Guest guest Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Hi Jodie, Be careful, there is a very delicate balance in the colon of good and bad flora, minerals etc. Too many enemas can cause an overgrowth of Candida particularly if you are using MMS. We don't really know how the good bacteria responds to it. I would not do more then one every other day and see how you do. I realized this after doing CEs 2x a day and had to treat a Candida overgrowth becaus of it. > > Hi all, I know others have been curious about this protocol, so I will be the guinea pig and share my experience to help others! > > I did my first enema as instructed. I did however only start at 1/4 a dose because of the " oral, inhalation & baths " I am already doing. I seemed to have a good reaction to it and felt much better then when talking it orally. I felt much stronger and was really surprised at my reaction! Maybe it has something to do with by-passing the gut...as I know I have a lot of " junk " their. My goal is to do it 2X a day at low dose and build up gradually from their. > > I think it maybe like the " transdermal " where you can tolerate it better because it doesn't have to go through the gut first. Anyways....if this is just like having MMS deliverd via IV...and that effective....then I am on board 100 percent. Thus reaching a lot more pathogens then just taken it orally! Hope this helps someone-Jodie L. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Well, I guess I am pretty confused about this! We had been discussing this issue the other day and I was under the impression that the MMS didn't destroy the good bacteria in the colon or in the gut. The MMS enema was a low-volume 4oz enema. I will def. keep this is mind and is something to consider. It def. helps to get the opinion and feedback from others. The protocol seemed to be pretty effective. I do take probiotics and cultured veggies....so I will just tread carefully. Much thanks, Jodie L. > > > > Hi all, I know others have been curious about this protocol, so I will be the guinea pig and share my experience to help others! > > > > I did my first enema as instructed. I did however only start at 1/4 a dose because of the " oral, inhalation & baths " I am already doing. I seemed to have a good reaction to it and felt much better then when talking it orally. I felt much stronger and was really surprised at my reaction! Maybe it has something to do with by-passing the gut...as I know I have a lot of " junk " their. My goal is to do it 2X a day at low dose and build up gradually from their. > > > > I think it maybe like the " transdermal " where you can tolerate it better because it doesn't have to go through the gut first. Anyways....if this is just like having MMS deliverd via IV...and that effective....then I am on board 100 percent. Thus reaching a lot more pathogens then just taken it orally! Hope this helps someone-Jodie L. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 The basic mechanics of a CE is to place caffeine next to the renal hepatic vein which will carry that stimulation to the liver, making it dump bile and whatever accumulated toxins it has at the moment. Taking chlorella at least a half hour before doing this will help bind whatever metals may be in transit, ushering them out without allowing them to recirculate into new problem areas. Léna Hi all, I know others have been curious about this protocol, so I will be the guinea pig and share my experience to help others! I did my first enema as instructed. I did however only start at 1/4 a dose because of the "oral, inhalation & baths" I am already doing. I seemed to have a good reaction to it and felt much better then when talking it orally. I felt much stronger and was really surprised at my reaction! Maybe it has something to do with by-passing the gut...as I know I have a lot of "junk" their. My goal is to do it 2X a day at low dose and build up gradually from their. I think it maybe like the "transdermal" where you can tolerate it better because it doesn't have to go through the gut first. Anyways....if this is just like having MMS deliverd via IV...and that effective....then I am on board 100 percent. Thus reaching a lot more pathogens then just taken it orally! Hope this helps someone-Jodie L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Oh, sorry. I don't do MMS enemas. Glad they seem to work for you. I guess you could drink kefir on a regular basis to replenish your 'friendlies' if you have doubts. Léna Lena, I understand the purpose of a CE. What I am confused about is using the MMS enema. I thought that the MMS does not kill off the good bacteria in the colon or gut....but who knows....It did work good however. J.L > > Hi all, I know others have been curious about this protocol, so I will > be the guinea pig and share my experience to help others! > > I did my first enema as instructed. I did however only start at 1/4 a > dose because of the "oral, inhalation & baths" I am already doing. I > seemed to have a good reaction to it and felt much better then when > talking it orally. I felt much stronger and was really surprised at my > reaction! Maybe it has something to do with by-passing the gut...as I > know I have a lot of "junk" their. My goal is to do it 2X a day at low > dose and build up gradually from their. > > I think it maybe like the "transdermal" where you can tolerate it > better because it doesn't have to go through the gut first. > Anyways....if this is just like having MMS deliverd via IV...and that > effective....then I am on board 100 percent. Thus reaching a lot more > pathogens then just taken it orally! Hope this helps someone-Jodie L. