Re: getting out of breath

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ok , I'm a little thick.. Is this telling me no matter what my #'s are I need to use my O2 ?? I'm just now into super hero's.. Peggy

on 5/13/06 8:51 PM, at kpoooh9@... wrote:

Hi Gang Here is a little something I read on oxygen levels P UIP 8/00

I am using oxygen almost 24/7. I am on 1- 1.5 ltr when walking, and 2-3

liters when exercising or having some major coughing flare ups. And

I don't use it while at rest. This is the scoop with me, and my

thoughts why we get out of breath when our sats are in the 90's. My

sats at room air is 91-96 depending on the type of day I am having,

or based on the enviornment, ie. rain, snow, etc. While on oxygen my

sats can jump up to 99 100%. While I was at the gym, my sats were

95, however, my pulse can jump up to 121, still on oxygen at 2

liters. Reason is that I haven't done any exercises in awhile. The

muscles around the lungs are weak, thus working harder to get oxygen

into the other parts of the body.

Our lungs are not like people with COPD, were their lungs are

obstructed. They can't get the oxygen into their lungs.

With pulmonary fibrosis, we can get oxygen into our lungs, but our

lungs are being " restricted " from getting oxygen into the other

parts of our body, ie, blood stream, heart, brain, etc. Sure we can

get the oxygen into our lungs but it is being " restricted " because

of the scar/fibrosis. Therefore, it is harder to get the oxygen into

the other parts of the body. By the time the oxygen gets into the

other parts of our body, it will began to change into carbon

dioxide. So as we are walking, exercising, talking, and eating,or

whatever the different parts of the body that is needed to

accomplish a task, it is working harder because the lungs are not

capable of giving the appropriate amount of oxygen that the body

needs, even with supplement oxygen. If you haven't exercise in

awhile, the muscles, and organs in your body will slowly get weaker,

and weaker, demanding more and more oxygen from the lungs. All the

muscles in your body will grow weaker, including the muscles around

the heart. This is why our heart rate goes up. Our bodies are

working harder and harder to get the oxygen that is needed to

survive. When I started exercises last year, my oxygen level was 97

and my heart rate was 148. Sure I have enough oxygen in my lungs to

give to the heart, but the heart couldn't get to it, because the

muscles were too weak to help the heart get the oxygen. So by the

time the lungs distributes the oxygen to the muscles and into the

heart, it will have already have begun to change into carbon

dioxide. We need the supplemental oxygen to clean out the carbon

dioxide from our body. If we don't have the additional oxygen, the

carbon dioxide will create body ache, headaches, fuzzy or short term

memory, liver problems, heart problems, increased heart rate, etc.

Lets look at this on an elementary level. Say that you are writing

a story, and the Oxygen and the lungs are like super heroes that

will help all in need within his universe- " The Body " i.e. the heart,

brain, liver, kidney, blood system, muscles, blood vessels, skin,

eyes, etc. The body knows that the lung is the oxygen's best friend

and second to the super hero, the oxygen. Look at it like Batman and

Robin. The Super heroes- oxygen and lungs. The oxygen needs his

buddy, the lungs to help provide enough oxygen to all in need within

the Universe- " The Body " . The heart, brain, liver, muscles, etc. They

all need so much oxygen to survive. The oxygen is doing his job and

supplying the oxygen to the lungs. The lungs job is to provide

enough oxygen to the others in the body. The lungs are filled, ready

to distribute what is needed to other parts of the body. However,

there is a blockage-fibrosis in the lungs. The lungs is filled and

sometimes over flowing with oxygen-sats 98-100%. The lungs wants to

give the oxygen to his friends, the heart, brain, muscles, etc, but

the oxygen can't get through the lungs with all the fibrosis that

looks like a thick spider web. In the meantime, the heart, brain,

and muscles are screaming and fighting each other for more oxygen.

They are getting some, but not enough. They know they have to work

together in order to survive. TEAM WORK!!! If one part of the body

breaks down, the other parts will need to work harder to pick up the

slack of that one organ or body part that is not strong enough to

complete it's task. Each part of the body is working hard to

survive. However they are slowly being poisoned by the carbon

dioxide. Every part of the body is gasping for more oxygen--gasping,

gasping. The heart is pumping harder, (The pulse goes up and up),

the muscles are getting weaker, weaker, the brain is getting fuzzy,

and all are demanding that the lungs give more oxygen. The lungs

wants to, but it can't. The lungs are working harder and harder to

get the oxygen to his friends, the heart, lungs, brian, muscles,

liver, blood stream, etc. (This is the shortness of breath), but the

oxygen would have begun to change into carbon dioxide by the time it

gets to his friends,heart, lung, liver, brain, blood system,

muscles, etc.

While at rest, the lungs is filling up with oxygen. The sats is 99-

100. However, the scar/fibrosis is stiffening up forming a very hard

web. But, because the other parts of the body doesn't demand that

much oxygen at rest, it would get enough from the " sick " lung. The

lung can still do its job by providing the oxygen needed to the

other parts of the body while at rest. It is only during movement

that the body demands more oxygen. Since the lung has rested for a

time,the scar will stiffened even more, and it will be even harder

to get the oxygen to the other parts of the body while doing any

movement especially after the rest.

I hope this make sense.

