Re: I started a huge forest fire, blazing as I type

[Guest guest]

Thank you

I love your trusting nature

I had the same experience

When I was younger I burned the forest of Jerusalem.

I went with me neighbor to do a small bonfire

I was not allowed to use matches cause I was too young for that

But I was not the kind of girl who obey rules.

One thing lead to another

And before you know it

The fire went out of our control.

So, I did the best I could:

Ran back home, and watch threw the window

How the Fire brigade overcome the flames

to make a long story short:

All the forest went down

I was too scared to admit to my mom that I did it

I did admitted that 20 years later

When I was sure I wouldn't get punished

I did the best I could

With the awareness I had back than

Today, I might have admit it sooner

Or not???

Love, T

> I went camping for six days. Intent was for it to be a

> spiritual/introspective/soul searching time. Did about 25

> worksheets, along with another workbook on sexuality and money.

Was

> a long way from main trail, felt comfortable getting naked. Wore

no

> clothes except boots for five days. Found a very sweet spot by a

> stream, lay on towel, cool breezes, butterflies, inch worms.

Heaven.

>

> The morning I was leaving, I burned the worksheets and some other

> papers. I felt certain I had put the fire out adequately.

>

> Put on my pack, and hiked down mountain, feeling oh so good. Had

no

> idea where next I would live/work, but was just very into a big

YES

> for what next would be my path.

>

> I did not know my YES was about to be so tested.

>

> I guess the fire was smoldering underground, and, well to make a

> long story shorter, a fire broke out.

>

> At this time it has been declared a state emergency. The local

paper

> said the governor has okay'd at least 8.5 million dollars to fight

> it. This fire started about 5 miles from the beloved remote small

> town of Stehekin, WA, where I lived/worked three months just

before

> my camping trip. And where I've lived a few times before,

including

> a two year period about five years ago.

>

> I immediately (well almost, I did go off trail for awhile to calm

> down, and thought about running and hiding out, and denying being

at

> fault), went to the ranger station upon returning to Stehekin, and

> let them know I was responsible. By then planes had been flying

> over the area, so the fire was known.

>

> Over the next three days I was interviewed by park and county law

> enforcement officers, who both read me my Miranda rights. Also by

a

> fire investigator.

>

> They have decided to press charges, and I'll be going to court

about

> this in a month or two.

>

> The fire has been moving towards Stehekin. Unfortunately there are

> other fires around that area in Washington, as well as some other

> major ones in Oregon and California. So resources are limited.

>

> Stehekin might burn up. There are about 100 year round residents

> there, most of whom I know. Word got out while I was still there

and

> it's my understanding nearly everyone knows I started it.

>

> Before I left I met with about six valley residents, and told them

I

> was responsible and very sorry. I got such loving responses, such

as

> the one guy who said, ', there but for the grace of God go I.'

> And 'Oh, that's too bad.' I plan on returning to Stehekin (if it

> doesn't burn up) and holding a meeting in the community center,

> where I will apologize to everyone, and allow them to voice their

> thoughts, feelings, rage, whatever the feel like doing.

>

> Many of the people in the valley rely on visitors for their income.

>

> would not see any problem with any of this. Some of the time

I

> don't either. But now and then fear-based thoughts arise. Often I

> investigate them, rather than let them grow. Sometimes I feel like

> dancing. Not because of the fire, but because I feel a lightness,

> joy, freedom. Sometimes I let myself dance. Sometimes guilt tells

> me it's wrong to feel that way.

>

> This morning I came across the saying, 'If you knew you could not

> fail, what would you attempt?' My first thought was 'Make this

all

> go away.' But that didn't feel right, and I realized no, my answer

> to that question was 'Love.'

>

> Love life. Love what is. Love life and you will live abundantly. I

> think it says something like that in the bible.

>

> It makes soooo much sense. If I don't love life, I'm pushing it

> away, shutting down from it. And then I won't experience life. I

> will be lifeless. Dead.

