Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 I think we need to remember the damage "second hand smoke" can do as well. Sher Smoking discussion I haven't read this article yet, but it doesn't make sense to me that smoking could be good for anyone. The human body is not meant to inhale smoke and nicotine. Our lungs can filter out some stuff that is in the air.....but not smoke that is inhaled every day for hours.....it doesn't sound logical. That is just my opinion. --Diane Quinlan dianequinlan@... scoliosis/PF/2004 > Diane; > There is a message from cacklecathy posted last night that gives a web site from the American Thoracic Society/ European Respiratory Society. This paper has a lot of good info about ipf including the statement that current smokers at the time of diagnosis have longer life expectancy ( not an exact quote). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 When evaluated for lung transplant in her report Dr. Yiannopoulos, Heart Lung and lung Transplatation Program Notre-Dame Hospital, Montreal Quebec, Canada. Said that; it is possible that the lung volumes are preserved because of the underlying emphysema...I was a smoker for 50 years, stop in November 2004. In other words my lungs were preserved because I was a smoker?? Guy -- In Breathe-Support , " Sher K Bauman " wrote: > > I think we need to remember the damage " second hand smoke " can do as well. Sher > Smoking discussion > > > I haven't read this article yet, but it doesn't make sense to me that smoking could be good for anyone. The human body is not meant to inhale smoke and nicotine. Our lungs can filter out some stuff that is in the air.....but not smoke that is inhaled every day for hours.....it doesn't sound logical. That is just my opinion. > > -- > Diane Quinlan > dianequinlan@... > scoliosis/PF/2004 > > > Diane; > > There is a message from cacklecathy posted last night that > gives a web site from the American Thoracic Society/ European > Respiratory Society. This paper has a lot of good info about ipf > including the statement that current smokers at the time of diagnosis > have longer life expectancy ( not an exact quote). > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Hi Guy, I don't know how but I have your yahoo address in my friend list..Do you still do the IM thing? I guess maybe we talked a year or so back. Good to hear from you. We quit smoking at the same time. Wasn't that the hardest thing you've ever done... I'm VERY proud of us.. God Bless... Peggy 9/04 ipf Guy LegaultPeggy 09/04 ipf When evaluated for lung transplant in her report Dr. Yiannopoulos, Heart Lung and lung Transplatation Program Notre-Dame Hospital, Montreal Quebec, Canada. Said that; it is possible that the lung volumes are preserved because of the underlying emphysema...I was a smoker for 50 years, stop in November 2004. In other words my lungs were preserved because I was a smoker?? Guy -- In Breathe-Support , " Sher K Bauman " wrote: > > I think we need to remember the damage " second hand smoke " can do as well. Sher > Smoking discussion > > > I haven't read this article yet, but it doesn't make sense to me that smoking could be good for anyone. The human body is not meant to inhale smoke and nicotine. Our lungs can filter out some stuff that is in the air.....but not smoke that is inhaled every day for hours.....it doesn't sound logical. That is just my opinion. > > -- > Diane Quinlan > dianequinlan@... > scoliosis/PF/2004 > > > Diane; > > There is a message from cacklecathy posted last night that > gives a web site from the American Thoracic Society/ European > Respiratory Society. This paper has a lot of good info about ipf > including the statement that current smokers at the time of diagnosis > have longer life expectancy ( not an exact quote). > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 I can't tell you what that means cause it's too little information....is there a link to that paper? I do know that emphysema causes air to be trapped in the lungs....and it's difficult to expel it....when they teach you to do pursed lip breathing it's to help get that air out...so the lung volume is there....not like with PF where the lungs are filled with scarred tissue....the lung volume is much smaller.....does that make sense? I'm a nurse, not a pulmonologist....but I've never heard that smoking was found helpful in anyone's lungs. --Diane Quinlan dianequinlan@... scoliosis/PF/2004 -------------- Original message -------------- When evaluated for lung transplant in her report Dr. Yiannopoulos, Heart Lung and lung Transplatation Program Notre-Dame Hospital, Montreal Quebec, Canada. Said that; it is possible that the lung volumes are preserved because of the underlying emphysema... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Hey, Diane: I hope this find you feeling well. I have a question for you. I have emphysema (and a pretty bad case of it according to the new pulm dr.), chronic bronchitis and ipf or pf (he doesn't know which for sure yet). Now don't these diseases go against each other. I mean one will not let oxygen in and the other won't let the oxygen out. Just what is in store for me for the future concerning this. Have a wonderful day. Barb in KY ipf or pf/ 11-05dianequinlan@... wrote: I can't tell you what that means cause it's too little information....is there a link to that paper? I do know that emphysema causes air to be trapped in the lungs....and it's difficult to expel it....when they teach you to do pursed lip breathing it's to help get that air out...so the lung volume is there....not like with PF where the lungs are filled with scarred tissue....the lung volume is much smaller.....does that make sense? I'm a nurse, not a pulmonologist....but I've never heard that smoking was found helpful in anyone's lungs. --Diane Quinlan dianequinlan@... scoliosis/PF/2004 -------------- Original message -------------- When evaluated for lung transplant in her report Dr. Yiannopoulos, Heart Lung and lung Transplatation Program Notre-Dame Hospital, Montreal Quebec, Canada. Said that; it is possible that the lung volumes are preserved because of the underlying emphysema... New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Thank you Diane. for bringing back to our rememberences to love for TODAY. You hit the nail on the head as far as my fears are concerned. I don't want my death to be traumatic, or I don't want to panic or suffer. I don't want that to be a lasting memory for my sons or loved ones....me fighting for that last breath. Thst fear eats my lunch sometimes. It, in itself suffocates me. I fight it always. Thats why my Dr. gave me meds for panic. All of you here have been God sent...and have helped me with this. Thanks to each of you, my precious friends, for always being there in prayer and support. kiss kiss, ~Ginger~ IPF 9/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Barb - I think it is very common to have more than one chronic illness. As far as what this will mean for you or anyone else....no one knows the answer to that question. I know you have asked this before....we all sort've