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The GB4000 base unit (contact machine) is around $2000 but with the new MOPA amp

(which didn't exist when wrote the book), it adds about $2000 to the cost.

The GB4000 is popular due to ease of use and the ability to program multiple

settings but may not be powerful enough to go deep into bone and tissues without

the amp.

The coil is also powerful and very popular although it requires tremendous

patience and experimentation as you can only choose one frequency at a time. It

is not hard to set up and use.

There is also a homemade detox foot bath you can easily assemble for very

inexpensive cost and many people claim to get relief from it. You can find

instructions in the file section under mold_toxins.pdf.

deb

>

> Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best rife machine

for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in April from

the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of nowhere

because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In the

past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was told

was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for about 8

months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now

I'm seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine &

told me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida &

high mercury levels. He also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000

two times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because

I am also using the bio-cleanse machine at the same time & it is taking toxins

out at the same time as the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out

toxins as your feet are in a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from

home & my appointments are every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic

supplements & pellets & I've only seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every

day & don't know how long I can continue the trip there. I thought if I got my

own machine, I could do my own treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme

treatments & the rife book). It would have to be easy to operate & already set

up. I was thinking about the GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000.

Rosner's book said alot less than that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also

in the middle of having to get a couple of teeth crowned that are almost

entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know what has to be handled first to avoid

really getting sicker. I'm really afraid that I wouldn't know how to program a

rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 & don't even know if

I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it takes years. And

that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had success with lyme

using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was told by a few

people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year (before I

knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I eventually stopped.

I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I shouldn't take it.

So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is safe. I don't know

whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms. I'm so glad I

found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too much. Thank you.

>

> Susie

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Hi,

The GB4000 sells for as little as 1750.00. Your practitioner must have the MOPA

with the GB4000 which would account for the high price. I am not sure that an

ionic footbath would prevent a herx. I have a GB4000, a coil machine and an

ionic foot bath and have never felt improvement from a herx after the footbath.

I wonder how long the doctor ran you on the GB4000 and if he used only the

frequency 432 or the Lyme program listed in the GB4000 Universal frequency list

manual? I find that I do better if I run only 432 for about 30-40 minutes on my

GB4000, but I don't have a MOPA device and only use the handholds. However if

he is using a MOPA you will want to start really slow. Even if he is not using

the MOPA, you will want to start slow and ramp up your time until you feel a

herx which in me takes about a day to come on.

I have been rifing and coiling for about 5 years now, so do not gauge the amount

of time that I am doing with your own situation. I can tolerate much longer

times. I would suggest to your practitioner that he run you only on 432. The

problem with the custom Lyme program built in to the GB4000 is that it uses a

lot of coinfection frequencies at the same time and probably does not stay on

any given frequency longer then 5 minutes which is not enough time to do much

using the hand holds. If he is using the MOPA which is a non contact plasma

device you should feel something, but if he is running 8 frequencies

simultaneously through 8 different channelson the GB 4000 there is a theory that

this could cut back on the amount of killing power of each frequency compared to

what could be achieved if the frequencies are run individually.

I would ask him to make a custom channel of just 432 and keep increasing the

time until you herx. Once you have cleared Lyme, you can focus on the next

coinfection using only a single frequency. As you kill off these organisms

particularly Lyme, your immune system may help fight the rest of the

coinfections.

If your doctor is willing to work with you on the rife machine and he can take

some direction from you, I would go back a few more times to see if you get a

herx. If you don't you may want to look at getting a coil machine. If you have

been doing a lot of herbs in the past, the lyme could also be in a cyst which

might account for not herxing. I find also that homeopathics can really stir

the pot and make me feel pretty lousy for awhile so be careful doing both

homeopathic and rife and taking it slow. The MOPA is a fairly recent addition

to the GB4000 and their aren't many on this list that I know of that has one, so

I can't really speak to it's effectiveness. I would assume that it would work

similar to an EMEM device in terms of eradicating Lyme.

>

> Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best rife machine

for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in April from

the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of nowhere

because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In the

past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was told

was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for about 8

months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now

I'm seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine &

told me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida &

high mercury levels. He also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000

two times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because

I am also using the bio-cleanse machine at the same time & it is taking toxins

out at the same time as the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out

toxins as your feet are in a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from

home & my appointments are every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic

supplements & pellets & I've only seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every

day & don't know how long I can continue the trip there. I thought if I got my

own machine, I could do my own treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme

treatments & the rife book). It would have to be easy to operate & already set

up. I was thinking about the GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000.