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Hello, or , or whoever wrote this, or anybody at all: Okay, now considering the story I just read about pf and oxygen, I really have a question that needs answered. I have COPD, PF, Diabetes, and an enlarged heart. Now...where do I stand in this story. Barb in KY PF/11-05 wrote: Hi Gang Here is a little something I read on oxygen levels P UIP 8/00 I am using oxygen almost 24/7. I am on 1- 1.5 ltr when walking, and 2-3 liters when exercising or having some major coughing flare ups. And I don't use it while at rest. This is the scoop with me, and my

thoughts why we get out of breath when our sats are in the 90's. My sats at room air is 91-96 depending on the type of day I am having, or based on the enviornment, ie. rain, snow, etc. While on oxygen my sats can jump up to 99 100%. While I was at the gym, my sats were 95, however, my pulse can jump up to 121, still on oxygen at 2 liters. Reason is that I haven't done any exercises in awhile. The muscles around the lungs are weak, thus working harder to get oxygen into the other parts of the body.Our lungs are not like people with COPD, were their lungs are obstructed. They can't get the oxygen into their lungs.With pulmonary fibrosis, we can get oxygen into our lungs, but our lungs are being "restricted" from getting oxygen into the other parts of our body, ie, blood stream, heart, brain, etc. Sure we can get the oxygen into our lungs but it is being "restricted" because of the scar/fibrosis. Therefore, it

is harder to get the oxygen into the other parts of the body. By the time the oxygen gets into the other parts of our body, it will began to change into carbon dioxide. So as we are walking, exercising, talking, and eating,or whatever the different parts of the body that is needed to accomplish a task, it is working harder because the lungs are not capable of giving the appropriate amount of oxygen that the body needs, even with supplement oxygen. If you haven't exercise in awhile, the muscles, and organs in your body will slowly get weaker, and weaker, demanding more and more oxygen from the lungs. All the muscles in your body will grow weaker, including the muscles around the heart. This is why our heart rate goes up. Our bodies are working harder and harder to get the oxygen that is needed to survive. When I started exercises last year, my oxygen level was 97 and my heart rate was 148. Sure I have enough

oxygen in my lungs to give to the heart, but the heart couldn't get to it, because the muscles were too weak to help the heart get the oxygen. So by the time the lungs distributes the oxygen to the muscles and into the heart, it will have already have begun to change into carbon dioxide. We need the supplemental oxygen to clean out the carbon dioxide from our body. If we don't have the additional oxygen, the carbon dioxide will create body ache, headaches, fuzzy or short term memory, liver problems, heart problems, increased heart rate, etc. Lets look at this on an elementary level. Say that you are writing a story, and the Oxygen and the lungs are like super heroes that will help all in need within his universe-"The Body"i.e. the heart, brain, liver, kidney, blood system, muscles, blood vessels, skin, eyes, etc. The body knows that the lung is the oxygen's best friend and second to the super hero, the

oxygen. Look at it like Batman and Robin. The Super heroes- oxygen and lungs. The oxygen needs his buddy, the lungs to help provide enough oxygen to all in need within the Universe-"The Body". The heart, brain, liver, muscles, etc. They all need so much oxygen to survive. The oxygen is doing his job and supplying the oxygen to the lungs. The lungs job is to provide enough oxygen to the others in the body. The lungs are filled, ready to distribute what is needed to other parts of the body. However, there is a blockage-fibrosis in the lungs. The lungs is filled and sometimes over flowing with oxygen-sats 98-100%. The lungs wants to give the oxygen to his friends, the heart, brain, muscles, etc, but the oxygen can't get through the lungs with all the fibrosis that looks like a thick spider web. In the meantime, the heart, brain, and muscles are screaming and fighting each other for more oxygen. They are getting some, but

not enough. They know they have to work together in order to survive. TEAM WORK!!! If one part of the body breaks down, the other parts will need to work harder to pick up the slack of that one organ or body part that is not strong enough to complete it's task. Each part of the body is working hard to survive. However they are slowly being poisoned by the carbon dioxide. Every part of the body is gasping for more oxygen--gasping, gasping. The heart is pumping harder, (The pulse goes up and up), the muscles are getting weaker, weaker, the brain is getting fuzzy, and all are demanding that the lungs give more oxygen. The lungs wants to, but it can't. The lungs are working harder and harder to get the oxygen to his friends, the heart, lungs, brian, muscles, liver, blood stream, etc. (This is the shortness of breath), but the oxygen would have begun to change into carbon dioxide by the time it gets to his friends,heart,

lung, liver, brain, blood system, muscles, etc. While at rest, the lungs is filling up with oxygen. The sats is 99-100. However, the scar/fibrosis is stiffening up forming a very hard web. But, because the other parts of the body doesn't demand that much oxygen at rest, it would get enough from the "sick" lung. The lung can still do its job by providing the oxygen needed to the other parts of the body while at rest. It is only during movement that the body demands more oxygen. Since the lung has rested for a time,the scar will stiffened even more, and it will be even harder to get the oxygen to the other parts of the body while doing any movement especially after the rest. I hope this make sense. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone

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Hi Peggy here is web sight on signs of respiratory distress, If you have any of these problems you need to be on O2. At rest if you numbers are good 93+ you can take off O2 but before you get up, put cannula back on for a minute or so to build up o2 and get rid of co2. Even thou your number are good you should all ways sleep on o2. Don't know if this is of any help. P UIP 8/00 http://www.ukhealthcare.uky.edu/content/content.asp?pageid=P01307Peggy wrote: ok , I'm a little thick.. Is this telling me no matter what my #'s are I need to use my O2 ?? I'm just now into super hero's.. Peggyon

