Re: Read this about Aspartame (Nutrasweet)

March 31, 1999

As one who can drink a can of aspartame sweetened diet coke and have my BG's

go sky high and whose sister gets headaches if she inadvertently eats a

piece of something with aspartame. I wonder just whose dollar publishes

what. I don't consider my alergy an " urban legend " as I am certain others

with my similar experience will concur. After all Monsanto who produces

Aspartame owns big parts of many companies including being a major

contributor to ADA. After all why should they want to kill the golden

goose. They aren't the ones getting the shakes or headaches or seeing

uncontrolable BG's

Ann S

Read this about Aspartame (Nutrasweet)

> From: KeelyZee@...

>

> Well...I am sure almost EVERYONE here on the list has gotten a thing

saying

> that Aspartame (Nutrasweet) can cause " M-S like " symptoms......I got a

mailing

> from a friend online and it quoted all these " specialists " making all

these

> claims that Aspartame can lead to " methanol toxicity " .....well.....I saw

an

> article today in my doctor's office in Time Magazine on page 76 in the

> February 8, 1999 issue.....if you can get it, either at your local library

or

> you have it in your home READ IT!!!!!!!...VERY interesting!!! The

article is

> called " Web of Deceit " by Gorman. The article goes on to say

that

> MANY " urban legends " start on the web and scare the snot out of

people....one

> famous one is " sunscreen in a baby's eyes will make them blind " (I got

that

> one too in my e-mail)

>

> The article goes on to list a VERY valuable website that you can check

before

> you pass on a health warning......

>

> http://www.urbanlegends.miningco.com

>

> To summerize the article I read if you can NOT locate the February 8th

1999

> Time Magazine goes like this:

>

> Aspartame does NOT cause headaches (I don't know how long I have heard

that

> rumor), birth defects, brain cancer, diabetes, Gulf War Syndrome, lupus,

M-S,

> or seizures. It goes on to say that the amount of " methanol " in a can of

> diet pop contains FOUR TIMES less than a glass of tomato juice!!!! It

goes on

> to say that all fresh fruits and veggies have trace amounts of methanol.

>

> Would be real interested in hearing from you all about this.......since we

> diabetics rely on artificial sweetners......did anyone else on the list

see

> the article I am talking about???

>

> Cheers!!!!! Keely

>

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March 31, 1999

At 05:43 PM 3/30/99 -0600, you wrote:

>

>As one who can drink a can of aspartame sweetened diet coke and have my BG's

>go sky high and whose sister gets headaches if she inadvertently eats a

>piece of something with aspartame. I wonder just whose dollar publishes

>what. I don't consider my alergy an " urban legend " as I am certain others

>with my similar experience will concur. After all Monsanto who produces

>Aspartame owns big parts of many companies including being a major

>contributor to ADA. After all why should they want to kill the golden

>goose. They aren't the ones getting the shakes or headaches or seeing

>uncontrolable BG's

You may be getting effects from the phenylalinine component of aspartame.

It is used by some people as a stimulant or antidepressant. It's a precursor

to norepinephrine or one of the related neurotransmitters. It would create

stress, and send BG off, as well as cause shakes and headaches, if you

are sensitive. One friend of mine tried it as an antidepressant, and couldn't

tolerate it. My next door neighbor gets high BG (and had a car crash as a

result) from psuedofed, another stimulant.

" Complex questions have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers. "

Collier pljdc@...

Department of Philosophy Http://bcollier.newcastle.edu.au

University of Newcastle, NSW 2308 AUSTRALIA

March 31, 1999

I've seen both sides, but the problem is... how do we know which is true?

I know that aspartame causes my vision to blur.

I go without it and it clears up, I drink a couple of diet sodas or have

some SF Jello and my vision is " off " again.

Meenie

Read this about Aspartame (Nutrasweet)

>From: KeelyZee@...