Rosner's book said alot less than that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also

in the middle of having to get a couple of teeth crowned that are almost

entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know what has to be handled first to avoid

really getting sicker. I'm really afraid that I wouldn't know how to program a

rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 & don't even know if

I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it takes years. And

that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had success with lyme

using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was told by a few

people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year (before I

knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I eventually stopped.

I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I shouldn't take it.

So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is safe. I don't know

whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms. I'm so glad I

found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too much. Thank you.

>

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Hi, I second what susan says about homeopathy! It can stir the pot like crazy!

Second it requires a good immune system in order to help the body heal. Many of

us with Lyme already suffer from poor immune function. If it hasn't been stirred

to much....I would let the rife and mms do their thing....with lots of detox and

support. Jodie L.

> >

> > Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best rife machine

for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in April from

the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of nowhere

because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In the

past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was told

was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for about 8

months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now

I'm seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine &

told me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida &

high mercury levels. He also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000

two times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because

I am also using the bio-cleanse machine at the same time & it is taking toxins

out at the same time as the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out

toxins as your feet are in a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from

home & my appointments are every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic

supplements & pellets & I've only seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every

day & don't know how long I can continue the trip there. I thought if I got my

own machine, I could do my own treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme

treatments & the rife book). It would have to be easy to operate & already set

up. I was thinking about the GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000.

Rosner's book said alot less than that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also

in the middle of having to get a couple of teeth crowned that are almost

entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know what has to be handled first to avoid

really getting sicker. I'm really afraid that I wouldn't know how to program a

rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 & don't even know if

I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it takes years. And

that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had success with lyme

using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was told by a few

people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year (before I

knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I eventually stopped.

I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I shouldn't take it.

So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is safe. I don't know

whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms. I'm so glad I

found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too much. Thank you.

> >

> > Susie

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Thanks for answering. The doctor runs me for 30 minutes on the GB4000. I don't think it has the MOPA, but he also has a coil machine & a plasma machine (3 machines). After reading Rosner's rife book, I was petrified to even try the rife machine at the doctor's for fear of having a really bad herx, but then nothing happened. He showed me the manual & at a quick glance, I saw that there is a Lyme category with many frequencies, then there were co-infections with their own list of frequencies, but he is only running lyme right now. I questioned him about not feeling anything & he explained that it was not necessary for me to get a herx & that it was still killing the lyme. This doctor has worked with lyme for 18 or 19 years & has

90-95% success rate, so he says. I told him I wanted to work fast, but then I started to feel real lousy every day for 2 weeks. He has me on 4 homeopathic supplements & a combination of about 7 herbs--they're all liquid supplements. So then I had to cut back on the doses & I feel so frustrated all the time. I want to get better fast, but my body can't handle what I want it to. Tell me, what kind of herx do you get from the rife? I'm really afraid to get one at the doctor's office or on the way home. When I was on olive leaf, I had such a few bad episodes of slow, hard heartbeat, shaking hands, feeling like I couldn't breathe & felt like passing out--I even went to the ER the last time. I am afraid that will happen if I get a herx on the rife. Do you use the footbath at the same time as the rife? That's what I do there--my feet are in the water & my hands are holding the bars. I

don't know if he will be receptive to using only 1 frequency if reprogramming is involved. He has a girl that actually sets me up. I'll see what he says. Is 432 the main lyme frequency? Did you use homeopathics for lyme? You have been rifing & coiling for 5 years--are you completely healed or do you have to keep doing it forever?

I'm new to forums completely & am confused because when I go to my mailbox, there are so many messages there & I don't know why. It looks like every message on the forum is in my mailbox. I thought only emails to me would appear. Is there a way to eliminate them from my mailbox, because I can read them on the forum if I want to. I sent Jim an email asking him this, but he didn't answer. I don't know how it works. Thanks.

