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Boy, I hope God will forgive the feelings I have about Insurance Company's, Dr's that cheat their patients so they get the all mighty dollar. It's just so wrong. I do know it's all being recorded in some ones book.

Joyce how are you doing without your meds??? God Bless and forgive me.. Peggy

on 5/10/06 8:28 AM, janne5303 at joycedalton29@... wrote:

Hi Gang,

I was just reading through my insurance book and came across these words to physicians. 'physicians may recieve additional payments based on thier performance.....criteria may include.....appropriate use of medical services'. So, less testing, prescriptions for equipment or expensive meds....could result in big fat bonus checks for the doc! Is this what it means?

, what can you find online? Any exposure being given to this?

Joyce PF 1997

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Know you said not good time to change drs, but if possible ask pulmonary to suggest a new rheumatolgist

Joy~ce,

If you change Drs. be sure the new physician has a copy of everything medically from the past on you. I had to get a new primary Dr. last November I believe it was. I made sure he had a copy of everything I had been through. I looked him in the eye and told him I hope he would take the time to look over my case and make himself familiar with what was going on with me. That way, he could work with my Pulmonary, and Rheumatology Drs. for the very best care that the three of them could give me with the disease I have. I feel sometimes we have to take an assertiveness, regarding *US* toward these professionals. We are paying for a service, whether outrite cash or through the high insurance premiums we pay. I told this primary Dr. that if he did not want to be my Dr., or take me on as his patient and work actively with the other Drs., to please, be upfront and tell me so. I said that I was aware that possibly he had all the patients he needed to keep his office and profession busy. But to just be honest with me, as this is my life and the quality therin. He was taken back a bit, but agreed to take me on as a his patient. I reminded him that it was I that chose him and that this was "his" interview.....lol.

BTW, you might remind the Rheumatologist, of the fact that,"He really worked to save my life in early treatment, and as you see it, now he always has his hand on the doorknob."

kiss kiss,

~Ginger~

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.... Sp-e-e-a-king of meds, I haven't signed up for ANY med program

.... I go to the VA and am on Medicare ... and now, I don't know what

to do as I have no idea when/if/what meds I'll need.

Fred

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From: pac1773@...

To: Breathe-Support

Subject: Re: Doctors and Insurance

Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 10:13:13 -0400

>Boy, I hope God will forgive the feelings I have about Insurance

>Company's,

>Dr's that cheat their patients so they get the all mighty dollar.

>It's just

>so wrong. I do know it's all being recorded in some ones book.

>Joyce how are you doing without your meds??? God Bless and forgive

>me..

>Peggy

>

>

>

>on 5/10/06 8:28 AM, janne5303 at joycedalton29@... wrote:

>

>

>Hi Gang,

>

>I was just reading through my insurance book and came across these

>words to

>physicians. 'physicians may recieve additional payments based on

>thier

>performance.....criteria may include.....appropriate use of medical

>services'. So, less testing, prescriptions for equipment or

>expensive

>meds....could result in big fat bonus checks for the doc! Is this

>what it

>means?

>

>, what can you find online? Any exposure being given to this?

>

>Joyce PF 1997

>

>

>

>

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Peggy...I just had to laugh. Do you ever watch the Comedy Channel on TV and see Larry the Cable Guy.?Oh, he is so funny. When he says something he thinks he shouldn't have he will add, "Oh forgive me, and bless the Pigmies in New Guinea"

I join with you that insurance companies can leave us irritated. Sher pf 5-06

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Boy, I hope God will forgive the feelings I have about Insurance Company's, Dr's that cheat their patients so they get the all mighty dollar. It's just so wrong. I do know it's all being recorded in some ones book. Joyce how are you doing without your meds??? God Bless and forgive me.. Peggyon 5/10/06 8:28 AM, janne5303 at joycedalton29@... wrote:

Hi Gang, I was just reading through my insurance book and came across these words to physicians. 'physicians may recieve additional payments based on thier performance.....criteria may include.....appropriate use of medical services'. So, less testing, prescriptions for equipment or expensive meds....could result in big fat bonus checks for the doc! Is this what it means? , what can you find online? Any exposure being given to this? Joyce PF 1997

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Sher, you should hear his CD ... he has a movie out " Larry The Cable

Guy - Health Inspector "

Fred

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From: bofus@...