>

> I keep saying yes. The town might burn down. Fire fighters might

get

> hurt or killed. Townsfolk might hunt me down and string me up. I

say

> yes. Yes to it all. Yes to my future court appearances. Yes to

> what the judge decides. Yes. Yes. Yes.

>

> While still in the area, I came across another saying -

>

> People are like stained glass windows. When the suns out, they

> sparkle and shine. But when darkness comes, it is the inner light

> which brings out their true beauty.

>

> Darkness, in a sense, is my world right now. And yet some inner

> light is shining so much, it lights up the world around me in a

new

> way.

>

> I should not have burned those papers. asks me, 'Where is

your

> proof?'

> It's bad that there is a fire. 'Where is your proof?'

> I am bad. Irresponsible. Awful. 'Where is your proof?'

> I will never forgive myself. Others will never forgive me. 'Where

is

> your proof?'

>

> Two nights after the fire started, I walked down to the lakeshore,

> and looked downlake. The mountainsides looked like soft black

> velvet. There were tiny, red, glowing spots. It was beautiful.

> The lake is the third deepest lake in the u.s. Very cold due to

the

> depth and being fed by glacier melt. A person would die of

> hypothermia in a short while. Yet still, the lake is beautiful.

>

> I look at the tally board, where my problems are tallied. It still

> reads zero.

>

> I love what is. Reality. Life.

>

> I say 'yes'

>

[Guest guest]

,

Thank you for sharing this powerful Work.

That scenario could be my worst nightmare (and so ironic that it

happened at the end of your introspective retreat), and you have

transformed it so beautifully. Thinking of you.

Love,

Karin

>

> I went camping for six days. Intent was for it to be a

> spiritual/introspective/soul searching time. Did about 25

> worksheets, along with another workbook on sexuality and money. Was

> a long way from main trail, felt comfortable getting naked. Wore no

> clothes except boots for five days. Found a very sweet spot by a

> stream, lay on towel, cool breezes, butterflies, inch worms. Heaven.

>

> The morning I was leaving, I burned the worksheets and some other

> papers. I felt certain I had put the fire out adequately.

>

> Put on my pack, and hiked down mountain, feeling oh so good. Had no

> idea where next I would live/work, but was just very into a big YES

> for what next would be my path.

>

> I did not know my YES was about to be so tested.

>

> I guess the fire was smoldering underground, and, well to make a

> long story shorter, a fire broke out.

>

> At this time it has been declared a state emergency. The local

paper

> said the governor has okay'd at least 8.5 million dollars to fight

> it. This fire started about 5 miles from the beloved remote small

> town of Stehekin, WA, where I lived/worked three months just before

> my camping trip. And where I've lived a few times before, including

> a two year period about five years ago.

>

> I immediately (well almost, I did go off trail for awhile to calm

> down, and thought about running and hiding out, and denying being

at

> fault), went to the ranger station upon returning to Stehekin, and

> let them know I was responsible. By then planes had been flying

> over the area, so the fire was known.

>

> Over the next three days I was interviewed by park and county law

> enforcement officers, who both read me my miranda rights. Also by a

> fire investigator.

>

> They have decided to press charges, and I'll be going to court

about

> this in a month or two.

>

> The fire has been moving towards Stehekin. Unfortunately there are

> other fires around that area in Washington, as well as some other

> major ones in Oregon and California. So resources are limited.

>

> Stehekin might burn up. There are about 100 year round residents

> there, most of whom I know. Word got out while I was still there

and

> it's my understanding nearly everyone knows I started it.

>

> Before I left I met with about six valley residents, and told them

I

> was responsible and very sorry. I got such loving responses, such

as

> the one guy who said, ', there but for the grace of God go I.'

> And 'Oh, that's too bad.' I plan on returning to Stehekin (if it

> doesn't burn up) and holding a meeting in the community center,

> where I will apologize to everyone, and allow them to voice their

> thoughts, feelings, rage, whatever the feel like doing.

>

> Many of the people in the valley rely on visitors for their income.

