Re: Hello everyone I am type II uncontrolled non-insulin diagnosed...

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I do have a prescribed diet I use, however, what works for me may not work

for you. Have you seen a dietician? If not, please do so. I have been

diabetic since at least 1992, but was undiagnosed until 1997. Before my

first visit with my dietician, I wrote down everything I ate and the times I

ate it for a couple of weeks, this helped her to identify the trouble spots

for me and enabled her to design a meal plan closely resembling what I was

used to.

in Cincinnati

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I see several dieticians, one at cardio-rehab, one at my diabetes doctor's

office and a few others over the inet and stuff like

http://www.planetrx.com/ but it's all TOO COMPLICATED. Pyramids, weight

watchers, LA Weight Loss, it all costs too much. I need an idea of do's, no

more don'ts. I need a can-do easy to prepare meals approach which will help

me reduce weight and not get too chronic of head pain due to headaches.

Just shoot me your ideas and I'll run it by my dieticians when I see-em...

Luke

http://home.earthlink.net/~johnluke/

Re: Hello everyone I am type II uncontrolled non-insulin

diagnosed...

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> I do have a prescribed diet I use, however, what works for me may not work

> for you. Have you seen a dietician? If not, please do so. I have been

> diabetic since at least 1992, but was undiagnosed until 1997. Before my

> first visit with my dietician, I wrote down everything I ate and the times

I

> ate it for a couple of weeks, this helped her to identify the trouble

spots

> for me and enabled her to design a meal plan closely resembling what I was

> used to.

>

> in Cincinnati

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This is the plan my dietician put me on:

45 carbs for breakfast

45 carbs for lunch

60 carbs for dinner

Choose foods with no more than 3 grams of fat per 100 calories as often as

possible.

When I was on glyburide, I also had to have 3 snacks per day, 15 carbs each.

Now that I am only on glipizide in the evening, I don't need the snacks, so I

have cut them out completely.

One thing I have found very useful - Healthy Choice frozen meals. Most of

them fall in the 45 to 60 carbohydrate range, so they work as full meals for

me. I don't think any of them exceed the 3 grams of fat per 100 calories

rule. And IMHO, they taste good.

My last piece of advice - tell your dietician what you told me -- that it is

too complicated. If she is any good, she will design a plan that you can

handle.

in Cincinnati

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there is no " easy " way.. if you are concerned about your life then you will

learn to read labels and take more concern with what goes into your mouth..

just don't eat a lot of bread, starch foods like potatoes.. anything with

sugar in it.. eat regular meals and check your sugar. you will find what

works for you... watch your carbohydrates, they are listed on the label..

and there are books you can by that can help you with fast food.. just eat

in moderation and if you start to feel jittery or shaky, eat something or

drink some orange juice...

and if you can't cook then it is easier because you have to buy premade

microwavable foods.. turn the carton over and look at how many carbs are in

it.. usually they do. you can't eat 2-3 of them at one sitting... but just

be aware of how many carbs you are eating per day.. get a notebook and write

them down and see how you feel, along with checking your blood sugar

levels.. you might be able to have more or you might need less carbs

depending on how much exercise you get...

being young doesn't have anything to do with it.. you learn to manage just

like everyone else.. not to sound critical, but i had to relearn how to eat

just like most of the people had to when they were diagnosed.. you just do

it.. you watch what you eat and don't eat sweet things..

all this might sound hard. but it isn't... not really once you get into the

hang of it..

if you have any more questions.. please ask..

Goldmoon

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>All this is so technical, just tell me what I can eat please and when.

>College students and other young people like me with little cooking

>experience need help in simple terms to get this job done of saving our

>lives.

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In a message dated 99-07-14 23:34:55 EDT, you write:

<< All this is so technical, just tell me what I can eat please and when.

College students and other young people like me with little cooking

experience need help in simple terms to get this job done of saving our

lives. >>

Yes, Luke, I understand whatyou are saying - I have 3 grown children in your

age bracket - Learning about diabetes IS technical and must be addressed that

way as well as a strong dose of trial and error. You must understand the

technical aspect in order to apply it to your everyday life. And you must

take your BG level often. Each activity has an affect on your BG level.

Sleeping, eating and exercise are those activities I am referring to - take

your BG level before and after each. And record them along with how long you

slept, exercised or what you ate.

Unfortunately, there is no easy answer for us diabetes because what works for

one, may not work for another. Although we can give you advice on how to

proceed, diabetes is very individual. For instance, I can eat Pasta and whole

grain breads and my BGs will actually go DOWN, but cannot eat a white potato

or white bread without my BGs soaring. On the other hand, your system may

respond just the opposite. Some people can consume diet sodas with

nutrasweet or aspartame and it as no affect on them - I wouldn't touch them

with a 10-foot pole - except the Diet RC with splenda.

