Guest guest Posted March 8, 1999 Report Share Posted March 8, 1999 Hi All! I have been following this thread with great interest. I read and then deleted an earlier post from someone who said something about Diet Rite Cola having Splenda (or at least a safer sugar) in it? Did I read it wrong? I went to the store yesterday and looked at all the Diet Rite labels and they all said they contained Aspartame. Right now, all I drink is water or unsweetened iced tea and that is getting rather old. I need to be particularly careful right now as chemo is shooting my BG's all over the place!! The doctor has increased my insulin, but even with exercise and the increased dosage of insulin, the lowest it has been is 180 the day after chemo. Not bad, considering that usually the day after it was approaching 400, fasting - actually all day for that matter. The good thing is that the chemo is making me better and stronger this time instead of sicker and weaker which they say is a very good sign for which I am truly thankful. No side effects from the chemo at all - except a little arthritis in the legs now and again. And my appetite is so good! All I want to do is eat. So, I could really use some advice here, guys. On the one had this is great, the appetite I mean - considering chemo and all - on the other - it is not good for my BG's. Talk about the old proverbial Rock!! in Port Orange FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 1999 Report Share Posted March 8, 1999 Thanks Ann for the info on the Diet RC and the advice. I never use aspartame. What I need is more variety to pick from because I think it's the fact that I'm so darn hungry all the time. It's the carb intake - I try to stick to salads, complex carbs and proteins, but sometimes that is not always possible. I feel, too, that I need to eat more too to compensate for the effects of the chemo killing the good cells along with the bad - I have managed to maintain my weight - no loss or gain. It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't need to play both ends of the field at once - this balancing act between chemo and diabetes is no fun!! On the one had they tell you EAT, EAT, EAT and on the other hand - WATCH IT!! I love chinese and find that I crave it on chemo days - probably because the ginger is good for nausea. It doesn't seem to do anything to my BG's - I know this because I have it during the week when I level out again and my BG's are not elevated that much when I eat the chicken " fried " rice. I stay away from the lo-mein and egg rolls, etc as they REALLY are bad!! But, the broth from WonTon soup is excellent for me. I skip the noodle part and just drink the broth and whatever other vegetables are in it. I've also discovered that 's Classic Greek Pitas are very good for me. I'm a label reader BIGTIME and skip anything that lists more than 50g of carb and 0 Sugar - or at least try to! I also try to skip anything that lists more than 25% fat. Now, this may seem high to some, but my nutritionist is concerned that I am NOT getting enough fat - because I totall have eliminated ALL of it from the rest of my diet - so she has told me to deliberately have some everyday. I am a little fussy about that part, but try to adhere to what she says, - that's why the " fried " rice works for me. PASTA or a large amt of bread (more than one slice) - a definite no-no for me - except for the Pita Bread and 100% whole grain breads. Chile Con Carne is a must have - it really brings the BG's down!! << I should have read your message all the way through. You didn't say if you are type I or II. I suspect you are type II. Try lowering your carb intake and getting completely off asparatame. Monitor yourself as you make the changes and see what works. I have had to completely leave aspartame out of my diet and lower my carb intake in order to bring my BG's down below 120. I am grateful to have found out about splenda as it has made my life more bearable. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 1999 Report Share Posted March 8, 1999 In a message dated 99-03-08 08:25:15 EST, you write: << , I'm sorry you're having to do the chemo! Have you tried low carbing while on it? I don't know your medical condition or if low carb would be ok for you... maybe you should ask your doc or your oncologist. Meenie >> Haven't tried low-carbing - by that I assume you mean eating as little carbs as possible - I try to stick to High Complex carbs though. The oncology doctors have stressed maintaining my weight as is - I have lost weight - but only at the times when I am allowed to and can do it *easily* as long as I don't have chemo - with chemo, it is important to maintain because of the strain it puts on the system killing good along with bad cells. Problem is my cancers caused the loss of my left kidney and most of my pancreas last year - thank God it