>

> would not see any problem with any of this. Some of the time

I

> don't either. But now and then fear-based thoughts arise. Often I

> investigate them, rather than let them grow. Sometimes I feel like

> dancing. Not because of the fire, but because I feel a lightness,

> joy, freedom. Sometimes I let myself dance. Sometimes guilt tells

> me it's wrong to feel that way.

>

> This morning I came across the saying, 'If you knew you could not

> fail, what would you attempt?' My first thought was 'Make this all

> go away.' But that didn't feel right, and I realized no, my answer

> to that question was 'Love.'

>

> Love life. Love what is. Love life and you will live abundantly. I

> think it says something like that in the bible.

>

> It makes soooo much sense. If I don't love life, I'm pushing it

> away, shutting down from it. And then I won't experience life. I

> will be lifeless. Dead.

>

> I keep saying yes. The town might burn down. Fire fighters might

get

> hurt or killed. Townsfolk might hunt me down and string me up. I

say

> yes. Yes to it all. Yes to my future court appearances. Yes to

> what the judge decides. Yes. Yes. Yes.

>

> While still in the area, I came across another saying -

>

> People are like stained glass windows. When the suns out, they

> sparkle and shine. But when darkness comes, it is the inner light

> which brings out their true beauty.

>

> Darkness, in a sense, is my world right now. And yet some inner

> light is shining so much, it lights up the world around me in a new

> way.

>

> I should not have burned those papers. asks me, 'Where is

your

> proof?'

> It's bad that there is a fire. 'Where is your proof?'

> I am bad. Irresponsible. Awful. 'Where is your proof?'

> I will never forgive myself. Others will never forgive me. 'Where

is

> your proof?'

>

> Two nights after the fire started, I walked down to the lakeshore,

> and looked downlake. The mountainsides looked like soft black

> velvet. There were tiny, red, glowing spots. It was beautiful.

> The lake is the third deepest lake in the u.s. Very cold due to the

> depth and being fed by glacier melt. A person would die of

> hypothermia in a short while. Yet still, the lake is beautiful.

>

> I look at the tally board, where my problems are tallied. It still

> reads zero.

>

> I love what is. Reality. Life.

>

> I say 'yes'

>

[Guest guest]

Dear :

I feel proud and very happy to be

living in a country where you have

opportunity, time, space and freedom to

openly participate on an email forum in

spite of the big accident that happened

to you, the forest, wild animals, the

town and the people around it!

The second bright spot for me is the

lesson that I can learn through it.

The third bright spot is that possibly

you or someone can use this as an

opportunity to educate others and

spread awareness about the hazards of

fire in a forest, extreme care that it

requires, devastation that it can cause

and means to prevent it. I think it can

inspire someone like you or somebody

else to devote part of her/his life for

this noble mission and this way this

" accident " can serve a greater good by

possibly preventing many other

" accidents " like this in the future.

The Sexy spot in this is:

- Imagining you walking naked

[with only your boots on] in the

jingle:) I just can't get that

" picture " out of my head - not that I

want to I find it even sexier that

it was the part of your " idea " of

" heaven " ! I can't wait to arrive on

such a camping trip

Greeting and thanks for sharing your

work!

Regards,

ac.

[NNB]

>

> I went camping for six days. Intent was for it to be a

> spiritual/introspective/soul searching time. Did about 25

> worksheets, along with another workbook on sexuality and money.

Was

> a long way from main trail, felt comfortable getting naked. Wore

no

> clothes except boots for five days. Found a very sweet spot by a

> stream, lay on towel, cool breezes, butterflies, inch worms.

Heaven.

>

> The morning I was leaving, I burned the worksheets and some other

> papers. I felt certain I had put the fire out adequately.

>

> Put on my pack, and hiked down mountain, feeling oh so good. Had

no

> idea where next I would live/work, but was just very into a big

YES

> for what next would be my path.

>

> I did not know my YES was about to be so tested.

>

> I guess the fire was smoldering underground, and, well to make a

> long story shorter, a fire broke out.