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Subject: Re: Doctors and Insurance

Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 13:38:20 -0700

>Re: Doctors and InsurancePeggy...I just had to

>laugh. Do you ever watch the Comedy Channel on TV and see Larry the

>Cable Guy.?Oh, he is so funny. When he says something he thinks he

>shouldn't have he will add, " Oh forgive me, and bless the Pigmies in

>New Guinea "

>I join with you that insurance companies can leave us irritated. Sher

>pf 5-06

> Re: Doctors and Insurance

>

>

> Boy, I hope God will forgive the feelings I have about Insurance

>Company's, Dr's that cheat their patients so they get the all mighty

>dollar. It's just so wrong. I do know it's all being recorded in some

>ones book.

> Joyce how are you doing without your meds??? God Bless and forgive

>me.. Peggy

>

>

>

> on 5/10/06 8:28 AM, janne5303 at joycedalton29@... wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi Gang,

>

> I was just reading through my insurance book and came across

>these words to physicians. 'physicians may recieve additional

>payments based on thier performance.....criteria may

>include.....appropriate use of medical services'. So, less testing,

>prescriptions for equipment or expensive meds....could result in big

>fat bonus checks for the doc! Is this what it means?

>

> , what can you find online? Any exposure being given to

>this?

>

> Joyce PF 1997

>

>

>

>

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Peggy,

I have two more weeks left. Aside from my insurance company not approving the med, I have not gotten a reply from my rheumatologist who has prescribed this for 7 years. I have written to him twice. My voice is so bad, I cannot call. I am so dissapointed in him. He was so good in the beginning. Now he has two nurse practioners who treat patients while he makes $$$$$. Nothing makes me so mad as going to the doc and them sending a nurse in. The office visit cost is the same! I always ask to speak to him. He acts antsy like he doesn't have time, but tuff tooties! He really worked to save my life in early treatment, now he always has his hand on the doorknob! It is not a good time for me to switch docs. Don't know just what to do. My pulmonary doc takes good care of me, though.

Hugs,

Joyce > > > Hi Gang, > > I was just reading through my insurance book and came across these words to> physicians. 'physicians may recieve additional payments based on thier> performance.....criteria may include.....appropriate use of medical> services'. So, less testing, prescriptions for equipment or expensive> meds....could result in big fat bonus checks for the doc! Is this what it> means? > > , what can you find online? Any exposure being given to this?> > Joyce PF 1997 > > > >

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Joyce, Know you said not good time to change drs, but if possible ask pulmonary to suggest a new rheumatolgist. This one sounds like he wants to give up on you. Don't let that happen one disease is as hard as the other.Call ins ask if they pay for 2nd opion(sic). I was suprised mine does with no problem. Only found out when I checked to change drs.Is Not in ins booklelt. May God keep you ipf 7/05janne5303 wrote: Peggy, I have two more weeks left. Aside from my insurance company not approving the med, I have not gotten a reply from my rheumatologist who has prescribed this for 7 years. I have written to him twice. My voice is so bad, I cannot call. I

am so dissapointed in him. He was so good in the beginning. Now he has two nurse practioners who treat patients while he makes $$$$$. Nothing makes me so mad as going to the doc and them sending a nurse in. The office visit cost is the same! I always ask to speak to him. He acts antsy like he doesn't have time, but tuff tooties! He really worked to save my life in early treatment, now he always has his hand on the doorknob! It is not a good time for me to switch docs. Don't know just what to do. My pulmonary doc takes good care of me, though. Hugs, Joyce > > > Hi Gang, > > I was just reading through my insurance book and came across these words to> physicians. 'physicians may recieve additional payments based on thier> performance.....criteria may include.....appropriate use of medical> services'. So, less testing, prescriptions for equipment or expensive> meds....could result in big fat bonus checks for the doc! Is this what it> means? > > , what can you find online? Any exposure being given to this?> > Joyce PF 1997 > > > >

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.... walk in his office, with your attorney in tow. They'll be jumping

like monkeys ....!

Fred

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From: joycedalton29@...

