Austin patient

[Guest guest]

I have only posted once on here but a lot has happened in the last 2 weeks. I finally am taking the advice my brother gave me. He is also hypo and he is now going to an HRT doc. He feels fabulous. No more lethargy, dark circles, feels rested after a nights sleep. I could go on and on.

I was sitting in my living room doing more research and an ad came on TV. It is for the Premier Health and Wellness Center. It is run by an OB/GYN by the name of Screven Edgerton. He is a practicing OB/GYN but also treated many patients with all ranges of hormone disorders including thyroid. He saw the need for an HRT clininc and started one. So, I got on their website and they had a link to email them. I did. I got a phone call the next morning. The intake specialist was very kind and helpful. She set up the first appointment with the nurse practitioner and emailed me all the forms and confirmations of appointment times. The next day I get all the labs done. Then 2 weeks later I see the doc and he'll go over results and get my necessary hormones compounded and to me.

I am hoping to finally get the treatment I deserve. My PCP was hard to read when I told her I was going to try this. She may not like it but it's my body. For her to say that my racing heart, elevated BP and racing pulse were NOT DUE TO SYNTHROID told me that I am making the right decision. She also said it wasn't necessary to not take my synthroid before labs. Taking them will just skew the results. She really doesn't have a clue.

PCP has me taking my BP everyday for 2 weeks. So far it's been normal. I take the reading BEFORE synthroid. I did do a test today and read it before and after (about 15 minutes). The before was perfect the after was 155/86!!!! There is no way this in not the synthroid. Let's not forget the sleeplessness and edginess and irritability.

I feel good about the new doc. The questionnaire alone was amazing. The questions were right on target for everything I've been reading. Keep your fingers crossed.

BTW anyone else out there from the Austin area?

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy!

I am in Austin too and I have seen Dr Edgerton. He is very kind, will take a lot

of time with you. Unfortunately he cold not help me with my hair loss and after

all my hormones came back normal he was at a bit of a loss. My testosterone was

a bit low so he started me on that, but all it did was make my skin break out.

The brand of supplements he sells, Neurogistics, is fabulous- he doesn't really

push them very hard but if he recommends one to you, I would try it- the ones I

have tried have been amazing (for depression and anxiety.)

He is very focused on the results of the Alcat allergy test. I found it kind of

strange and unhelpful. From what I read about the test I'm pretty skeptical of

it, I would love at some point to re-take it and see if I get the same results.

Let me know what you think about your Alcat results- I will be interested to

hear if you find it useful and how your experience with him goes in general.

good luck,

Tierney

>

>

> I have only posted once on here but a lot has happened in the last 2

> weeks. I finally am taking the advice my brother gave me. He is also

> hypo and he is now going to an HRT doc. He feels fabulous. No more

> lethargy, dark circles, feels rested after a nights sleep. I could go on

> and on.

>

> I was sitting in my living room doing more research and an ad came on

> TV. It is for the Premier Health and Wellness Center. It is run by an

> OB/GYN by the name of Screven Edgerton. He is a practicing OB/GYN but

> also treated many patients with all ranges of hormone disorders

> including thyroid. He saw the need for an HRT clininc and started one.

> So, I got on their website and they had a link to email them. I did. I

> got a phone call the next morning. The intake specialist was very kind

> and helpful. She set up the first appointment with the nurse

> practitioner and emailed me all the forms and confirmations of

> appointment times. The next day I get all the labs done. Then 2 weeks

> later I see the doc and he'll go over results and get my necessary

> hormones compounded and to me.

>

> I am hoping to finally get the treatment I deserve. My PCP was hard to

> read when I told her I was going to try this. She may not like it but

> it's my body. For her to say that my racing heart, elevated BP and

> racing pulse were NOT DUE TO SYNTHROID told me that I am making the

> right decision. She also said it wasn't necessary to not take my

> synthroid before labs. Taking them will just skew the results. She

> really doesn't have a clue.

>

> PCP has me taking my BP everyday for 2 weeks. So far it's been normal. I

> take the reading BEFORE synthroid. I did do a test today and read it

> before and after (about 15 minutes). The before was perfect the after

> was 155/86!!!! There is no way this in not the synthroid. Let's not

> forget the sleeplessness and edginess and irritability.

>

> I feel good about the new doc. The questionnaire alone was amazing. The

> questions were right on target for everything I've been reading. Keep

> your fingers crossed. []

>

> BTW anyone else out there from the Austin area?

>

>

>

> Kathy

>

[Guest guest]

Can you share what ( and how much) you are taking for anxiety and depression? What were you taking before that wasn't helping? Glad you found something that works for you!Sue

Hi Kathy!

I am in Austin too and I have seen Dr Edgerton. He is very kind, will take a lot of time with you. Unfortunately he cold not help me with my hair loss and after all my hormones came back normal he was at a bit of a loss. My testosterone was a bit low so he started me on that, but all it did was make my skin break out.

The brand of supplements he sells, Neurogistics, is fabulous- he doesn't really push them very hard but if he recommends one to you, I would try it- the ones I have tried have been amazing (for depression and anxiety.)

He is very focused on the results of the Alcat allergy test. I found it kind of strange and unhelpful. From what I read about the test I'm pretty skeptical of it, I would love at some point to re-take it and see if I get the same results.

Let me know what you think about your Alcat results- I will be interested to hear if you find it useful and how your experience with him goes in general.

good luck,

Tierney

>

>

> I have only posted once on here but a lot has happened in the last 2

> weeks. I finally am taking the advice my brother gave me. He is also

> hypo and he is now going to an HRT doc. He feels fabulous. No more

> lethargy, dark circles, feels rested after a nights sleep. I could go on

> and on.

>

> I was sitting in my living room doing more research and an ad came on

> TV. It is for the Premier Health and Wellness Center. It is run by an

> OB/GYN by the name of Screven Edgerton. He is a practicing OB/GYN but

> also treated many patients with all ranges of hormone disorders

> including thyroid. He saw the need for an HRT clininc and started one.

> So, I got on their website and they had a link to email them. I did. I

> got a phone call the next morning. The intake specialist was very kind

> and helpful. She set up the first appointment with the nurse

> practitioner and emailed me all the forms and confirmations of

> appointment times. The next day I get all the labs done. Then 2 weeks

> later I see the doc and he'll go over results and get my necessary

> hormones compounded and to me.