was two different kinds and had not spread!! - But, now they found three pinpoint spots on my liver - not good - but so small they can't even biopsy - so chemo for me again! I feel better and stronger each week which is great and encouraging to the doctors, but on the day after chemo, my BG starts out at almost 400 and remains just about there all day long - sometimes I have tested 6 times a day - I was getting so nervous about it - and then, I backed off because I was getting so stressed. The next day it drops another 100 pts and the next another 100 pts until about 4 days after is just about in normal range again, but by then, it is almost time to repeat the process. So, I know, and the doctors have told me, that the chemo is causing the problem and I need to get my insulin adjusted which I am monitoring now for a few days so he can make a determination of how much more to prescribe. So far, he took me off precose, so far (the only pill I was able to digest and not have a side affect) and put me on humalin twice a day - 12 u in the AM and 16 in the PM. Now, he wants to put me on 70-30 Insulin but is waiting to see what figures I give him these next two weeks. The thing is because I am feeling so good these past 6 weeks I have been on chemo again (do you think a new grandbaby born last Sunday has anything to do with it!!?? <G>) that I think I could try to lose a little even though on chemo but am afraid to take any chances - can you blame me?! So I try to eat as much as I can and try to work it all in to please all my doctors. But for drinks which I have to consume a lot more of because of the dry tissue problem with chemo, I stick to lots and lots of water and sometimes an unsweetened iced tea when we are out. I have Type II diabetes and the funny thing is all my life I never even liked sweets!! How's that for ironic? It's enough to drive a crazy person sane!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 1999 Report Share Posted March 8, 1999 The difference is Diet Rite is NOT Diet RC. While they are bottled by the same company the AS is different. Call your local bottler and ask about Diet RC Cola. Ann S Re: Splenda >From: clerk@... > >Hi All! > >I have been following this thread with great interest. I read and then deleted >an earlier post from someone who said something about Diet Rite Cola having >Splenda (or at least a safer sugar) in it? Did I read it wrong? I went to the >store yesterday and looked at all the Diet Rite labels and they all said they >contained Aspartame. Right now, all I drink is water or unsweetened iced tea >and that is getting rather old. > >I need to be particularly careful right now as chemo is shooting my BG's all >over the place!! The doctor has increased my insulin, but even with exercise >and the increased dosage of insulin, the lowest it has been is 180 the day >after chemo. Not bad, considering that usually the day after it was >approaching 400, fasting - actually all day for that matter. The good thing is >that the chemo is making me better and stronger this time instead of sicker >and weaker which they say is a very good sign for which I am truly thankful. >No side effects from the chemo at all - except a little arthritis in the legs >now and again. > >And my appetite is so good! All I want to do is eat. So, I could really use >some advice here, guys. On the one had this is great, the appetite I mean - >considering chemo and all - on the other - it is not good for my BG's. Talk >about the old proverbial Rock!! > > in Port Orange FL > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >If you like orange and blue, then you will love our new web site! >http://www.onelist.com >Onelist: ing connections and information exchange > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 1999 Report Share Posted March 8, 1999 , I should have read your message all the way through. You didn't say if you are type I or II. I suspect you are type II. Try lowering your carb intake and getting completely off asparatame. Monitor yourself as you make the changes and see what works. I have had to completely leave aspartame out of my diet and lower my carb intake in order to bring my BG's down below 120. I am grateful to have found out about splenda as it has made my life more bearable. Ann S Re: Splenda >From: clerk@... > >Hi All! > >I have been following this thread with great interest. I read and then deleted >an earlier post from someone who said something about Diet Rite Cola having >Splenda (or at least a safer sugar) in it? Did I read it wrong? I went to the >store yesterday and looked at all the Diet Rite labels and they all said they >contained Aspartame. Right now, all I drink is water or unsweetened iced tea >and that is getting rather old. > >I need to be particularly careful right now as chemo is shooting my BG's all >over the place!! The doctor has increased