Re: 911:: Full Moon

[Guest guest]

You can tell when the moon is full...we have every mental in the city on the

phone at least once per shift. We had at least 5 in the lobby on Saturday

evening. It looked like " Night of the Brain Dead " . Doncha hate it when it

happens on the weekend?

Lyn

magik@...

911:: Full Moon

> >hopefully tonight will be a little bit calmer

>

> Don't count on it.. I think the moon's still full.

[Guest guest]

We haven't had too many mentals over the weekend (a few but nothing

extraordinary) but it was stupid reasons for calling

9-1-1 weekend. Let's see I had the SENIOR CITIZEN and the only reason I say

this is because she was very vocal about the fact that she was a SENIOR

CITIZEN that had her newspaper stolen from her driveway. Yes that was a

call on 9-1-1...in fact it was even a newspaper stealing in progress

(rolling my eyes)...Everyone was on me about this calling to make fun of me

when I dispatched it...I told them all they should know that all crimes

against senior citizens are automatically taken up to felony level (this was

the woman's whole attitude). My partner Rose wanted to make sure I asked

her if she paid her newspaper bill maybe it was being repossessed....Rose is

a sick puppy in hiding just to let you all know.... And Rose took the 9-1-1

call for children throwing eggs at each other and in the street....she asked

if they throwing them in the RP's yard...THEY wouldn't dare do such a

thing...I have a good mental image of this hag. I also got the lowdown on

the senior citizen with the stolen newspaper from the deputy. He said the

smell from inside her house was horrendous, she stepped outside to talk to

him, because he wasn't going in and she had big ole toenails manicured, they

were really long and hung over her sandals YUCKY!!! Then I had the loose

dog call that was going to get hit and the woman saved it on 9-1-1, (she was

quickly transferred off the 9-1-1 line). And to top off the weekend the

power went out in Plain City and EVERYONE called with those power out

questions...When will the power be on, How long is the power going to be

off, Why is the power out, I called because the power company's phone number

is busy can you call them for me (on our magic telephone number for them)

Sorry we have the same one you do, I called the power company and got the

automated reporting system can you call them and make sure they got my

report. Then part of the telephones went out in Plain City so that was a

bit of a relief....We had very evil thoughts...Since the some of the phones

were out and we only have 1 Plain City line, the electric is out, and all

9-1-1 calls in Plain City go to Madison County we thought of revenge...set

off the tornado siren just for the heck of it...scare the heck out of those

poor people. (we didn't it was just evil thoughts) Okay so we are evil but

Rose was going to start telling people the power was out because Aliens

landed on the substation, take cover immediately the town is being invaded.

Sara Winfield

[Guest guest]

Had a call from a elderly woman that stated she had some subjects refusing

to leave her house. The were not abusive just refusing to leave. I confirmed

her name, address, phone and sent the officer keeping her on the line. With

the officer enroute I asked where they were in her house. She stated one was

sitting in the lounger in her living room and the other was on top of the TV

sitting in the flower pot.

OoooooK! What are their names? I don't know. Ooooook! You are sure one is

sitting on the TV in the flower pot? Yes I can see his legs hanging down. I

explained this to the officer and kept her on the line till he arrived to

make sure the guy didn't get out of the flower pot. Come to find out her

husband had just died a few months previous and she just couldn't handle it.

Doug in Leavenworth

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/19/00 7:49:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

rweintraut@... writes:

<< " cookie monster " Weintraut >>

-- richard, i do believe you would fit right in with the officers on my

shift -- they were very pleased with the treats i brought them.......

<<And the idea of having a night like that, with units going to the

calls, without complaint, Sergeants volunteering.. unit calling

to thank you for your help... sounds like you have a pretty good

department to work for.>>

-- i won't say too much about the dept as a whole (i disagree with a lot of

the politics) -- however, the shift i work with is absolutely wonderful --

and yes, i did tell them that last night (while they were inhaling the

cookies) --kim

[Guest guest]

Actually, the Moon is only " full " for a few minutes. Remember, the Moon, the

Earth, the Sun, and everything else in the solar system (and galaxy) is moving!

The Moon is " almost " full for a couple of days, but if the effect is from the

" full Moon " , then it should only last a little while.

Now, if a partial full moon will generate the same responses by the " loonies "

<grin>, we need to determine how much of a partial will create the effect.

99%? 95%? 80%? We also need to determine what it is about the full or partially

full Moon that creates the reported effects. Gravity won't work as a culprit,

since the Moon is ALWAYS out there, whether or not it is fully illuminated by

the Sun from our point of view. It passes over once a day regardless. So, is

it the light? If so, why don't we have the same problems with regular daylight,

since Moonlight is simply reflected Sunlight? Hmmmmm maybe coincidence?