>

> At this time it has been declared a state emergency. The local

paper

> said the governor has okay'd at least 8.5 million dollars to fight

> it. This fire started about 5 miles from the beloved remote small

> town of Stehekin, WA, where I lived/worked three months just

before

> my camping trip. And where I've lived a few times before,

including

> a two year period about five years ago.

>

> I immediately (well almost, I did go off trail for awhile to calm

> down, and thought about running and hiding out, and denying being

at

> fault), went to the ranger station upon returning to Stehekin, and

> let them know I was responsible. By then planes had been flying

> over the area, so the fire was known.

>

> Over the next three days I was interviewed by park and county law

> enforcement officers, who both read me my miranda rights. Also by

a

> fire investigator.

>

> They have decided to press charges, and I'll be going to court

about

> this in a month or two.

>

> The fire has been moving towards Stehekin. Unfortunately there are

> other fires around that area in Washington, as well as some other

> major ones in Oregon and California. So resources are limited.

>

> Stehekin might burn up. There are about 100 year round residents

> there, most of whom I know. Word got out while I was still there

and

> it's my understanding nearly everyone knows I started it.

>

> Before I left I met with about six valley residents, and told them

I

> was responsible and very sorry. I got such loving responses, such

as

> the one guy who said, ', there but for the grace of God go I.'

> And 'Oh, that's too bad.' I plan on returning to Stehekin (if it

> doesn't burn up) and holding a meeting in the community center,

> where I will apologize to everyone, and allow them to voice their

> thoughts, feelings, rage, whatever the feel like doing.

>

> Many of the people in the valley rely on visitors for their income.

>

> would not see any problem with any of this. Some of the time

I

> don't either. But now and then fear-based thoughts arise. Often I

> investigate them, rather than let them grow. Sometimes I feel like

> dancing. Not because of the fire, but because I feel a lightness,

> joy, freedom. Sometimes I let myself dance. Sometimes guilt tells

> me it's wrong to feel that way.

>

> This morning I came across the saying, 'If you knew you could not

> fail, what would you attempt?' My first thought was 'Make this

all

> go away.' But that didn't feel right, and I realized no, my answer

> to that question was 'Love.'

>

> Love life. Love what is. Love life and you will live abundantly. I

> think it says something like that in the bible.

>

> It makes soooo much sense. If I don't love life, I'm pushing it

> away, shutting down from it. And then I won't experience life. I

> will be lifeless. Dead.

>

> I keep saying yes. The town might burn down. Fire fighters might

get

> hurt or killed. Townsfolk might hunt me down and string me up. I

say

> yes. Yes to it all. Yes to my future court appearances. Yes to

> what the judge decides. Yes. Yes. Yes.

>

> While still in the area, I came across another saying -

>

> People are like stained glass windows. When the suns out, they

> sparkle and shine. But when darkness comes, it is the inner light

> which brings out their true beauty.

>

> Darkness, in a sense, is my world right now. And yet some inner

> light is shining so much, it lights up the world around me in a

new

> way.

>

> I should not have burned those papers. asks me, 'Where is

your

> proof?'

> It's bad that there is a fire. 'Where is your proof?'

> I am bad. Irresponsible. Awful. 'Where is your proof?'

> I will never forgive myself. Others will never forgive me. 'Where

is

> your proof?'

>

> Two nights after the fire started, I walked down to the lakeshore,

> and looked downlake. The mountainsides looked like soft black

> velvet. There were tiny, red, glowing spots. It was beautiful.

> The lake is the third deepest lake in the u.s. Very cold due to

the

> depth and being fed by glacier melt. A person would die of

> hypothermia in a short while. Yet still, the lake is beautiful.

>

> I look at the tally board, where my problems are tallied. It still

> reads zero.

>

> I love what is. Reality. Life.

>

> I say 'yes'

>

[Guest guest]

>

> The third bright spot is that possibly

> you or someone can use this as an

> opportunity to educate others and

> spread awareness about the hazards of

> fire in a forest, extreme care that it

> requires, devastation that it can cause

> and means to prevent it. I think it can

> inspire someone like you or somebody

> else to devote part of her/his life for

> this noble mission and this way this

> " accident " can serve a greater good by

> possibly preventing many other

> " accidents " like this in the future.