my insulin, but even with exercise >and the increased dosage of insulin, the lowest it has been is 180 the day >after chemo. Not bad, considering that usually the day after it was >approaching 400, fasting - actually all day for that matter. The good thing is >that the chemo is making me better and stronger this time instead of sicker >and weaker which they say is a very good sign for which I am truly thankful. >No side effects from the chemo at all - except a little arthritis in the legs >now and again. > >And my appetite is so good! All I want to do is eat. So, I could really use >some advice here, guys. On the one had this is great, the appetite I mean - >considering chemo and all - on the other - it is not good for my BG's. Talk >about the old proverbial Rock!! > > in Port Orange FL > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >If you like orange and blue, then you will love our new web site! >http://www.onelist.com >Onelist: ing connections and information exchange > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 1999 Report Share Posted March 8, 1999 I heard that about diet rite, also about RC Cola... but here they both are sweetened with aspartame. Even Tabb (which I FINALLY found at Teeter , has been re-done and now has aspartame in it <sniffle>) , I'm sorry you're having to do the chemo! Have you tried low carbing while on it? I don't know your medical condition or if low carb would be ok for you... maybe you should ask your doc or your oncologist. Meenie Re: Splenda >From: clerk@... > >Hi All! > >I have been following this thread with great interest. I read and then deleted >an earlier post from someone who said something about Diet Rite Cola having >Splenda (or at least a safer sugar) in it? Did I read it wrong? I went to the >store yesterday and looked at all the Diet Rite labels and they all said they >contained Aspartame. Right now, all I drink is water or unsweetened iced tea >and that is getting rather old. > >I need to be particularly careful right now as chemo is shooting my BG's all >over the place!! The doctor has increased my insulin, but even with exercise >and the increased dosage of insulin, the lowest it has been is 180 the day >after chemo. Not bad, considering that usually the day after it was >approaching 400, fasting - actually all day for that matter. The good thing is >that the chemo is making me better and stronger this time instead of sicker >and weaker which they say is a very good sign for which I am truly thankful. >No side effects from the chemo at all - except a little arthritis in the legs >now and again. > >And my appetite is so good! All I want to do is eat. So, I could really use >some advice here, guys. On the one had this is great, the appetite I mean - >considering chemo and all - on the other - it is not good for my BG's. Talk >about the old proverbial Rock!! > > in Port Orange FL > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >If you like orange and blue, then you will love our new web site! >http://www.onelist.com >Onelist: ing connections and information exchange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 1999 Report Share Posted March 8, 1999 Not Diet Rite---- Diet RC. clerk@... wrote: > From: clerk@... > > Hi All! > > I have been following this thread with great interest. I read and then deleted > an earlier post from someone who said something about Diet Rite Cola having > Splenda (or at least a safer sugar) in it? Did I read it wrong? I went to the > store yesterday and looked at all the Diet Rite labels and they all said they > contained Aspartame. Right now, all I drink is water or unsweetened iced tea > and that is getting rather old. > > I need to be particularly careful right now as chemo is shooting my BG's all > over the place!! The doctor has increased my insulin, but even with exercise > and the increased dosage of insulin, the lowest it has been is 180 the day > after chemo. Not bad, considering that usually the day after it was > approaching 400, fasting - actually all day for that matter. The good thing is > that the chemo is making me better and stronger this time instead of sicker > and weaker which they say is a very good sign for which I am truly thankful. > No side effects from the chemo at all - except a little arthritis in the legs > now and again. > > And my appetite is so good! All I want to do is eat. So, I could really use > some advice here, guys. On the one had this is great, the appetite I mean - > considering chemo and all - on the other - it is not good for my BG's. Talk > about the old proverbial Rock!! > > in Port Orange FL > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > If you like orange and blue, then you will love our new web site! > http://www.onelist.com > Onelist: ing connections and information exchange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 1999 Report Share Posted March 8, 1999 Okay, I found diet RC cola with Splenda at the store. It is better than Aspartame as far as no side effects so far, but it still leaves a nasty taste in my mouth. It is sweeter than real sugar, and leaves a very sweet bitter taste in my mouth. The soda is noticeably sweeter than a regular soda. I don't have much of a sweet tooth, and a regular soda is pushing the sweet limit for me anyway. Maybe it will be better in other products? And, I was all jazzed hoping something would finally taste like the real thing! Blech! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 1999 Report Share Posted March 9, 1999 OH good, I have hope then I just went to the store day before yesterday and found diet RC and it had aspartame. Glad to hear it will change! Thanks Re: Splenda >> >> >>>From: clerk@... >>> >>>Hi All! >>> >>>I have been following this thread with great interest. I read and then >>deleted >>>an earlier post from someone who said something about Diet Rite Cola >having >>>Splenda (or at least a safer sugar) in it? Did I read it wrong? I went to >>the >>>store yesterday and looked at all the Diet Rite labels and they all said >>they >>>contained Aspartame. Right now, all I drink is water or unsweetened iced >>tea >>>and that is getting rather old. >>> >>>I need to be particularly careful right now as chemo is shooting my BG's >>all >>>over the place!! The doctor has increased my insulin, but even with >>exercise >>>and the increased dosage of insulin, the lowest it has been is 180 the >day >>>after chemo. Not bad, considering that usually the day after it was >>>approaching 400, fasting - actually all day for that matter. The good >thing >>is >>>that the chemo is making me better and stronger this time instead of >sicker >>>and weaker which they say is a very good sign for which I am truly >>thankful. >>>No side effects from the chemo at all - except a little arthritis in the >>legs >>>now and again. >>> >>>And my appetite is so good! All I want to do is eat. So, I could really >>use >>>some advice here, guys. On the one had this is great, the appetite I >>mean - >>>considering chemo and all - on the other - it is not good for my BG's. >Talk >>>about the old proverbial Rock!! >>> >>> in Port Orange FL >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>If you like orange and blue, then you will love our new web site! >>>http://www.onelist.com >>>Onelist: ing connections and information exchange >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 1999 Report Share Posted March 9, 1999 In a message dated 99-03-09 01:23:16 EST, you write: << Mix it with club soda! >> You know, That is a good idea, and I will try it. I left the glass sitting on my desk and did some sewing and came back, the ice had melted and watered it down, and it was not quite so sweet. I'll pick up some club soda and try it out..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 1999 Report Share Posted March 9, 1999 The Diet RC Cola formula has been changed to using Splenda as the sweetener but many areas the stores are still selling the older products first. You just have to wait for the newer products to get stocked or ask the manager of the store to push to get the newer stuff from the wearhouse. Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY wtnewman@... Bill@... www.christianmerchants.com List owner: bibletalk@... & disaster@... & medsupport@... Moderator/Host: response@... & preparedness@... & www.delphi.com/disaster www.delphi.com/diabetes plus 12 closed medical discussion groups. wnservices@... -- Web Development -- Web Hosting -- Desktop Publishing Re: Splenda > > >>From: clerk@... >> >>Hi All! >> >>I have been following this thread with great interest. I read and then >deleted >>an earlier post from someone who said something about Diet Rite Cola having >>Splenda (or at least a safer sugar) in it? Did I read it wrong? I went to >the >>store yesterday and looked at all the Diet Rite labels and they all said >they >>contained Aspartame. Right now, all I drink is water or unsweetened iced >tea >>and that is getting rather old. >> >>I need to be particularly careful right now as chemo is shooting my BG's >all >>over the place!! The doctor has increased my insulin, but even with >exercise >>and the increased dosage of insulin, the lowest it has been is 180 the day >>after chemo. Not bad, considering that usually the day after it was >>approaching 400, fasting - actually all day for that matter. The good thing >is >>that the chemo is making me better and stronger this time instead of sicker >>and weaker which they say is a very good sign for which I am truly >thankful. >>No side effects from the chemo at all - except a little arthritis in the >legs >>now and again. >> >>And my appetite is so good! All I want to do is eat. So, I could really >use >>some advice here, guys. On