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Hi, i feel better on mms also i take it orally, but lately i have been trying to take it dermally with dmso, i forgot or lost the original instructions to take it dermally, i activate five drops or so of mms and ad five or so drops of dmso with a tbls of water and pour it on my skin where i leave it on until it dries, im not really sure if this is the exact correct way of applying the mms with dmso but i am doing it that way. i tried doing a coffee anema it does not seem to work for me the water comes all out i can t keep it inside long enough so it seem do nothing for me. though i heard it is very healthy, for some reason i am unable to hold the water. i did try a mms douche i did feel a bit better after.DamariseTo: Lyme_and_Rife From: drumroll@...Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 23:36:20 -0500Subject: Re: Re: 1st MMS-enema-experience Oh, sorry. I don't do MMS enemas. Glad they seem to work for you. I guess you could drink kefir on a regular basis to replenish your 'friendlies' if you have doubts. Léna Lena, I understand the purpose of a CE. What I am confused about is using the MMS enema. I thought that the MMS does not kill off the good bacteria in the colon or gut....but who knows....It did work good however. J.L > > Hi all, I know others have been curious about this protocol, so I will > be the guinea pig and share my experience to help others! > > I did my first enema as instructed. I did however only start at 1/4 a > dose because of the "oral, inhalation & baths" I am already doing. I > seemed to have a good reaction to it and felt much better then when > talking it orally. I felt much stronger and was really surprised at my > reaction! Maybe it has something to do with by-passing the gut...as I > know I have a lot of "junk" their. My goal is to do it 2X a day at low > dose and build up gradually from their. > > I think it maybe like the "transdermal" where you can tolerate it > better because it doesn't have to go through the gut first. > Anyways....if this is just like having MMS deliverd via IV...and that > effective....then I am on board 100 percent. Thus reaching a lot more > pathogens then just taken it orally! Hope this helps someone-Jodie L. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Hi Damarise, The transdermal version of MMS is protocol #3000... Here is the link that explains the proper way to use this protocol... http://jimhumble.biz/protocol-3000.html MMS transdermal should be used for 4 days on, 3 days off, this allows your skin to rejuvenate. Continue to use orally during your off times.. I use aloe vera gel after I am done and on the off days... Coconut oil or any good skin conditioning oil will help the skin... You add your drops of MMS into a glass, then add your citric acid, I presume you are using 50% citric acid, so you then wait 20 seconds for MMS to activate, add in your DMSO and 1 oz of distilled water... Then apply.. Please be sure the area you are going to apply has been wiped clean with a wet cloth, no soap... Yes, you do allow it to dry on your skin.. I think you are finding that MMS is your friend, it is a very good way of killing pathogens and getting back to better health... Just try not to herx while using MMS, best to use as much as we can without causing a herx... Take care, Jim > > > > Hi all, I know others have been curious about this protocol, so I will > > be the guinea pig and share my experience to help others! > > > > I did my first enema as instructed. I did however only start at 1/4 a > > dose because of the " oral, inhalation & baths " I am already doing. I > > seemed to have a good reaction to it and felt much better then when > > talking it orally. I felt much stronger and was really surprised at my > > reaction! Maybe it has something to do with by-passing the gut...as I > > know I have a lot of " junk " their. My goal is to do it 2X a day at low > > dose and build up gradually from their. > > > > I think it maybe like the " transdermal " where you can tolerate it > > better because it doesn't have to go through the gut first. > > Anyways....if this is just like having MMS deliverd via IV...and that > > effective....then I am on board 100 percent. Thus reaching a lot more > > pathogens then just taken it orally! Hope this helps someone-Jodie L. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Hi,thanks for the information, i applied it activating the mms twenty seconds, but a few times i let it activate up to three minutes, does this make it ineffective, once i activate the mms about six drops i add a tsp of dmso and a tbls or two of water and wipe it on my leg and let it dry some of the solution falls or drips of my leg so a portion of the solution is being used, i the second time i used it i ddn t get any burns. could this mean the mms is not activated..... i am trying to take the mms as much as possible the only problem is im also taking vitamin c and salt and timing them becomes a bit consfusing so one day i may take vitamine c salt protocal and another day il take just mms. but i was wondering if i took the mms dermally does the vitamin c and salt protocal disactivate the mms.i tried doing the marshall protocal for a week, it worked i think but it made me so sick, so i stopped for the time being and started on the vitamine c and salt protocal, but now im getting strange symptoms, i think my problme with these bacteria which ever one i have was mostly neurological and after a fertility test uterun, but now after having a cut on my hand and the wound didn t heal for long time which was strange as usually i heal very fast, i began to have pain in one of my fingers now it moved to my knee, i also felt a strange sensation like something moving from my hand to my elbow, anyway now im having for the first time joint inflamation which i never had before or never noticed i had. so i a getting a bit worried wether i should go on antnibiotics, continue the vitamine c salt protocal or use mms. when i get inflamtaion does that mean the bacteria is active. i am still doing the rife, i don t seem to getting that many hex reactions except with 655 i think. some told me to check the files for alex levy frequencie, where do i find these files. someone posted frequencies they use in holland, and they posted them in the files, i m not sure where to check for that....thanks ahead of timeDamariseTo: Lyme_and_Rife From: jimjax2@...Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 15:58:21 +0000Subject: Re: 1st MMS-enema-experience Hi Damarise, The transdermal version of MMS is protocol #3000... Here is the link that explains the proper way to use this protocol... http://jimhumble.biz/protocol-3000.html MMS transdermal should be used for 4 days on, 3 days off, this allows your skin to rejuvenate. Continue to use orally during your off times.. I use aloe vera gel after I am done and on the off days... Coconut oil or any good skin conditioning oil will help the skin... You add your drops of MMS into a glass, then add your citric acid, I presume you are using 50% citric acid, so you then wait 20 seconds for MMS to activate, add in your DMSO and 1 oz of distilled water... Then apply.. Please be sure the area you are going to apply has been wiped clean with a wet cloth, no soap... Yes, you do allow it to dry on your skin.. I think you are finding that MMS is your friend, it is a very good way of killing pathogens and getting back to better health... Just try not to herx while using MMS, best to use as much as we can without causing a herx... Take care, Jim > > > > Hi all, I know others have been curious about this protocol, so I will > > be the guinea pig and share my experience to help others! > > > > I did my first enema as instructed. I did however only start at 1/4 a > > dose because of the "oral, inhalation & baths" I am already doing. I > > seemed to have a good reaction to it and felt much better then when > > talking it orally. I felt much stronger and was really surprised at my > > reaction! Maybe it has something to do with by-passing the gut...as I > > know I have a lot of "junk" their. My goal is to do it 2X a day at low > > dose and build up gradually from their. > > > > I think it maybe like the "transdermal" where you can tolerate it > > better because it doesn't have to go through the gut first. > > Anyways....if this is just like having MMS deliverd via IV...and that > > effective....then I am on board 100 percent. Thus reaching a lot more > > pathogens then just taken it orally! Hope this helps someone-Jodie L. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Damarise, Sounds to me like all your symptoms that you are concerned about are actually herxes! J.L. > > > > > > > > Hi all, I know others have been curious about this protocol, so I will > > > > be the guinea pig and share my experience to help others! > > > > > > > > I did my first enema as instructed. I did however only start at 1/4 a > > > > dose because of the " oral, inhalation & baths " I am already doing. I > > > > seemed to have a good reaction to it and felt much better then when > > > > talking it orally. I felt much stronger and was really surprised at my > > > > reaction! Maybe it has something to do with by-passing the gut...as I > > > > know I have a lot of " junk " their. My goal is to do it 2X a day at low > > > > dose and build up gradually from their. > > > > > > > > I think it maybe like the " transdermal " where you can tolerate it > > > > better because it doesn't have to go through the gut first. > > > > Anyways....if this is just like having MMS deliverd via IV...and that > > > > effective....then I am on board 100 percent. Thus reaching a lot more > > > > pathogens then just taken it orally! Hope this helps someone-Jodie L. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 HiThanks for answering, i hope they are hexes and not the bacteria infiltrating other parts of me...Damarise.To: Lyme_and_Rife From: mrwyattguy@...Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 20:58:04 +0000Subject: Re: 1st MMS-enema-experience Damarise, Sounds to me like all your symptoms that you are concerned about are actually herxes! J.L. > > > > > > > > Hi all, I know others have been curious about this protocol, so I will > > > > be the guinea pig and share my experience to help others! > > > > > > > > I did my first enema as instructed. I did however only start at 1/4 a > > > > dose because of the "oral, inhalation & baths" I am already doing. I > > > > seemed to have a good reaction to it and felt much better then when > > > > talking it orally. I felt much stronger and was really surprised at my > > > > reaction! Maybe it has something to do with by-passing the gut...as I > > > > know I have a lot of "junk" their. My goal is to do it 2X a day at low > > > > dose and build up gradually from their. > > > > > > > > I think it maybe like the "transdermal" where you can tolerate it > > > > better because it doesn't have to go through the gut first. > > > > Anyways....if this is just like having MMS deliverd via IV...and that > > > > effective....then I am on board 100 percent. Thus reaching a lot more > > > > pathogens then just taken it orally! Hope this helps someone-Jodie L. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Hi Barbara and Damarise, Please be careful with what you put in enemas. The intestinal flora balance is very delicate. In my search for Candida solutions, I ran across a person who used Hydorogen Peroxide in an enema and did a lot of lasting damage to the mucous lining. I do coffee enemas and add glutathione to detox the liver. I have also put rhizol ozonated oils or straight ozonated water in my enemas and had pretty good herxes, but MMS really does bother my ulcer in my stomach which means that it can be hard on delicate areas. I did MMS for several months and had to stop as my stomach pain grew increasingly worse. I think the HPylori might have caused a permanent week spot in the wall of my stomach. Anyway, I really don't think MMS in an enema is a good idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, I know others have been curious about this protocol, so I > > will > > > > > > > > be the guinea pig and share my experience to help others! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did my first enema as instructed. I did however only start at 1/4 > > a > > > > > > > > dose because of the " oral, inhalation & baths " I am already doing. I > > > > > > > > seemed to have a good reaction to it and felt much better then when > > > > > > > > talking it orally. I felt much stronger and was really surprised at > > my > > > > > > > > reaction! Maybe it has something to do with by-passing the gut...as > > I > > > > > > > > know I have a lot of " junk " their. My goal is to do it 2X a day at > > low > > > > > > > > dose and build up gradually from their. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it maybe like the " transdermal " where you can tolerate it > > > > > > > > better because it doesn't have to go through the gut first. > > > > > > > > Anyways....if this is just like having MMS deliverd via IV...and > > that > > > > > > > > effective....then I am on board 100 percent. Thus reaching a lot > > more > > > > > > > > pathogens then just taken it orally! Hope this helps someone-Jodie L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Hi, thanks for your advise and storyim still confused on if i am getting hex reactions or my infections are getting worse. one day i am ok, the next i start to feel sick again, but i noticed if i miss a day of doing a vitamine c and salt protocal or mms, i start to feel sick. so i feel maybe the infections are getting worse as i miss any protocal, as for the rife im still trying to understand if i am hitting the right frequencies and if i am getting hexes or just feeling sick....i think as time goes i will get the routine and understand what is really happening to me...thanks for the adviseDamariseTo: Lyme_and_Rife From: sueblanton@...Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:32:32 +0000Subject: Re: 1st MMS-enema-experience Hi Barbara and Damarise, Please be careful with what you put in enemas. The intestinal flora balance is very delicate. In my search for Candida solutions, I ran across a person who used Hydorogen Peroxide in an enema and did a lot of lasting damage to the mucous lining. I do coffee enemas and add glutathione to detox the liver. I have also put rhizol ozonated oils or straight ozonated water in my enemas and had pretty good herxes, but MMS really does bother my ulcer in my stomach which means that it can be hard on delicate areas. I did MMS for several months and had to stop as my stomach pain grew increasingly worse. I think the HPylori might have caused a permanent week spot in the wall of my stomach. Anyway, I really don't think MMS in an enema is a good idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, I know others have been curious about this protocol, so I > > will > > > > > > > > be the guinea pig and share my experience to help others! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did my first enema as instructed. I did however only start at 1/4 > > a > > > > > > > > dose because of the "oral, inhalation & baths" I am already doing. I > > > > > > > > seemed to have a good reaction to it and felt much better then when > > > > > > > > talking it orally. I felt much stronger and was really surprised at > > my > > > > > > > > reaction! Maybe it has something to do with by-passing the gut...as > > I > > > > > > > > know I have a lot of "junk" their. My goal is to do it 2X a day at > > low > > > > > > > > dose and build up gradually from their. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it maybe like the "transdermal" where you can tolerate it > > > > > > > > better because it doesn't have to go through the gut first. > > > > > > > > Anyways....if this is just like having MMS deliverd via IV...and > > that > > > > > > > > effective....then I am on board 100 percent. Thus reaching a lot > > more > > > > > > > > pathogens then just taken it orally! Hope this helps someone-Jodie L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Hi, thanks for sharing your experience and advise.i have some strange symtoms and i am still trying to find out what they are. did you apply the mms with dmso. i am not sure what castor oil does exacly but when i had very bad inflamation and pain on my ankle once with a stocking very tight and the pain went away the next day, you can try that, it won t hurt. hope your healing now. the mms i am going to try it again with six drops of mms, citric acid and dmso with one oz of distilled water. and see what happens. i feel the cut i had just errupted someone maybe bacteria got in and started to infect my joints, because i started to have stiffness in my hands after that now i am getting occational pain in my knee, i am not sure if it is a hex or the infections spreading. that is what is scaring me, if the infection is spreading i should be going on anti biotics, but i am trying to avoid them, i guess il have to really stick to the mms and coil as much as possible, but the other problem i have is getting the right frequencies...i am still experiementing with the frequencies and i am not doing any one consistently. so this may be holding back my recovery. anyway thank you for sharing your story, hope you heal soon.DamariseTo: Lyme_and_Rife From: gmaoceans@...Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 21:20:07 -0800Subject: Re: Re: 1st MMS-enema-experience Hi Damarise, not certain of all your symptoms but here is what happens to me. when i used the mms transdermally, where i applied it, that night i really hurt. also found i had inflamation. it happened when i did my forearms and then on my lower leggs also. this pain is pain i had not felt for many, many yrs. also the inflamation was worse than i've had for a long time. after a couple more treatment, i was quite sick for several wks. in a way that felt like the herx when they overtreated me with doxy and flagyl and was killing to fast, probably lyme is my guess. i over did the mms treatment, so have tried to back off and wait for this one to clear. so here is my guess. i think i was killing lyme. i was dx with lupus and fibromyalgia 30+ yrs ago and went through a lot of pain and inflamation. in '07 llmd said it was probably lyme. don't think i had any co infections at that time. got lyme again plus cos in early 2000's. but this pain was similar to the original lyme pain that took yrs to get under control with trigger pt injection, massage and chiro adj. etc. but, again, pain is a herx with many of the cos. sooooo??? anyway, the pain and inflamation you experienced could be a herx like mine. not sure about the cut on your hand. but be careful with treatment and go slow. i always seem to learn the hard way. don't do that. hope this helps. barbara HiThanks for answering, i hope they are hexes and not the bacteria infiltrating other parts of me...Damarise. To: Lyme_and_Rife From: mrwyattguy@...Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 20:58:04 +0000 Subject: Re: 1st MMS-enema-experience Damarise, Sounds to me like all your symptoms that you are concerned about are actually herxes! J.L.> > > > > > > > Hi all, I know others have been curious about this protocol, so I will > > > > be the guinea pig and share my experience to help others! > > > > > > > > I did my first enema as instructed. I did however only start at 1/4 a > > > > dose because of the "oral, inhalation & baths" I am already doing. I > > > > seemed to have a good reaction to it and felt much better then when > > > > talking it orally. I felt much stronger and was really surprised at my > > > > reaction! Maybe it has something to do with by-passing the gut...as I > > > > know I have a lot of "junk" their. My goal is to do it 2X a day at low > > > > dose and build up gradually from their.> > > > > > > > I think it maybe like the "transdermal" where you can tolerate it > > > > better because it doesn't have to go through the gut first. > > > > Anyways....if this is just like having MMS deliverd via IV...and that > > > > effective....then I am on board 100 percent. Thus reaching a lot more > > > > pathogens then just taken it orally! Hope this helps someone-Jodie L.> > > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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