>

Adithya I like a good story as much as the next person, but I don't

think that has any real proof that she started the fire. For

all she/we know the fire really started because of a freak lightning

strike in the general area where camped. Apparently she buried

her fire, but maybe the reason it came back to life was because some

forest animal was digging in area and accidently unearthed some

embers. Nothing to do with at all. The ONLY way we could know

for sure that started the fire is if she emptied a can of

petrol in the forest and deliberately put a match to it. Anything

else is just speculation. Any good attorney should be able to get

off on the charges which have been laid, because there are

numerous other reasonable explanations for the fire other than

's actions. If had questioned her story about her being

responsible for the fire in the first place, the whole unfortunate

train of events that she set in motion may have been avoided.

Just some thoughts

" There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

Byron

[Guest guest]

> But I was not the kind of girl who obey rules.

>

Yes Tami, I would agree with that

Breaking the rules can be fun when you are a teenager, but most grow

out of it when they become a little older and wiser. They come to

see that rules are there for a very good purpose.

" Thoughts about your wants and needs can be very bossy. If you

believe them, you feel you have to do what they say—you have to get

people's love and approval. There is another way to respond to a

thought, and that is to question it. How can you question your wants

and needs? How can you meet your thoughts without believing them?

I meet my thoughts the way I would meet my husband or my children:

with understanding. " Byron

[Guest guest]

Dear lovethework

Lets talk about rules.

You said:

" rules are there for a very good purpose " .

And I take it as you think that rules should be obeyed

So before I obey the rule

Let me examine first what a rule is.

There is reality, what is.

And than-

There are rules.

For me a rule is our way to try to make what is " better "

If you want,

To " protect " us, from a future " bad " outcome

People who set the rule

Do it for a reason (as you said).

They have there preferenses, that they want to force on what is

(and I am not judging them, I do it too, sometimes)

Lets take a look.

There is a traffic rule:

When the traffic light is red, you SHOULD not cross! STOP :-)

Ok,

People didn't just set this rule

It was for a reason (every rule has a reason!):

To try to potect us from car accidents.

And by that reduce chances to death.

So, if you want to live, you better obey this rule

However, if I try to put the work into action here

So...

Until you don't see death and life equal, your work is not done.

And it doesn't mean to cross in red light!!!

It is an invitetion to qustion your fears

Fear of death

And some people don't want to go there

So they just obey the rule

That is ok too!

But no rule can ever protect you

From your own thinking!

So you can only cross in green lights

And you live a living heal cause your thoughts

Scares you from a bad outcome of death.

And, on top of that

A car hits you, while you crossed in green light

Life sucks

And again, I am not saying not to obey the rule!

I am saying to do the work

On the worst that can happen

So, for me, the way to live is to live my integrity

Sometimes my integrity resonates with society rules

Sometimes not.

And than,

I look forward to be punished or not

By people who believe that the rule is the best way to live

Sometimes I set myself my own rules

That I believe that I will benefit from them.

Like:

Not to write more than 4 mails to a week.

That is my rule

Every rule is there for a reason

And my reason to have this rule is:

I want him to miss me. Simple.

So I try to live by my stupid rule

What will happen if I will write more than 4 e-mails???

My belief system that set this rules at the first place

Will tell me: NOW, he will not miss you

AND CAN I REALLY KNOW THAT IT IS TRUE?

After all I am not god, I am just playing god

Pretending to KNOW things

AND again, the worst that can happen, is just a thought.

" doesn't miss me " - it is a thought

I hope I was clear.

And I welcome you back to this group

Personally I was hopping that you will come back here

You make me think... So thank you for that

Love, T

-- Re: I started a huge forest fire, blazing as I

type

> But I was not the kind of girl who obey rules.

>

Yes Tami, I would agree with that

Breaking the rules can be fun when you are a teenager, but most grow

out of it when they become a little older and wiser. They come to

see that rules are there for a very good purpose.

