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Great Ellen

You are #6 to join our Challenge!

You want to 1. stay off of sugar and 2. eat more raw (I presume you mean

veggies? is that right?)

BTW - have you tried splenda? Its the new artificial sweetener, it's made

from sugar and tastes like sugar but has no ill effects on your bg! You can

cook with it and it is heavenly

Meenie

challenge

>From: ETyree5738@...

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>hi my name is Ellen, and my challenge is to stay off sugar as much as

>possible. i am addicted to the don stuff. will have a low and run for the

>sugar and than do not want to stop. keep on telling myself just one more

>little piece. will buy more cans of orange juice (sugar too) and take it

if

>i have a low. i am eating 50% raw and Will increase to about

>75%-100%everyday. Ellen

>

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Meenie, Where do you get this stuff. In a health food store? I love to

bake and have quit because I could not find anything that tasted right. I

would love to try this. Shelia

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hello

i wish u luck in ur goal..i am sure that u can do it..jsut keep ur mind on

that goal and u will do it..i have faith in u and i know all will be okay

good luck

burt

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Cheryl:

Walk every day

Drink more water

Challenge

>

>

>Hi all,

>Ok, we have a challenge going! This challenge is meant to help you change

>old habits or develope new ones. Each person is to pick two things that

>they promise to stick to for the duration of the challenge (beginning

>Tuesday July 6 and going for 21 days - we can do ANYTHING for just 3

weeks,

>RIGHT? <G>)

>If you'd like to join us in our challenge just let me know and I'll add you

>to the list. All you have to do is tell me what you want to change (or

>create) and , at the end of the 3 week period, let us know how you did.

>Please put " challenge " in the subject of all email regarding this challenge

>

>Ok so far we have:

>

>Shelia

>1. work on drinking her water

>2. walk every day

>

>

>1. work on getting her BG's in range

>2. no snitching candy!

>

>

>still deciding on what to pick

>

>Meenie

>1. drink 8-10 glasses of water a day

>2. Do crunches and/or walk every day

>

>I hope I have these right so far! If not, please let me know

>Anyone have a good name for our challenge? Pass along your suggestions and

>all the challengers will vote on the best name

> Meenie

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Meenie,

I accept you challenge. I have two goals I would like to work on. Firstly,

when I went for checkups this past month, my oncologist, primary, surgeons,

and cardiologist all agreed I could increase my excercise level. While all

agreed in theory, they all had varying degrees of increase. Bottom line,

after coordinating all these opinions, I am allowed 2 minutes of hard

exercise daily with as much walking as is possible. But I have been

procrastinating even though I was the one to suggest the whole durn thing in

the first place.

So, my first goal is to maintain that 2 minutes a day of hard exercise - this

being summer and it is incredibly hot and humid in FL - I intend utilizing my

exercycle for the hard exercise and the mall for walking.

The other goal I have in mind is my monitoring my BS level better. Also,

last month - I received an excellent 3-month level of 8.7 - for me that was a

reduction of the previous 3 month reading of 14.3 - so I am very please that

with insulin, diet and exercise I have been able to reduce my level that much

in what I consider a short amount of time and given that I am still receiving

chemo which pushes my BS level up exactly 200 pts on chemo days where it

remains or decreases slowly over the next 3 days for the spots on my liver

which remain undiagnosed because of their small size. But, through all this,

and the better level, I have become very lax in home monitoring. I need to

get back to that on a regular daily basis.

So, my two challenge goals are

1) 2 minutes of hard exercise daily

2) Home BS monitoring - before and after each meal, before and after chemo

and before bed and upon arising. Oh my poor fingers again!! (Actually that's

why I stopped - to give them a rest - but now it has been much too long and I

feel out of touch with me!)

Thanks for the great idea Meenie! 3 weeks is a great length of time - that's

the length of time it takes to create a new habit.

in Port Orange, FL

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Thanks Meenie, I will check out that site. Mike and I were talking about

that last nite. How people really don't understand how hard it is to have

this disease and watch everyone eat CHOC CAKE!!!! for example. I just want

to be able to cook with something that would help me. Shelia

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Hi Shelia

Because it is so new, production is slow is the US (it's been available in

Canada for quite awhile. )

Anyway, it's available in some areas and not in others but you can order it

on the net at:

http://www.splenda.com/cgi-bin/order2?source=lifescan

I have been so delighted with it. It's the first AS I've tried that you can

cook with. Also, there is absolutely no weird aftertaste (cooked or not) -

it tastes just like sugar !