>

> I am hoping to finally get the treatment I deserve. My PCP was hard to

> read when I told her I was going to try this. She may not like it but

> it's my body. For her to say that my racing heart, elevated BP and

> racing pulse were NOT DUE TO SYNTHROID told me that I am making the

> right decision. She also said it wasn't necessary to not take my

> synthroid before labs. Taking them will just skew the results. She

> really doesn't have a clue.

>

> PCP has me taking my BP everyday for 2 weeks. So far it's been normal. I

> take the reading BEFORE synthroid. I did do a test today and read it

> before and after (about 15 minutes). The before was perfect the after

> was 155/86!!!! There is no way this in not the synthroid. Let's not

> forget the sleeplessness and edginess and irritability.

>

> I feel good about the new doc. The questionnaire alone was amazing. The

> questions were right on target for everything I've been reading. Keep

> your fingers crossed. []

>

> BTW anyone else out there from the Austin area?

>

>

>

> Kathy

>

[Guest guest]

Tierney,

That is encouraging. I was hoping that once I got my thyroid meds figured out, it would help with the depression and anxiety. He tested my level of Serotonin and it is at the very bottom of the range, almost non-existant! I tried a compounded Serotonin but it did not help, so I have been on a low dose of prozac. It does seem to help a bit.

Just to clarify, can you take the NTB2 along with an SSRI? Do you know how I would go about getting the supplements, perhaps online?

Thanks so much,

Sue

Re: Austin patient

Hi Sue,

let's see, kind of a long story, but at the time I started the Neurogistics that Dr

E sells I was only taking a small amount of Zoloft. I was having terrible anxiety, insomnia, suicidal thoughts, OCD... I was a total basket case. He gave me a supplement called NTB2 which balances all the nuerotransmitters, plus l-theanine which is a relaxing amino acid. I had tried l-theanine before from various brands and this was the only one that ever seemed to do anything! The NTB2 helped the depression a lot but I had to cut down the dose because it made the insomnia worse (probably due to the tyrosine.)

At that point I was better but not well enough, so I found my current PCP who was willing to work with whatever. He has me on Lexapro and Xanax, it's been year, I am functional person again! When I get breakthrough depression on the Lexapro I still take the NTB2. If I get anxiety during the day I take the l-theanine because I can't take the Xanax during the day. But I haven't needed to take l-theanine for quite some time now. The NTB2 seems to give me some ener

gy and good mental outlook, and, like I said, will help any breakthrough depression in a couple of days. My husband likes it too and says it helps him focus.

Overall I have to say Lexapro/Xanax was the winning combo for me but someone with less severe depression might only need the NTB2 or something similar.

At some point I hope I can wean off the Lexapro and I expect I will see Dr E again at that point to help me and guide me with the proper doses of amino acids. Perhaps if I had not let it get so bad I could have started out on that instead of SSRIs but right now I am afraid to change anything.

I have also started hypnosis tapes, I find they help so much with my mental state.

cheers,

Tierney

> > >

> > >

> > > I have only posted once on here but a lot has happened in the last 2

> > > weeks. I finally am taking the advice my brother gave me. He is also

> > > hypo and he is now going to an HRT doc. He feels fabulous. No more

> > > lethargy, dark circles, feels rested after a nights sleep. I could go on

> > > and on.

> > >

> > > I was sitting in my living room doing more research and a

n ad came on

> > > TV. It is for the Premier Health and Wellness Center. It is run by an

> > > OB/GYN by the name of Screven Edgerton. He is a practicing OB/GYN but

> > > also treated many patients with all ranges of hormone disorders

> > > including thyroid. He saw the need for an HRT clininc and started one.

> > > So, I got on their website and they had a link to email them. I did. I

> > > got a phone call the next morning. The intake specialist was very kind

> > > and helpful. She set up the first appointment with the nurse

> > > practitioner and emailed me all the forms and confirmations of

> > > appointment times. The next day I get all the labs done. Then 2 weeks

> > > later I see the doc and he'll go over results and get my necessary

> > > hormones compounded and to me.

> > >

> > > I am hoping to finally get the t

reatment I deserve. My PCP was hard to

> > > read when I told her I was going to try this. She may not like it but

> > > it's my body. For her to say that my racing heart, elevated BP and

> > > racing pulse were NOT DUE TO SYNTHROID told me that I am making the

> > > right decision. She also said it wasn't necessary to not take my

> > > synthroid before labs. Taking them will just skew the results. She

> > > really doesn't have a clue.

> > >

> > > PCP has me taking my BP everyday for 2 weeks. So far it's been normal. I

> > > take the reading BEFORE synthroid. I did do a test today and read it

> > > before and after (about 15 minutes). The before was perfect the after

> > > was 155/86!!!! There is no way this in not the synthroid. Let's not

> > > forget the sleeplessness and edginess and irritability.

> > >

> > > I feel good about the new doc. The questionnaire alone was amazing. The

> > > questions were right on target for everything I've been reading. Keep

> > > your fingers crossed. []

> > >

> > > BTW anyone else out there from the Austin area?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Kathy

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It doesn't really help low bp.  I have low bp that causes me to faint (vasovagal syncope) and when my bp gets too low, I get anxious, fatigue, etc....really the same symptoms as pvc's.  I am learning to distinguish between the two and taking my bp at home a lot.

Yes, you are right, that is the sister of Lexapro. 

PVC’s are helped with Klonapin and it helps Low BP?I did not know that.

 

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Cauley

Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 2:54 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: Austin patient

   I have been on Celexa for 8 months now. It has actually helped me a lot. I believe it is a sister drug of lexapro? Not sure if it works now because my hypo is in a better place. Anti-deps didn't work in the past. My anxiety was completely gone until I started having pvc's. I take small doses of klonopin to help with the pvc's and low blood pressure.

Sent from my iPhone

Glad to hear this about Lexapro!I will be sitting down with a psychiatrist that I mentioned in my last email,

And he believes in Lexapro for haulting the devastating anxiety…And then eventually going off of it.

Thanks for this email…its encouraging to see you have had good luck with Lexapro…!!!I knew I was sitting in front of a very good man! 

He came so highly recommended that I thought it was overblown…but it wasn’t…Thank you T…

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Tierney Wayne

Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 2:01 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Austin patient

   Hi Sue,let's see, kind of a long story, but at the time I started the Neurogistics that Dr E sells I was only taking a small amount of Zoloft. I was having terrible anxiety, insomnia, suicidal thoughts, OCD... I was a total basket case. He gave me a supplement called NTB2 which balances all the nuerotransmitters, plus l-theanine which is a relaxing amino acid. I had tried l-theanine before from various brands and this was the only one that ever seemed to do anything! The NTB2 helped the depression a lot but I had to cut down the dose because it made the insomnia worse (probably due to the tyrosine.)