5/13/06 8:51 PM, at kpoooh9@... wrote: Hi Gang Here is a little something I read on oxygen levels P UIP 8/00 I am using oxygen almost 24/7. I am on 1- 1.5 ltr when walking, and 2-3 liters when exercising or having some major coughing flare ups. And I don't use it while at rest. This is the scoop with me, and my thoughts why we get out of breath when our sats are in the 90's. My sats at room air is 91-96 depending on the type of day I am having, or based on the enviornment, ie. rain, snow, etc. While on oxygen my sats can jump up to 99 100%. While I was at the gym, my sats were 95, however, my pulse can jump up to 121, still on oxygen at 2 liters. Reason is that I haven't done any exercises in awhile. The muscles around the lungs are weak, thus working harder to get oxygen into the other parts of the

body.Our lungs are not like people with COPD, were their lungs are obstructed. They can't get the oxygen into their lungs.With pulmonary fibrosis, we can get oxygen into our lungs, but our lungs are being "restricted" from getting oxygen into the other parts of our body, ie, blood stream, heart, brain, etc. Sure we can get the oxygen into our lungs but it is being "restricted" because of the scar/fibrosis. Therefore, it is harder to get the oxygen into the other parts of the body. By the time the oxygen gets into the other parts of our body, it will began to change into carbon dioxide. So as we are walking, exercising, talking, and eating,or whatever the different parts of the body that is needed to accomplish a task, it is working harder because the lungs are not capable of giving the appropriate amount of oxygen that the body needs, even with supplement oxygen. If you haven't exercise in awhile, the

muscles, and organs in your body will slowly get weaker, and weaker, demanding more and more oxygen from the lungs. All the muscles in your body will grow weaker, including the muscles around the heart. This is why our heart rate goes up. Our bodies are working harder and harder to get the oxygen that is needed to survive. When I started exercises last year, my oxygen level was 97 and my heart rate was 148. Sure I have enough oxygen in my lungs to give to the heart, but the heart couldn't get to it, because the muscles were too weak to help the heart get the oxygen. So by the time the lungs distributes the oxygen to the muscles and into the heart, it will have already have begun to change into carbon dioxide. We need the supplemental oxygen to clean out the carbon dioxide from our body. If we don't have the additional oxygen, the carbon dioxide will create body ache, headaches, fuzzy or short term memory, liver

problems, heart problems, increased heart rate, etc. Lets look at this on an elementary level. Say that you are writing a story, and the Oxygen and the lungs are like super heroes that will help all in need within his universe-"The Body"i.e. the heart, brain, liver, kidney, blood system, muscles, blood vessels, skin, eyes, etc. The body knows that the lung is the oxygen's best friend and second to the super hero, the oxygen. Look at it like Batman and Robin. The Super heroes- oxygen and lungs. The oxygen needs his buddy, the lungs to help provide enough oxygen to all in need within the Universe-"The Body". The heart, brain, liver, muscles, etc. They all need so much oxygen to survive. The oxygen is doing his job and supplying the oxygen to the lungs. The lungs job is to provide enough oxygen to the others in the body. The lungs are filled, ready to distribute what is needed to other parts of the body. However,

there is a blockage-fibrosis in the lungs. The lungs is filled and sometimes over flowing with oxygen-sats 98-100%. The lungs wants to give the oxygen to his friends, the heart, brain, muscles, etc, but the oxygen can't get through the lungs with all the fibrosis that looks like a thick spider web. In the meantime, the heart, brain, and muscles are screaming and fighting each other for more oxygen. They are getting some, but not enough. They know they have to work together in order to survive. TEAM WORK!!! If one part of the body breaks down, the other parts will need to work harder to pick up the slack of that one organ or body part that is not strong enough to complete it's task. Each part of the body is working hard to survive. However they are slowly being poisoned by the carbon dioxide. Every part of the body is gasping for more oxygen--gasping, gasping. The heart is pumping harder, (The pulse goes up and up),

the muscles are getting weaker, weaker, the brain is getting fuzzy, and all are demanding that the lungs give more oxygen. The lungs wants to, but it can't. The lungs are working harder and harder to get the oxygen to his friends, the heart, lungs, brian, muscles, liver, blood stream, etc. (This is the shortness of breath), but the oxygen would have begun to change into carbon dioxide by the time it gets to his friends,heart, lung, liver, brain, blood system, muscles, etc. While at rest, the lungs is filling up with oxygen. The sats is 99-100. However, the scar/fibrosis is stiffening up forming a very hard web. But, because the other parts of the body doesn't demand that much oxygen at rest, it would get enough from the "sick" lung. The lung can still do its job by providing the oxygen needed to the other parts of the body while at rest. It is only during movement that the body demands more oxygen. Since the lung

has rested for a time,the scar will stiffened even more, and it will be even harder to get the oxygen to the other parts of the body while doing any movement especially after the rest. I hope this make sense. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

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Hi Barbara That is a good question. If you are not on o2 now and are showing signs of respiratory distress you need o2. Do you have a pulse oximeter? Best thing to have to know how you are doing in your daily life. As to where you stand i can;t help you much on that. P UIP 8/00 O2 24/7 8/04 Barbara Soice wrote: Hello, or , or whoever wrote this, or anybody at all: Okay, now considering the story I just read about pf and oxygen, I really have a question that needs answered. I have COPD, PF, Diabetes, and an enlarged heart. Now...where do I stand in this story. Barb in KY PF/11-05

wrote: Hi Gang Here is a little something I read on oxygen levels P UIP 8/00 I am using oxygen almost 24/7. I am on 1- 1.5 ltr when walking, and 2-3 liters when exercising or having some major coughing flare ups. And I don't use it while at rest. This is the scoop with me, and my thoughts why we get out of breath when our sats are in the 90's. My sats at room air is 91-96 depending on the type of day I am having, or based on the enviornment, ie. rain, snow, etc. While on oxygen my sats can jump up to 99 100%. While I was at the gym, my sats were 95, however, my pulse can jump up to 121, still on oxygen at 2 liters. Reason is that I