" Thoughts about your wants and needs can be very bossy. If you

believe them, you feel you have to do what they say—you have to get

people's love and approval. There is another way to respond to a

thought, and that is to question it. How can you question your wants

and needs? How can you meet your thoughts without believing them?

I meet my thoughts the way I would meet my husband or my children:

with understanding. " Byron

[Guest guest]

Love didn't mean that should not take responsibility for her

actions

Cause no one saw her

I believe he meant that

There is a slight chance that didn't cause the fire

At the first place.

After all she was not there to witness the cause of her actions

Sure she did a bonfire

And sure the fire was burn

But can we know for sure that she was the one responsible?

Maybe there was someone else out there

Throwing a burning cigarette

I believe It is called in:

Reasonable doubt.

OFF TOPIC NOTE TO ALEX:

I am going to call you tonight

Stay home and answer the phone

If you don't want to talk - don't answer!

Thank you, T

> Dear , dear Love,

>

> > Adithya I like a good story as much as the next person, but I

don't

> > think that has any real proof that she started the fire.

> Enough proof for her, it seems.

>

> > For

> > all she/we know the fire really started because of a freak

lightning

> > strike in the general area where camped. Apparently she

buried

> > her fire, but maybe the reason it came back to life was because

some

> > forest animal was digging in area and accidently unearthed some

> > embers. Nothing to do with at all. The ONLY way we could

know

> > for sure that started the fire is if she emptied a can of

> > petrol in the forest and deliberately put a match to it.

> I understand. So if someone does something accidentally, and

there

> is no one to watch, you can never have a proof he did it, in the

> first place? But that doesn't really matter, either. We may all

> understand that she didn't burn down the whole forest on purpose.

I

> didn't hear anyone saying that.

>

> > Anything

> > else is just speculation. Any good attorney should be able to get

> > off on the charges which have been laid, because there are

> > numerous other reasonable explanations for the fire other than

> > 's actions.

>

> > If had questioned her story about her being

> > responsible for the fire in the first place, the whole

unfortunate

> > train of events that she set in motion may have been avoided.

> Who knows? I never found my investigation to change my doing.

It's

> not necessary. I do what I do. I investigate to become clear

about

> what is your buisness and what is my buisness.

>

> , I don't hear that you are having any issues with who's

fault

> the fire was. It was all yours, you seem to be very clear on

that.

> AND, it seems to work for you. What I also hear is that you stayed

in

> your integrity by telling those you deemed as responsible your

truth.

> Good for you.

>

> > Just some thoughts

> Good! What else could I investigate?

>

> Love,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ___________________________________________________________

> Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo!

Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de

>

[Guest guest]

> I totally agree that rules are concepts. However, for me

> rules are not stressful concepts so I see no need to question them.

> I quite enjoy the concept that I should drive on the approved side

> of the road (left or right depending on your country). I find that

> if I don't obey that rule I either crash my car or the police arrest

> me.

And when you are approaching a ghostrider? Will you stick to the rules

or would you make an exception? There are times that you have to think

for yourself...

Love,

.

[Guest guest]

MAry I am reading tolles book NEw earth..

he says the cosmos is not chaotic the very word cosmos means order..

page 197 and

page 198

J Krishnamurit, the great Indian philosopher spoke for 50 years...

finally , the master would give them the key to understanding.. " This

is my secret, he said. " I dont mind what happens. "

.....it means not to label it mentally as good or bad, but to let it

be.. Does this mean you can no longer take action to bring aobut

change in your life? On the contrary When the basis for your actions

is inner alignment with the present moment, your actions become

empowered by the intelligence of life itself . "

whatever that means.. oh well.. love, roslyn

--

- In Loving-what-is , " Tami " wrote:

>

>

>

> Love didn't mean that should not take responsibility for her

> actions

> Cause no one saw her

>

> I believe he meant that

> There is a slight chance that didn't cause the fire

> At the first place.