Being an astronomy buff, and somewhat scientifically minded, the full moon

effect is one of my pet peeves, as you might have guessed. Every survey done

shows no correlation between full moon and reported incidents. But that's sure

the legend that exists!

Jim Reeves, Jr. KC6YRU ICQ # 884017

Tulare County CA Sheriff's Office 9-1-1/Dispatcher

Web pages at: http://kc6yru.cnetech.com

E-mail to: jimmiejoe@...

Get paid to surf the web!

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911:: Full Moon

>hopefully tonight will be a little bit calmer

Don't count on it.. I think the moon's still full.

[Guest guest]

Jim, being an astronomy buff you should know... *shaking head*

it's the tidal effect of being pulled in two different directions by two

powerfull gravitational forces.

*big grin*

annette hallmark

*very amature astronomer who would like to see hotels in orbit and on

the moon and regular space flights for us simple folk.

I'm sure Bill Gates could make this possible.*

[Guest guest]

--- wrote:

> Had a call from a elderly woman that stated she had

> some subjects refusing

> to leave her house. The were not abusive just

> refusing to leave. I confirmed

> her name, address, phone and sent the officer

> keeping her on the line. With

> the officer enroute I asked where they were in her

> house.

------------<snip>-------------

~War Story Alert!

This is one of my favorites, as it reflects a couple

of features about dealing with the addled, officer

response to same and our concerns for both.

Setting: Consolidated Comm Center (my previous

incarnation). The senior dispatcher (VERY senior, if

you catch my drift) took a call from an elderly woman

reporting prowlers, which she described as " people

hiding in her bushes. " He wrote up the card and

handed it to me for dispatch, as his radio console

didn't handle the city in which she lived. He

proceeded to get more information while I checked who

I had to send. Prowler calls required a two-officer

response. I had one unit available, not even a roving

unit to assign as his backup. I assigned the solo

unit, who had just gotten off break-in, and we didn't

know that much about him. (When he'd visited the Comm

Center, he was very non-interactive, and the consensus

was that he didn't possess much of a sense of humor.)

I advised him I'd try to get a backup clear for the

call.

Meanwhile, the RP began to provide a great deal more

information to the senior dispatcher: the people

hiding in her bushes were " shrinking from small size

to tall size. " Whoaaaa..... Oh, and the bushes were

in her house, in pots....her boston ferns and

diffenbachia.

The grizzled old senior dispatcher actually looked at

his phone handset at that point. He repeated what

she'd said, so I knew what the call entailed (we were

sitting at adjacent consoles) and to have her confirm

what she'd told him. She did so, adding that there

quite a few of these suspicious height-altering little

people in her house plants and it was scaring her.

Well, he also knew the status of my units as well as I

did (he could see the cards in all the unit slots and

he had heard me tell the responding unit I would try

to get a backup...) so he tried something innovative.

<grin> He asked her if she'd tried to use any

household appliances on the people, to scare them off.

(Stepping into her world, so to speak.)

She said she had, and they weren't the LEAST bit

afraid of her hair-dryer.

Well, I relayed the nature of the " prowlers " to the

responding unit, repeating that I'd get someone out of

the station to respond as well. (Mental health

patients can be dangerous, regardless of how " mild "

they report their situations.) This particular

address was a new one for us; we'd not dealt with this

little old lady previous to that incident.

The unit cancelled his backup and said he'd handle it

solo. I acknowledged his traffic and called the

sergeant to appraise him of the situation (wasn't

gonna have anybody say I didn't send a rookie a backup

on a 5150 (insane person) call.) The sergeant was

tied up with something but told me to check the unit's

status often. Well, duuh.... <grin> The senior

dispatcher chose to terminate the call prior to the

officer's arrival, since the suspects were currently

at bay in the houseplants. <ahem> We were also busy

in all our jurisdictions and the phones were ringing

without cease. He had his own details to handle and

we all had more calls to answer.

The unit reported " Code 4 " - no further assistance

needed - within a couple of minutes. I checked on him

again in five minutes; he was still Code 4. He

cleared shortly thereafter and we went on with

business. He did not elaborate on the call at all. It

was a busy night, all units tied up on this or that

call for some time, going from this to that all shift.

About 3 hours later, she called back and I answered

the line that time. She needed the officer (by name)

to come back. Why? " To finish the job. " Uhhhhhhh...

okie doke, I thought. I called the officer on the air

and advised him the RP at [1234 Someplace] wished him

to return to " complete the detail. " He transmitted,

" Negative, it's been handled. "

She was insistent, saying " he wasn't through, yet. "

So, I called him again, somewhat bemused, to relay

that bit of information, and his response was,

" Center, I shook her plants out and ordered all the

little people into the back of the patrol car, what

does she need now? "

Very carefully, without snickering or sounding

incredulous, I told the RP that our officer said he'd

taken all the suspicious people into custody, could

she explain what else was necessary? Oh. It appeared

he forgot the one in her terrarium.

