being there I see other sections, I simply don't feel the need to buy the new self-help books that are announced. When I see them close I discover that the whole book is just about one of the many stories of our mind. As says, there are no new thoughts. They are all re-cycled. #####All there are, are stories. It is amazing to feel complete, #####Actually, it's quite....ordinary.....nothing special. :-)))) without needing to " correct " anything. Now I simply let myself " be " . #####It's not you who is doing the letting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Hi, I'm reading the transcript, it's fascinating stuff, I agree that the work seems to have been popularized. I can understand with her talking about not caring if someone if gets knifed, could be bad for book sales. Not that that dimishes 'the work' it works on all different levels and this reaches a wider field of people. Most people do not angst over whether they exist or not (I'm guessing). I don't suppose any heads would we willing to scan the book as it's not availible anymore. I'm currently scanning in 'Cry in the Desert' and will make it availible when i'm done. Mark > > > Thank you very much, Andy. > > > #####You're most welcome. > > I did what you suggested and you're totally right, it seems very > different to what I am used to reading in 's books (I only have > read " Loving what is " and " I need your love " ). > > > #####Yes. > If " Loving What Is " = game, > and " I Need Your Love " = set, > then " Losing the Moon " = match: > > game, set, match. :-) > > " Losing the Moon " checkmates all her other works. It contains the > culminating understanding which, in my opinion, was popularized and > homogenized in the two other books. > > > > Something beautiful I experienced as soon as I found THE WORK is that > I realized that my piles of self-help books were good for nothing > because my answers had always been inside me! > > I had a lot, and it's funny because it's been a long time, almost a > year! that I don't buy any. > > > #####There is no need once it is seen that there is no one to help. > ;-) > > > Now I go to libraries and although I enjoy being there I see other > sections, I simply don't feel the need to buy the new self-help books > that are announced. When I see them close I discover that the whole > book is just about one of the many stories of our mind. As > says, there are no new thoughts. They are all re-cycled. > > > #####All there are, are stories. > > > It is amazing to feel complete, > > > #####Actually, it's quite....ordinary.....nothing special. :-)))) > > > without needing to " correct " anything. Now I simply let myself " be " . > > > #####It's not you who is doing the letting. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 hi mark ~ i have the book and would consider it, tho' i dont know when i'd have time. i am also interested in losing the moon. i would also consider mailing my copy of the book to you if you were interested in dong it and i did not have the time before i leave for my job in a provincial park where i dont have access to computers. hhhm. whadda ya think? cath > > > > > > Thank you very much, Andy. > > > > > > #####You're most welcome. > > > > I did what you suggested and you're totally right, it seems very > > different to what I am used to reading in 's books (I only > have > > read " Loving what is " and " I need your love " ). > > > > > > #####Yes. > > If " Loving What Is " = game, > > and " I Need Your Love " = set, > > then " Losing the Moon " = match: > > > > game, set, match. :-) > > > > " Losing the Moon " checkmates all her other works. It contains the > > culminating understanding which, in my opinion, was popularized > and > > homogenized in the two other books. > > > > > > > > Something beautiful I experienced as soon as I found THE WORK is > that > > I realized that my piles of self-help books were good for nothing > > because my answers had always been inside me! > > > > I had a lot, and it's funny because it's been a long time, almost a > > year! that I don't buy any. > > > > > > #####There is no need once it is seen that there is no one to help. > > ;-) > > > > > > Now I go to libraries and although I enjoy being there I see other > > sections, I simply don't feel the need to buy the new self-help > books > > that are announced. When I see them close I discover that the > whole > > book is just about one of the many stories of our mind. As > > says, there are no new thoughts. They are all re-cycled. > > > > > > #####All there are, are stories. > > > > > > It is amazing to feel complete, > > > > > > #####Actually, it's quite....ordinary.....nothing special. :-)))) > > > > > > without needing to " correct " anything. Now I simply let > myself " be " . > > > > > > #####It's not you who is doing the letting. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Dear Jaspe, Losing The Moon is my favorite read. I must have read it and listened to it on tape several hundered times. It is so radical that they stopped publishing it. Blessings, Steve D. > > Hello everyone, > > I am wondering if anybody here know about a book from Byron > called " Losing the moon " . > > The only thing I know is that it was written previously to " Loving > what is " . > > Does anyone know what it is about? > > Thanks in advanced. > > Happy to hear from you, > > Jaspe > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 " Something beautiful I experienced as soon as I found THE WORK is > that > > I realized that my piles of self-help books were good for nothing > > because my answers had always been inside me! > > " I had a lot, and it's funny because it's been a long time, almost a year! that I don't buy any. #####There is no need once it is seen that there is no one to help. " I just saw the above in a post and wanted to post my agreement. I had the same experience. Once i realized that there are no new stories, why buy or read another book? Love, steve D. > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much, Andy. > > > > > > > > > #####You're most welcome. > > > > > > I did what you suggested and you're totally right, it seems very > > > different to what I am used to reading in 's books (I only > > have > > > read " Loving what is " and " I need your love " ). > > > > > > > > > #####Yes. > > > If " Loving What Is " = game, > > > and " I Need Your Love " = set, > > > then " Losing the Moon " = match: > > > > > > game, set, match. :-) > > > > > > " Losing the Moon " checkmates all her other works. It contains > the > > > culminating understanding which, in my opinion, was popularized > > and > > > homogenized in the two other books. > > > > > > > > > > > > Something beautiful I experienced as soon as I found THE WORK is > > that > > > I realized that my piles of self-help books were good for nothing > > > because my answers had always been inside me! > > > > > > I had a lot, and it's funny because it's been a long time, > almost a > > > year! that I don't buy any. > > > > > > > > > #####There is no need once it is seen that there is no one to > help. > > > ;-) > > > > > > > > > Now I go to libraries and although I enjoy being there I see > other > > > sections, I simply don't feel the need to buy the new self-help > > books > > > that are announced. When I see them close I discover that the > > whole > > > book is just about one of the many stories of our mind. As > > > says, there are no new thoughts. They are all re-cycled. > > > > > > > > > #####All there are, are stories. > > > > > > > > > It is amazing to feel complete, > > > > > > > > > #####Actually, it's quite....ordinary.....nothing special. :- )))) > > > > > > > > > without needing to " correct " anything. Now I simply let > > myself " be " . > > > > > > > > > #####It's not you who is doing the letting. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Hi , Sounds good, I sent you an email about it. Mark > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much, Andy. > > > > > > > > > #####You're most welcome. > > > > > > I did what you suggested and you're totally right, it seems very > > > different to what I am used to reading in 's books (I only > > have > > > read " Loving what is " and " I need your love " ). > > > > > > > > > #####Yes. > > > If " Loving What Is " = game, > > > and " I Need Your Love " = set, > > > then " Losing the Moon " = match: > > > > > > game, set, match. :-) > > > > > > " Losing the Moon " checkmates all her other works. It contains > the > > > culminating understanding which, in my opinion, was popularized > > and > > > homogenized in the two other books. > > > > > > > > > > > > Something beautiful I experienced as soon as I found THE WORK is > > that > > > I realized that my piles of self-help books were good for nothing > > > because my answers had always been inside me! > > > > > > I had a lot, and it's funny because it's been a long time, > almost a > > > year! that I don't buy any. > > > > > > > > > #####There is no need once it is seen that there is no one to > help. > > > ;-) > > > > > > > > > Now I go to libraries and although I enjoy being there I see > other > > > sections, I simply don't feel the need to buy the new self-help > > books > > > that are announced. When I see them close I discover that the > > whole > > > book is just about one of the many stories of our mind. As > > > says, there are no new thoughts. They are all re-cycled. > > > > > > > > > #####All there are, are stories. > > > > > > > > > It is amazing to feel complete, > > > > > > > > > #####Actually, it's quite....ordinary.....nothing special. :- )))) > > > > > > > > > without needing to " correct " anything. Now I simply let > > myself " be " . > > > > > > > > > #####It's not you who is doing the letting. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Hi Steve, Is a lot material cut out of the tape version due to length or is it several tapes? Mark > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I am wondering if anybody here know about a book from Byron > > called " Losing the moon " . > > > > The only thing I know is that it was written previously to " Loving > > what is " . > > > > Does anyone know what it is about? > > > > Thanks in advanced. > > > > Happy to hear from you, > > > > Jaspe > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 > > I didnt read the book > > Any of you who read the book > I wonder > why did she called the book " losing the moon " ? > > I have my story of what losing the moon means > I want to hears someone else story > (only people who read the book) > > T > Hi Tami, I think it was because they talked about it in the book. Are you willing to lose the (concept of) the moon? (chapter 10) To drop all concepts? I have a transcription here from the book where talked with friends about the subject. 2 excerpts (not in Hebrew so don't read it all at once): ===================================================================== : Outside during the break, I looked up, and there was a moon in the sky. And the silly thought appeared as mind was, " Are you ready to live without a world? Is that what you really want? Are you willing to live in a world where there's no moon? No trees? No sky? No birds? No song? Nothing. Is that what you really want? " There is No one and Nothing. It's literal. And you can't make a moon come back. It doesn't matter how it's in the sky. There's no sky and there's no moon. Gone. And then it came to me that for me, I had nothing to lose, LITERALLY. I had a death wish-that was my focus. Anything was better than what I had, so there's the fearlessness that moves through the veil. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ : People love to pretend they love the moon. They love to pretend there is one. They must-they're doing it. Look at the moon! And another truth is no one has ever looked up the moon and believed it! We're just trying to get other people to continue to validate that it's up there at all. That is about the only reason we ask. It's just like a joining. " Isn't the moon beautiful! That is a true concept isn't it? Please validate that. Ah, yes, the moon is beautiful! " And we fall into that comfort zone. No one ever thought a flower was beautiful. Friend: But you still want to do that. : Ah, I'm your queen! And I can't be trusted either. You know, sitting here now in the daylight, is there a moon? Friend: The only way I could answer that is through memory. : Yes, and memory doesn't exist. We refver to it as memory to give the past validity. How can it be a past when it is a story arising now? That's not a possibility. Memories don't exist. There's only a story arising now and to even speak of it, is to think there's a past. Only the past speaks. Ever. Now. So what do you get for holding the belief that there's a moon when you look out at the sky and there's no moon? Where did that come from? You can't even say anyone gave it to you. It's a child-it's just like the moon. Where are they? Friend: The best thing I can do with that is- : Nothing! Friend: Well, I was going to try a little something! It was going to be to say that at some point I must have been walking with someone who said, " Look, the moon. " : It was just another story. Friend: It was just them naming- : No. It was just y o u. Telling the story about them naming it. And it's already gone. Friend#2: So what does one have to do to be prepared to lose the moon? : In my case, I couldn't make it exist. When I say I have lost the moon, it's nothing more than I have lost all reference point. When you are willing to lose the moon, there is absolutely no control. There's not even gravity. There's nothing holding you down, and that's very apparent. It's everything and everywhere. It finds control in its own order. Everything. Friend#2: It feels like total control, right? : It's absolute. Yes, it's the opposite of what people fear. You have nothing-and, in fact-everything. It's unlimited because it never calls the shot on it. The shot is already called. It's very exciting. It loves itself. It finds itself. It's total. It's the ultimate ego trip. I take full credit for a tree. I am that. =================================================================== R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Hi R., Do you have any more of the book transcribed or did you just type that out? Mark > Hi Tami, > > I think it was because they talked about it in the book. Are you > willing to lose the (concept of) the moon? (chapter 10) To drop all > concepts? > > > I have a transcription here from the book where talked with > friends about the subject. 2 excerpts (not in Hebrew so don't read it > all at once): > > ===================================================================== > > > : Outside during the break, I looked up, and there was a moon in > the sky. And the silly thought appeared as mind was, " Are you ready to > live without a world? Is that what you really want? Are you willing to > live in a world where there's no moon? No trees? No sky? No birds? No > song? Nothing. Is that what you really want? " There is No one and > Nothing. It's literal. And you can't make a moon come back. It doesn't > matter how it's in the sky. There's no sky and there's no moon. Gone. > And then it came to me that for me, I had nothing to lose, LITERALLY. > I had a death wish-that was my focus. Anything was better than what I > had, so there's the fearlessness that moves through the veil. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > : People love to pretend they love the moon. They love to pretend > there is one. They must-they're doing it. Look at the moon! And > another truth is no one has ever looked up the moon and believed it! > We're just trying to get other people to continue to validate that > it's up there at all. That is about the only reason we ask. It's just > like a joining. " Isn't the moon beautiful! That is a true concept > isn't it? Please validate that. Ah, yes, the moon is beautiful! " And > we fall into that comfort zone. No one ever thought a flower was > beautiful. > Friend: But you still want to do that. > : Ah, I'm your queen! And I can't be trusted either. You know, > sitting here now in the daylight, is there a moon? > Friend: The only way I could answer that is through memory. > : Yes, and memory doesn't exist. We refver to it as memory to > give the past validity. How can it be a past when it is a story > arising now? That's not a possibility. Memories don't exist. There's > only a story arising now and to even speak of it, is to think there's > a past. Only the past speaks. Ever. Now. So what do you get for > holding the belief that there's a moon when you look out at the sky > and there's no moon? Where did that come from? You can't even say > anyone gave it to you. It's a child-it's just like the moon. Where are > they? > Friend: The best thing I can do with that is- > : Nothing! > Friend: Well, I was going to try a little something! It was going to > be to say that at some point I must have been walking with someone who > said, " Look, the moon. " > : It was just another story. > Friend: It was just them naming- > : No. It was just y o u. Telling the story about them naming it. > And it's already gone. > Friend#2: So what does one have to do to be prepared to lose the moon? > : In my case, I couldn't make it exist. When I say I have lost > the moon, it's nothing more than I have lost all reference point. When > you are willing to lose the moon, there is absolutely no control. > There's not even gravity. There's nothing holding you down, and that's > very apparent. It's everything and everywhere. It finds control in its > own order. Everything. > Friend#2: It feels like total control, right? > : It's absolute. Yes, it's the opposite of what people fear. You > have nothing-and, in fact-everything. It's unlimited because it never > calls the shot on it. The shot is already called. It's very exciting. > It loves itself. It finds itself. It's total. It's the ultimate ego > trip. I take full credit for a tree. I am that. > > > =================================================================== > > > R. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 > > Hi R., > > Do you have any more of the book transcribed or did you just type > that out? > > Mark Hi Mark, No, I just typed that out. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 > > Hi R., > > Do you have any more of the book transcribed or did you just type > that out? > > Mark > There is more by the way in the Files section of this group. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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