>

> After all she was not there to witness the cause of her actions

>

> Sure she did a bonfire

> And sure the fire was burn

> But can we know for sure that she was the one responsible?

>

> Maybe there was someone else out there

> Throwing a burning cigarette

>

> I believe It is called in:

> Reasonable doubt.

>

>

>

>

> OFF TOPIC NOTE TO ALEX:

>

> I am going to call you tonight

> Stay home and answer the phone

>

> If you don't want to talk - don't answer!

>

> Thank you, T

>

>

> > Dear , dear Love,

> >

> > > Adithya I like a good story as much as the next person, but I

> don't

> > > think that has any real proof that she started the fire.

> > Enough proof for her, it seems.

> >

> > > For

> > > all she/we know the fire really started because of a freak

> lightning

> > > strike in the general area where camped. Apparently she

> buried

> > > her fire, but maybe the reason it came back to life was because

> some

> > > forest animal was digging in area and accidently unearthed some

> > > embers. Nothing to do with at all. The ONLY way we could

> know

> > > for sure that started the fire is if she emptied a can of

> > > petrol in the forest and deliberately put a match to it.

> > I understand. So if someone does something accidentally, and

> there

> > is no one to watch, you can never have a proof he did it, in the

> > first place? But that doesn't really matter, either. We may all

> > understand that she didn't burn down the whole forest on purpose.

> I

> > didn't hear anyone saying that.

> >

> > > Anything

> > > else is just speculation. Any good attorney should be able to get

> > > off on the charges which have been laid, because there are

> > > numerous other reasonable explanations for the fire other than

> > > 's actions.

> >

> > > If had questioned her story about her being

> > > responsible for the fire in the first place, the whole

> unfortunate

> > > train of events that she set in motion may have been avoided.

> > Who knows? I never found my investigation to change my doing.

> It's

> > not necessary. I do what I do. I investigate to become clear

> about

> > what is your buisness and what is my buisness.

> >

> > , I don't hear that you are having any issues with who's

> fault

> > the fire was. It was all yours, you seem to be very clear on

> that.

> > AND, it seems to work for you. What I also hear is that you stayed

> in

> > your integrity by telling those you deemed as responsible your

> truth.

> > Good for you.

> >

> > > Just some thoughts

> > Good! What else could I investigate?

> >

> > Love,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ___________________________________________________________

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> Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Tami,

>

>

> Love didn't mean that should not take responsibility for her

> actions

> Cause no one saw her

>

> I believe he meant that

> There is a slight chance that didn't cause the fire

> At the first place.

>

> After all she was not there to witness the cause of her actions

Yes, that's what I heard.

That's his reality.

It seems to work for him.

> Sure she did a bonfire

> And sure the fire was burn

> But can we know for sure that she was the one responsible?

Well, that's her truth.

it seems to work for her.

> Maybe there was someone else out there

> Throwing a burning cigarette

>

> I believe It is called in:

> Reasonable doubt.

And that's the lawyers truth. That works for him!

Love,

> OFF TOPIC NOTE TO ALEX:

>

> I am going to call you tonight

> Stay home and answer the phone

>

> If you don't want to talk - don't answer!

>

> Thank you, T

>

>

>> Dear , dear Love,

>>

>>> Adithya I like a good story as much as the next person, but I

> don't

>>> think that has any real proof that she started the fire.

>> Enough proof for her, it seems.

>>

>>> For

>>> all she/we know the fire really started because of a freak

> lightning

>>> strike in the general area where camped. Apparently she

> buried

>>> her fire, but maybe the reason it came back to life was because

> some

>>> forest animal was digging in area and accidently unearthed some

>>> embers. Nothing to do with at all. The ONLY way we could

> know

>>> for sure that started the fire is if she emptied a can of

>>> petrol in the forest and deliberately put a match to it.

>> I understand. So if someone does something accidentally, and

> there

>> is no one to watch, you can never have a proof he did it, in the

>> first place? But that doesn't really matter, either. We may all

>> understand that she didn't burn down the whole forest on purpose.

> I

>> didn't hear anyone saying that.