At that point I was better but not well enough, so I found my current PCP who was willing to work with whatever. He has me on Lexapro and Xanax, it's been year, I am functional person again! When I get breakthrough depression on the Lexapro I still take the NTB2. If I get anxiety during the day I take the l-theanine because I can't take the Xanax during the day. But I haven't needed to take l-theanine for quite some time now. The NTB2 seems to give me some energy and good mental outlook, and, like I said, will help any breakthrough depression in a couple of days. My husband likes it too and says it helps him focus.

Overall I have to say Lexapro/Xanax was the winning combo for me but someone with less severe depression might only need the NTB2 or something similar.At some point I hope I can wean off the Lexapro and I expect I will see Dr E again at that point to help me and guide me with the proper doses of amino acids. Perhaps if I had not let it get so bad I could have started out on that instead of SSRIs but right now I am afraid to change anything.

I have also started hypnosis tapes, I find they help so much with my mental state.cheers,Tierney> > >> > >

> > > I have only posted once on here but a lot has happened in the last 2> > > weeks. I finally am taking the advice my brother gave me. He is also> > > hypo and he is now going to an HRT doc. He feels fabulous. No more

> > > lethargy, dark circles, feels rested after a nights sleep. I could go on> > > and on.> > > > > > I was sitting in my living room doing more research and an ad came on

> > > TV. It is for the Premier Health and Wellness Center. It is run by an> > > OB/GYN by the name of Screven Edgerton. He is a practicing OB/GYN but> > > also treated many patients with all ranges of hormone disorders

> > > including thyroid. He saw the need for an HRT clininc and started one.> > > So, I got on their website and they had a link to email them. I did. I> > > got a phone call the next morning. The intake specialist was very kind

> > > and helpful. She set up the first appointment with the nurse> > > practitioner and emailed me all the forms and confirmations of> > > appointment times. The next day I get all the labs done. Then 2 weeks

> > > later I see the doc and he'll go over results and get my necessary> > > hormones compounded and to me.> > > > > > I am hoping to finally get the treatment I deserve. My PCP was hard to

> > > read when I told her I was going to try this. She may not like it but> > > it's my body. For her to say that my racing heart, elevated BP and> > > racing pulse were NOT DUE TO SYNTHROID told me that I am making the

> > > right decision. She also said it wasn't necessary to not take my> > > synthroid before labs. Taking them will just skew the results. She> > > really doesn't have a clue.

> > > > > > PCP has me taking my BP everyday for 2 weeks. So far it's been normal. I> > > take the reading BEFORE synthroid. I did do a test today and read it> > > before and after (about 15 minutes). The before was perfect the after

> > > was 155/86!!!! There is no way this in not the synthroid. Let's not> > > forget the sleeplessness and edginess and irritability.> > > > > > I feel good about the new doc. The questionnaire alone was amazing. The

> > > questions were right on target for everything I've been reading. Keep> > > your fingers crossed. []> > > > > > BTW anyone else out there from the Austin area?

> > > > > > > > > > > > Kathy> > >> > > >>

-- CauleyCell

[Guest guest]

That is smart …I will remember your words about this subject. Thank you…I really appreciate what “clicks” when I read these fantastic women talk about their health issues.“The teacher appears when student ready to learn!” From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of CauleySent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:13 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: Austin patient It doesn't really help low bp. I have low bp that causes me to faint (vasovagal syncope) and when my bp gets too low, I get anxious, fatigue, etc....really the same symptoms as pvc's. I am learning to distinguish between the two and taking my bp at home a lot. Yes, you are right, that is the sister of Lexapro. PVC’s are helped with Klonapin and it helps Low BP?I did not know that. From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of CauleySent: Monday, August 27, 2012 2:54 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: Austin patient I have been on Celexa for 8 months now. It has actually helped me a lot. I believe it is a sister drug of lexapro? Not sure if it works now because my hypo is in a better place. Anti-deps didn't work in the past. My anxiety was completely gone until I started having pvc's. I take small doses of klonopin to help with the pvc's and low blood pressure.Sent from my iPhoneGlad to hear this about Lexapro!I will be sitting down with a psychiatrist that I mentioned in my last email,And he believes in Lexapro for haulting the devastating anxiety…And then eventually going off of it.Thanks for this email…its encouraging to see you have had good luck with Lexapro…!!!I knew I was sitting in front of a very good man! He came so highly recommended that I thought it was overblown…but it wasn’t…Thank you T…From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Tierney WayneSent: Monday, August 27, 2012 2:01 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Austin patient Hi Sue,let's see, kind of a long story, but at the time I started the Neurogistics that Dr E sells I was only taking a small amount of Zoloft. I was having terrible anxiety, insomnia, suicidal thoughts, OCD... I was a total basket case. He gave me a supplement called NTB2 which balances all the nuerotransmitters, plus l-theanine which is a relaxing amino acid. I had tried l-theanine before from various brands and this was the only one that ever seemed to do anything! The NTB2 helped the depression a lot but I had to cut down the dose because it made the insomnia worse (probably due to the tyrosine.)At that point I was better but not well enough, so I found my current PCP who was willing to work with whatever. He has me on Lexapro and Xanax, it's been year, I am functional person again! When I get breakthrough depression on the Lexapro I still take the NTB2. If I get anxiety during the day I take the l-theanine because I can't take the Xanax during the day. But I haven't needed to take l-theanine for quite some time now. The NTB2 seems to give me some energy and good mental outlook, and, like I said, will help any breakthrough depression in a couple of days. My husband likes it too and says it helps him focus.Overall I have to say Lexapro/Xanax was the winning combo for me but someone with less severe depression might only need the NTB2 or something similar.At some point I hope I can wean off the Lexapro and I expect I will see Dr E again at that point to help me and guide me with the proper doses of amino acids. Perhaps if I had not let it get so bad I could have started out on that instead of SSRIs but right now I am afraid to change anything.I have also started hypnosis tapes, I find they help so much with my mental state.cheers,Tierney> > >> > > > > > I have only posted once on here but a lot has happened in the last 2> > > weeks. I finally am taking the advice my brother gave me. He is also> > > hypo and he is now going to an HRT doc. He feels fabulous. No more> > > lethargy, dark circles, feels rested after a nights sleep. I could go on> > > and on.> > > > > > I was sitting in my living room doing more research and an ad came on> > > TV. It is for the Premier Health and Wellness Center. It is run by an> > > OB/GYN by the name of Screven Edgerton. He is a practicing OB/GYN but> > > also treated many patients with all ranges of hormone disorders> > > including thyroid. He saw the need for an HRT clininc and started one.> > > So, I got on their website and they had a link to email them. I did. I> > > got a phone call the next morning. The intake specialist was very kind> > > and helpful. She set up the first appointment with the nurse> > > practitioner and emailed me all the forms and confirmations of> > > appointment times. The next day I get all the labs done. Then 2 weeks> > > later I see the doc and he'll go over results and get my necessary> > > hormones compounded and to me.> > > > > > I am hoping to finally get the treatment I deserve. My PCP was hard to> > > read when I told her I was going to try this. She may not like it but> > > it's my body. For her to say that my racing heart, elevated BP and> > > racing pulse were NOT DUE TO SYNTHROID told me that I am making the> > > right decision. She also said it wasn't necessary to not take my> > > synthroid before labs. Taking them will just skew the results. She> > > really doesn't have a clue.> > > > > > PCP has me taking my BP everyday for 2 weeks. So far it's been normal. I> > > take the reading BEFORE synthroid. I did do a test today and read it> > > before and after (about 15 minutes). The before was perfect the after> > > was 155/86!!!! There is no way this in not the synthroid. Let's not> > > forget the sleeplessness and edginess and irritability.> > > > > > I feel good about the new doc. The questionnaire alone was amazing. The> > > questions were right on target for everything I've been reading. Keep> > > your fingers crossed. []> > > > > > BTW anyone else out there from the Austin area?> > > > > > > > > > > > Kathy> > >> > > >> -- CauleyCell