Meenie

Re: challenge

>From: SRicha9391@...

>

>Meenie, Where do you get this stuff. In a health food store? I love to

>bake and have quit because I could not find anything that tasted right. I

>would love to try this. Shelia

>

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Thanks Meenie, I do apologize for not participating more of late - I do have

one bit of a problem - chemo has started to make me tired of late - although

that rough opatch too seems to be passing as long as I watch my resting

periods before, on the day of, and the day after chemo. Got so for a while I

was sleeping 20 hrs a day - better this last week or two and have been able

to participate more on my cancer list which is about 4 times more active than

this one - if you can believe that!

That's why I need to keep better track of my BGs - don't know if there's a

greater increase of late but I don't think so. It had stabilized at 200 over

and the doctors were satisfied with that since I was controlled every other

place - but you never know!

Then too I have a tendency to over do when I feel good and get myself into a

real problem.

In a message dated 99-07-03 17:38:49 EDT, you write:

<< Yaaay !!

I'm so glad to see you are doing well! Welcome to the challenge. I have

you down for:

1. Two minutes of " hard " exercise/day + some walking

2. Monitoring your bg's better every day

Keep it up! You're doing great

Meenie >>

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Thanks Meenie, I will. Shelia:)

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In a message dated 99-07-03 16:54:20 EDT, you write:

<< This is a challenge to everyone on the list to pick 1 or 2 things that they

really want to change and work on it strictly for 21 days beginning July 6

(this tues).

Just tell us what YOU want to work on and we will add you to our list! It'll

be fun:) >>

I want to join the challenge too!

My thing to work on is exercising every day. I am at a very basic level and

can do very little exercise right now, but need to at least stretch and walk

around some every day. Some days I don't because it is too hot or I am too

tired or bored to bother with it.

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In a message dated 99-07-03 17:32:16 EDT, you write:

<< My doctor just handed me an ADA exchange diet and

told me to " lose a little weight and watch your sugar intake " . It wasn't

until I started researching things myself that I got control of things.

My doctor never suggested I monitor myself. He never told me the effects of

carbs on my bg's - I just thought I had to cut out sugar! In fact, he told

me I was a " borderline diabetic " and I thought if I lost weight and cut out

sweets the whole thing would go away! >>

Did you have the same doctor I have!?!

My situation is a bit more complicated because I have PCOS, but I got the

same thing. Glucophage samples, a 1000 calorie a day ADA plan and told " no

more sweets " . That was all I got from him.

I am currently looking for a RE to replace this endo. I have now.

[Guest guest]

Burt,

Are you going to join our challenge?

This is a challenge to everyone on the list to pick 1 or 2 things that they

really want to change and work on it strictly for 21 days beginning July 6

(this tues).

Just tell us what YOU want to work on and we will add you to our list! It'll

be fun:)

Meenie

Re: challenge

>

>

>hello

>i wish u luck in ur goal..i am sure that u can do it..jsut keep ur mind on

>that goal and u will do it..i have faith in u and i know all will be okay

>good luck

>burt

>

>

>

>

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Thats for sure!! With Splenda I make yummies like Cheesecake (remember I

follow a low carb diet - not low fat!) and it is to die for ! mmmmmmm

It's true that people who don't have diabetes don't know much about it. I

sure didn't before I was diagnosed - come to think of it, I didn't AFTER I

was diagnosed either!! My doctor just handed me an ADA exchange diet and

told me to " lose a little weight and watch your sugar intake " . It wasn't

until I started researching things myself that I got control of things.

My doctor never suggested I monitor myself. He never told me the effects of

carbs on my bg's - I just thought I had to cut out sugar! In fact, he told

me I was a " borderline diabetic " and I thought if I lost weight and cut out

sweets the whole thing would go away! - Guess what!! It didn't.

I've found the best defense to parties and such where there might be

tempting goodies is to take your own " legal " treats The people you share

them with will be amazed to see that you don't have to drool over their

chocolate cake when you can have your own goodies, AND they will come to an

understanding of how you have to manage your diet (if they are family or

close friends that you feel like getting in-depth with) .

Anyway, I hope you try the splenda and enjoy it as much as I did. I didn't

try it for a long time because the only way I could find to get it was to

order over the net and I was a bit shy of doing that. Once I tried it I was

kicking myself for not doing it earlier. I didn't really believe it would

be this good .