To: Breathe-Support

Subject: RE: Re: Doctors and Insurance

Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 20:54:58 -0000

>

>Peggy,

>

>I have two more weeks left. Aside from my insurance company not

>approving the med, I have not gotten a reply from my rheumatologist

>who

>has prescribed this for 7 years. I have written to him twice. My

>voice

>is so bad, I cannot call. I am so dissapointed in him. He was so

>good

>in the beginning. Now he has two nurse practioners who treat

>patients

>while he makes $$$$$. Nothing makes me so mad as going to the doc

>and

>them sending a nurse in. The office visit cost is the same! I

>always

>ask to speak to him. He acts antsy like he doesn't have time, but

>tuff

>tooties! He really worked to save my life in early treatment, now he

>always has his hand on the doorknob! It is not a good time for me to

>switch docs. Don't know just what to do. My pulmonary doc takes good

>care of me, though.

>

>Hugs,

>

>Joyce

>

>>

>>

>> Hi Gang,

>>

>> I was just reading through my insurance book and came across these

>words to

>> physicians. 'physicians may recieve additional payments based on

>thier

>> performance.....criteria may include.....appropriate use of medical

>> services'. So, less testing, prescriptions for equipment or

>expensive

>> meds....could result in big fat bonus checks for the doc! Is this

>what

>it

>> means?

>>

>> , what can you find online? Any exposure being given to this?

>>

>> Joyce PF 1997

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Joyce, I promise if I were you I would make an appointment. When Doc comes in the room just look at him and say " WE HAVE TO TALK " and hand him a letter with all your questions the block the door and don't let him out until you have your answers. Or maybe on the top of your letter put in large letters " I'm not leaving your office until we talk " I figure we have to much to loose not to get what we need.. Go get'em girl. Be sure to take a big tank so they know your there for the day..

Be sure you ask where his compassion went. I really would. Take back up with you.

God be with you, I'll be praying. I am so worried about you not getting your meds. Peggy 9/04 ipf

on 5/10/06 4:54 PM, janne5303 at joycedalton29@... wrote:

Peggy,

I have two more weeks left. Aside from my insurance company not approving the med, I have not gotten a reply from my rheumatologist who has prescribed this for 7 years. I have written to him twice. My voice is so bad, I cannot call. I am so dissapointed in him. He was so good in the beginning. Now he has two nurse practioners who treat patients while he makes $$$$$. Nothing makes me so mad as going to the doc and them sending a nurse in. The office visit cost is the same! I always ask to speak to him. He acts antsy like he doesn't have time, but tuff tooties! He really worked to save my life in early treatment, now he always has his hand on the doorknob! It is not a good time for me to switch docs. Don't know just what to do. My pulmonary doc takes good care of me, though.

Hugs,

Joyce

>

>

> Hi Gang,

>

> I was just reading through my insurance book and came across these words to

> physicians. 'physicians may recieve additional payments based on thier

> performance.....criteria may include.....appropriate use of medical

> services'. So, less testing, prescriptions for equipment or expensive

> meds....could result in big fat bonus checks for

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You go Ginger, Maybe we should meet and go with Joyce to her DR. I'll bet he would listen then.. LOL " I just got a visual " you said it so well.. AMEM. Peggy 9/06 ipf

on 5/10/06 6:00 PM, TongueDancer2U@... at TongueDancer2U@... wrote:

Know you said not good time to change drs, but if possible ask pulmonary to suggest a new rheumatolgist

Joy~ce,

If you change Drs. be sure the new physician has a copy of everything medically from the past on you. I had to get a new primary Dr. last November I believe it was. I made sure he had a copy of everything I had been through. I looked him in the eye and told him I hope he would take the time to look over my case and make himself familiar with what was going on with me. That way, he could work with my Pulmonary, and Rheumatology Drs. for the very best care that the three of them could give me with the disease I have. I feel sometimes we have to take an assertiveness, regarding *US* toward these professionals. We are paying for a service, whether outrite cash or through the high insurance premiums we pay. I told this primary Dr. that if he did not want to be my Dr., or take me on as his patient and work actively with the other Drs., to please, be upfront and tell me so. I said that I was aware that possibly he had all the patients he needed to keep his office and profession busy. But to just be honest with me, as this is my life and the quality therin. He was taken back a bit, but agreed to take me on as a his patient. I reminded him that it was I that chose him and that this was " his " interview.....lol.