[Guest guest]

Hi kathy,

Im in the Austin area, Leander. My PCP, Dr Ehrin has retired from practice recently and I need to find a new one. I had already tried everyone in Austin before and never was treated correctly. Does the new Doc take Insurance?

PAMELA

[Guest guest]

Dr. Spurlock does not take any insurance, but he will send you to a lab that is in network for your insurance, Quest, Labcorp, or CPL.

He charges $295 for one hour or $195 for one-half hour.

>> Hi kathy,> Im in the Austin area, Leander. My PCP, Dr Ehrin has retired from practice recently and I need to find a new one. I had already tried everyone in Austin before and never was treated correctly. Does the new Doc take Insurance?> > > PAMELA>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Spurlock does not take any insurance, but he will send you to a lab that is in network for your insurance, Quest, Labcorp, or CPL.

He charges $295 for one hour or $195 for one-half hour.The pricing has changed. The first two appointments are considered complex and are $295. Subsequent appointments, as long as they are NOT complex, are $195.

Susie

[Guest guest]

T, I just got back from my psych Dr. office,And I know I did the right thing.No more T3 at this time.He has nothing against thyroid forThose that need it,But he is as sure as I am that I don’t need it With the fact that this anxiety has becomeSo much worse on T3 and that it has stole my sleepFor months. Started Lexapro today, 5mg to start with,Even though he wanted to do 10mg,He thought it best with all that former T3 I had in my body, to start low with Lexapro…And I can see him in four weeks to go up. Thanks so much, you truly helped meSee what was right in front of me. From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Tierney WayneSent: Monday, August 27, 2012 11:44 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Austin patient ,yes, I spent years fighting the idea that I needed SSRIs and hoping I could just fiddle with my thyroid enough to solve all my problems, but it didn't work out that way, unfortunately. I know some people resolve their anxiety and depression with proper doses of thyroid meds, but that wasn't the case for me. Dr. Edgerton assured me that I could take the NTB2 with the Lexapro. I was very worried about " serotonin syndrome " which can happen when you take 5-HTP with an SSRI, but he said the dose of 5-HTP just wasn't high enough. This place seems to sell NTB2:http://shop.naturalpsychsolutions.com/Neurogistics-NTB-2-Neurogistics-NTB-2.htmAlthough it's more expensive than what Dr E sells it for (but he won't sell it unless you are a patient.)I just use it for a back-up now, so if you are already thinking of trying Lexapro you might want to wait and see how you do with that. When I wean off the Lexapro, someday, (when my kids are older and more independent!) I plan to use NTB2 to help me.I hope you find something that works for you. I know what you are going through and I know it can feel like hell but you will come through it even stronger.peace,tierney>> > Tierney,> > > That is encouraging. I was hoping that once I got my thyroid meds figured out, it would help with the depression and anxiety. He tested my level of Serotonin and it is at the very bottom of the range, almost non-existant! I tried a compounded Serotonin but it did not help, so I have been on a low dose of prozac. It does seem to help a bit.> Just to clarify, can you take the NTB2 along with an SSRI? Do you know how I would go about getting the supplements, perhaps online?> Thanks so much,> Sue

[Guest guest]

Pamela - I don't know if Dr. Edgerton doesn't take insurance. My particular insurance will not pay for me to go to him. I have a PPO that requires the doc to be in their network. I was told by his intake staff that the labs will be covered and my insurance actually has a compounding pharmacy so they could go through my insurance. He charges $500 for the initial visit and then $70/visit after that. The biggest expense is at the beginning. My brother is hypo also and he quit his endo to go to an OB/GYN in San (he lives in Fair Oaks Ranch outside of Boerne). She no longer does the OB/GYN practice. She only does the HRT practice. He is feeling the best he's felt in a long time. I did find a couple of docs who will prescribe Armour Thyroid. I went to Walgreens and HEB pharmacies to ask who prescribes it. I figure if they'll prescribe it they will be willing to do other natural meds too. I was also told about a doctor at Buttercup medical group. They are at the entrance to Buttercup Subdivision. Her name is Ann Hathcock at 200 Buttercup Blvd. 249-1400. Pam Warren on Cypress Creek is also known to

prescribe Armour. I know her personally and she is very nice. Our kids went to school together. I don't know professionally if she is very flexible but if she was willing to prescribe Armour she can probably be persueded to do what you want. You can always interview and get a feel for her (and any others). Pam is at: 1909 Cypress Creek Rd Cedar Park, TX 78613 (512)250-9600 One other doctor who

prescribes Armour is Ron Manzanero. His number is 343-6223.He is at: 3500 Oakmont Boulevard Austin, TX 78731. He's down off 35th street in Austin. I found a write up about him on about.com. It was written by Shomon who has written books on thyroid diseases.

The link is : http://thyroid.about.com/od/hypothyroidismhashimotos/a/The-Optimal-Treatment-For-Hypothyroidism-Ron-Manzanero-Md_2.htm I hope this gives you a start.