haven't done any exercises in awhile. The muscles around the lungs are weak, thus working harder to get oxygen into the other parts of the body.Our lungs are not like people with COPD, were their lungs are obstructed. They can't get the oxygen into their lungs.With pulmonary fibrosis, we can get oxygen into our lungs, but our lungs are being "restricted" from getting oxygen into the other parts of our body, ie, blood stream, heart, brain, etc. Sure we can get the oxygen into our lungs but it is being "restricted" because of the scar/fibrosis. Therefore, it is harder to get the oxygen into the other parts of the body. By the time the oxygen gets into the other parts of our body, it will began to change into carbon dioxide. So as we are walking, exercising, talking, and eating,or whatever the different parts of the body that is needed to accomplish a task, it is working harder because the lungs are not capable

of giving the appropriate amount of oxygen that the body needs, even with supplement oxygen. If you haven't exercise in awhile, the muscles, and organs in your body will slowly get weaker, and weaker, demanding more and more oxygen from the lungs. All the muscles in your body will grow weaker, including the muscles around the heart. This is why our heart rate goes up. Our bodies are working harder and harder to get the oxygen that is needed to survive. When I started exercises last year, my oxygen level was 97 and my heart rate was 148. Sure I have enough oxygen in my lungs to give to the heart, but the heart couldn't get to it, because the muscles were too weak to help the heart get the oxygen. So by the time the lungs distributes the oxygen to the muscles and into the heart, it will have already have begun to change into carbon dioxide. We need the supplemental oxygen to clean out the carbon dioxide from our body.

If we don't have the additional oxygen, the carbon dioxide will create body ache, headaches, fuzzy or short term memory, liver problems, heart problems, increased heart rate, etc. Lets look at this on an elementary level. Say that you are writing a story, and the Oxygen and the lungs are like super heroes that will help all in need within his universe-"The Body"i.e. the heart, brain, liver, kidney, blood system, muscles, blood vessels, skin, eyes, etc. The body knows that the lung is the oxygen's best friend and second to the super hero, the oxygen. Look at it like Batman and Robin. The Super heroes- oxygen and lungs. The oxygen needs his buddy, the lungs to help provide enough oxygen to all in need within the Universe-"The Body". The heart, brain, liver, muscles, etc. They all need so much oxygen to survive. The oxygen is doing his job and supplying the oxygen to the lungs. The lungs job is to provide

enough oxygen to the others in the body. The lungs are filled, ready to distribute what is needed to other parts of the body. However, there is a blockage-fibrosis in the lungs. The lungs is filled and sometimes over flowing with oxygen-sats 98-100%. The lungs wants to give the oxygen to his friends, the heart, brain, muscles, etc, but the oxygen can't get through the lungs with all the fibrosis that looks like a thick spider web. In the meantime, the heart, brain, and muscles are screaming and fighting each other for more oxygen. They are getting some, but not enough. They know they have to work together in order to survive. TEAM WORK!!! If one part of the body breaks down, the other parts will need to work harder to pick up the slack of that one organ or body part that is not strong enough to complete it's task. Each part of the body is working hard to survive. However they are slowly being poisoned by the carbon

dioxide. Every part of the body is gasping for more oxygen--gasping, gasping. The heart is pumping harder, (The pulse goes up and up), the muscles are getting weaker, weaker, the brain is getting fuzzy, and all are demanding that the lungs give more oxygen. The lungs wants to, but it can't. The lungs are working harder and harder to get the oxygen to his friends, the heart, lungs, brian, muscles, liver, blood stream, etc. (This is the shortness of breath), but the oxygen would have begun to change into carbon dioxide by the time it gets to his friends,heart, lung, liver, brain, blood system, muscles, etc. While at rest, the lungs is filling up with oxygen. The sats is 99-100. However, the scar/fibrosis is stiffening up forming a very hard web. But, because the other parts of the body doesn't demand that much oxygen at rest, it would get enough from the "sick" lung. The lung can still do its job by providing the

oxygen needed to the other parts of the body while at rest. It is only during movement that the body demands more oxygen. Since the lung has rested for a time,the scar will stiffened even more, and it will be even harder to get the oxygen to the other parts of the body while doing any movement especially after the rest. I hope this make sense. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.

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Hey, : Yes, I am on 02. I was on o2 before I had the biopsy. That was why I consented to the biopsy. My chest hurts me a lot, especially the last 3 or 4 days. I can't clean house, and am able to do limited cooking. Barb in KY pf/11-05 wrote: Hi Barbara That is a good question. If you are not on o2 now and are showing signs of respiratory distress you need o2. Do you have a pulse oximeter? Best thing to have to know how you are doing in your daily life. As to where you stand i can;t help you much on that. P UIP 8/00 O2 24/7 8/04 Barbara Soice wrote: Hello, or , or whoever wrote this, or anybody at all: Okay, now considering the story I just read about pf and oxygen, I really have a question that needs answered. I have COPD, PF, Diabetes, and an enlarged heart. Now...where do I stand in this story. Barb in KY PF/11-05 wrote: Hi Gang Here is a little something I read on oxygen levels P UIP 8/00 I am using oxygen almost 24/7. I am on 1- 1.5 ltr when walking, and 2-3 liters when exercising or having some major

coughing flare ups. And I don't use it while at rest. This is the scoop with me, and my thoughts why we get out of breath when our sats are in the 90's. My sats at room air is 91-96 depending on the type of day I am having, or based on the enviornment, ie. rain, snow, etc. While on oxygen my sats can jump up to 99 100%. While I was at the gym, my sats were 95, however, my pulse can jump up to 121, still on oxygen at 2 liters. Reason is that I haven't done any exercises in awhile. The muscles around the lungs are weak, thus working harder to get oxygen into the other parts of the body.Our lungs are not like people with COPD, were their lungs are obstructed. They can't get the oxygen into their lungs.With pulmonary fibrosis, we can get oxygen into our lungs, but our lungs are being "restricted" from getting oxygen into the other parts of our body, ie, blood stream, heart, brain, etc. Sure we can get the oxygen