BTW, you might remind the Rheumatologist, of the fact that, " He really worked to save my life in early treatment, and as you see it, now he always has his hand on the doorknob. "

kiss kiss,

~Ginger~

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Safety in numbers, and I'd be in the very BEST company, lol...ready to go. (with cattle prod in hand, just to get his attention!)

kiss kiss,

~Ginger

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I haven't heard it...will look for it. Sher

Re: Doctors and Insurance>>> Boy, I hope God will forgive the feelings I have about Insurance>Company's, Dr's that cheat their patients so they get the all mighty>dollar. It's just so wrong. I do know it's all being recorded in some>ones book. > Joyce how are you doing without your meds??? God Bless and forgive>me.. Peggy>>>> on 5/10/06 8:28 AM, janne5303 at joycedalton29@... wrote:>>>> Hi Gang, >> I was just reading through my insurance book and came across>these words to physicians. 'physicians may recieve additional>payments based on thier performance.....criteria may>include.....appropriate use of medical services'. So, less testing,>prescriptions for equipment or expensive meds....could result in big>fat bonus checks for the doc! Is this what it means? >> , what can you find online? Any exposure being given to>this? >> Joyce PF 1997 >>>>

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Thanks Ginger, I needed that pep talk. When I get back from the evaluation, I will take care of this. I am not happy!

Joyce >> > > > Know you said not good time to change drs, but if possible ask pulmonary to > suggest a new rheumatolgist> > > Joy~ce,> If you change Drs. be sure the new physician has a copy of everything > medically from the past on you. I had to get a new primary Dr. last November I > believe it was. I made sure he had a copy of everything I had been through. > I looked him in the eye and told him I hope he would take the time to look > over my case and make himself familiar with what was going on with me. That > way, he could work with my Pulmonary, and Rheumatology Drs. for the very best > care that the three of them could give me with the disease I have. I feel > sometimes we have to take an assertiveness, regarding *US* toward these > professionals. We are paying for a service, whether outrite cash or through the high > insurance premiums we pay. I told this primary Dr. that if he did not want to > be my Dr., or take me on as his patient and work actively with the other Drs., > to please, be upfront and tell me so. I said that I was aware that possibly > he had all the patients he needed to keep his office and profession busy. But > to just be honest with me, as this is my life and the quality therin. He was > taken back a bit, but agreed to take me on as a his patient. I reminded him > that it was I that chose him and that this was "his" interview.....lol.> BTW, you might remind the Rheumatologist, of the fact that,"He really > worked to save my life in early treatment, and as you see it, now he always has > his hand on the doorknob."> kiss kiss,> ~Ginger~>

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Peggy,

Be sure to take a big tank so they know your there for the day.. you guys are good for me. This is sooo funny! The last time I saw this doc his pants were unzipped. I didn't remember anything I needed to ask him. Sooo funny! I should have said, 'hey doc, did you know your barn door is open'.....that may have brought him down from his golden perch.

Joyce

> > > > > > Hi Gang, > > > > I was just reading through my insurance book and came across these words to> > physicians. 'physicians may recieve additional payments based on thier> > performance.....criteria may include.....appropriate use of medical> > services'. So, less testing, prescriptions for equipment or expensive> > meds....could result in big fat bonus checks for> >

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Ahhhh well, if it can't get up it can't get out so not to worry! Sher

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Peggy,

Be sure to take a big tank so they know your there for the day.. you guys are good for me. This is sooo funny! The last time I saw this doc his pants were unzipped. I didn't remember anything I needed to ask him. Sooo funny! I should have said, 'hey doc, did you know your barn door is open'.....that may have brought him down from his golden perch.

Joyce

> > > > > > Hi Gang, > > > > I was just reading through my insurance book and came across these words to> > physicians. 'physicians may recieve additional payments based on thier> > performance.....criteria may include.....appropriate use of medical> > services'. So, less testing, prescriptions for equipment or expensive> > meds....could result in big fat bonus checks for> >

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.... he probably thought he was WORKING like a mule so, he thought

he'd LOOK like one!

Fred

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From: joycedalton29@...