>

>Well...I am sure almost EVERYONE here on the list has gotten a thing saying

>that Aspartame (Nutrasweet) can cause " M-S like " symptoms......I got a

mailing

>from a friend online and it quoted all these " specialists " making all these

>claims that Aspartame can lead to " methanol toxicity " .....well.....I saw an

>article today in my doctor's office in Time Magazine on page 76 in the

>February 8, 1999 issue.....if you can get it, either at your local library

or

>you have it in your home READ IT!!!!!!!...VERY interesting!!! The article

is

>called " Web of Deceit " by Gorman. The article goes on to say

that

>MANY " urban legends " start on the web and scare the snot out of

people....one

>famous one is " sunscreen in a baby's eyes will make them blind " (I got that

>one too in my e-mail)

>

>The article goes on to list a VERY valuable website that you can check

before

>you pass on a health warning......

>

>http://www.urbanlegends.miningco.com

>

>To summerize the article I read if you can NOT locate the February 8th 1999

>Time Magazine goes like this:

>

>Aspartame does NOT cause headaches (I don't know how long I have heard that

>rumor), birth defects, brain cancer, diabetes, Gulf War Syndrome, lupus,

M-S,

>or seizures. It goes on to say that the amount of " methanol " in a can of

>diet pop contains FOUR TIMES less than a glass of tomato juice!!!! It goes

on

>to say that all fresh fruits and veggies have trace amounts of methanol.

>

>Would be real interested in hearing from you all about this.......since we

>diabetics rely on artificial sweetners......did anyone else on the list see

>the article I am talking about???

>

>Cheers!!!!! Keely

>

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March 31, 1999

I would like to point out the author of the urban legends article told me (I

have

several e-mails form him) that he considers his article to be " balanced " and not

to claim that people who are saying that aspartame affects them badly are wrong

about that. He is angry that people are saying that his site there debunks

aspartame critics. I can show you the mails if you want to see them. He just

says

that the people who have the anti-aspartame sites don't help their cause very

much

because they seem so fanatical. But who can blame them? They are angry because

aspartame nearly killed them and they got better when they stopped using it.

They

get hundreds of hits a day, form people who find out that aspartame is affecting

them badly, and their mail runs one hundred to one in their favor. People who

suspect that aspartame is the cause of their symptoms stop using it, and check

back later to report their improved conditions, and they even have a support

group

for people who have gotten off of aspartame.

The Time article is part of the public relations campaign that Monsanto

Corporation, the makers of aspartame, are paying for. They have an 8.7 billion

dollar a year enterprise to defend tooth and nail, and they have a huge amount

of

political clout and they know how to use it. Gorman is reported to

have

gotten about 10,000 angry responses from aspartame victims for her hatchet job

that she did on aspartame detractors (aspartame victims is more the word), and

she

had little choice but to do it because of the financial ties between the owners

of

Time and Monsanto.

For a point be point rebuttal of the series of claims about methanol, you should

read http://dorway.com/schwartz.html , http://dorway.com/offasprt.html ,

http://dorway.com/whotest.html . Most importantly, if you are using aspartame

and

you are experiencing joint pain, headaches, uncontrollable BG's, and any of the

other 92 symptoms reported to the FDA in their list of 11,000 complaints the

they

received in 1995, when they stopped cataloguing complaint, just stop using it

and

see if they don't go away. I know that in my own case, they did, and I don't

need

industry propaganda to tell me differently.

Cheers!

KeelyZee@... wrote:

> From: KeelyZee@...

>

> Well...I am sure almost EVERYONE here on the list has gotten a thing saying

> that Aspartame (Nutrasweet) can cause " M-S like " symptoms......I got a mailing

> from a friend online and it quoted all these " specialists " making all these

> claims that Aspartame can lead to " methanol toxicity " .....well.....I saw an

> article today in my doctor's office in Time Magazine on page 76 in the

> February 8, 1999 issue.....if you can get it, either at your local library or

> you have it in your home READ IT!!!!!!!...VERY interesting!!! The article is

> called " Web of Deceit " by Gorman. The article goes on to say that

> MANY " urban legends " start on the web and scare the snot out of people....one

> famous one is " sunscreen in a baby's eyes will make them blind " (I got that

> one too in my e-mail)

>

> The article goes on to list a VERY valuable website that you can check before

> you pass on a health warning......