into our lungs but it is being "restricted" because of the scar/fibrosis. Therefore, it is harder to get the oxygen into the other parts of the body. By the time the oxygen gets into the other parts of our body, it will began to change into carbon dioxide. So as we are walking, exercising, talking, and eating,or whatever the different parts of the body that is needed to accomplish a task, it is working harder because the lungs are not capable of giving the appropriate amount of oxygen that the body needs, even with supplement oxygen. If you haven't exercise in awhile, the muscles, and organs in your body will slowly get weaker, and weaker, demanding more and more oxygen from the lungs. All the muscles in your body will grow weaker, including the muscles around the heart. This is why our heart rate goes up. Our bodies are working harder and harder to get the oxygen that is needed to survive. When I started

exercises last year, my oxygen level was 97 and my heart rate was 148. Sure I have enough oxygen in my lungs to give to the heart, but the heart couldn't get to it, because the muscles were too weak to help the heart get the oxygen. So by the time the lungs distributes the oxygen to the muscles and into the heart, it will have already have begun to change into carbon dioxide. We need the supplemental oxygen to clean out the carbon dioxide from our body. If we don't have the additional oxygen, the carbon dioxide will create body ache, headaches, fuzzy or short term memory, liver problems, heart problems, increased heart rate, etc. Lets look at this on an elementary level. Say that you are writing a story, and the Oxygen and the lungs are like super heroes that will help all in need within his universe-"The Body"i.e. the heart, brain, liver, kidney, blood system, muscles, blood vessels, skin, eyes, etc. The

body knows that the lung is the oxygen's best friend and second to the super hero, the oxygen. Look at it like Batman and Robin. The Super heroes- oxygen and lungs. The oxygen needs his buddy, the lungs to help provide enough oxygen to all in need within the Universe-"The Body". The heart, brain, liver, muscles, etc. They all need so much oxygen to survive. The oxygen is doing his job and supplying the oxygen to the lungs. The lungs job is to provide enough oxygen to the others in the body. The lungs are filled, ready to distribute what is needed to other parts of the body. However, there is a blockage-fibrosis in the lungs. The lungs is filled and sometimes over flowing with oxygen-sats 98-100%. The lungs wants to give the oxygen to his friends, the heart, brain, muscles, etc, but the oxygen can't get through the lungs with all the fibrosis that looks like a thick spider web. In the meantime, the heart, brain, and

muscles are screaming and fighting each other for more oxygen. They are getting some, but not enough. They know they have to work together in order to survive. TEAM WORK!!! If one part of the body breaks down, the other parts will need to work harder to pick up the slack of that one organ or body part that is not strong enough to complete it's task. Each part of the body is working hard to survive. However they are slowly being poisoned by the carbon dioxide. Every part of the body is gasping for more oxygen--gasping, gasping. The heart is pumping harder, (The pulse goes up and up), the muscles are getting weaker, weaker, the brain is getting fuzzy, and all are demanding that the lungs give more oxygen. The lungs wants to, but it can't. The lungs are working harder and harder to get the oxygen to his friends, the heart, lungs, brian, muscles, liver, blood stream, etc. (This is the shortness of breath), but the oxygen

would have begun to change into carbon dioxide by the time it gets to his friends,heart, lung, liver, brain, blood system, muscles, etc. While at rest, the lungs is filling up with oxygen. The sats is 99-100. However, the scar/fibrosis is stiffening up forming a very hard web. But, because the other parts of the body doesn't demand that much oxygen at rest, it would get enough from the "sick" lung. The lung can still do its job by providing the oxygen needed to the other parts of the body while at rest. It is only during movement that the body demands more oxygen. Since the lung has rested for a time,the scar will stiffened even more, and it will be even harder to get the oxygen to the other parts of the body while doing any movement especially after the rest. I hope this make sense. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

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Hey P. HELP, I live in a small town that sits in a "bowl" with a rock quarry at the top. It is so dusty here you can't keep anything clean.Tennessee is known for humidity. Is it possible that maybe the air conditions as well as the dust could contribute to the ipf.We moved from our home of 20yrs in case mold, fungus, animals etc. might be cause. Nothing so far has helped, Do I need to move out of this town to one maybe with a little higher altitude or just a different area all together. Any suggestions? Does anyone else live around a very dusty area? God Bless and Keep every one of you ipf 7/05 Barbara Soice wrote: Hey, : Yes, I am on 02. I was on o2 before

I had the biopsy. That was why I consented to the biopsy. My chest hurts me a lot, especially the last 3 or 4 days. I can't clean house, and am able to do limited cooking. Barb in KY pf/11-05 wrote: Hi Barbara That is a good question. If you are not on o2 now and are showing signs of respiratory distress you need o2. Do you have a pulse oximeter? Best thing to have to know how you are doing in your daily life. As to where you stand i can;t help you much on that. P UIP 8/00 O2 24/7 8/04 Barbara Soice wrote: Hello, or , or whoever wrote this, or anybody at all: Okay, now considering the story I just read about pf and oxygen, I really have a question that needs answered. I have COPD, PF, Diabetes, and an enlarged heart. Now...where do I stand in this story. Barb in KY PF/11-05 wrote: Hi Gang Here is a little something I read on oxygen levels P UIP 8/00 I am using oxygen almost 24/7. I am on 1- 1.5 ltr when walking, and 2-3 liters when exercising or having some major coughing flare ups. And I don't use it while at rest. This is the