>>

>>> Anything

>>> else is just speculation. Any good attorney should be able to get

>>> off on the charges which have been laid, because there are

>>> numerous other reasonable explanations for the fire other than

>>> 's actions.

>>

>>> If had questioned her story about her being

>>> responsible for the fire in the first place, the whole

> unfortunate

>>> train of events that she set in motion may have been avoided.

>> Who knows? I never found my investigation to change my doing.

> It's

>> not necessary. I do what I do. I investigate to become clear

> about

>> what is your buisness and what is my buisness.

>>

>> , I don't hear that you are having any issues with who's

> fault

>> the fire was. It was all yours, you seem to be very clear on

> that.

>> AND, it seems to work for you. What I also hear is that you stayed

> in

>> your integrity by telling those you deemed as responsible your

> truth.

>> Good for you.

>>

>>> Just some thoughts

>> Good! What else could I investigate?

>>

>> Love,

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ___________________________________________________________

>> Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo!

> Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Dear Tami,

>

> >

> >

> > Love didn't mean that should not take responsibility for her

> > actions

> > Cause no one saw her

> >

> > I believe he meant that

> > There is a slight chance that didn't cause the fire

> > At the first place.

> >

> > After all she was not there to witness the cause of her actions

> Yes, that's what I heard.

>

> That's his reality.

>

> It seems to work for him.

>

> > Sure she did a bonfire

> > And sure the fire was burn

> > But can we know for sure that she was the one responsible?

> Well, that's her truth.

I perceive you as a person

who respect other people's path

Thank you for that, T

>

> it seems to work for her.

>

> > Maybe there was someone else out there

> > Throwing a burning cigarette

> >

> > I believe It is called in:

> > Reasonable doubt.

> And that's the lawyers truth. That works for him!

>

> Love,

>

>

> > OFF TOPIC NOTE TO ALEX:

> >

> > I am going to call you tonight

> > Stay home and answer the phone

> >

> > If you don't want to talk - don't answer!

> >

> > Thank you, T

> >

> >

> >> Dear , dear Love,

> >>

> >>> Adithya I like a good story as much as the next person, but I

> > don't

> >>> think that has any real proof that she started the fire.

> >> Enough proof for her, it seems.

> >>

> >>> For

> >>> all she/we know the fire really started because of a freak

> > lightning

> >>> strike in the general area where camped. Apparently she

> > buried

> >>> her fire, but maybe the reason it came back to life was because

> > some

> >>> forest animal was digging in area and accidently unearthed some

> >>> embers. Nothing to do with at all. The ONLY way we could

> > know

> >>> for sure that started the fire is if she emptied a can of

> >>> petrol in the forest and deliberately put a match to it.

> >> I understand. So if someone does something accidentally, and

> > there

> >> is no one to watch, you can never have a proof he did it, in the

> >> first place? But that doesn't really matter, either. We may all

> >> understand that she didn't burn down the whole forest on

purpose.

> > I

> >> didn't hear anyone saying that.

> >>

> >>> Anything

> >>> else is just speculation. Any good attorney should be able to

get

> >>> off on the charges which have been laid, because there are

> >>> numerous other reasonable explanations for the fire other than

> >>> 's actions.

> >>

> >>> If had questioned her story about her being

> >>> responsible for the fire in the first place, the whole

> > unfortunate

> >>> train of events that she set in motion may have been avoided.

> >> Who knows? I never found my investigation to change my doing.

> > It's

> >> not necessary. I do what I do. I investigate to become clear

> > about

> >> what is your buisness and what is my buisness.

> >>

> >> , I don't hear that you are having any issues with who's

> > fault

> >> the fire was. It was all yours, you seem to be very clear on

> > that.

> >> AND, it seems to work for you. What I also hear is that you

stayed

> > in

> >> your integrity by telling those you deemed as responsible your

> > truth.

> >> Good for you.

> >>

> >>> Just some thoughts

> >> Good! What else could I investigate?

> >>

> >> Love,

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ___________________________________________________________

> >> Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen

Yahoo!

> > Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >