Re: OT: Homeopathics & MMS

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Hi, I am on homeopathics and mms. I usually wait 20-30 minutes between the two!

I don't believe homeopathy causes encysting at all. I can feel the lyme and

co's all under the surface with the immune supports that I am on!!!!!! It can

be a bit tricky determining what the homeopathy is doing....MMS is killing etc.

Just take it slow with the MMS till you can gauge symptoms. Jodie L.

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> Does anyone know if taking homeopathic supplements for lyme cause encysting?

I want to start taking MMS and am not sure whether to continue seeing my

homeopathic doctor & taking the supplements. I don't feel too good on the

supplements & don't want that to interfere with trying to determine which side

effects are from them or MMS. Does anyone currently take both & if so, how do

you schedule the dosing of both? Thanks.

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Are you on homeopathics from a doctor (with the lyme nosodes) to kill lyme or

just ordinary homeopathics from a health food store that are not specifically

for lyme? I'd like to stay on the homeopathics, but the doctor said they're

only killing the lyme and not supporting my immune system (I thought ALL

homeopathics supported the immune system.) Do you feel lousy from your

homeopathics? I have an appointment tomorrow with the doctor & have to decide

whether I'm going to continue or not. Thanks for your answers.

Susie

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> > Does anyone know if taking homeopathic supplements for lyme cause encysting?

I want to start taking MMS and am not sure whether to continue seeing my

homeopathic doctor & taking the supplements. I don't feel too good on the

supplements & don't want that to interfere with trying to determine which side

effects are from them or MMS. Does anyone currently take both & if so, how do

you schedule the dosing of both? Thanks.

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Susie, I feel lousy everyday and basically in a chronic state of herxing. Yes,

the homeopathic immune supports are pushing stuff (disease) to the surface. I

am being treated by a homeopath and not doing this myself....by know means. I

am basically on immune system supports/gemmos and a few other remedies. No lyme

nosodes as I was told....probably not strong enough for those! When I started

with the center I wasn't aware that I had Lyme or other Lyme co-infections. I

was being treated...for systemic strep/staph, gut issues etc. After the 3rd

clearing.....with miasams more lyme came rushing to the surface! The lyme

nosodes are probably making you feel worse as the are guiding your body to deal

with the lyme. With homeopathy you usually do feel worse before you get better.

For the past 6 months I have been doing MMS in conjunction to the homeopathy

supporting my body in multiple ways. I plan to get weaned off of most of them

over the next 6 months. I just haven't had the cash to purchase a coil yet but

that is my intent along with the MMS. Hope that helps! Jodie L.

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encysting? I want to start taking MMS and am not sure whether to continue

seeing my homeopathic doctor & taking the supplements. I don't feel too good on

the supplements & don't want that to interfere with trying to determine which

side effects are from them or MMS. Does anyone currently take both & if so, how

do you schedule the dosing of both? Thanks.

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Jodie, thanks for the info. I feel better now that I know I'm not the only one

feeling lousy with homeopathics. You know the saying--misery loves company! I

plan on getting a rife machine too but I still have to do more investigation to

decide which one is best for me. I know the coils are supposed to be better for

lyme, but I don't have much space & they seem to be big machines, plus hard to

use. I was considering either the gb-4000 or the EMEM. They seem to be smaller

& easier to use. I'll have to do more research before I buy.

Thanks again, Susie

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encysting? I want to start taking MMS and am not sure whether to continue

seeing my homeopathic doctor & taking the supplements. I don't feel too good on

the supplements & don't want that to interfere with trying to determine which

side effects are from them or MMS. Does anyone currently take both & if so, how

do you schedule the dosing of both? Thanks.

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Susie, If money is not the issue then you could get the gb-4000 with the MOPA

they have. It is supposed to be very powerful! Then you could have a lot of

killing power for lyme and any co-infections you may have! Jodie

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encysting? I want to start taking MMS and am not sure whether to continue

seeing my homeopathic doctor & taking the supplements. I don't feel too good on

the supplements & don't want that to interfere with trying to determine which

side effects are from them or MMS. Does anyone currently take both & if so, how

do you schedule the dosing of both? Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Susie,

I don't believe homeopathics cause encysting as so little is used.. Others here

are more

knowledgeable about them, so they may know more about this...