He returned and " finished the job. " For the rest of

the shift, every one of his transmissions indicated a

non-solo status, as in " We'll handle that call, " or

" We're [out of service] at the station; " whatever he

did, he didn't do it alone, but with all those little

" small size to tall-size " house-plant people on the

back of his patrol unit.

That department had a very liberal ride-along policy,

but it was probably the only time hallucinations got

to see how the city's Finest took care of its

residents.

" DTs on patrol. " She hadn't presented signs of

intoxication because she WASN'T drunk, for the first

time in years. Some genteel little old ladies never

demonstrate anything so crude as drunken behavior.

=====

Happy to be here, proud to serve.

Olmstead

http://www.gryeyes.com

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[Guest guest]

,

Thank you!! I haven't laughed so hard in a very long time!! That is

definitely a keeper!!

Freida

Olmstead wrote:

>

> ------------<snip>-------------

> ~War Story Alert!

[Guest guest]

Freida,

I received the patch yesterday, thanks.

It was super.

Larry

Who knows,maybe if I get down TN way again I'll stop by.

[Guest guest]

yessss.......had my share of old/mental (usually old ladies) calling in

for help. My favorite caller is now long gone...but she would call in with

the strangest of calls...suspicious aliens...suspicious persons " bugging "

her house...she always stated it was Harvey..(the radio

personality)...the flying saucers were hovering over her house

again...etc...etc...Mr..so and so was putting those dang ruts in her driveway

again..etc...

We also would grin with her calls...usually, if we weren't busy, we would

chat with her and she would settle down and state an officer wasn't

necessary...(but we would have the supervisor call in to let him/her know

that so and so is off her medication again...and some cop in that zone would

do a drive by...CYA kinda stuff...grin)

Just cause...you never know...etc...

Anyways...it would be interesting to do a poll on this site to see who is the

majority of mentals calling in...is it elderly women...men...etc...? Over

this way...the women have the men beat, hands down...However I must say that

the majority of our mentals have died off....or we don't hear from them

because they are put in nursing homes..etc...

and....I have found on the " waning moon " ..or is it " waxing moon " that our

mental calls increase....just a meandering...

Cin in good ole Ohio

happy day, be safe

[Guest guest]

<when I left the dept..they were still talking to each other...

Old women...outlive their husbands......>snip snip

only in our profession would we run into all of these people...I kind of like

to think that there is a special calling for all of us who do it, and have

the empathy for the people we speak to..sight unseen...Hats off to you

Weintraut...thanks for sharing

[Guest guest]

That damned full moon- Had an old lady call camplaining that the invisible

hitchhiker she picked up was at her house hypnotizing her. My question - If

he was invisible, how did you see him on the side of the road to pick him

up????

Take care and keep safe

Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey

[Guest guest]

>, your little people story reminded me of a little old lady who used to

live in .<

Ahhh... the " airplane lady " .

She lived north of our post, and just about every night she would

call and complain about the airplane flying very low over her

house... very upset... really seemed frightened... very sweet.

After many calls someone thought to tell her that the plane

was " one of ours " meaning a State Police plane.

It calmed her greatly.. and the calls came less frequent.

She passed away a few years ago... I miss her.

Weintraut

[Guest guest]

>...is it elderly women...men...etc...?

It seems that it is elderly women mostly...

I always figured that they were lonely, most women outlive their

husbands and after many years of marriage it must be very

difficult to lose their loved one.

However it's not always women...

When I worked at a small PD we had an elderly gentleman who

oversaw the city park... He had been married for many years

and after his wife died... he was very lonely.

I worked all 4p-12m shifts and he would call, just to talk....

I also had a lady who would call.. same situation.. all alone.

Somehow, I don't remember how, I managed to get them

together. They started calling each other...became friends.

When I left the department, they were still calling each

other...

Damn, I love this job.

Weintraut

[Guest guest]

, your little people story reminded me of a little old lady who used to

live in . She would call up and ask for the officers to stop by and

remove hexes, little people, imaginary creatures. Usually they just spread

a little magic dust around (flour) and it took care of the problem. She's

dead and gone now, but every once in a while I think about her.

Working on campus, we don't get the " little old lady " calls like other PD's

do. Normally, we have to get our kicks because of " stupid student tricks " ,

which sometimes aren't so funny as imaginative. In a way I miss those types

of calls.

annette hallmark

ahallmark@...

