Re: Red (was: Autistic Man Killed by Suburban Police)

[Guest guest]

Hi all

I'm new and did a fairly general intro but haven't

really said much since. Also, I don't want to be

thought of as a troll... so is there anything I should

say about myself, or my experiences or anything else

right now?

Serena

--- Jane Meyerding wrote:

> Clay wrote:

> >Like a troll, he has never given any information

> about himself,

> >any kind of name, (it was me who first referred to

> him as " Red " ),

> >what he does for a living, (one could assume from

> his screen-name

> >that he is some kind of computer tech, like

> )....

>

> I don't see Red's email address anywhere in the

> TreeHouse members'

> list. Maybe I was scanning too quickly...?

>

> Jane

> (trudging back now to vacuum more bears)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi all

I'm new and did a fairly general intro but haven't

really said much since. Also, I don't want to be

thought of as a troll... so is there anything I should

say about myself, or my experiences or anything else

right now?

Serena

--- Jane Meyerding wrote:

> Clay wrote:

> >Like a troll, he has never given any information

> about himself,

> >any kind of name, (it was me who first referred to

> him as " Red " ),

> >what he does for a living, (one could assume from

> his screen-name

> >that he is some kind of computer tech, like

> )....

>

> I don't see Red's email address anywhere in the

> TreeHouse members'

> list. Maybe I was scanning too quickly...?

>

> Jane

> (trudging back now to vacuum more bears)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I'm new and did a fairly general intro but haven't really said much

> since. Also, I don't want to be thought of as a troll... so is

> there anything I should say about myself, or my experiences or

> anything else right now?

Well, for starters, IMO, the fact that you've said this is more than

adequate demonstration that you're not a troll, so I wouldn't worry

about it if I were you. :-)

More seriously, though... you generally have to be pretty rude to a

fair number of people over a pretty good period of time before you

garner a reputation as a troll. If you're generally civil, you'll

almost always be fine.

--Parrish

[Guest guest]

Oh Goody... does that mean if I get snarky once or

twice I'm okay? I mean screw the possibility of

Aspergers there are about five days a month where I

can be snarky and really really really not mean it...

but I'd hate not to post those days at all.

Serena

--- " Parrish S. Knight "

wrote:

>

> > I'm new and did a fairly general intro but haven't

> really said much

> > since. Also, I don't want to be thought of as a

> troll... so is

> > there anything I should say about myself, or my

> experiences or

> > anything else right now?

>

> Well, for starters, IMO, the fact that you've said

> this is more than

> adequate demonstration that you're not a troll, so I

> wouldn't worry

> about it if I were you. :-)

>

> More seriously, though... you generally have to be

> pretty rude to a

> fair number of people over a pretty good period of

> time before you

> garner a reputation as a troll. If you're generally

> civil, you'll

> almost always be fine.

>

> --Parrish

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Oh Goody... does that mean if I get snarky once or twice I'm okay?

Yes, most likely... a lot of people are like that.

> I mean screw the possibility of Aspergers there are about five days

> a month where I can be snarky and really really really not mean

> it... but I'd hate not to post those days at all.

Again, a lot of people are like that. (Just be ready to be " snarked "

in return... ;-) It's certainly happened to me.)

--Parrish

[Guest guest]

I often don't post anything at all because I am absolutely terrified that

Red will rip anything I might say to shreds. I feel like I have had enough mean

things said to and about me and I don't need to get that from here.

I used to be one of those people who would spout off about every intelligent

thought I had. Then a very smart NT I knew explained to me that other people

like to feel smart too and I might be better liked if didn't try to convey every

bit of knowledge that might be in my head. He said that I should instead, on

occasion, pretend that I didn't know certain things so that others would have a

chance to feel smart. My problem stemmed from being told by everyone around me

all of my life (dad, peers, teachers) that I was stupid.

Clay wrote:

I don't know if anyone here has been more exasperated with some of

his responses than I have, but I do honestly believe that he is an

aspie, has serious communication problems, over-compensates for low

self-esteem, and doesn't realize that other people perceive this as

him being a somewhat narcissistic butthead. It's a trait that some

of us see at least a glimmer of in the mirror, and so I think we

should try to help him understand it and grow on from there. That's

what I've been trying to do.

Clay

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[Guest guest]

le

I'm the same way... oh gezz am I ever.

I swear being new to knowing some of what i do .. I

really wanna just crawl under something sometimes.

Serena

--- le Hays wrote:

> I often don't post anything at all because I am

> absolutely terrified that Red will rip anything I

> might say to shreds. I feel like I have had enough

> mean things said to and about me and I don't need to

> get that from here.

>

> I used to be one of those people who would spout

> off about every intelligent thought I had. Then a

> very smart NT I knew explained to me that other

> people like to feel smart too and I might be better

> liked if didn't try to convey every bit of knowledge

> that might be in my head. He said that I should

> instead, on occasion, pretend that I didn't know

> certain things so that others would have a chance to

> feel smart. My problem stemmed from being told by

> everyone around me all of my life (dad, peers,

> teachers) that I was stupid.

>

>

> Clay wrote:

>

> I don't know if anyone here has been more

> exasperated with some of

> his responses than I have, but I do honestly believe

> that he is an

> aspie, has serious communication problems,

> over-compensates for low

> self-esteem, and doesn't realize that other people

> perceive this as

> him being a somewhat narcissistic butthead. It's a

> trait that some

> of us see at least a glimmer of in the mirror, and

> so I think we

> should try to help him understand it and grow on

> from there. That's

> what I've been trying to do.

>

> Clay

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

> I often don't post anything at all because I am absolutely

> terrified that Red will rip anything I might say to shreds. I feel

> like I have had enough mean things said to and about me and I don't

> need to get that from here.

You're not the first person to feel that way, which is why I'm

finally " cracking down " on the situation. As I said, I hate having

to do that, but sometimes it's necessary. I've been putting off

dealing with it for much too long. I don't want anyone on the

Treehouse to feel that they should have to stifle themselves for fear

that someone is going to rudely tell them off for whatever they've said.

--Parrish

[Guest guest]

> I often don't post anything at all because I am absolutely

> terrified that Red will rip anything I might say to shreds. I feel

> like I have had enough mean things said to and about me and I don't

> need to get that from here.

I've experienced that too, with Red. At this point I usually tend to

write off the comments because they're clearly not intended as

reasonable disagreement. But (although this may give him too much

satisfaction) there was one point in time when I was nearly ready to

bash in my monitor over some of his comments, before I realized they

were *trying* to hit sore spots.

[Guest guest]

I'm trying to learn to ignore illintentioned people. ; )

alfamanda wrote:

>I've experienced that too, with Red. At this point I usually tend to

>write off the comments because they're clearly not intended as

>reasonable disagreement. But (although this may give him too much

>satisfaction) there was one point in time when I was nearly ready to

>bash in my monitor over some of his comments, before I realized they

>were *trying* to hit sore spots.