Meenie

Re: challenge

>From: SRicha9391@...

>

>Thanks Meenie, I will check out that site. Mike and I were talking about

>that last nite. How people really don't understand how hard it is to have

>this disease and watch everyone eat CHOC CAKE!!!! for example. I just want

>to be able to cook with something that would help me. Shelia

>

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[Guest guest]

Yaaay !!

I'm so glad to see you are doing well! Welcome to the challenge. I have

you down for:

1. Two minutes of " hard " exercise/day + some walking

2. Monitoring your bg's better every day

Keep it up! You're doing great

Meenie

Re: Challenge

>From: clerk@...

>

>Meenie,

>

>I accept you challenge. I have two goals I would like to work on.

Firstly,

>when I went for checkups this past month, my oncologist, primary,

surgeons,

>and cardiologist all agreed I could increase my excercise level. While all

>agreed in theory, they all had varying degrees of increase. Bottom line,

>after coordinating all these opinions, I am allowed 2 minutes of hard

>exercise daily with as much walking as is possible. But I have been

>procrastinating even though I was the one to suggest the whole durn thing

in

>the first place.

>

>So, my first goal is to maintain that 2 minutes a day of hard exercise -

this

>being summer and it is incredibly hot and humid in FL - I intend utilizing

my

>exercycle for the hard exercise and the mall for walking.

>

>The other goal I have in mind is my monitoring my BS level better. Also,

>last month - I received an excellent 3-month level of 8.7 - for me that was

a

>reduction of the previous 3 month reading of 14.3 - so I am very please

that

>with insulin, diet and exercise I have been able to reduce my level that

much

>in what I consider a short amount of time and given that I am still

receiving

>chemo which pushes my BS level up exactly 200 pts on chemo days where it

>remains or decreases slowly over the next 3 days for the spots on my liver

>which remain undiagnosed because of their small size. But, through all

this,

>and the better level, I have become very lax in home monitoring. I need to

>get back to that on a regular daily basis.

>

>So, my two challenge goals are

>1) 2 minutes of hard exercise daily

>

>2) Home BS monitoring - before and after each meal, before and after chemo

>and before bed and upon arising. Oh my poor fingers again!! (Actually

that's

>why I stopped - to give them a rest - but now it has been much too long and

I

>feel out of touch with me!)

>

>Thanks for the great idea Meenie! 3 weeks is a great length of time -

that's

>the length of time it takes to create a new habit.

>

> in Port Orange, FL

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> Did you have the same doctor I have!?!

>

Seems she has the same doctor as I do as well.

JS in L.A.

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In a message dated 99-07-04 08:18:36 EDT, you write:

<< How does the glucophage work for you? My sister is on it and it helps a

lot

in controlling her diabetes but it upsets her stomach terribly. >>

When I was on 500 mg. I did not notice a thing. Maybe a slight stomach

rumble here and there that was all. Now I am on 1,000 mg and I am noticing

some stomach problems, but they are going away with time.

It has worked great. My bg stays pretty stable, and there are virtually no

lows. Technically you are not supposed to have any lows on glucophage, but

very rarely I will have one if I don't eat regularly (Which is an issue, the

glucophage has really decreased my appetite and sometimes I have to remind

myself not to go too long without eating.) It is also helping with the PCOS

symptoms. I also take a drug called Aldactone which is a diuretic with

hormone altering properties that gives an extra boost in taking care of the

PCOS. (Which after 21 years of no treatment, I am amazed and thrilled that

this is helping)

I have noticed a lot of improvement in the 7 months I have been on it. I may

possibly be increased to 1500 mg in September. I am sure the stomach

problems will really hit then, but I will just to have to wait and see.

Still looking for a better doctor, hope to have one by the end of the month.

[Guest guest]

Wow, ! That was an endo ? Mine was a family doc. Isn't it sad that

you have to find your own answers ? Thank goodness there is a wealth of

information available here, I would hate to be without a computer.

How does the glucophage work for you? My sister is on it and it helps a lot

in controlling her diabetes but it upsets her stomach terribly.

Meenie

Re: challenge

>From: arts@...

>

>In a message dated 99-07-03 17:32:16 EDT, you write:

>

><< My doctor just handed me an ADA exchange diet and

> told me to " lose a little weight and watch your sugar intake " . It wasn't

> until I started researching things myself that I got control of things.