scoop with me, and my thoughts why we get out of breath when our sats are in the 90's. My sats at room air is 91-96 depending on the type of day I am having, or based on the enviornment, ie. rain, snow, etc. While on oxygen my sats can jump up to 99 100%. While I was at the gym, my sats were 95, however, my pulse can jump up to 121, still on oxygen at 2 liters. Reason is that I haven't done any exercises in awhile. The muscles around the lungs are weak, thus working harder to get oxygen into the other parts of the body.Our lungs are not like people with COPD, were their lungs are obstructed. They can't get the oxygen into their lungs.With pulmonary fibrosis, we can get oxygen into our lungs, but our lungs are being "restricted" from getting oxygen into the other parts of our body, ie, blood stream, heart, brain, etc. Sure we can get the oxygen into our lungs but it is being "restricted" because of the

scar/fibrosis. Therefore, it is harder to get the oxygen into the other parts of the body. By the time the oxygen gets into the other parts of our body, it will began to change into carbon dioxide. So as we are walking, exercising, talking, and eating,or whatever the different parts of the body that is needed to accomplish a task, it is working harder because the lungs are not capable of giving the appropriate amount of oxygen that the body needs, even with supplement oxygen. If you haven't exercise in awhile, the muscles, and organs in your body will slowly get weaker, and weaker, demanding more and more oxygen from the lungs. All the muscles in your body will grow weaker, including the muscles around the heart. This is why our heart rate goes up. Our bodies are working harder and harder to get the oxygen that is needed to survive. When I started exercises last year, my oxygen level was 97 and my heart rate was

148. Sure I have enough oxygen in my lungs to give to the heart, but the heart couldn't get to it, because the muscles were too weak to help the heart get the oxygen. So by the time the lungs distributes the oxygen to the muscles and into the heart, it will have already have begun to change into carbon dioxide. We need the supplemental oxygen to clean out the carbon dioxide from our body. If we don't have the additional oxygen, the carbon dioxide will create body ache, headaches, fuzzy or short term memory, liver problems, heart problems, increased heart rate, etc. Lets look at this on an elementary level. Say that you are writing a story, and the Oxygen and the lungs are like super heroes that will help all in need within his universe-"The Body"i.e. the heart, brain, liver, kidney, blood system, muscles, blood vessels, skin, eyes, etc. The body knows that the lung is the oxygen's best friend and second to

the super hero, the oxygen. Look at it like Batman and Robin. The Super heroes- oxygen and lungs. The oxygen needs his buddy, the lungs to help provide enough oxygen to all in need within the Universe-"The Body". The heart, brain, liver, muscles, etc. They all need so much oxygen to survive. The oxygen is doing his job and supplying the oxygen to the lungs. The lungs job is to provide enough oxygen to the others in the body. The lungs are filled, ready to distribute what is needed to other parts of the body. However, there is a blockage-fibrosis in the lungs. The lungs is filled and sometimes over flowing with oxygen-sats 98-100%. The lungs wants to give the oxygen to his friends, the heart, brain, muscles, etc, but the oxygen can't get through the lungs with all the fibrosis that looks like a thick spider web. In the meantime, the heart, brain, and muscles are screaming and fighting each other for more oxygen. They

are getting some, but not enough. They know they have to work together in order to survive. TEAM WORK!!! If one part of the body breaks down, the other parts will need to work harder to pick up the slack of that one organ or body part that is not strong enough to complete it's task. Each part of the body is working hard to survive. However they are slowly being poisoned by the carbon dioxide. Every part of the body is gasping for more oxygen--gasping, gasping. The heart is pumping harder, (The pulse goes up and up), the muscles are getting weaker, weaker, the brain is getting fuzzy, and all are demanding that the lungs give more oxygen. The lungs wants to, but it can't. The lungs are working harder and harder to get the oxygen to his friends, the heart, lungs, brian, muscles, liver, blood stream, etc. (This is the shortness of breath), but the oxygen would have begun to change into carbon dioxide by the time it gets

to his friends,heart, lung, liver, brain, blood system, muscles, etc. While at rest, the lungs is filling up with oxygen. The sats is 99-100. However, the scar/fibrosis is stiffening up forming a very hard web. But, because the other parts of the body doesn't demand that much oxygen at rest, it would get enough from the "sick" lung. The lung can still do its job by providing the oxygen needed to the other parts of the body while at rest. It is only during movement that the body demands more oxygen. Since the lung has rested for a time,the scar will stiffened even more, and it will be even harder to get the oxygen to the other parts of the body while doing any movement especially after the rest. I hope this make sense. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

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I live in lansing mi car factory town and untill I came back from the mountains I did not realize how polluted this city is atleast for my condition now , yet they say the best place for ipf patients is sea level I suppose at this point you will have to see what irritates your lungs less and in my case whats afforable good luck dorislinda arnold wrote: Hey P. HELP, I live in a small town that sits in a "bowl" with a rock quarry at the top. It is so dusty here you can't keep anything clean.Tennessee is known for humidity. Is it possible that maybe the air conditions as well as the dust could contribute to the ipf.We moved from our home of 20yrs in case mold, fungus, animals etc. might be cause. Nothing so far has helped, Do I need to move out of this town to one maybe with a little higher altitude or just a different area all together. Any suggestions? Does anyone else live around a very dusty area? God Bless and Keep every one of you ipf 7/05 Barbara Soice wrote: Hey, : Yes, I am on 02. I was on o2 before I had the biopsy. That was why I consented to the biopsy. My chest hurts me a lot, especially the last 3 or 4 days. I can't clean house, and am able to do limited cooking. Barb in KY pf/11-05 wrote: Hi Barbara That is a good

question. If you are not on o2 now and are showing signs of respiratory distress you need o2. Do you have a pulse oximeter? Best thing to have to know how you are doing in your daily life. As to where you stand i can;t help you much on that. P UIP 8/00 O2 24/7 8/04 Barbara Soice wrote: Hello, or , or whoever wrote this, or anybody at all: Okay, now considering the story I just read about pf and oxygen, I really have a question that needs answered. I have COPD, PF, Diabetes, and an enlarged heart. Now...where do I stand in this story. Barb in KY PF/11-05