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Have any of those with depression, had lab test to see if you have any MTHFR mutations? Reason I ask is mutation of the MTHFR are common with depression. Only reason I know about it is my grandson with autism has one of the mutations thus I have researched it greatly. This mutation causes the pathway for formation of several neurotransmitters not to function efficiently. I have hypothyroidism, on levothyroxin 110 mcg, but feel I would be better on Armour. I fired my really stupid endo doc >8 yrs ago. Now get my RX

from my IM doc who only goes by the labs, not symptoms too. Does anyone know of a good doctor in the Houston area who will listen to the patient's symptoms and not just labs? Joyce<*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/join (Yahoo! ID required)<*> To change settings via email: Texas_Thyroid_Groups-digest Texas_Thyroid_Groups-fullfeatured <*>

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Thanks Kathy for the reply and info. I live on Social Security and the $ amounts mentioned are not within my reach at this time. I will check out the 2 leads you have listed.

PAMELA

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Yes, MTHFR mutations are very common - 30% of the population is heterozygous for the mutation.  A small percentage are homozygous - those are the people that have heart attacks in their 40s.  The genetic defect can cause low levels of the enzymes necessary to metabolize b12, b6 and folate in the methylation cycle (which is important for detox and energy).   Oral B12 usually has little impact (again since there is low levels of the enzymes in the gut necessary to process the b12).   You need either sublingual or shots/transdermal b12.  I do the latter and it works very well.  I could not function without this.  Blood tests are not always accurate in detecting the vitamin deficiencies.  You can have normal levels (or even high levels) in the blood, but your body can't use it.  The docs need to test for the defect.  They will often measure homocysteine which is a sign you are not metabolizing or getting enough B12/b6/folate.  Although, some are unwilling to as they are concerned it could cause problems in getting insurance later.

I don't know of any docs in the Houston area - you should look in the Armour friendly list in the group and make sure to review the doctor write-ups in the database.http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/files/Doctors/  (there's a file listing Armour docs and there are some in the Houston area)

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/database  (You should write-up the Endo you fired to save others the grief).

B.

 

Have any of those with depression,  had lab test to see if you have any MTHFR mutations?  Reason I ask is mutation of the MTHFR are common with depression.  Only reason I know about it is my grandson with autism has one of the mutations thus I have researched it greatly.  This mutation causes the pathway for formation of several neurotransmitters not to function efficiently. 

 I have hypothyroidism, on levothyroxin 110 mcg, but feel I would be better on Armour.  I fired my really stupid endo doc >8 yrs ago.  Now get my RX

from my IM doc who only goes by the labs, not symptoms too.  Does anyone know of a good doctor in the Houston area who will listen to the patient's symptoms and not just labs? 

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I was confused by Dr Edgenton's billing practice. I know I paid about $300 up

front (seems this has gone up) and Blue Cross covered all the lab tests for me

except the saliva cortisol test. I was told to expect some charge (I think $60)

for subsequent visits but they nicely never charged me. I saw on my Blue Cross

homepage that they submitted a $600 claim for each visit, though. I think they

deal with each insurance company differently, with some knowledge of what they

can expect to get from each one. I'm not sure though so don't quote me on that.

Tierney

PS Manzanero's NP, ine, is awful (in my experience), so don't get roped into

seeing her if Manzanero isn't taking new patients.

>

> Pamela -

>  

> I don't know if Dr. Edgerton doesn't take insurance.  My particular

insurance will not pay for me to go to him. I have a PPO that requires the doc

to be in their network. I was told by his intake staff that the labs will be

covered and my insurance actually has a compounding pharmacy so they could go

through my insurance. He charges $500 for the initial visit and then $70/visit

after that. The biggest expense is at the beginning.

> My brother is hypo also and he quit his endo to go to an OB/GYN in San

(he lives in Fair Oaks Ranch outside of Boerne). She no longer does the OB/GYN

practice. She only does the HRT practice. He is feeling the best he's felt in a

long time.

> I did find a couple of docs who will prescribe Armour Thyroid. I went to

Walgreens and HEB pharmacies to ask who prescribes it. I figure if they'll

prescribe it they will be willing to do other natural meds too. I was also told

about a doctor at Buttercup medical group. They are at the entrance to Buttercup

Subdivision. Her name is Ann Hathcock at 200 Buttercup Blvd. 249-1400. Pam

Warren on Cypress Creek is also known to prescribe Armour. I know her personally

and she is very nice. Our kids went to school together. I don't know

professionally if she is very flexible but if she was willing to prescribe

Armour she can probably be persueded to do what you want. You can always

interview and get a feel for her (and any others). Pam is at: 

>  

> 1909 Cypress Creek Rd

> Cedar Park, TX 78613

> (512)250-9600

>  

> One other doctor who prescribes Armour is Ron Manzanero. His number is

343-6223.He is at:

>  

> 3500 Oakmont Boulevard Austin, TX 78731. He's down off 35th street in Austin.

>  

> I found a write up about him on about.com. It was written by Shomon who

has written books on thyroid diseases. The link is :

http://thyroid.about.com/od/hypothyroidismhashimotos/a/The-Optimal-Treatment-For\

-Hypothyroidism-Ron-Manzanero-Md_2.htm

>  

> I hope this gives you a start.

>

>

> Kathy

>  

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How often do you get The b12 shots Ellis Ecke, LPC, LCDCwww.thetraumaqueen.com

Yes, MTHFR mutations are very common - 30% of the population is heterozygous for the mutation. A small percentage are homozygous - those are the people that have heart attacks in their 40s. The genetic defect can cause low levels of the enzymes necessary to metabolize b12, b6 and folate in the methylation cycle (which is important for detox and energy). Oral B12 usually has little impact (again since there is low levels of the enzymes in the gut necessary to process the b12). You need either sublingual or shots/transdermal b12. I do the latter and it works very well. I could not function without this. Blood tests are not always accurate in detecting the vitamin deficiencies. You can have normal levels (or even high levels) in the blood, but your body can't use it. The docs need to test for the defect. They will often measure homocysteine which is a sign you are not metabolizing or getting enough B12/b6/folate. Although, some are unwilling to as they are concerned it could cause problems in getting insurance later.

I don't know of any docs in the Houston area - you should look in the Armour friendly list in the group and make sure to review the doctor write-ups in the database.http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/files/Doctors/ (there's a file listing Armour docs and there are some in the Houston area)

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/database (You should write-up the Endo you fired to save others the grief).

B.