>

> http://www.urbanlegends.miningco.com

>

> To summerize the article I read if you can NOT locate the February 8th 1999

> Time Magazine goes like this:

>

> Aspartame does NOT cause headaches (I don't know how long I have heard that

> rumor), birth defects, brain cancer, diabetes, Gulf War Syndrome, lupus, M-S,

> or seizures. It goes on to say that the amount of " methanol " in a can of

> diet pop contains FOUR TIMES less than a glass of tomato juice!!!! It goes on

> to say that all fresh fruits and veggies have trace amounts of methanol.

>

> Would be real interested in hearing from you all about this.......since we

> diabetics rely on artificial sweetners......did anyone else on the list see

> the article I am talking about???

>

> Cheers!!!!! Keely

>

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March 31, 1999

Ann,

I am not questioning your allergies to Aspartame or even some of the others

allergies but what I am question why are you and others trying to stop

people from having access to it that do not have problems with the

Aspartame?

We are seeing more and more of people going around and trying to stop things

from being produced just because they can't use the products. Because of my

wife's allergy to flower scents then she should push to have all flowered

candles, and soap banned? I don't think so. It is bad enough now that there

are peanut free schools, airplanes and now public transportation. What next?

I have a condition that certain frequencies of two-way radios give me

headaches but I have not asked that the radios be banned. I did have to stop

my one dispatching job because of it. I also have problems with my heart

when around some types of microwaves (both microwave Ovens as well as

microwave Dishes as used in communications). I know I have to stay away from

them but I allow others to use them.

So let's get these in perspective and for the people that have allergies

then they need to not use it and for the people that can drink or use it let

them use it and everyone will be happy. Many people get very upset when you

tell them that they can't do something that they want to do. I have seen

some crazy things when people have been told now to certain behavior. In my

10 years as a law enforcement officer I had my share of people that were

told not to drink that got very violent about being told to stop. Once even

to the point of gunpoint to me.

Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY

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March 31, 1999

Bill at no time have I EVER posted that we should get rid of aspartame. I

feel that that is what your post implyed about splenda. I have posted to

people that if they have no problem with it then by all means use it. But

since so many people have a problem with it I feel like the commercial use

of other sweeteners like splenda is discouraged because of the HUGE power of

the Monsanto Money. After all they have fought for almost 10 years to keep

splenda off the US market shelves. And kept this wonderful sweetener out of

this country. For the diabetic Splenda is such a blessing. You can cook

with it which you can't do with aspartame and it opens up a whole new world

to those using artificial sugar. Once it is readily available I think taste

and versatility alone will hurt the market for aspartame. I use it all the

time and make things I could not make before when I only had aspartame

available.

I truly believe that Monsanto realizes that it will loose its strangle hold

on the diet food market once splenda is in full swing here in this country.

These points aside. I am certain that like apartame, splenda will have its

people who can't use it, after all there ARE people who can't use regular

sugar as well. So there should be room for both. Sweet & Low still holds

its market share though not as large.

So when someone like you quotes things like URBAN LEGENDS as a point to

dispute my sensativity to aspartame I must speak up. This is all my post

said. I AM ALERGIC TO Aspartame. Which your post clearly said I could not

be.

Ann S

Re: Read this about Aspartame (Nutrasweet)

>

> Ann,

>

> I am not questioning your allergies to Aspartame or even some of the

others

> allergies but what I am question why are you and others trying to stop

> people from having access to it that do not have problems with the

> Aspartame?

>

> We are seeing more and more of people going around and trying to stop

things

> from being produced just because they can't use the products. Because of

my

> wife's allergy to flower scents then she should push to have all flowered

> candles, and soap banned? I don't think so. It is bad enough now that

there

> are peanut free schools, airplanes and now public transportation. What

next?

> I have a condition that certain frequencies of two-way radios give me

> headaches but I have not asked that the radios be banned. I did have to

stop

> my one dispatching job because of it. I also have problems with my heart

> when around some types of microwaves (both microwave Ovens as well as

> microwave Dishes as used in communications). I know I have to stay away

from

> them but I allow others to use them.

