Re: Val, more questions please

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>>All of these temps were on 100 mcg t3 and 25 HC. The 98.9 reading

was a day after I stressed dosed by 2.5 mg.<<

This should tell you something. When a small stress dose raises temps liek that

it is because oyu arenot on QUITE enough HC and the stress dose allowed a

thyroid dump. I owuld hold Cytomel where it is and raise the HC by5MG. If temps

go over 99 lower Cytomel.

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Thank you Val...will do it and let you know.

As always, you are a great help and a clear mind, when all the world

is in a fog!

Naffy

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> >>All of these temps were on 100 mcg t3 and 25 HC. The 98.9 reading

> was a day after I stressed dosed by 2.5 mg.<<

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> This should tell you something. When a small stress dose raises

temps liek that it is because oyu arenot on QUITE enough HC and the

stress dose allowed a thyroid dump. I owuld hold Cytomel where it is

and raise the HC by5MG. If temps go over 99 lower Cytomel.

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If temps go over 99 lower Cytomel

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I'm assuming you're meaning AVERAGE temps right? If averages are

98.6-98.9 I stay with the same dosage?

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> > >>All of these temps were on 100 mcg t3 and 25 HC. The 98.9

reading

> > was a day after I stressed dosed by 2.5 mg.<<

> >

> > This should tell you something. When a small stress dose raises

> temps liek that it is because oyu arenot on QUITE enough HC and

the

> stress dose allowed a thyroid dump. I owuld hold Cytomel where it

is

> and raise the HC by5MG. If temps go over 99 lower Cytomel.

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Geez you have the patience of a saint. OF COURSE I knew that you

meant averages, but this adrenal stuff strips me of my confidence

and I get very unsure of everything.

Thanks for your patience Val.

Naffy

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> >>I'm assuming you're meaning AVERAGE temps right? If averages

are

> 98.6-98.9 I stay with the same dosage?<<

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> Yes. Averages! LOL

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Hi Val....I upped the HC by 5 mg yesterday like you said. Did not

sleep well last night at all, and am feeling wired this morning.

Possible thyroid dump?? What are the actual symptoms of a thyroid

dump? Should I maybe lower Cytomel a bit today only...say like 12.5

mcg?? Thanks again!

Naffy

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> > >>I'm assuming you're meaning AVERAGE temps right? If averages

> are

> > 98.6-98.9 I stay with the same dosage?<<

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> > Yes. Averages! LOL

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Val I don't think I can wait for a daily average...I[m feeling

progressively worse and I just laid down for a rest and could actually

SEE my heart thumping thru my blouse. I feel drugged and very funky.

I'm assuming this is the famous dump. Have not had my morn meds

yet....would you advise to NOT take my morning dose of Cytomel. And

go ahead and take my 7.5 HC morning dose?

This is not fun!

Naffy

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> >>Hi Val....I upped the HC by 5 mg yesterday like you said. Did not

> sleep well last night at all, and am feeling wired this morning.

> Possible thyroid dump?? What are the actual symptoms of a thyroid

> dump? Should I maybe lower Cytomel a bit today only...say like 12.5

> mcg?? Thanks again!<<

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> I would check your temps adn if they go over 99 for a daily average

then I would lower Cytomel & assume a thyroid dump.

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Thanks Val for being so quick. will do.

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> Take the usual HC dose adn check your temp NOW. If it is much higher

> than normal then do not take the Cytomel.

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Ok Val I did what you said.....took my temp at the height of my

discomfort this morning and it was normal for me at that hour

(98.2)...weird....but because I felt so bad, I went ahead and skipped

my first dose. Only took Cytomel at noon and afternoon, cutting out

25 mcg for the entire day. My three temps averaged 98.8. So I'll

stay the course for now. Are we waiting for temps to go down a bit

after three days of this?

Thanks,

Naffy

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> Take the usual HC dose adn check your temp NOW. If it is much higher

> than normal then do not take the Cytomel.

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Hi Val....see you haven't been around here today, but thought I'd go

ahead and fill you in on how I've been doing. In the post above,

yesterday, I lowered Cytomel but still had pretty high temp average

for the day.(98.8) Today I went back to original dose of 100 mcg of

cytomel while holding the HC raise I made yesterday of 30 mg. Well

my ave. temp today is 98.2!!! I expected the temps to go down a

bit, because of the lowered Cytomel yesterday, but by going down SO

MUCH doesn't that show adrenal stress?? Why would my adrenals

stress by RAISING the HC, when they were always very steady at a

lower dose??? I just don't know what to expect from my body anymore

and how to read the signs. Can you help me figure it out please?

And what to do now....raise Cytomel?

Thanks Val.....sorry to be such a bore.

Naffy

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> > Take the usual HC dose adn check your temp NOW. If it is much

higher

> > than normal then do not take the Cytomel.

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You're there....great! Thanks for answering....thought you were on

holiday today or something. You SHOULD be.

Ok...will hold a week and not complain I guess. I figured lower

temps could be from lowered Cytomel OR then again, from more HC

soaking up all the t3 I had pooling.

since you're there I'll take advantage and ask another

question....does HIGH cortisol also cause pooling of t3 in the blood-

and high blood labs of t3? How can one really know which is the

problem....if temps are where they should be and steady..but labs

show high t3....how do we KNOW it is low cortisol and not high?

Thanks,

Naffy

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> Hold these doses changes for at least a week. YES the lowered

temps

> today can be from the lowered Cytomel yesterday.

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But when we're on t3 only there is NO conversion, right? So if there

is no t4 in the system....and we ASSUME rt3 is gone (on t3 only for

4 months)....how would I know if my cortisol was still too low or

too high.(am thinking high because of fast weight gain,/fluid

retention lately). My temps before were steady and highISH. If my

cortisol were low, then my temps would not have been able to get so

high right? )98.6-98.7) I don't mean to contradict...beleive me, I

am just trying to get a grip on the logic of it all. It has me

baffled.

I wish there were a course Cortisol 101! LOL

Thanks,

Naffy

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> >>does HIGH cortisol also cause pooling of t3 in the blood-

> and high blood labs of t3? How can one really know which is the

> problem....if temps are where they should be and steady..but labs

> show high t3....how do we KNOW it is low cortisol and not high?<<

>

> Nope high cortisol does not cause pooling. It blocks conversion of

T4 to T3 But to my knowledge it uses up MORE T3 which would leave

blood levels low, unless ther is still highRT3 stopping it form

getting to the cells. With high RT3 this is wbhy you can have high

T3 or low T3 btu T4 will ususlaly be over midrange when RT3 is high.

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But Val.....back in my original post #2075, I posted my temps and

all the latest ones were over 98.6 and you told me to raise HC.

I'm really confused. I'm sorry if you're being clear, and Im being

dumb...but if I was high thyroid, why wouldn't you recommend to

lower Cytomel? Could you clarify everything please, going back to

my original post?

Thank you very much,

Naffy

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> Temps that average over 98.6 would mean high thyroid.

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