Have any of those with depression, had lab test to see if you have any MTHFR mutations? Reason I ask is mutation of the MTHFR are common with depression. Only reason I know about it is my grandson with autism has one of the mutations thus I have researched it greatly. This mutation causes the pathway for formation of several neurotransmitters not to function efficiently.

I have hypothyroidism, on levothyroxin 110 mcg, but feel I would be better on Armour. I fired my really stupid endo doc >8 yrs ago. Now get my RX

from my IM doc who only goes by the labs, not symptoms too. Does anyone know of a good doctor in the Houston area who will listen to the patient's symptoms and not just labs?

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I actually do the transdermal (and not the shots - I should have been more clear about that).  There are various transdermal options, including patches and various sprays.  I make my own but don't recommend that unless you first discuss with your doctor.   I still use it quite regularly ( at least every few days). If I forget for a few days, I notice my energy drops. Typically with the shots, you start out at one/day for a month or so and then you go to once a week and then often to once a month. 

The interesting thing is that B12 shots used to be used very commonly for any patients that complained of fatigue, malaise, etc.  B.

 

How often do you get The b12 shots Ellis Ecke, LPC, LCDCwww.thetraumaqueen.com

Yes, MTHFR mutations are very common - 30% of the population is heterozygous for the mutation.  A small percentage are homozygous - those are the people that have heart attacks in their 40s.  The genetic defect can cause low levels of the enzymes necessary to metabolize b12, b6 and folate in the methylation cycle (which is important for detox and energy).   Oral B12 usually has little impact (again since there is low levels of the enzymes in the gut necessary to process the b12).   You need either sublingual or shots/transdermal b12.  I do the latter and it works very well.  I could not function without this.  Blood tests are not always accurate in detecting the vitamin deficiencies.  You can have normal levels (or even high levels) in the blood, but your body can't use it.  The docs need to test for the defect.  They will often measure homocysteine which is a sign you are not metabolizing or getting enough B12/b6/folate.  Although, some are unwilling to as they are concerned it could cause problems in getting insurance later.

I don't know of any docs in the Houston area - you should look in the Armour friendly list in the group and make sure to review the doctor write-ups in the database.http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/files/Doctors/  (there's a file listing Armour docs and there are some in the Houston area)

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/database  (You should write-up the Endo you fired to save others the grief).

B.

 

Have any of those with depression,  had lab test to see if you have any MTHFR mutations?  Reason I ask is mutation of the MTHFR are common with depression.  Only reason I know about it is my grandson with autism has one of the mutations thus I have researched it greatly.  This mutation causes the pathway for formation of several neurotransmitters not to function efficiently. 

 I have hypothyroidism, on levothyroxin 110 mcg, but feel I would be better on Armour.  I fired my really stupid endo doc >8 yrs ago.  Now get my RX

from my IM doc who only goes by the labs, not symptoms too.  Does anyone know of a good doctor in the Houston area who will listen to the patient's symptoms and not just labs? 

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please tell me what MTHFR mutations means. is mthfr bereaved Thanks

To: "Texas_Thyroid_Groups " <Texas_Thyroid_Groups >Sent: Wed, August 29, 2012 10:58:55 AMSubject: Re: Re: Austin patient

How often do you get The b12 shots Ellis Ecke, LPC, LCDC www.thetraumaqueen.com

Yes, MTHFR mutations are very common - 30% of the population is heterozygous for the mutation. A small percentage are homozygous - those are the people that have heart attacks in their 40s. The genetic defect can cause low levels of the enzymes necessary to metabolize b12, b6 and folate in the methylation cycle (which is important for detox and energy). Oral B12 usually has little impact (again since there is low levels of the enzymes in the gut necessary to process the b12). You need either sublingual or shots/transdermal b12. I do the latter and it works very well. I could not function without this. Blood tests are not always accurate in detecting the vitamin deficiencies. You can have normal levels (or even high levels) in the blood, but your body can't use it. The docs need to test for the defect. They will often measure homocysteine

which is a sign you are not metabolizing or getting enough B12/b6/folate. Although, some are unwilling to as they are concerned it could cause problems in getting insurance later. I don't know of any docs in the Houston area - you should look in the Armour friendly list in the group and make sure to review the doctor write-ups in the database.http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/files/Doctors/ (there's a file listing Armour docs and there are some in the Houston area)http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/database (You should write-up the Endo you fired to save others the grief). B.

Have any of those with depression, had lab test to see if you have any MTHFR mutations? Reason I ask is mutation of the MTHFR are common with depression. Only reason I know about it is my grandson with autism has one of the mutations thus I have researched it greatly. This mutation causes the pathway for formation of several neurotransmitters not to function efficiently.

I have hypothyroidism, on levothyroxin 110 mcg, but feel I would be better on Armour. I fired my really stupid endo doc >8 yrs ago. Now get my RX from my IM doc who only goes by the labs, not symptoms too. Does anyone know of a good doctor in the Houston area who will listen to the patient's symptoms and not just labs?

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I have them maybe once a Month, but wonder if I should do it more often Ellis Ecke, LPC, LCDCwww.thetraumaqueen.com

I actually do the transdermal (and not the shots - I should have been more clear about that). There are various transdermal options, including patches and various sprays. I make my own but don't recommend that unless you first discuss with your doctor. I still use it quite regularly ( at least every few days). If I forget for a few days, I notice my energy drops. Typically with the shots, you start out at one/day for a month or so and then you go to once a week and then often to once a month.

The interesting thing is that B12 shots used to be used very commonly for any patients that complained of fatigue, malaise, etc. B.

How often do you get The b12 shots Ellis Ecke, LPC, LCDCwww.thetraumaqueen.com

Yes, MTHFR mutations are very common - 30% of the population is heterozygous for the mutation. A small percentage are homozygous - those are the people that have heart attacks in their 40s. The genetic defect can cause low levels of the enzymes necessary to metabolize b12, b6 and folate in the methylation cycle (which is important for detox and energy). Oral B12 usually has little impact (again since there is low levels of the enzymes in the gut necessary to process the b12). You need either sublingual or shots/transdermal b12. I do the latter and it works very well. I could not function without this. Blood tests are not always accurate in detecting the vitamin deficiencies. You can have normal levels (or even high levels) in the blood, but your body can't use it. The docs need to test for the defect. They will often measure homocysteine which is a sign you are not metabolizing or getting enough B12/b6/folate. Although, some are unwilling to as they are concerned it could cause problems in getting insurance later.

I don't know of any docs in the Houston area - you should look in the Armour friendly list in the group and make sure to review the doctor write-ups in the database.http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/files/Doctors/ (there's a file listing Armour docs and there are some in the Houston area)

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/database (You should write-up the Endo you fired to save others the grief).

