Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 I reached home yesterday night around 8.00PM. My daughter became very excited and happy seeing me. My son started jumping on the sofa in joy. I asked my daughter about her school. I played horsy-horsy with my son and daughter. I played balloons with my son. I took my son out in stroller [yes, at 9.00PM]. I went upstairs with my son and daughter my daughter and I read together. My son played with books and puzzles in the same room. I put my daughter and son to sleep around 10.30 PM. When I reached home my wife was on sofa watching TV. Little later, when I was free from my son and daughter I hugged her. When I was feeding my son and my wife was seating on the sofa watching TV, I asked my wife to help our daughter take bath. Hearing this wife became angry saying that our daughter should know what to do. Little later she did shout on her for not doing shampoo and helped her shampoo. I didn't like my wife's getting angry at me or my daughter. I told my wife that she has to get up tomorrow at 7.30 to help our daughter get ready and to pack her lunch. I asked my wife to go to bed and rest but she kept watching TV. When I came down she said that one astrologer had told that I [her husband] was going to have affair with my brother's wife. I found it too ridicules and low level even to comment on it. My wife accused me of having affair with my sister. I knew that my wife didn't believe it and was simply saying that to make me angry, hurt or sad. I didn't become sad, angry or hurt. But, this kind of behavior was beyond my definition and boundary of dignity, civility and human respect. Yes, I thought my wife was *bad*! In somewhat similar way that many *terrorist*, child molesters, robbers are *bad*. Just part of the reality - yet, I know they can hurt. I do call behavior of child molesters, terrorists, thieves, robbers *bad* and I don't think calling that behavior bad hurts me or is stressful to me. It is just a fact. I got up at 6.30 AM. Checked my office mails, checked Internet, I brushed, I gave my son milk and I woke my daughter up at 7.15 AM to get her ready for school, I asked my wife to get up in 15 minutes to help my daughter get ready [today was her school picture day]. My wife didn't wake up until 7.45AM - so I went and woke her up again. She woke up and called my daughter [7 year old] bitch and leper for not being able to get ready by herself. Those were kind of words that I had rarely heard before my marriage. Those are among the words that I have never used for my children. And, when my wife uses it, I don't know what kind of impact it would have on daughter especially when she is starting her day like that. Little later, my daughter was upset and angry with her mom, she was not talking to her mom and was not ready to take her help. I helped my daughter put on shoes and dropped her to her school and came to work. I haven't called my wife yet. But, I will after posting this message. Love, ac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 ac, dear one! did you ever get angry about/with your parents about choosing such a women for you to marry? did they tell you the truth about arranged marriages? how are the emergency exits in this tradition if a marriage within this framework is not working happily? love rose > I reached home yesterday night around > 8.00PM. My daughter became very excited > and happy seeing me. My son started > jumping on the sofa in joy. I asked my > daughter about her school. I played > horsy-horsy with my son and daughter. I > played balloons with my son. I took my > son out in stroller [yes, at 9.00PM]. I > went upstairs with my son and daughter > my daughter and I read together. My son > played with books and puzzles in the > same room. I put my daughter and son to > sleep around 10.30 PM. > > When I reached home my wife was on > sofa watching TV. Little later, when I > was free from my son and daughter I > hugged her. When I was feeding my son > and my wife was seating on the sofa > watching TV, I asked my wife to help > our daughter take bath. Hearing this > wife became angry saying that our > daughter should know what to do. Little > later she did shout on her for not > doing shampoo and helped her shampoo. I > didn't like my wife's getting angry at > me or my daughter. > > I told my wife that she has to get up > tomorrow at 7.30 to help our daughter > get ready and to pack her lunch. I > asked my wife to go to bed and rest but > she kept watching TV. When I came down > she said that one astrologer had told > that I [her husband] was going to have > affair with my brother's wife. I found > it too ridicules and low level even to > comment on it. My wife accused me of > having affair with my sister. I knew > that my wife didn't believe it and was > simply saying that to make me angry, > hurt or sad. I didn't become sad, angry > or hurt. But, this kind of behavior was > beyond my definition and boundary of > dignity, civility and human respect. > > > Yes, I thought my wife was *bad*! In > somewhat similar way that many > *terrorist*, child molesters, robbers > are *bad*. Just part of the reality - > yet, I know they can hurt. I do call > behavior of child molesters, terrorists, > thieves, robbers *bad* and I don't think > calling that behavior bad hurts me or > is stressful to me. It is just a fact. > > > I got up at 6.30 AM. Checked my office > mails, checked Internet, I brushed, I > gave my son milk and I woke my daughter > up at 7.15 AM to get her ready for > school, I asked my wife to get up in 15 > minutes to help my daughter get ready > [today was her school picture day]. My > wife didn't wake up until 7.45AM - so I > went and woke her up again. She woke up > and called my daughter [7 year old] > bitch and leper for not being able to > get ready by herself. Those were kind > of words that I had rarely heard before > my marriage. > > Those are among the words that I > have never used for my children. And, > when my wife uses it, I don't know what > kind of impact it would have on > daughter especially when she is > starting her day like that. Little > later, my daughter was upset and angry > with her mom, she was not talking to > her mom and was not ready to take her > help. I helped my daughter put on shoes > and dropped her to her school and came > to work. > > I haven't called my wife yet. But, I > will after posting this message. > > > Love, > ac. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 > > ac, dear one! did you ever get angry about/with your parents about > choosing such a women for you to marry? > did they tell you the truth about arranged marriages? > how are the emergency exits in this tradition if a marriage within > this framework is not working happily? > > love rose Men are " usually " supposed to " rule " and 'control' 'their' women! I have found myself unable to do that as I have failed to even " rule " and 'control' myself! LOL Love, ac. [...