Susie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 7:09 PMSubject: Re: rife machines & homeopathy

Hi,The GB4000 sells for as little as 1750.00. Your practitioner must have the MOPA with the GB4000 which would account for the high price. I am not sure that an ionic footbath would prevent a herx. I have a GB4000, a coil machine and an ionic foot bath and have never felt improvement from a herx after the footbath. I wonder how long the doctor ran you on the GB4000 and if he used only the frequency 432 or the Lyme program listed in the GB4000 Universal frequency list manual? I find that I do better if I run only 432 for about 30-40 minutes on my GB4000, but I don't have a MOPA device and only use the handholds. However if he is using a MOPA you will want to start really slow. Even if he is not using the MOPA, you will want to start slow and ramp up your time until you feel a herx which in me takes about a day to come on. I have been rifing and coiling for about 5 years now, so do not gauge the amount of time that I am doing

with your own situation. I can tolerate much longer times. I would suggest to your practitioner that he run you only on 432. The problem with the custom Lyme program built in to the GB4000 is that it uses a lot of coinfection frequencies at the same time and probably does not stay on any given frequency longer then 5 minutes which is not enough time to do much using the hand holds. If he is using the MOPA which is a non contact plasma device you should feel something, but if he is running 8 frequencies simultaneously through 8 different channelson the GB 4000 there is a theory that this could cut back on the amount of killing power of each frequency compared to what could be achieved if the frequencies are run individually. I would ask him to make a custom channel of just 432 and keep increasing the time until you herx. Once you have cleared Lyme, you can focus on the next coinfection using only a single frequency. As you kill off these

organisms particularly Lyme, your immune system may help fight the rest of the coinfections. If your doctor is willing to work with you on the rife machine and he can take some direction from you, I would go back a few more times to see if you get a herx. If you don't you may want to look at getting a coil machine. If you have been doing a lot of herbs in the past, the lyme could also be in a cyst which might account for not herxing. I find also that homeopathics can really stir the pot and make me feel pretty lousy for awhile so be careful doing both homeopathic and rife and taking it slow. The MOPA is a fairly recent addition to the GB4000 and their aren't many on this list that I know of that has one, so I can't really speak to it's effectiveness. I would assume that it would work similar to an EMEM device in terms of eradicating Lyme.>> Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best rife machine for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in April from the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of nowhere because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In the past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was told was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for about 8 months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now I'm seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine & told me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high mercury levels. He

also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am also using the bio-cleanse machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time as the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your feet are in a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home & my appointments are every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every day & don't know how long I can continue the trip there. I thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It would have to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot less than that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle of

having to get a couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know what has to be handled first to avoid really getting sicker. I'm really afraid that I wouldn't know how to program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 & don't even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it takes years. And that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had success with lyme using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was told by a few people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year (before I knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I eventually stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I shouldn't take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is safe. I don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms. I'm so glad I found a place to ask questions &

hope I didn't go on & on too much. Thank you.> > Susie>

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I recently read on another group the suggestion to ground oneself after rife

session. This would either be through the use of a grounding mat (designed to

reduce EMFs) or earthing sheets. These pull bad ions from the body

(www.earthing.com and www.earthinginstitute.net have more info). Makes sense to

try.

deb

> >

> > Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best rife machine

for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in April from

the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of nowhere

because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In the

past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was told

was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for about 8

months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now I'm

seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine & told

me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high

mercury levels. He also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two

times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am

also using the bio-cleanse

> machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time as the

rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your feet are in a

container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home & my appointments are

every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only

seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every day & don't know how long I can

continue the trip there. I thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own

treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It

would have to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the

GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot less than

that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle of having to get a

couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know

what has to be handled first to avoid really getting sicker. I'm really afraid

that I wouldn't know how to

> program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 & don't

even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it takes

years. And that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had success

with lyme using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was told by a

few people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year (before

I knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I eventually

stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I shouldn't

take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is safe. I

don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms. I'm so

glad I found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too much. Thank

you.

> >

> > Susie

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Deb,

May I also make the suggestion of spending some time outside

without footwear for 10-20 mins a day.....I often hear how

beneficial this is, might be more appropriate for some since it costs

less to go shoeless. :)

Joe

I recently read on another group the suggestion to ground

oneself after rife session. This would either be through

the use of a grounding mat (designed to reduce EMFs) or

earthing sheets. These pull bad ions from the body

(www.earthing.com and www.earthinginstitute.net have more

info). Makes sense to try.

deb

> >

> > Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help

determining the best rife machine for me to buy & most

reputable place to buy it. I just found out in April from

the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker

punch out of nowhere because I had been tested several

times & tests always came back neg. In the past 25

years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to

& all I was told was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue

etc. I was on organic olive leaf for about 8 months with

my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really

getting anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I

was just sick every day. Now I'm seeing a homeopathic dr.