B.

Have any of those with depression, had lab test to see if you have any MTHFR mutations? Reason I ask is mutation of the MTHFR are common with depression. Only reason I know about it is my grandson with autism has one of the mutations thus I have researched it greatly. This mutation causes the pathway for formation of several neurotransmitters not to function efficiently.

I have hypothyroidism, on levothyroxin 110 mcg, but feel I would be better on Armour. I fired my really stupid endo doc >8 yrs ago. Now get my RX

from my IM doc who only goes by the labs, not symptoms too. Does anyone know of a good doctor in the Houston area who will listen to the patient's symptoms and not just labs?

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B12 is water soluble so your body will excrete what it doesn't use or need, so you can't really take too much.  My doc did recommend doing once a day for at least a month and then the once a week, etc.  Your body should store some in your liver, but likely due to my being so toxic, I probably don't store much, which is why I need it much more frequently. 

 

I have them maybe once a Month, but wonder if I should do it more often Ellis Ecke, LPC, LCDCwww.thetraumaqueen.com

I actually do the transdermal (and not the shots - I should have been more clear about that).  There are various transdermal options, including patches and various sprays.  I make my own but don't recommend that unless you first discuss with your doctor.   I still use it quite regularly ( at least every few days). If I forget for a few days, I notice my energy drops. Typically with the shots, you start out at one/day for a month or so and then you go to once a week and then often to once a month. 

The interesting thing is that B12 shots used to be used very commonly for any patients that complained of fatigue, malaise, etc.  B.

 

How often do you get The b12 shots Ellis Ecke, LPC, LCDCwww.thetraumaqueen.com

Yes, MTHFR mutations are very common - 30% of the population is heterozygous for the mutation.  A small percentage are homozygous - those are the people that have heart attacks in their 40s.  The genetic defect can cause low levels of the enzymes necessary to metabolize b12, b6 and folate in the methylation cycle (which is important for detox and energy).   Oral B12 usually has little impact (again since there is low levels of the enzymes in the gut necessary to process the b12).   You need either sublingual or shots/transdermal b12.  I do the latter and it works very well.  I could not function without this.  Blood tests are not always accurate in detecting the vitamin deficiencies.  You can have normal levels (or even high levels) in the blood, but your body can't use it.  The docs need to test for the defect.  They will often measure homocysteine which is a sign you are not metabolizing or getting enough B12/b6/folate.  Although, some are unwilling to as they are concerned it could cause problems in getting insurance later.

I don't know of any docs in the Houston area - you should look in the Armour friendly list in the group and make sure to review the doctor write-ups in the database.http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/files/Doctors/  (there's a file listing Armour docs and there are some in the Houston area)

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/database  (You should write-up the Endo you fired to save others the grief).

B.

 

Have any of those with depression,  had lab test to see if you have any MTHFR mutations?  Reason I ask is mutation of the MTHFR are common with depression.  Only reason I know about it is my grandson with autism has one of the mutations thus I have researched it greatly.  This mutation causes the pathway for formation of several neurotransmitters not to function efficiently. 

 I have hypothyroidism, on levothyroxin 110 mcg, but feel I would be better on Armour.  I fired my really stupid endo doc >8 yrs ago.  Now get my RX

from my IM doc who only goes by the labs, not symptoms too.  Does anyone know of a good doctor in the Houston area who will listen to the patient's symptoms and not just labs? 

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I had a hard time finding a good webpage that described this well.  I found this doctor's webpage that describes it fairly decently:http://healingthewholechild.com/2012/03/01/mthfr-mutations/

Here's the wikipedia article that explains it from a scientific/medical perspective:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylenetetrahydrofolate_reductase

And, there are tons of articles in the medical research in pubmed (almost 5000) and the correlation of the defects with other diseases and health problems including heart disease and autoimmune diseases.  There are a handful specific to hypothyroidism.  Issues with the methylation cycle have been associated CFS and FM.  Here's a discussion on Dr. Myhill's site:

http://drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/CFS_-_The_Methylation_Cycle  (Note: he doesn't discuss the genetic defects but rather how you can test how the methylation cycle is working as is). 

B.

 

please tell me what MTHFR mutations means.  is mthfr bereaved Thanks

To: " Texas_Thyroid_Groups " <Texas_Thyroid_Groups >

Sent: Wed, August 29, 2012 10:58:55 AMSubject: Re: Re: Austin patient

 

How often do you get The b12 shots Ellis Ecke, LPC, LCDC www.thetraumaqueen.com

Yes, MTHFR mutations are very common - 30% of the population is heterozygous for the mutation.  A small percentage are homozygous - those are the people that have heart attacks in their 40s.  The genetic defect can cause low levels of the enzymes necessary to metabolize b12, b6 and folate in the methylation cycle (which is important for detox and energy).   Oral B12 usually has little impact (again since there is low levels of the enzymes in the gut necessary to process the b12).   You need either sublingual or shots/transdermal b12.  I do the latter and it works very well.  I could not function without this.  Blood tests are not always accurate in detecting the vitamin deficiencies.  You can have normal levels (or even high levels) in the blood, but your body can't use it.  The docs need to test for the defect.  They will often measure homocysteine

which is a sign you are not metabolizing or getting enough B12/b6/folate.  Although, some are unwilling to as they are concerned it could cause problems in getting insurance later. I don't know of any docs in the Houston area - you should look in the Armour friendly list in the group and make sure to review the doctor write-ups in the database.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/files/Doctors/  (there's a file listing Armour docs and there are some in the Houston area)

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/database  (You should write-up the Endo you fired to save others the grief).

B.

 

Have any of those with depression,  had lab test to see if you have any MTHFR mutations?  Reason I ask is mutation of the MTHFR are common with depression.  Only reason I know about it is my grandson with autism has one of the mutations thus I have researched it greatly.  This mutation causes the pathway for formation of several neurotransmitters not to function efficiently. 

 

I have hypothyroidism, on levothyroxin 110 mcg, but feel I would be better on Armour.  I fired my really stupid endo doc >8 yrs ago.  Now get my RX from my IM doc who only goes by the labs, not symptoms too.  Does anyone know of a good doctor in the Houston area who will listen to the patient's symptoms and not just labs?

 

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And, just to emphasize, this is something you should discuss with your doctor.  If they find you have issues in this are, then they can develop a treatment protocol for you.  It is possible to have severe detox reactions once you start on the B12 as it will improve your body's ability to get rid of toxins.