> My doctor never suggested I monitor myself. He never told me the effects

of

> carbs on my bg's - I just thought I had to cut out sugar! In fact, he

told

> me I was a " borderline diabetic " and I thought if I lost weight and cut

out

> sweets the whole thing would go away! >>

>

>Did you have the same doctor I have!?!

>

>My situation is a bit more complicated because I have PCOS, but I got the

>same thing. Glucophage samples, a 1000 calorie a day ADA plan and told " no

>more sweets " . That was all I got from him.

>

>I am currently looking for a RE to replace this endo. I have now.

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Wow , this doc gets around, I'm in VA <G>

Meenie

Re: challenge

>

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>> Did you have the same doctor I have!?!

>>

>

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>Seems she has the same doctor as I do as well.

>

>JS in L.A.

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Hi Pat!

Wow for someone who is aiming small , that's quite a list! LOL

Ye Ha on the line dancing - I love doing that it's so much fun.

But on the pollen, please report your tactics. Is it kinda like running

between the rain drops? I'd love to figure out how to avoid that icky stuff

Welcome to the challenge

Meenie

[Guest guest]

Meenie - Regarding pollen: My Dr. had prescribed Claritin for me and I had

been using it for the past 3 years during allergy season. He recommended I

take it each day through the seasons - which were most of Spring, Summer,

and a good part of Fall. I gain weight when I'm on it, feel a little weird.

This season when I went on it, my weight went up, my sneezing stopped but my

eyes ran streams. I stopped on my own and shifted to Tylenol Sinus Allergies

and am taking it once in the morning and sometimes in the afternoon if I am

going to be outdoors or at bedtime if my allergies are acting up. It's been

more comfortable for me this way and my dr. said to stick with it and throw

away the Claritin. I have less of a problem with the weight on the tylenol

sinus.

We have two cats, both of who enjoy the outdoors and coming in and rubbing

against me or lap sitting and/or demanding petting and brushing and the

pollen flies. Taking a bath after encountering the cats affection and

washing my hair help, but it's a struggle even with the air conditioner on.

The solution would be to get rid of the cats, but I couldn't bear it -

besides my husband would probably leave with them if I did.

In short, a perfect solution is not at hand. - Pat

At 08:54 AM 7/4/99 -0400, you wrote:

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>Hi Pat!

>Wow for someone who is aiming small , that's quite a list! LOL

>Ye Ha on the line dancing - I love doing that it's so much fun.

>But on the pollen, please report your tactics. Is it kinda like running

>between the rain drops? I'd love to figure out how to avoid that icky stuff

>

>Welcome to the challenge

> Meenie

>

>

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Hey , I am on Glucopage and the first time I was on it was with a

Doctor that wasn't real good. I started on 2400mg a day! and I can tell you

it was to much. I stayed sick and lost quiet a bit of weight. My bs came

down to normal but it wasn't normal how I was feeling. I complained to my Dr

who seemed like he wasn't listening and did not want to take the time to

answer my questions so I quit going to him and quit taking the med. All this

did was hurt me more. Since then I have changed Dr. and he put me on 1000mg

a day stating before I was on to much. Yes I got sick but he told me I would

and said once it gets into the system and your body gets use to it that will

go away and it did. If I miss any I know it when I start taking it again but

it doesn't last long just hang in there. Shelia

[Guest guest]

Here are my challenges:

1) drinking 64 oz water daily

2) staying within my alotted carbs

Thanks for starting this!

in Cincinnati

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Piper

1. Stay AWAY from Sugar. NO sugar

2. Do daily crunches and indoor walking

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In a message dated 7/3/99 7:29:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, john@...

writes:

<< Did you have the same doctor I have!?!

>

Seems she has the same doctor as I do as well.

JS in L.A. >>

My internist was the same. However, he did order me to see the diabetes

educator and she, in turn, referred me to the dietician as well. I have

since switched to an endocrinologist for my diabetes care, and I love her! I

still see the internist for other problems. My internist is really good with

respiratory problems, and I have had few problems with asthmatic bronchitis.

Just keep looking, you can find a good doc!

in Cincinnati

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In a message dated 7/4/99 8:18:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

armina@... writes:

<< My sister is on it and it helps a lot

in controlling her diabetes but it upsets her stomach terribly. >>

Meenie -

Does she take her glucophage with food? That helps most people.

in Cincinnati