wrote: Hi Gang Here is a little something I read on oxygen levels P UIP 8/00 I am using oxygen almost 24/7. I am on 1- 1.5 ltr when walking, and 2-3 liters when exercising or having some major coughing flare ups. And I don't use it while at rest. This is the scoop with me, and my thoughts why we get out of breath when our sats are in the 90's. My sats at room air is 91-96 depending on the type of day I am having, or based on the enviornment, ie. rain, snow, etc. While on oxygen my sats can jump up to 99 100%. While I was at the gym, my sats were 95, however, my pulse can jump up to 121, still on oxygen at 2 liters. Reason is that I haven't done any exercises in

awhile. The muscles around the lungs are weak, thus working harder to get oxygen into the other parts of the body.Our lungs are not like people with COPD, were their lungs are obstructed. They can't get the oxygen into their lungs.With pulmonary fibrosis, we can get oxygen into our lungs, but our lungs are being "restricted" from getting oxygen into the other parts of our body, ie, blood stream, heart, brain, etc. Sure we can get the oxygen into our lungs but it is being "restricted" because of the scar/fibrosis. Therefore, it is harder to get the oxygen into the other parts of the body. By the time the oxygen gets into the other parts of our body, it will began to change into carbon dioxide. So as we are walking, exercising, talking, and eating,or whatever the different parts of the body that is needed to accomplish a task, it is working harder because the lungs are not capable of giving the appropriate

amount of oxygen that the body needs, even with supplement oxygen. If you haven't exercise in awhile, the muscles, and organs in your body will slowly get weaker, and weaker, demanding more and more oxygen from the lungs. All the muscles in your body will grow weaker, including the muscles around the heart. This is why our heart rate goes up. Our bodies are working harder and harder to get the oxygen that is needed to survive. When I started exercises last year, my oxygen level was 97 and my heart rate was 148. Sure I have enough oxygen in my lungs to give to the heart, but the heart couldn't get to it, because the muscles were too weak to help the heart get the oxygen. So by the time the lungs distributes the oxygen to the muscles and into the heart, it will have already have begun to change into carbon dioxide. We need the supplemental oxygen to clean out the carbon dioxide from our body. If we don't have the

additional oxygen, the carbon dioxide will create body ache, headaches, fuzzy or short term memory, liver problems, heart problems, increased heart rate, etc. Lets look at this on an elementary level. Say that you are writing a story, and the Oxygen and the lungs are like super heroes that will help all in need within his universe-"The Body"i.e. the heart, brain, liver, kidney, blood system, muscles, blood vessels, skin, eyes, etc. The body knows that the lung is the oxygen's best friend and second to the super hero, the oxygen. Look at it like Batman and Robin. The Super heroes- oxygen and lungs. The oxygen needs his buddy, the lungs to help provide enough oxygen to all in need within the Universe-"The Body". The heart, brain, liver, muscles, etc. They all need so much oxygen to survive. The oxygen is doing his job and supplying the oxygen to the lungs. The lungs job is to provide enough oxygen to the others in

the body. The lungs are filled, ready to distribute what is needed to other parts of the body. However, there is a blockage-fibrosis in the lungs. The lungs is filled and sometimes over flowing with oxygen-sats 98-100%. The lungs wants to give the oxygen to his friends, the heart, brain, muscles, etc, but the oxygen can't get through the lungs with all the fibrosis that looks like a thick spider web. In the meantime, the heart, brain, and muscles are screaming and fighting each other for more oxygen. They are getting some, but not enough. They know they have to work together in order to survive. TEAM WORK!!! If one part of the body breaks down, the other parts will need to work harder to pick up the slack of that one organ or body part that is not strong enough to complete it's task. Each part of the body is working hard to survive. However they are slowly being poisoned by the carbon dioxide. Every part of the body

is gasping for more oxygen--gasping, gasping. The heart is pumping harder, (The pulse goes up and up), the muscles are getting weaker, weaker, the brain is getting fuzzy, and all are demanding that the lungs give more oxygen. The lungs wants to, but it can't. The lungs are working harder and harder to get the oxygen to his friends, the heart, lungs, brian, muscles, liver, blood stream, etc. (This is the shortness of breath), but the oxygen would have begun to change into carbon dioxide by the time it gets to his friends,heart, lung, liver, brain, blood system, muscles, etc. While at rest, the lungs is filling up with oxygen. The sats is 99-100. However, the scar/fibrosis is stiffening up forming a very hard web. But, because the other parts of the body doesn't demand that much oxygen at rest, it would get enough from the "sick" lung. The lung can still do its job by providing the oxygen needed to the other parts

of the body while at rest. It is only during movement that the body demands more oxygen. Since the lung has rested for a time,the scar will stiffened even more, and it will be even harder to get the oxygen to the other parts of the body while doing any movement especially after the rest. I hope this make sense. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