B.

I had a hard time finding a good webpage that described this well.  I found this doctor's webpage that describes it fairly decently:

http://healingthewholechild.com/2012/03/01/mthfr-mutations/

Here's the wikipedia article that explains it from a scientific/medical perspective:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylenetetrahydrofolate_reductase

And, there are tons of articles in the medical research in pubmed (almost 5000) and the correlation of the defects with other diseases and health problems including heart disease and autoimmune diseases.  There are a handful specific to hypothyroidism.  Issues with the methylation cycle have been associated CFS and FM.  Here's a discussion on Dr. Myhill's site:

http://drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/CFS_-_The_Methylation_Cycle  (Note: he doesn't discuss the genetic defects but rather how you can test how the methylation cycle is working as is). 

B.

 

please tell me what MTHFR mutations means.  is mthfr bereaved Thanks

To: " Texas_Thyroid_Groups " <Texas_Thyroid_Groups >

Sent: Wed, August 29, 2012 10:58:55 AMSubject: Re: Re: Austin patient

 

How often do you get The b12 shots Ellis Ecke, LPC, LCDC www.thetraumaqueen.com

Yes, MTHFR mutations are very common - 30% of the population is heterozygous for the mutation.  A small percentage are homozygous - those are the people that have heart attacks in their 40s.  The genetic defect can cause low levels of the enzymes necessary to metabolize b12, b6 and folate in the methylation cycle (which is important for detox and energy).   Oral B12 usually has little impact (again since there is low levels of the enzymes in the gut necessary to process the b12).   You need either sublingual or shots/transdermal b12.  I do the latter and it works very well.  I could not function without this.  Blood tests are not always accurate in detecting the vitamin deficiencies.  You can have normal levels (or even high levels) in the blood, but your body can't use it.  The docs need to test for the defect.  They will often measure homocysteine

which is a sign you are not metabolizing or getting enough B12/b6/folate.  Although, some are unwilling to as they are concerned it could cause problems in getting insurance later. I don't know of any docs in the Houston area - you should look in the Armour friendly list in the group and make sure to review the doctor write-ups in the database.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/files/Doctors/  (there's a file listing Armour docs and there are some in the Houston area)

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/database  (You should write-up the Endo you fired to save others the grief).

B.

 

Have any of those with depression,  had lab test to see if you have any MTHFR mutations?  Reason I ask is mutation of the MTHFR are common with depression.  Only reason I know about it is my grandson with autism has one of the mutations thus I have researched it greatly.  This mutation causes the pathway for formation of several neurotransmitters not to function efficiently. 

 

I have hypothyroidism, on levothyroxin 110 mcg, but feel I would be better on Armour.  I fired my really stupid endo doc >8 yrs ago.  Now get my RX from my IM doc who only goes by the labs, not symptoms too.  Does anyone know of a good doctor in the Houston area who will listen to the patient's symptoms and not just labs?

 

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I think I mentioned this before (although not very coherently, IIRC, and most likely in connection with a slightly different discussion), the MTHFR A1298C minor allele can also cause a deficiency of BH4. (The frequency of the homozygous allele is 11.5%--not many of us, fortunately). Wonder of wonders, I found a better link this time too: http://www.mthfrsupport.com/1/post/2012/1/the-importance-of-bh4-in-the-mthfr-a1298c-gene-mutation.html Those who want to be tested for MTHFR might be better served by looking at 23andMe (23andme.com) And you’re right, that it’s hard to find a single web page to explain it. The information is all over the place. From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 15:47To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: Austin patient I had a hard time finding a good webpage that described this well. I found this doctor's webpage that describes it fairly decently:http://healingthewholechild.com/2012/03/01/mthfr-mutations/Here's the wikipedia article that explains it from a scientific/medical perspective:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylenetetrahydrofolate_reductaseAnd, there are tons of articles in the medical research in pubmed (almost 5000) and the correlation of the defects with other diseases and health problems including heart disease and autoimmune diseases. There are a handful specific to hypothyroidism. Issues with the methylation cycle have been associated CFS and FM. Here's a discussion on Dr. Myhill's site:http://drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/CFS_-_The_Methylation_Cycle (Note: he doesn't discuss the genetic defects but rather how you can test how the methylation cycle is working as is). B. please tell me what MTHFR mutations means. is mthfr bereaved Thanks To: " Texas_Thyroid_Groups " <Texas_Thyroid_Groups >Sent: Wed, August 29, 2012 10:58:55 AMSubject: Re: Re: Austin patient How often do you get The b12 shots Ellis Ecke, LPC, LCDC www.thetraumaqueen.com On Aug 29, 2012, at 9:29 AM, wrote:Yes, MTHFR mutations are very common - 30% of the population is heterozygous for the mutation. A small percentage are homozygous - those are the people that have heart attacks in their 40s. The genetic defect can cause low levels of the enzymes necessary to metabolize b12, b6 and folate in the methylation cycle (which is important for detox and energy). Oral B12 usually has little impact (again since there is low levels of the enzymes in the gut necessary to process the b12). You need either sublingual or shots/transdermal b12. I do the latter and it works very well. I could not function without this. Blood tests are not always accurate in detecting the vitamin deficiencies. You can have normal levels (or even high levels) in the blood, but your body can't use it. The docs need to test for the defect. They will often measure homocysteine which is a sign you are not metabolizing or getting enough B12/b6/folate. Although, some are unwilling to as they are concerned it could cause problems in getting insurance later. I don't know of any docs in the Houston area - you should look in the Armour friendly list in the group and make sure to review the doctor write-ups in the database.http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/files/Doctors/ (there's a file listing Armour docs and there are some in the Houston area)http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/database (You should write-up the Endo you fired to save others the grief). B. Have any of those with depression, had lab test to see if you have any MTHFR mutations? Reason I ask is mutation of the MTHFR are common with depression. Only reason I know about it is my grandson with autism has one of the mutations thus I have researched it greatly. This mutation causes the pathway for formation of several neurotransmitters not to function efficiently. I have hypothyroidism, on levothyroxin 110 mcg, but feel I would be better on Armour. I fired my really stupid endo doc >8 yrs ago. Now get my RX from my IM doc who only goes by the labs, not symptoms too. Does anyone know of a good doctor in the Houston area who will listen to the patient's symptoms and not just labs? Joyce<*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Thyroid_Groups/join (Yahoo! ID required)<*> To change settings via email: Texas_Thyroid_Groups-digest Texas_Thyroid_Groups-fullfeatured <*>