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Subject: RE: Re: Doctors and Insurance

Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 01:28:11 -0000

>

>Peggy,

>

>Be sure to take a big tank so they know your there for the day.. you

>guys are good for me. This is sooo funny! The last time I saw this

>doc

>his pants were unzipped. I didn't remember anything I needed to ask

>him. Sooo funny! I should have said, 'hey doc, did you know your

>barn

>door is open'.....that may have brought him down from his golden

>perch.

>

>Joyce

>

>

>

>> >

>> >

>> > Hi Gang,

>> >

>> > I was just reading through my insurance book and came across

>these

>words to

>> > physicians. 'physicians may recieve additional payments based on

>thier

>> > performance.....criteria may include.....appropriate use of

>medical

>> > services'. So, less testing, prescriptions for equipment or

>expensive

>> > meds....could result in big fat bonus checks for

>>

>>

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Oh Joyce I could NEVER have passed that up... LOL LOL LOL Peggy

on 5/10/06 9:28 PM, janne5303 at joycedalton29@... wrote:

Peggy,

Be sure to take a big tank so they know your there for the day.. you guys are good for me. This is sooo funny! The last time I saw this doc his pants were unzipped. I didn't remember anything I needed to ask him. Sooo funny! I should have said, 'hey doc, did you know your barn door is open'.....that may have brought him down from his golden perch.

Joyce

>

>

> Peggy,

>

> I have two more we

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Sher, You are bad, but very funny Peggy 9/04

on 5/10/06 9:54 PM, Sher K Bauman at bofus@... wrote:

Ahhhh well, if it can't get up it can't get out so not to worry! Sher

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Peggy,

Be sure to take a big tank so they know your there for the day.. you guys are good for me. This is sooo funny! The last time I saw this doc his pants were unzipped. I didn't remember anything I needed to ask him. Sooo funny! I should have said, 'hey doc, did you know your barn door is open'.....that may have brought him down from his golden perch.

Joyce

> >

> >

> > Hi Gang,

> >

> > I was just reading through my insurance book and came across these words to

> > physicians. 'physicians may recieve additional payments based on thier

> > performance.....criteria may include.....appropriate use of medical

> > services'. So, less testing, prescriptions for equipment or expensive

> > meds....could result in big fat bonus checks for

>

>

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with the zipper thing goin on we may need a stun gun. You know that would be fun.

on 5/10/06 11:05 PM, TongueDancer2U@... at TongueDancer2U@... wrote:

Safety in numbers, and I'd be in the very BEST company, lol...ready to go. (with cattle prod in hand, just to get his attention!)

kiss kiss,

~Ginger

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Thanks...I think! Finding this board and sharing with all of you has returned my sense of humor. I've been pretty low as I went through testing and dx and then confirmation of ipf. As I read your trust in God I am reminded of my own trust. God bless. Sher 5-06

Re: Doctors and InsurancePeggy, Be sure to take a big tank so they know your there for the day.. you guys are good for me. This is sooo funny! The last time I saw this doc his pants were unzipped. I didn't remember anything I needed to ask him. Sooo funny! I should have said, 'hey doc, did you know your barn door is open'.....that may have brought him down from his golden perch. Joyce > > > > > > Hi Gang, > > > > I was just reading through my insurance book and came across these words to> > physicians. 'physicians may recieve additional payments based on thier> > performance.....criteria may include.....appropriate use of medical> > services'. So, less testing, prescriptions for equipment or expensive> > meds....could result in big fat bonus checks for> >

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Oh no it's so much more fun!!!

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Ginger,Is the cattle prod like a stun gun???Humoursly,Bob in UtahCaregiver for Joan IPF 08/04

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Peggy and Sher,

You guys are BAAAAD....but I love you!!!

Joyce > > Safety in numbers, and I'd be in the very BEST company, lol...ready to go.> (with cattle prod in hand, just to get his attention!)> kiss kiss, > ~Ginger> > >

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Oh Yeah, It'll do the job quite nicely..

on 5/11/06 6:00 PM, TongueDancer2U@... at TongueDancer2U@... wrote:

Is the cattle prod like a stun gun???

Let's just say it STUNS whatever it PRODS!*!*!*!*!*!

'nuf said....lol

kiss kiss,

~Ginger~

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