the one had this is great, the appetite I >mean - >>considering chemo and all - on the other - it is not good for my BG's. Talk >>about the old proverbial Rock!! >> >> in Port Orange FL >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>If you like orange and blue, then you will love our new web site! >>http://www.onelist.com >>Onelist: ing connections and information exchange > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 1999 Report Share Posted March 9, 1999 Mix it with club soda! arts@... wrote: > From: arts@... > > Okay, > > I found diet RC cola with Splenda at the store. It is better than Aspartame > as far as no side effects so far, but it still leaves a nasty taste in my > mouth. It is sweeter than real sugar, and leaves a very sweet bitter taste in > my mouth. The soda is noticeably sweeter than a regular soda. I don't have > much of a sweet tooth, and a regular soda is pushing the sweet limit for me > anyway. Maybe it will be better in other products? > > And, I was all jazzed hoping something would finally taste like the real > thing! Blech! > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > We are proud as punch of our new web site! > http://www.onelist.com > Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 1999 Report Share Posted March 9, 1999 A diabetic on Chemo is very hard. A neighbor of mine had that problem a few years ago. What finally happened was that he changed to insulin and controlled his higher BGs with the insulin using many injections a day. He then ate more of the food that he needed to help rebuild the good cells and finally his cancer went into remission. The last two years there has not been any signs of a reoccurrence either. He is still under the tight control that he had with the insulin and still takes 4 to 6 injections a day. That is where I first got the idea of tight control with multiple injections. Then I joined a research team on the same program. I have found it is the best way for me to live as normal life as I can. Actually my diabetes is in such good control that it takes a second and third place in the list of medical problems that I work on taking care of . My heart problems are now number one. Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY wtnewman@... Bill@... www.christianmerchants.com List owner: bibletalk@... & disaster@... & medsupport@... Moderator/Host: response@... & preparedness@... & www.delphi.com/disaster www.delphi.com/diabetes plus 12 closed medical discussion groups. wnservices@... -- Web Development -- Web Hosting -- Desktop Publishing Re: Splenda >From: clerk@... > >Thanks Ann for the info on the Diet RC and the advice. I never use aspartame. > >What I need is more variety to pick from because I think it's the fact that >I'm so darn hungry all the time. It's the carb intake - I try to stick to >salads, complex carbs and proteins, but sometimes that is not always possible. >I feel, too, that I need to eat more too to compensate for the effects of the >chemo killing the good cells along with the bad - I have managed to maintain >my weight - no loss or gain. It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't need to play >both ends of the field at once - this balancing act between chemo and diabetes >is no fun!! On the one had they tell you EAT, EAT, EAT and on the other hand >- WATCH IT!! > >I love chinese and find that I crave it on chemo days - probably because the >ginger is good for nausea. It doesn't seem to do anything to my BG's - I know >this because I have it during the week when I level out again and my BG's are >not elevated that much when I eat the chicken " fried " rice. I stay away from >the lo-mein and egg rolls, etc as they REALLY are bad!! But, the broth from >WonTon soup is excellent for me. I skip the noodle part and just drink the >broth and whatever other vegetables are in it. > >I've also discovered that 's Classic Greek Pitas are very good for me. >I'm a label reader BIGTIME and skip anything that lists more than 50g of carb >and 0 Sugar - or at least try to! I also try to skip anything that lists more >than 25% fat. Now, this may seem high to some, but my nutritionist is >concerned that I am NOT getting enough fat - because I totall have eliminated >ALL of it from the rest of my diet - so she has told me to deliberately have >some everyday. I am a little fussy about that part, but try to adhere to what >she says, - that's why the " fried " rice works for me. > >PASTA or a large amt of bread (more than one slice) - a definite no-no for me >- except for the Pita Bread and 100% whole grain breads. > >Chile Con Carne is a must have - it really brings the BG's down!! > > > > > ><< I should have read your message all the way through. You didn't say if you > are type I or II. I suspect you are type II. Try lowering your carb intake > and getting completely off asparatame. Monitor