When using MMS, the goal always is not to herx... At times you will have smaller

herxes as you scale up on the dose, symptoms such as nausea, diarrhea (seldom)

more fatigue, feeling more ill, once you have one of these, cut back by 1 to 2

drops for 3 - 5 days, then try scaling up again.. You always want to take just

enough MMS, but not so much you have any of these symptoms..

The big concern with MMS is keeping Vitamin C at least 2 hours away from it as

it renders MMS useless quickly... I would keep antioxidant supps about 1 hour

away from MMS, but natural antioxidants in foods don't bother MMS. I also keep

medications 15 minutes away from MMS, they aren't bothered by MMS nor do they

bother MMS, I just don't like taking them together. Actually I keep all of my

non antioxidant supps 15 minutes from MMS..

I don't know if MMS will affect homeopathics, I think Jodie uses both so maybe

she will chime in...

Take care,

Jim

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> Does anyone know if taking homeopathic supplements for lyme cause encysting?

I want to start taking MMS and am not sure whether to continue seeing my

homeopathic doctor & taking the supplements. I don't feel too good on the

supplements & don't want that to interfere with trying to determine which side

effects are from them or MMS. Does anyone currently take both & if so, how do

you schedule the dosing of both? Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

I use Healthforce nutritionals , Truly natural vitamin C because it is a naturally occuring food source vit c , that I believe doesn’t interfer with mms like ascorbic acid vit c.

Hi Susie,

I don't believe homeopathics cause encysting as so little is used.. Others here are more

knowledgeable about them, so they may know more about this...

When using MMS, the goal always is not to herx... At times you will have smaller herxes as you scale up on the dose, symptoms such as nausea, diarrhea (seldom) more fatigue, feeling more ill, once you have one of these, cut back by 1 to 2 drops for 3 - 5 days, then try scaling up again.. You always want to take just enough MMS, but not so much you have any of these symptoms..

The big concern with MMS is keeping Vitamin C at least 2 hours away from it as it renders MMS useless quickly... I would keep antioxidant supps about 1 hour away from MMS, but natural antioxidants in foods don't bother MMS. I also keep medications 15 minutes away from MMS, they aren't bothered by MMS nor do they bother MMS, I just don't like taking them together. Actually I keep all of my non antioxidant supps 15 minutes from MMS..

I don't know if MMS will affect homeopathics, I think Jodie uses both so maybe she will chime in...

Take care,

Jim

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> Does anyone know if taking homeopathic supplements for lyme cause encysting? I want to start taking MMS and am not sure whether to continue seeing my homeopathic doctor & taking the supplements. I don't feel too good on the supplements & don't want that to interfere with trying to determine which side effects are from them or MMS. Does anyone currently take both & if so, how do you schedule the dosing of both? Thanks.

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I use organic-raw camu camu (vitamin c) and often wondered if it would have the

same effect as ascorbic acid or not? J.L

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for your answers, but I'm confused--you say to keep vit c at least 2 hrs

away from MMS, but only 1 hr for antioxidants. Isn't vit c an antioxidant? How

far apart would I be able to take MMS from a fiber drink that contains flaxseed,

oat bran & acacia? Also, I want to start out very small with mms, like a

tablespoon of a 1 drop dose. I think I read somewhere not to use a metal spoon,

but do you know if I can safely dip a plastic tablespoon into the mms solution,

or is it better if I pour out a tablespoon worth into a plastic spoon? I know

it is a small amount, but I have used mms in the past & had extreme fatigue on

only 1 or 2 drops. Plus I am on a bunch of homeopathics, so I want to go very

slow. Any input would be grealy appreciated.

Susie

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> > Does anyone know if taking homeopathic supplements for lyme cause encysting?

I want to start taking MMS and am not sure whether to continue seeing my

homeopathic doctor & taking the supplements. I don't feel too good on the

supplements & don't want that to interfere with trying to determine which side

effects are from them or MMS. Does anyone currently take both & if so, how do

you schedule the dosing of both? Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

Susie,

Vitamin C is an antioxidant but it's different from other antioxidants in that

vitamin C can render MMS useless-thus if you take vitamin C you should start 2

hrs before starting the MMS regimen. I would take MMS 1 hr. away from the fiber

drink that you take.