[Guest guest]

>tiny imperceptible, smaller than atomic particles - are bombarding you,

passing through your body, down into the floor, through the Earth and

out the other side - without slowing down!)<

I felt those... the last time I worked a midnight shift....

Weintraut

[Guest guest]

ahhhh, yes, but then it has to happen twice a day....... in step with the tides!

Once when the Moon is overhead, and again when it is on the exact opposite side

of the orbit. Once a month isn't gonna cut it!

and Thursday night being crazy, and leading into a busy week-end....... it was

the 15th, and a lot of 'loonies' got paid! <a wink back at > The folks

that get paid weekly got paid the next day, Friday.

<smug, self satisfied look> any other mysteries of the universe to be

explained?? Ask me, I dare ya!

Jim

Jim, being an astronomy buff you should know... *shaking head*

it's the tidal effect of being pulled in two different directions by two

powerfull gravitational forces.

*big grin*

annette hallmark

[Guest guest]

Okay... *cracking knuckles*

Where is all this dark matter that Hawkins keeps talking about? Why

can we see through it, but yet it has such a gravitational effect on the

galaxies?

And why is it that neutrinos can pass through the Earth without even slowing

down and effect the humans not at all? (That's a thought for you all.

while you are sitting at your consoles, dispatching calls, neutrinos - tiny

imperceptible, smaller than atomic particles - are bombarding you, passing

through your body, down into the floor, through the Earth and out the other

side - without slowing down!)

*hummm????*

just kidding...

annette

<<snip>>

<smug, self satisfied look> any other mysteries of the universe to be

explained?? Ask me, I dare ya!

Jim

<<snip>>

[Guest guest]

<mmwwwaaahahahahahhaa> {to steal and modify a certain Comm Supervisor's phrase}

Questions!

Dark matter answer: Aliens have hidden it behind cloaking fields to keep us

from learning too much too fast. It's a conspiracy. Yep, really.

Neutrino answer: Because we're not really here! All matter is mostly empty

space! It's all energy fields and wide open spaces. For an interesting

article, check out the July 2000 issue of Discover magazine, starting on page

64..... " Gluons "

Any others?

Note: any further questions and answers should be on the 911console-talk

list.....

Jim

: RE: 911:: Full Moon

Okay... *cracking knuckles*

Where is all this dark matter that Hawkins keeps talking about? Why

can we see through it, but yet it has such a gravitational effect on the

galaxies?

And why is it that neutrinos can pass through the Earth without even slowing

down and effect the humans not at all? (That's a thought for you all.

while you are sitting at your consoles, dispatching calls, neutrinos - tiny

imperceptible, smaller than atomic particles - are bombarding you, passing

through your body, down into the floor, through the Earth and out the other

side - without slowing down!)

*hummm????*

just kidding...

annette

<<snip>>

<smug, self satisfied look> any other mysteries of the universe to be

explained?? Ask me, I dare ya!

Jim

<<snip>>

[Guest guest]

In our city, the most loony calls seem to come in from men. We have the one man

that has repeatedly called about " laser " beams being shown into his home. He has

also accused the PD of placing cameras in his home and his vehicle,to take

pictures

of his private areas. He has come by the station and DEMANDED that the hidden

cameras be removed as they are distrubing him, hurting his eyes and make it

impossible for him to do his job...he is a writer, and the flashes from the

cameras

make his eyes hurt. Once, we had a call about a vehicle parked in the middle of

the

street, in the middle of the night. Officers go to area, but no vehicle. As they

are searching the area, we get a call on the radio...there is a man, in vehicle

matching this description, now at a local gas station. Strange thing about him

though...he is out of the vehicle, in front of it on his knees in apparent

prayer.

Freida

RJon wrote:

> In 30 some odd ( and they were odd) years of both sides of the microphone, I

> found that almost all were female. I have difficulty recalling any males,

> making the loony files.

[Guest guest]

We used to keep a very nice 3x5 card file for all of our 414s (old computer

code for mental cases and it has kinda just stuck with us...infact my

partner kris has a vanity lic plate " 414kris " ). Had the persons

name/address/unique preoccupation w/whatever and dates they had called. If

they called w/something out of the ordinary from what was on their card, a

unit was dispatched for a welfare check, and the new problem usually added

to the card. Was quite handy. But that file went away the same time we

could no longer give medical warnings on the air.

Bob in Tacoma

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 00-06-19 10:49:45 EDT, you write:

<<

Don't count on it.. I think the moon's still full.

>>

And Mercury is retrograde -- which means REdoing everything....and mercury

affects communications......ahhhh, till July 23! Just in time for the next

full moon!