yourself as you make the > changes and see what works. I have had to completely leave aspartame out of > my diet and lower my carb intake in order to bring my BG's down below 120. > I am grateful to have found out about splenda as it has made my life more > bearable. >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? >http://www.onelist.com >Sign up for a new email list today > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 1999 Report Share Posted March 9, 1999 Sounds like you have very sensitive taste buds. I have not found any after taste and yes it is a little sweeter but not that bad. I have found that it is a great sweetener and do not believe that there will be as many side effects. Nothing came up in the study of the products as well as the heavy use in Canada did not really show anything bad. Now that we finally have something good you know there will be people that will find a way to find some little thing wrong with it and then try to get it banned. Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY wtnewman@... Bill@... www.christianmerchants.com List owner: bibletalk@... & disaster@... & medsupport@... Moderator/Host: response@... & preparedness@... & www.delphi.com/disaster www.delphi.com/diabetes plus 12 closed medical discussion groups. wnservices@... -- Web Development -- Web Hosting -- Desktop Publishing Re: Splenda >From: arts@... > >Okay, > >I found diet RC cola with Splenda at the store. It is better than Aspartame >as far as no side effects so far, but it still leaves a nasty taste in my >mouth. It is sweeter than real sugar, and leaves a very sweet bitter taste in >my mouth. The soda is noticeably sweeter than a regular soda. I don't have >much of a sweet tooth, and a regular soda is pushing the sweet limit for me >anyway. Maybe it will be better in other products? > >And, I was all jazzed hoping something would finally taste like the real >thing! Blech! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 1999 Report Share Posted March 9, 1999 If you will taste the regular RC you will find that it is considerably sweeter than coke or pepsi. I think that is the problem. I use splenda in a lot of things and get no aftertaste. Perhaps it is the sweet taste that bothers you since yo said you don't have a sweet taste. I for one hope that coke and pepsie go to this soon. Ann S Re: Splenda >From: arts@... > >Okay, > >I found diet RC cola with Splenda at the store. It is better than Aspartame >as far as no side effects so far, but it still leaves a nasty taste in my >mouth. It is sweeter than real sugar, and leaves a very sweet bitter taste in >my mouth. The soda is noticeably sweeter than a regular soda. I don't have >much of a sweet tooth, and a regular soda is pushing the sweet limit for me >anyway. Maybe it will be better in other products? > >And, I was all jazzed hoping something would finally taste like the real >thing! Blech! > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >We are proud as punch of our new web site! >http://www.onelist.com >Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 1999 Report Share Posted March 9, 1999 I can digest foods i never could >before and have developed new allergies as well. And sometimes pasta will >bother BGs and other times not - depends on when during the day I eat >particular foods and my activity levels. > > > Yes indeed!! Activity - exercise - has a tremendous effect on bg's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 1999 Report Share Posted March 11, 1999 , So glad to hear another point of view! I trust my dietician's advice, and in my mind (because I have taken nutrition classes) I KNEW she was right; but, everyone keeps saying you need to cut down on fat. So much to remember! :>) in Port Orange, FL In a message dated 99-03-10 22:31:52 EST, you write: << As far as eliminating all fat from your diet -- your dietician was right. I was really trying to cut my fat intake, and got down to consuming in the single digits for fat grams per day. The result for me was intestinal trouble. I wound up severely constipated. All I am saying here is be careful! Your body does need some fat to function properly! >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 1999 Report Share Posted March 11, 1999 Your body needs fats, proteins and carbohydrates. I'm on a low carbo diet and you get all you need from veggies and fruits. There was a time when man didn't know how to process food... he could pick it and eat it, or he could kill it and eat it and that is the diet that was meant for us. Re: Splenda >From: DeeBent@... > > - > >As far as eliminating all fat from your diet -- your dietician was right. I >was really trying to cut my fat intake, and got down to consuming in the >single digits for fat grams per day. The result for me was intestinal >trouble. I wound up severely constipated. All I am saying here is