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 you " failed " again!!! go back to my questions! !!! lr > > ac, dear one! did you ever get angry about/with your parents about > > choosing such a women for you to marry? > > did they tell you the truth about arranged marriages? > > how are the emergency exits in this tradition if a marriage within > > this framework is not working happily? > > > > love rose > > Men are " usually " supposed to " rule " > and 'control' 'their' women! > > I have found myself unable to do that > as I have failed to even " rule " > and 'control' myself! > > LOL > > Love, > ac. > > [...] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 > > darling ac I'm still waiting for your response to these three > questions, below. love u, rose > > >>ac, dear one! did you ever get angry about/with your parents about choosing such a women for you to marry? No, I don't think so. I thought [and still think] that didn't have any choice and they did the best it was possible for them to do. >>did they tell you the truth about arranged marriages? No. But, I don't think they know the " truth " about arranged marriages. They simply knew/know that it is somewhat of a 'gamble' - you might get a partner that matches you and you have a harmonious marriage or you might get one that doesn't 'match' you and you have life long struggle. All they think they can really do is try their best in their 'social framewor' leave the rest to God. >>how are the emergency exits in this tradition if a marriage within this framework is not working happily? Some people have left [or, in some cases without leaving] their wife and remarried another woman without formally divorcing their wife. My wife's father did it. My wife's mother was my father in law's second wife. Even my own grand father maried twice. My grandfather got re-married for the sake of wanting a son; my father in law re-married because his first wife was 'allegedly' crazy. Both my father in law and my grand father lived in the same, under same roof with two wives until one of them died. Love, ac. > > > > love rose > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 huuuuhaaa what i relief. finally u made it. thank you to pieces. lr > > darling ac I'm still waiting for your response to these three > > questions, below. love u, rose > > > > > >>ac, dear one! did you ever get angry about/with > your parents about choosing such a women for you to marry? > > No, I don't think so. I thought [and still think] > that didn't have any choice and they did the best > it was possible for them to do. > > > >>did they tell you the truth about arranged marriages? > > No. But, I don't think they know the " truth " about > arranged marriages. They simply knew/know that it > is somewhat of a 'gamble' - you might get a > partner that matches you and you have a harmonious > marriage or you might get one that doesn't 'match' > you and you have life long struggle. All they think > they can really do is try their best in their 'social > framewor' leave the rest to God. > > > > >>how are the emergency exits in this tradition if a marriage > within this framework is not working happily? > > > Some people have left [or, in some cases without > leaving] their wife and remarried > another woman without formally divorcing their > wife. > > > My wife's father did it. My wife's mother was > my father in law's second wife. Even my own > grand father maried twice. My grandfather got re-married > for the sake of wanting a son; my father in law re-married > because his first wife was 'allegedly' crazy. > > Both my father in law > and my grand father lived in the same, under same roof > with two wives until one of them died. > > > Love, > ac. > > > > > > > love rose > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 adithya.. that sort of thinking is from the dark ages.. - no one should rule or control anyone.. i guess that is arguing with what is. Well can anyone be controlled always.. KAtie says dictators are very unhappy people because it never works.. Your wife sure tries.. I wonder if she calls your daughter names becuase she cant upset you by calling you names. I think your daughter would be much better off getting ready and doing everything on her own.. and having the least amount of time with your wife as possible but then i dont know her path or your wifes. Your daughter may learn not to be effected by her and learn a lot.. or teach your wife in your business as usual rh -- In Loving-what-is , " adithya_comming " wrote: > > > > > > ac, dear one! did you ever get angry about/with your parents about > > choosing such a women for you to marry? > > did they tell you the truth about arranged marriages? > > how are the emergency exits in this tradition if a marriage within > > this framework is not working happily? > > > > love rose > > Men are " usually " supposed to " rule " > and 'control' 'their' women! > > I have found myself unable to do that > as I have failed to even " rule " > and 'control' myself! > > LOL > > Love, > ac. > > [...] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 HI, Just a reminder that you can't really know what is in the daughter's best interests. For that matter, you don't really know the family dynamics as you are only reading one side of it. Yes, the wife sounds awful but we don't have a full picture and certainly can't see things from the child's point of view. vivian Re: A [typical] Night and Day ... [or, why I think my wife is *bad*!]. adithya.. that sort of thinking is from the dark ages.. - no one should rule or control anyone.. i guess that is arguing with what is. Well can anyone be controlled always.. KAtie says dictators are very unhappy people because it never works.. Your wife sure tries.. I wonder if she calls your daughter names becuase she cant upset you by calling you names. I think your daughter would be much better off getting ready and doing everything on her own.. and having the least amount of time with your wife as possible but then i dont know her path or your wifes. Your daughter may learn not to be effected by her and learn a lot.. or teach your wife in your business as usual rh -- In Loving-what-is , " adithya_comming " wrote: > > > > > > ac, dear one! did you ever get angry about/with your parents about > > choosing such a women for you to marry? > > did they tell you the truth about arranged marriages? > > how are the emergency exits in this tradition if a marriage within > > this framework is not working happily? > > > > love rose > > Men are " usually " supposed to " rule " > and 'control' 'their' women! > > I have found myself unable to do that > as I have failed to even " rule " > and 'control' myself! > > LOL > > Love, > ac. > > [...] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 very true.. thanks.. rh > > > > > > ac, dear one! did you ever get angry about/with your parents about > > > choosing such a women for you to marry? > > > did they tell you the truth about arranged marriages? > > > how are the emergency exits in this tradition if a marriage within > > > this framework is not working happily? > > > > > > love rose > > > > Men are " usually " supposed to " rule " > > and 'control' 'their' women! > > > > I have found myself unable to do that > > as I have failed to even " rule " > > and 'control' myself! > > > > LOL > > > > Love, > > ac. > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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