>

> So let's get these in perspective and for the people that have allergies

> then they need to not use it and for the people that can drink or use it

let

> them use it and everyone will be happy. Many people get very upset when

you

> tell them that they can't do something that they want to do. I have seen

> some crazy things when people have been told now to certain behavior. In

my

> 10 years as a law enforcement officer I had my share of people that were

> told not to drink that got very violent about being told to stop. Once

even

> to the point of gunpoint to me.

>

> Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY

> wtnewman@...

> Bill@...

> www.christianmerchants.com

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March 31, 1999

You took this as a personal flame but it was not. I was just making a

statement of many people who have been working against the Aspartame

products.

The new sweeteners are good. I have not been against them but promoting them

so I can't see where you are getting that I am against it. How many times

have to told people new products that contain it and I have been using it

for over 4 years myself bring it in from Canada. I actually had to pay a

fine once for bringing in an illegal substance back in 1996.

There are a couple of other bill's on this list and I know one was against

any substitutes and was totally natural in eating. I am far from that.

As far as the Monsanto lobbying the other sweeteners, yes they had a hand in

it but the big problem was the sugar industry themselves. They had the most

to lose even though sugar is changed into Splenda by changing the

composition. They figured they would lose over 5 Million dollars in the

first two years.

Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY

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Cheers, !

I couldn't agree more with your post. I stopped using it and find my BGs are

lower, my heart palpitations have just about disappeared, and my headaches

have lessened in intensity. It all boils down to individuality. Until we

start cloning everyone and there is essentially only one type of human being

on the planet, blanket statements that this or that is or is not harmful to

you is complete hogwash. Each person needs to decide that for themselves - no

matter how many test studies are run.

I for one would never take the chance again in aspartame or nutrasweet, even

though the odds are supposedly in my favor given the low incidence of cancer

in the lab rats - but I already have it - seems that it would just increase

the probabilities.

This is beginning to sound like the tobacco industry all over again. It all

boil down to economics.

in Port Orange, FL

April 1, 1999

Ann,

You may have posted this before and I missed it - but - where do you get your

Splenda from? I cannot find it here at all.

in Port Orange, FL

April 1, 1999

Wow,

Can it cause blurred vision?

Meenie

Re: Read this about Aspartame (Nutrasweet)

>

>At 05:43 PM 3/30/99 -0600, you wrote:

>>

>>As one who can drink a can of aspartame sweetened diet coke and have my

BG's

>>go sky high and whose sister gets headaches if she inadvertently eats a

>>piece of something with aspartame. I wonder just whose dollar publishes

>>what. I don't consider my alergy an " urban legend " as I am certain others

>>with my similar experience will concur. After all Monsanto who produces

>>Aspartame owns big parts of many companies including being a major

>>contributor to ADA. After all why should they want to kill the golden

>>goose. They aren't the ones getting the shakes or headaches or seeing

>>uncontrolable BG's

>

>You may be getting effects from the phenylalinine component of aspartame.

>It is used by some people as a stimulant or antidepressant. It's a

precursor

>to norepinephrine or one of the related neurotransmitters. It would create

>stress, and send BG off, as well as cause shakes and headaches, if you

>are sensitive. One friend of mine tried it as an antidepressant, and

couldn't

>tolerate it. My next door neighbor gets high BG (and had a car crash as a

>result) from psuedofed, another stimulant.

>

> " Complex questions have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers. "

> Collier pljdc@...

>Department of Philosophy Http://bcollier.newcastle.edu.au

>University of Newcastle, NSW 2308 AUSTRALIA

>

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Yes Meenie, I understand from some people that it does. Also high BG's can

cause blurred vision. I usually know when I am out of kilter as my vision

is the first to go.