be >careful! Your body does need some fat to function properly! > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >We have a new web site! >http://www.onelist.com >Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 1999 Report Share Posted March 11, 1999 Also some fat is actually need for the heart. My heart doctor has me on a diet where I eat 10 to 15 grams of fat a day. Mostly in the form of olive oil and fat from chicken or fish. I can once a month eat red meat as long as it is a lean cut. Of course I also eat pizza but I have chicken and vegetables on it only. Same thing with carbs. The body needs some complex carbs in order for everything to work properly. In most people this is around 25 to 35 grams of carbs a day. I tried much lower than that and ran into trouble with heart rates and rhythm Will never go very low carb again. Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY wtnewman@... Bill@... www.christianmerchants.com List owner: bibletalk@... & disaster@... & medsupport@... Moderator/Host: response@... & preparedness@... & www.delphi.com/disaster www.delphi.com/diabetes plus 12 closed medical discussion groups. wnservices@... -- Web Development -- Web Hosting -- Desktop Publishing Re: Splenda >From: DeeBent@... > > - > >As far as eliminating all fat from your diet -- your dietician was right. I >was really trying to cut my fat intake, and got down to consuming in the >single digits for fat grams per day. The result for me was intestinal >trouble. I wound up severely constipated. All I am saying here is be >careful! Your body does need some fat to function properly! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 1999 Report Share Posted March 11, 1999 How low did you go with your carbs, Bill? On the induction phase of Atkins I have 20 grams a day, and that is only for 2 weeks... after that I begin to increase it. Meenie Re: Splenda > > >Also some fat is actually need for the heart. My heart doctor has me on a >diet where I eat 10 to 15 grams of fat a day. Mostly in the form of olive >oil and fat from chicken or fish. I can once a month eat red meat as long as >it is a lean cut. Of course I also eat pizza but I have chicken and >vegetables on it only. > >Same thing with carbs. The body needs some complex carbs in order for >everything to work properly. In most people this is around 25 to 35 grams of >carbs a day. I tried much lower than that and ran into trouble with heart >rates and rhythm Will never go very low carb again. > > >Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY >wtnewman@... >Bill@... >www.christianmerchants.com > >List owner: bibletalk@... & disaster@... & medsupport@... >Moderator/Host: response@... & preparedness@... & >www.delphi.com/disaster > www.delphi.com/diabetes plus 12 closed medical >discussion groups. > wnservices@... -- Web Development -- Web Hosting -- Desktop >Publishing > > > Re: Splenda > > >>From: DeeBent@... >> >> - >> >>As far as eliminating all fat from your diet -- your dietician was right. >I >>was really trying to cut my fat intake, and got down to consuming in the >>single digits for fat grams per day. The result for me was intestinal >>trouble. I wound up severely constipated. All I am saying here is be >>careful! Your body does need some fat to function properly! >> >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Have you visited our new web site? >http://www.onelist.com >Onelist: Helping to create Internet communities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 1999 Report Share Posted March 11, 1999 The older form of Atkins back in the 80s was 10 grams of carbs a day. Since many people had problems with it he moved the carbs up. I seem to do the best with 35 grams of carbs a day and my BG levels are very tight. I keep them in the 70 to 85 range and hardly ever go over 100. At 110 I start to have chest pain and over 150 it is hospital time. I also do not eat breakfast so that allows a few extra carbs at another meal. I normally only eat two meals a day and then a late night snack of a small fruit or PB and crackers. Bill Newman -- Rochester, NY wtnewman@... Bill@... www.christianmerchants.com List owner: bibletalk@... & disaster@... & medsupport@... Moderator/Host: response@... & preparedness@... & www.delphi.com/disaster www.delphi.com/diabetes plus 12 closed medical discussion groups. wnservices@... -- Web Development -- Web Hosting -- Desktop Publishing Re: Splenda >> >> >>>From: DeeBent@... >>> >>> - >>> >>>As far as eliminating all fat from your diet -- your dietician was right. >>I >>>was really trying to cut my fat intake, and got down to consuming in the >>>single digits for fat grams per day. The result for me was intestinal >>>trouble. I wound up severely constipated. All I am saying here is be >>>careful! Your body does need some fat to function properly! >>> >>> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>Have