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Hi , Just got to your post. I live in a very dusty part of California. It is also a "BOWL" and I have noticed that when I visit my brother who lives by the beach I breathe so much better and my heart doesn't pump as hard when I'm up and about. I have my house up for sale, mainly because it is 2 story and it is just too hard going up and down stairs-but also because I am going to try living by the beach for awhile and see how much it helps. linda arnold wrote: Hey P. HELP, I live in a small town that sits in a "bowl" with a rock quarry at the top. It is so dusty here you can't keep anything clean.Tennessee is known for humidity. Is it possible that maybe the air conditions as well as the dust could contribute to the ipf.We moved from our home of 20yrs in case mold, fungus, animals etc. might be cause. Nothing so far has helped, Do I need to move out of this town to one maybe with a little higher altitude or just a different area all together. Any suggestions? Does anyone else live around a very dusty area? God Bless and Keep every one of you ipf 7/05 Barbara Soice wrote: Hey, : Yes, I am on 02. I was on o2 before I had the biopsy. That was why I consented to the biopsy. My chest hurts me a lot, especially the last 3 or 4 days. I can't clean house, and am able to do limited cooking. Barb in KY pf/11-05

wrote: Hi Barbara That is a good question. If you are not on o2 now and are showing signs of respiratory distress you need o2. Do you have a pulse oximeter? Best thing to have to know how you are doing in your daily life. As to where you stand i can;t help you much on that. P UIP 8/00 O2 24/7 8/04 Barbara Soice wrote: Hello, or , or whoever wrote this, or anybody at all: Okay, now considering the story I just read about pf and oxygen, I really have a question that needs

answered. I have COPD, PF, Diabetes, and an enlarged heart. Now...where do I stand in this story. Barb in KY PF/11-05 wrote: Hi Gang Here is a little something I read on oxygen levels P UIP 8/00 I am using oxygen almost 24/7. I am on 1- 1.5 ltr when walking, and 2-3 liters when exercising or having some major coughing flare ups. And I don't use it while at rest. This is the scoop with me, and my thoughts why we get out of breath when our sats are in the 90's. My sats at room air is 91-96 depending on the type of day I am having, or based on the

enviornment, ie. rain, snow, etc. While on oxygen my sats can jump up to 99 100%. While I was at the gym, my sats were 95, however, my pulse can jump up to 121, still on oxygen at 2 liters. Reason is that I haven't done any exercises in awhile. The muscles around the lungs are weak, thus working harder to get oxygen into the other parts of the body.Our lungs are not like people with COPD, were their lungs are obstructed. They can't get the oxygen into their lungs.With pulmonary fibrosis, we can get oxygen into our lungs, but our lungs are being "restricted" from getting oxygen into the other parts of our body, ie, blood stream, heart, brain, etc. Sure we can get the oxygen into our lungs but it is being "restricted" because of the scar/fibrosis. Therefore, it is harder to get the oxygen into the other parts of the body. By the time the oxygen gets into the other parts of our body, it will began to change into

carbon dioxide. So as we are walking, exercising, talking, and eating,or whatever the different parts of the body that is needed to accomplish a task, it is working harder because the lungs are not capable of giving the appropriate amount of oxygen that the body needs, even with supplement oxygen. If you haven't exercise in awhile, the muscles, and organs in your body will slowly get weaker, and weaker, demanding more and more oxygen from the lungs. All the muscles in your body will grow weaker, including the muscles around the heart. This is why our heart rate goes up. Our bodies are working harder and harder to get the oxygen that is needed to survive. When I started exercises last year, my oxygen level was 97 and my heart rate was 148. Sure I have enough oxygen in my lungs to give to the heart, but the heart couldn't get to it, because the muscles were too weak to help the heart get the oxygen. So by the

time the lungs distributes the oxygen to the muscles and into the heart, it will have already have begun to change into carbon dioxide. We need the supplemental oxygen to clean out the carbon dioxide from our body. If we don't have the additional oxygen, the carbon dioxide will create body ache, headaches, fuzzy or short term memory, liver problems, heart problems, increased heart rate, etc. Lets look at this on an elementary level. Say that you are writing a story, and the Oxygen and the lungs are like super heroes that will help all in need within his universe-"The Body"i.e. the heart, brain, liver, kidney, blood system, muscles, blood vessels, skin, eyes, etc. The body knows that the lung is the oxygen's best friend and second to the super hero, the oxygen. Look at it like Batman and Robin. The Super heroes- oxygen and lungs. The oxygen needs his buddy, the lungs to help provide enough oxygen to all

in need within the Universe-"The Body". The heart, brain, liver, muscles, etc. They all need so much oxygen to survive. The oxygen is doing his job and supplying the oxygen to the lungs. The lungs job is to provide enough oxygen to the others in the body. The lungs are filled, ready to distribute what is needed to other parts of the body. However, there is a blockage-fibrosis in the lungs. The lungs is filled and sometimes over flowing with oxygen-sats 98-100%. The lungs wants to give the oxygen to his friends, the heart, brain, muscles, etc, but the oxygen can't get through the lungs with all the fibrosis that looks like a thick spider web. In the meantime, the heart, brain, and muscles are screaming and fighting each other for more oxygen. They are getting some, but not enough. They know they have to work together in order to survive. TEAM WORK!!! If one part of the body breaks down, the other parts will need to

work harder to pick up the slack of that one organ or body part that is not strong enough to complete it's task. Each part of the body is working hard to survive. However they are slowly being poisoned by the carbon dioxide. Every part of the body is gasping for more oxygen--gasping, gasping. The heart is pumping harder, (The pulse goes up and up), the muscles are getting weaker, weaker, the brain is getting fuzzy, and all are demanding that the lungs give more oxygen. The lungs wants to, but it can't. The lungs are working harder and harder to get the oxygen to his friends, the heart, lungs, brian, muscles, liver, blood stream, etc. (This is the shortness of breath), but the oxygen would have begun to change into carbon dioxide by the time it gets to his friends,heart, lung, liver, brain, blood system, muscles, etc. While at rest, the lungs is filling up with oxygen. The sats is 99-100. However, the

scar/fibrosis is stiffening up forming a very hard web. But, because the other parts of the body doesn't demand that much oxygen at rest, it would get enough from the "sick" lung. The lung can still do its job by providing the oxygen needed to the other parts of the body while at rest. It is only during movement that the body demands more oxygen. Since the lung has rested for a time,the scar will stiffened even more, and it will be even harder to get the oxygen to the other parts of the body while doing any movement especially after the rest. I hope this make sense. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

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