If you know you react strongly to MMS how about starting at 1/2 a dose and work

that dose into more times per day before even considering up the drops PER

HOUR!.

To make a half dose activate I drop of mms in a mug. Then add water/or

non-vitamin C or NON-ascorbic acid liquid. Swish.(stir with plastic

spoon)...then dump half out and then add more liquid back in leaving you with a

1/2 dose. If you want to start with 1/4 dose....then divide again using the

instructions above.

I take my MMS with water only....but some have a hard time with the taste.

Also I wouldn't use DMSO while on the homeopathics as it may render them

useless! A plastic spoon is what I use....if needed! I started at a 1/2 dose

because that is what I could tolerate. I then concentrated at adding in more

times per day till I got up to 1/2 dose, 8 X per day and then worked up from

their. Hope that helps. Jodie L.

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> > > Does anyone know if taking homeopathic supplements for lyme cause

encysting? I want to start taking MMS and am not sure whether to continue

seeing my homeopathic doctor & taking the supplements. I don't feel too good on

the supplements & don't want that to interfere with trying to determine which

side effects are from them or MMS. Does anyone currently take both & if so, how

do you schedule the dosing of both? Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

Jodie,

Oh, so vit. c has to wait 2 hrs, but vit e or other antioxidants only wait 1 hr?

It's a good thing that you did answer back because you just mentioned something

that I thought I read somewhere in Humble's book, but then when I went to look

for it, I could never find it again--how to make the 1/2 drop dose. The only

info I ever see anymore even in Humble's new book is to just make a 1 drop dose

& drink 1/2. But I remember reading somewhere that you should make the 1/2 drop

dose & pour out 1/2, fill up to the 1/2 mark again & drink. And that's what

you're saying. But why is there a discrepancy on how to make this 1 drop dose? I

only intended on taking the mms close to bedtime because I take several

homeopathics 3x day & if I take mms I'll be all screwed up. I finish my

homeopathics around 2:30 or 3 pm for the day. I don't use DMSO. I have seen

everyone refer to it. Is it used in addition to MMS? I didn't know you could

activate MMS with water. I thought you needed either the citric acid etc. I

know I have a hard time getting just 1 drop out of my bottles. Sometimes I can

get just 1 drop of MMS, but then when I add the citric acid, 2 drops will slip

out instead of 1. I don't want to dump the whole thing & start over, so I just

use it that way. I hope it's still effective that way. Thanks for your help.

Susie

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encysting? I want to start taking MMS and am not sure whether to continue

seeing my homeopathic doctor & taking the supplements. I don't feel too good on

the supplements & don't want that to interfere with trying to determine which

side effects are from them or MMS. Does anyone currently take both & if so, how

do you schedule the dosing of both? Thanks.

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Susie, You can't activate MMS with water. I use citric acid. After it's

activated I add water and drink. Jodie L.

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encysting? I want to start taking MMS and am not sure whether to continue

seeing my homeopathic doctor & taking the supplements. I don't feel too good on

the supplements & don't want that to interfere with trying to determine which

side effects are from them or MMS. Does anyone currently take both & if so, how

do you schedule the dosing of both? Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

I'm glad I asked that stupid question--I can just imagine trying to take the mms

with only water! Thanks for the clarification.

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encysting? I want to start taking MMS and am not sure whether to continue

seeing my homeopathic doctor & taking the supplements. I don't feel too good on

the supplements & don't want that to interfere with trying to determine which

side effects are from them or MMS. Does anyone currently take both & if so, how

do you schedule the dosing of both? Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

You aren't steppin' on my toes... :-)

Just glad to see you are sharing your knowledge!

Jim

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encysting? I want to start taking MMS and am not sure whether to continue

seeing my homeopathic doctor & taking the supplements. I don't feel too good on

the supplements & don't want that to interfere with trying to determine which

side effects are from them or MMS. Does anyone currently take both & if so, how

do you schedule the dosing of both? Thanks.

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