wonder about how we will die....but the truth is, no one knows that answer....perfectly healthy people don't know how they will die....why should we? And who is to say you or I will die from respiratory failure?? We could die from that....we could die in an auto accident....get cancer....get struck by lightning....the list goes on..... The important thing is to focus on living....if we spend all of our time worrying about dying.....we are wasting precious time. And if you are worried that you are going to have a bad death because you won't be able to breathe, I can tell you that there are medications that will make you comfortable...no one has to suffer their last moments in pain or feeling like they are suffocating.....We are all scared....but we have to work hard not to let that control our lives. Make the best use of TODAY. --Diane Quinlan dianequinlan@... scoliosis/PF/2004 -------------- Original message -------------- Hey, Diane: I hope this find you feeling well. I have a question for you. I have emphysema (and a pretty bad case of it according to the new pulm dr.), chronic bronchitis and ipf or pf (he doesn't know which for sure yet). Now don't these diseases go against each other. I mean one will not let oxygen in and the other won't let the oxygen out. Just what is in store for me for the future concerning this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Yesturday, on the Hallmark Channel, I watched a movie .. 'Out of the Woods' with Ed Asner. In it, he is dying of lung cancer. It was somewhat difficult to watch, but I would reccommend it. The way that he chose to die seems like a good one. His character did attend to living and loving. That is what I want to do. Not stick my head in the sand, but count every day a blessing from God and use it for good. Hugs, Joyce PF 1997>> Barb - I think it is very common to have more than one chronic illness. As far as what this will mean for you or anyone else....no one knows the answer to that question. I know you have asked this before....we all sort've wonder about how we will die....but the truth is, no one knows that answer....perfectly healthy people don't know how they will die....why should we? And who is to say you or I will die from respiratory failure?? We could die from that....we could die in an auto accident....get cancer....get struck by lightning....the list goes on.....> The important thing is to focus on living....if we spend all of our time worrying about dying.....we are wasting precious time. And if you are worried that you are going to have a bad death because you won't be able to breathe, I can tell you that there are medications that will make you comfortable...no one has to suffer their last moments in pain or feeling like they are suffocating.....We are all scared....but we have to work hard not to let that control our lives. Make the best use of TODAY. > > --> Diane Quinlan > dianequinlan@... > scoliosis/PF/2004> > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Barbara Soice babs594@... > > Hey, Diane: I hope this find you feeling well. I have a question for you. I have emphysema (and a pretty bad case of it according to the new pulm dr.), chronic bronchitis and ipf or pf (he doesn't know which for sure yet). Now don't these diseases go against each other. I mean one will not let oxygen in and the other won't let the oxygen out. Just what is in store for me for the future concerning this.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Diane, Your answer to Barb was wonderful as you really have a way with words. Keep up your joful uplifting words and brighten everyone's day. Ann IPF Aug. 2003 -- In Breathe-Support , dianequinlan@... wrote:>> Barb - I think it is very common to have more than one chronic illness. As far as what this will mean for you or anyone else....no one knows the answer to that question. I know you have asked this before....we all sort've wonder about how we will die....but the truth is, no one knows that answer....perfectly healthy people don't know how they will die....why should we? And who is to say you or I will die from respiratory failure?? We could die from that....we could die in an auto accident....get cancer....get struck by lightning....the list goes on.....> The important thing is to focus on living....if we spend all of our time worrying about dying.....we are wasting precious time. And if you are worried that you are going to have a bad death because you won't be able to breathe, I can tell you that there are medications that will make you comfortable...no one has to suffer their last moments in pain or feeling like they are suffocating.....We are all scared....but we have to work hard not to let that control our lives. Make the best use of TODAY. > > --> Diane Quinlan > dianequinlan@... > scoliosis/PF/2004> > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Barbara Soice babs594@... > > Hey, Diane: I hope this find you feeling well. I have a question for you. I have emphysema (and a pretty bad case of it according to the new pulm dr.), chronic bronchitis and ipf or pf (he doesn't know which for sure yet). Now don't these diseases go against each other. I mean one will not let oxygen in and the other won't let the oxygen out. Just what is in store for me for the future concerning this.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 > > > > Barb - I think it is very common to have more than one chronic > illness. As far as what this will mean for you or anyone else....no one > knows the answer to that question. I know you have asked this > before....we all sort've wonder about how we will die....but the truth > is, no one knows that answer....perfectly healthy people don't know how > they will die....why should we? And who is to say you or I will die from > respiratory failure?? We could die from that....we could die in an auto > accident....get cancer....get struck by lightning....the list goes > on..... > > The important thing is to focus on living....if we spend all of our > time worrying about dying.....we are wasting precious time. And if you > are worried that you are going to have a bad death because you won't be > able to breathe, I can tell you that there are medications that will > make you comfortable...no one has to suffer their last moments in pain > or feeling like they are suffocating.....We are all scared....but we > have to work hard not to let that control our lives. Make the best use > of TODAY. > > > > -- > > Diane Quinlan > > dianequinlan@ > > scoliosis/PF/2004 > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: Barbara Soice babs594@ > > > > Hey, Diane: I hope this find you feeling well. I have a question for > you. I have emphysema (and a pretty bad case of it according to the new > pulm dr.), chronic bronchitis and ipf or pf (he doesn't know which for > sure yet). Now don't these diseases go against each other. I mean one > will not let oxygen in and the other won't let the oxygen out. Just what > is in store for me for the future concerning this. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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