It's a matter of trial and error with each food. I would, personally, were I

you, start out on Healthy Choice or Lean Cuisine meals - try one and then

take your BG level two hours after - if it went up too much, you can't have

that food, if it goes up a little, down a little or is the same - it is a

safe meal for you. Do this with any meal you consume. For snacks, stick with

some fresh raw veggies - like brocolli, cauliflower and carrots - if you want

a fruit, having it with a meal where other foods are being eaten as well,

will hep compensate for the additional sugar you are receiving in the fruit.

Also, try those clear broths with some crackers for a snack. MBT has great

ones in powder packets. There about 10 to a package for as little as $1.

They come in different flavors. - Onion, Chicken, Beef, and Vegetable (my

personal favorite.)

When you eat out, concentrate on low carb, low fat, low cholesterol and sugar

free. There are books on the market that you can buy which will help you as

well. I have several which list the content of a particular food at

restaurants or prepared products.

I know this may sound difficult and much annoying - but, look at it as one of

your college courses. In fact, most colleges offer a Nutrition class - my

advice would be to take it - you will learn a lot about what you need to do

and how the body reacts to what it consumes. This way, you'll get credit for

it and learn some practical skills to help you.

I balked at learning all this too - my insulin-dependent diabetes is due to

losing most of my pancreas to cancer about 1 1/2 years ago. I was in denial

for about 9 or 10 months until I needed to take insulin - then, I started

getting down to the business of acceptance and realized that if I didn't pay

attention, no one would. My first HbA1C level was something like 14.8 - this

last one, taken about a month ago was 8.5. A remarkable reduction for me in

3 months time. But it took work and my paying attention to me - not anything

else.

You too can do it -

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Have you thought of learning? A pot, a pan, a stove are the basic

necessities. It's really not that hard.

My fiance is an awesome cook and his two brothers are chefs.

Meenie

Re: Hello everyone I am type II uncontrolled non-insulin

diagnosed...

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>I need a keep it simple way. Like if I was in the military they would just

>courts' marshall me and give me a diet and excersize program, that is if I

>had been in weight limits when I joined. But I'm not. Consider this, I

>cannot cook. What do I do?

>

> Luke

>http://home.earthlink.net/~johnluke/

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> Re: Hello everyone I am type II uncontrolled

non-insulin

>diagnosed...

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>

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>>

>> there is no " easy " way.. if you are concerned about your life then you

>will

>> learn to read labels and take more concern with what goes into your

>mouth..

>> just don't eat a lot of bread, starch foods like potatoes.. anything with

>> sugar in it.. eat regular meals and check your sugar. you will find what

>> works for you... watch your carbohydrates, they are listed on the label..

>> and there are books you can by that can help you with fast food.. just

eat

>> in moderation and if you start to feel jittery or shaky, eat something or

>> drink some orange juice...

>>

>>

>> and if you can't cook then it is easier because you have to buy premade

>> microwavable foods.. turn the carton over and look at how many carbs are

>in

>> it.. usually they do. you can't eat 2-3 of them at one sitting... but

just

>> be aware of how many carbs you are eating per day.. get a notebook and

>write

>> them down and see how you feel, along with checking your blood sugar

>> levels.. you might be able to have more or you might need less carbs

>> depending on how much exercise you get...

>>

>>

>> being young doesn't have anything to do with it.. you learn to manage

just

>> like everyone else.. not to sound critical, but i had to relearn how to

>eat

>> just like most of the people had to when they were diagnosed.. you just

do

>> it.. you watch what you eat and don't eat sweet things..

>>

>> all this might sound hard. but it isn't... not really once you get into

>the

>> hang of it..

>>

>> if you have any more questions.. please ask..

>>

>> Goldmoon

>>

>> >

>> >

>> >All this is so technical, just tell me what I can eat please and when.

>> >College students and other young people like me with little cooking

>> >experience need help in simple terms to get this job done of saving our

>> >lives.

>>

>>

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Check with your local grocery store. Many offer cooking lessons and/or

demonstrations. You don't have to be a gourmet cook, unless you want to:-)

Cooking isn't that difficult. And it can be a lot of fun!

One thing that I do, since I live alone, and have a rather busy life, is cook

in " normal " quantities. If I am cooking chicken, I prepare the whole

package, usually 4 breasts. I then freeze the 3 I don't eat at that time in

individual containers. Later, when I want chicken again, I just prepare the

side dishes. I also do this with spaghetti and casseroles. Portion out the

leftovers and individually freeze them. It makes for easy meals when I don't

feel like cooking, and gives me more control over my lunch at work. Instead

of buying lunch, I grab something out of the freezer.

Although I cannot take the responsibility of " designing " a meal plan for you,

I am more than willing to give you some " online cooking lessons " if you want.

Just email questions.

in Cincinnati

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I collect recipes and have several SF recipes which I will share with you, if

you like. I have a nice and easy chicken soup recipe - there are also

message lists that deal with recipes and learning how to cook - Check onelist

for these - I saw several for diabetic recipes.