Ann S

Re: Read this about Aspartame (Nutrasweet)

>

> >

> >At 05:43 PM 3/30/99 -0600, you wrote:

> >>

> >>As one who can drink a can of aspartame sweetened diet coke and have my

> BG's

> >>go sky high and whose sister gets headaches if she inadvertently eats a

> >>piece of something with aspartame. I wonder just whose dollar publishes

> >>what. I don't consider my alergy an " urban legend " as I am certain

others

> >>with my similar experience will concur. After all Monsanto who produces

> >>Aspartame owns big parts of many companies including being a major

> >>contributor to ADA. After all why should they want to kill the golden

> >>goose. They aren't the ones getting the shakes or headaches or seeing

> >>uncontrolable BG's

> >

> >You may be getting effects from the phenylalinine component of aspartame.

> >It is used by some people as a stimulant or antidepressant. It's a

> precursor

> >to norepinephrine or one of the related neurotransmitters. It would

create

> >stress, and send BG off, as well as cause shakes and headaches, if you

> >are sensitive. One friend of mine tried it as an antidepressant, and

> couldn't

> >tolerate it. My next door neighbor gets high BG (and had a car crash as a

> >result) from psuedofed, another stimulant.

> >

> > " Complex questions have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers. "

> > Collier

pljdc@...

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> >University of Newcastle, NSW 2308 AUSTRALIA

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April 1, 1999

http://www.splenda.com/main.html Here is a site by the people who are going to

be marketing splenda but they don't have any information about where to get it.

clerk@... wrote:

> From: clerk@...

>

> Ann,

>

> You may have posted this before and I missed it - but - where do you get your

> Splenda from? I cannot find it here at all.

>

> in Port Orange, FL

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

April 1, 1999

Meenie wrote:

>

> Wow,

> Can it cause blurred vision?

> Meenie

>

Here is an excerpt from http://www.dorway.com/blinding.txt

(This was writen by a diabetes specialist)

" In the present context, these statistics are pertinent.

* In my earlier report on 551 aspartame reactors (the data base is now

833), decreased vision was a major problem in 140 {25.4%), severe pain

in 51 (8.3%), and " dry eyes " or trouble wearing contact lens in 48

(8.3%). Sixteen patients have lost vision in one or both eyes.

* The FDA (as of August 1995) had received complaints about a change in

vision from 384 consumers, and " eye irritation " from 30.

These complications tend to be magnified in persons with diabetes,

hypertension, unrecognized hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid),

hypoglycemia (low blood sugar reactions). reaction to MSG, treatment

with aspirin and other drugs that can irritate the optic and auditory

nerves, persons who smoke or drink alcohol, and problems associated with

aging. "

Although industry propaganda has declared that there is more Methyl Alcohol, or

" wood alcohol " as it is commonly known, in a glass of fruit juice than in a can

of diet soda, they fail to mention that in foods it is accompanied by its

natural antidote, ethyl alcohol, which is in fruits at about a ten to one ratio

on the average.

In the book FUNDAMENTALS OF CHEMISTRY BY Bogert, eighth edition, on

page 286 it says:

" Methyl Alcohol or " wood alcohol " taken internally is a dangerous

poison. It paralyzes the optic nerve and as little as 10 cc may cause

blindness. Its use as a solvent in industries causes a hazard for

workmen unless forced ventilation is installed, since continual

breathing of the vapors, may result in blindness. A similar hazard

exists when it is used as an antifreeze agent in automobile radiators,

since it is vaporized by engine heat and the toxic vapor may be swept

back into the car. Methyl (wood) alcohol is sometimes present in

improperly prepared distilled liquors and is added to ethyl alcohol to

render it unfit for beverage purposes. ( " denatured alcohol " ). "

So, we are not talking about an allergy here. We are talking about a reaction to

a toxin. NutraSweet declares on their FAQ on their website that it is not

possible to have an allergic reaction to aspartame. In a reply that I got from

the American Diabetes Association when I asked them what they thought about

people who had reactions to aspartame and when they stopped using it, their

symptoms went away, I got this, part of a FAQ from Monsanto:

" Q. Some people remain convinced that aspartame causes

their symptoms because their symptoms go away when they

avoid using aspartame. Why does this happen?

A. The phenomenon known as " counter placebo effect " is a

problem familiar to clinical investigators and clinical toxicologists

involved in testing the effects (therapeutic and toxic) of foods and

drugs. It is a curious, but well known fact that when an individual

suffering from a particular symptom or symptoms is convinced -- for

whatever reason -- (e.g., reading an article, advice from a friend)

that the symptom is related to a specific food or drug, there is a

high probability that the symptom will abate when that food or

drug is discontinued. This is a natural pyschologic response. "

I think that this " counter placebo effect " theory is an insult to the people

like myself who know very well that the symptoms we suffered are all too real. I

know that when I get some aspartame slipped to, I can tell it right away. I get

a number of symptoms, and all I have to do is remember what I ate, and then I

look at the label, and there it is. Happens every time. So, while NutraSweet

says that it is not possible to have an allergic reaction, in seeking to justify

the use of the stuff, its defenders say that it is possible, and use that as an

explanation for these phenomena of people having bad reactions.

The tobacco industry went a rather long time muddying up the water with

political payoffs and public relations ploys before they started having to divvy

up money in lawsuits and such. That is what Monsanto is doing. They know it's a

lot cheaper to have a bunch of congressmen and administration people in their

pockets and expensive PR outfits on the payroll than to have to settle up the

barrage of lawsuits that are eventually going to catch up with them. If you own

stock in their company, you might consider selling it before long.

April 1, 1999

About 6 or 7 years ago, my daughter and I took a nutrition course because I

wanted to get some better info and I was tired and weak all the time. The

nutritionist who gave the course ended up giving me the name of a practicing

nutritionist in our area who specialized in the all-natural approach given all

the allergies I was professing.

One of the first things she asked was about the diet soft driks, etc and my

intake of aspartame, nutrasweet and any other artificial sweetener at that

time. She gave me an informational sheet about what each caused and lo and

behold! about 50% of the list I identified as side affects from the

artificial sweeteners - Rapid heart beat, blurred vision, night blindness (top

of the list for me!), low energy and occasional weakness, occasional

dizziness, to name a few of the side affects I was experiencing. And I already

new about the cancer studies - but thought that this didn't apply to me!

Without knowing it, I had been slowly " poisoning " myself.

She convinced me! I stopped consumption - or at least slowed it down about 75%

at that time - and felt a lot better almost immediately - and, as I slowly

eliminated the other products which contained it, I felt even better. You

will NEVER convince me that the side affects that were professed on that list

were not valid, at least for me. The " double placebo " affect could not

possibly apply in this instance because I didn't see the list beforehand and

still had all those symptoms - which went away when I cleaned them out of my

system.

Now, I can eat certain foods with aspartame in it, but the soda? No! For some

reason, it really gets to me. The Caffeine free sugar free ones are better

than the others - I can have one glass about once a month I figure - but I

don't even bother with that unless there is absolutely no other choice

available - including water. I still try to stay away from all of it because

there is no sense taking a chance on that which could be a potential problem

later on even though there are no side affects with the specific food.

in Port Orange, FL

In a message dated 99-04-01 14:11:30 EST, you write:

<< However, re: the " double blind placebo " affect, while it may seem

insulting,

it does happen that people will sometimes get the expected result because of

psychological factors. BUT not everyone expects this result from aspartame.

In fact a lot of detractors have gone off it to " prove " the claims to be

wrong and discovered their headaches, etc improved or disappeared.

At any rate, I can only attest that my vision is worse when I use aspartame.

I went off it for several weeks and my vision improved greatly. Then I made

some SF jello and guess what? My vision the next morning was blurry again.

I have deliberately experimented with this three times now with the same

result. Trust me... it wasn't what I wanted to find

>>

April 1, 1999

I would like to try some loose splenda... the only way I have tried it is in

Diet RC.

Obs

Re: Read this about Aspartame (Nutrasweet)

> From: clerk@...

>

> Ann,

>

> You may have posted this before and I missed it - but - where do you get

your

> Splenda from? I cannot find it here at all.

>

> in Port Orange, FL

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

April 1, 1999

I already believed that aspartame can cause blurred vision, but someone

pointed to something else and said that might be it... that is what I was

asking about

However, re: the " double blind placebo " affect, while it may seem insulting,