you visited our new web site? >>http://www.onelist.com >>Onelist: Helping to create Internet communities > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Ideas on how we can improve ONElist? >http://www.onelist.com >Check out the Suggestion Box feature on our new web site > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 1999 Report Share Posted May 12, 1999 At 08:13 AM 5/12/99 -0400, you wrote: > > > >Oh Pat You did get yourself a treat! I LOVE splenda >Isn't it a delight? It tastes just like sugar and you can cook with it. I >was absolutely thrilled when I got mine about 3 weeks ago, I make cheesecake >with it mmmmmmm > Meenie > > hey meenie I agree about the Splenda. It's great. Could you please, please, pretty please post your recipe for cheescake???? ****************************************************** Do not wish to be anything but what you are. --Saint Francis de Sales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 1999 Report Share Posted May 12, 1999 There are two cheesecake recipes, one is baked and one is unbaked. I greatly prefer the baked one myself Here they are - baked one first Cheese Cups 12 servings 2.8 g. carbs each 5 eggs ( 5 g.) 2 8 oz pkgs cream cheese, softened. (16 g.) 7 tsp Splenda (3.5 g)(I used more splenda than this - judge by tasting the " batter " ) 1/2 t. vanilla (.5 g.) line muffin cups with paper cups. Preheat oven to 300°, beat ingredients until smooth. Pour into cups. (you can also make this in a pie pan - don't use a springform - it'll leak without a crust!) Bake 40 min. Remove and cool 5 min. Center will fall, fill dip in the center with the following: 1 c. sour cream (7.5 g) 1/4 t. vanilla (.2 g) 1 3/4 t. Splenda (1 g) return to oven for 5 min. Cool and refrigerate overnight. 12 servings 2.8g. carbs each And here is the no-bake one: No-carb Cheesecake (almost!) 1 sm. pkg. SF jello, any flavor 2 8-oz. pkgs. cream cheese (room temp.) (16 carb) 1 tbsp. vanilla extract 6 pkts. artificial sweetener (6 carb) 1/2 c. boiling water 1/2 c. cold water ------------------------------------------------------------ Mix boiling water with jello to dissolve. Add remaining ingredients. Refrigerate until set. Servings: 8 Carbohydrates/serving: 3 You can also follow the directions in the non flavored knox gelatin box and just substitute splenda for sugar. Re: Splenda > > >At 08:13 AM 5/12/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >> >>Oh Pat You did get yourself a treat! I LOVE splenda >>Isn't it a delight? It tastes just like sugar and you can cook with it. I >>was absolutely thrilled when I got mine about 3 weeks ago, I make cheesecake >>with it mmmmmmm >> Meenie >> >> >hey meenie > >I agree about the Splenda. It's great. Could you please, please, pretty >please post your recipe for cheescake???? > > > > >****************************************************** >Do not wish to be anything but what you are. >--Saint Francis de Sales > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >ONElist: where the world talks! >http://www.onelist.com >Join a new list today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 1999 Report Share Posted May 12, 1999 I also make a mean little quickie dessert occasionally with 3 oz of cream cheese in a mug. Nuke in the microwave for 30 seconds. Add 1 Tblspn of cream, stir well til smooth. Add 2 pkts of splenda and a dash of vanilla extract. You can also use other flavored extracts, or a dash of DaVinci's SF syrups (I have chocolate, ammaretto, and cherry - these do have aspartame but it's the only thing with aspartame I use at all and only use a small amount) Meenie Re: Splenda > > >At 08:13 AM 5/12/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >> >>Oh Pat You did get yourself a treat! I LOVE splenda >>Isn't it a delight? It tastes just like sugar and you can cook with it. I >>was absolutely thrilled when I got mine about 3 weeks ago, I make cheesecake >>with it mmmmmmm >> Meenie >> >> >hey meenie > >I agree about the Splenda. It's great. Could you please, please, pretty >please post your recipe for cheescake???? > > > > >****************************************************** >Do not wish to be anything but what you are. >--Saint Francis de Sales > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >ONElist: where the world talks! >http://www.onelist.com >Join a new list today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 1999 Report Share Posted May 12, 1999 > <<<I agree about the Splenda. It's great. Could you please, please, pretty > please post your recipe for cheescake????>>> I've been using it at home for a month now but on vacation here in Florida I just found the Splenda version of Ocean Spray Cranberry & Cran-Grape drinks...at Albertson's... EXCELLENT..!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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