that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine &

told me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia,

and also have Candida & high mercury levels. He also

has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two times

& no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he

said maybe because I am also using the bio-cleanse

> machine at the same time & it is taking toxins

out at the same time as the rife is killing Lyme. (The

bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your feet are in a

container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home

& my appointments are every 2 weeks. I'm on several

lyme homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only

seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every day &

don't know how long I can continue the trip there. I

thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own

treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments

& the rife book). It would have to be easy to operate

& already set up. I was thinking about the GB-4000.

The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said

alot less than that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm

also in the middle of having to get a couple of teeth

crowned that are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I

don't know what has to be handled first to avoid really

getting sicker. I'm really afraid that I wouldn't know how

to

> program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it

right. I'm 61 & don't even know if I have enough time

left to get better--the books all say it takes years. And

that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone

had success with lyme using homeopathy? I see some posts

about MMS for lyme. I was told by a few people that it

didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year

(before I knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1

drop that I eventually stopped. I was also afraid to

continue because 2 of my doctors said I shouldn't take it.

So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is

safe. I don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy

or just take the mms. I'm so glad I found a place to ask

questions & hope I didn't go on & on too much.

Thank you.

> >

> > Susie

> >

>

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Hi Joe,

Yes, spending time outside is the same thing as using a grounding mat, pad or

band,

however the longer you are grounded (earthed) the better it is for good health!!

This

is the reason the bed pad was produced as it keeps on grounded for a good 8

hours!

Here is part of a post I wrote a while back...

>>>>For some, Earthing is noticed immediately and for some it can even be

overpowering...

This is why it is suggested after an Earthing product is ordered, best to start

walking

barefoot outside on concrete or grass 1 hr daily and increasing by 1 hour each

day.

When the Earthing device arrives, continue Earthing but now with it, again

continue

scaling up... Once 8 hours is reached, most will be able to use their device for

24 hours

if they wish... The more time you Earth, the healthier it is..

For others, the benefits are more subtle they notice them over time... but for

everyone,

their blood is thinned with just a few hours of Earthing, since many Lyimies

have sticky

blood, Earthing should be beneficial at stopping this..

Many Lymies are also hyPOthyroid... Earthing helps to normalize the thyroid...

Less thyroid

meds may be needed once Earthing is started...

http://www.annlouise.com/blog/2010/12/06/the-newest-approach-to-fix-your-thyroid\

\

/

http://www.townsendletter.com/May2010/earthing0510.html

And once you start Earthing, you instantly protect yourself from EMFs.. Sit in

front of a computer

and EMFs will not bother you...

This is one reseller...

http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/category/s?keyword=earthing+products

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Take care,

Jim

> > > >

> > > > Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best

> > rife machine for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just

> > found out in April from the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like

> > a sucker punch out of nowhere because I had been tested several times

> > & tests always came back neg. In the past 25 years, I can't tell you

> > how many doctors I have been to & all I was told was fibromyalgia,

> > chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for about 8 months

> > with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

> > anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every

> > day. Now I'm seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He

> > uses a Vega machine & told me I also have co-infec. of Babesia &

> > Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high mercury levels. He also has 3

> > rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two times & no reaction at

> > all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am also using

> > the bio-cleanse

> > > machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time

> > as the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your

> > feet are in a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home

> > & my appointments are every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic

> > supplements & pellets & I've only seen him for a month now. I feel

> > lousy every day & don't know how long I can continue the trip there. I

> > thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own treatments (I read

> > both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It would have

> > to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the

> > GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot

> > less than that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle

> > of having to get a couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely

> > mercury amalgam & I don't know what has to be handled first to avoid

> > really getting sicker. I'm really afraid that I wouldn't know how to

> > > program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61

> > & don't even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books

> > all say it takes years. And that's if you're doing everything

> > perfectly. Has anyone had success with lyme using homeopathy? I see

> > some posts about MMS for lyme. I was told by a few people that it

> > didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year (before I knew I

> > had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I eventually

> > stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I

> > shouldn't take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying

> > that it is safe. I don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy

> > or just take the mms. I'm so glad I found a place to ask questions &

> > hope I didn't go on & on too much. Thank you.

> > > >

> > > > Susie

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

> --

> " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and

to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

>

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Oh deb,

It was close to 80 in Jax for Christmas!! Ask Lena, she's here and sweaten!

Jim

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best

> > > rife machine for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just

> > > found out in April from the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like

> > > a sucker punch out of nowhere because I had been tested several times

> > > & tests always came back neg. In the past 25 years, I can't tell you

> > > how many doctors I have been to & all I was told was fibromyalgia,

> > > chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for about 8 months

> > > with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

> > > anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every

> > > day. Now I'm seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He

> > > uses a Vega machine & told me I also have co-infec. of Babesia &

> > > Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high mercury levels. He also has 3

> > > rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two times & no reaction at

> > > all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am also using

> > > the bio-cleanse

> > > > machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time

> > > as the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your

> > > feet are in a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home

> > > & my appointments are every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic

> > > supplements & pellets & I've only seen him for a month now. I feel

> > > lousy every day & don't know how long I can continue the trip there. I

> > > thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own treatments (I read

> > > both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It would have

> > > to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the

> > > GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot

> > > less than that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle

> > > of having to get a couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely

> > > mercury amalgam & I don't know what has to be handled first to avoid

> > > really getting sicker. I'm really afraid that I wouldn't know how to

> > > > program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61

> > > & don't even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books

> > > all say it takes years. And that's if you're doing everything

> > > perfectly. Has anyone had success with lyme using homeopathy? I see

> > > some posts about MMS for lyme. I was told by a few people that it

> > > didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year (before I knew I

> > > had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I eventually

> > > stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I

> > > shouldn't take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying

> > > that it is safe. I don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy

> > > or just take the mms. I'm so glad I found a place to ask questions &

> > > hope I didn't go on & on too much. Thank you.

> > > > >

> > > > > Susie

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > --

> > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth

,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> >

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WOW! I live in the NE and it was still pretty weird being 42 degrees! We had a

slight dusting of snow...that disappeared pretty quickly. This is very warm for

us. J.L

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best

> > > > rife machine for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just

> > > > found out in April from the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like

> > > > a sucker punch out of nowhere because I had been tested several times

> > > > & tests always came back neg. In the past 25 years, I can't tell you

> > > > how many doctors I have been to & all I was told was fibromyalgia,

> > > > chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for about 8 months

> > > > with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

> > > > anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every

> > > > day. Now I'm seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He

> > > > uses a Vega machine & told me I also have co-infec. of Babesia &

> > > > Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high mercury levels. He also has 3

> > > > rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two times & no reaction at

> > > > all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am also using

> > > > the bio-cleanse

> > > > > machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time

> > > > as the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your

> > > > feet are in a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home

> > > > & my appointments are every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic

> > > > supplements & pellets & I've only seen him for a month now. I feel

> > > > lousy every day & don't know how long I can continue the trip there. I

> > > > thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own treatments (I read

> > > > both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It would have

> > > > to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the

> > > > GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot

> > > > less than that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle

> > > > of having to get a couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely

> > > > mercury amalgam & I don't know what has to be handled first to avoid

> > > > really getting sicker. I'm really afraid that I wouldn't know how to

> > > > > program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61

> > > > & don't even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books

> > > > all say it takes years. And that's if you're doing everything

> > > > perfectly. Has anyone had success with lyme using homeopathy? I see

> > > > some posts about MMS for lyme. I was told by a few people that it

> > > > didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year (before I knew I

> > > > had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I eventually

> > > > stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I

> > > > shouldn't take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying

> > > > that it is safe. I don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy

> > > > or just take the mms. I'm so glad I found a place to ask questions &

> > > > hope I didn't go on & on too much. Thank you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Susie

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > " Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

> > > really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth

,and to dare to love completely. " -R. Buckminster Fuller

> > >

> >

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Hi Susie,

Most of the time I am pretty good, but I still get an occasional Lyme flare up.

Many in this group believe that doing herbals may encyst the Lyme which would

make the rife less effective. The protocol most of us use here is to stop all

herbals and hit it hard with Rife. If he has you on a bunch of herbs, that

could account for the lack of herx due to encysting. The GB 4000 is so easy to

run a single frequency he just has to enter the single frequency and hit run.

He may have to hit the enter button or the custom button, I can't remember, but

I do it all of the time and I am sure he will know how to do it. You might want

to show him my first post. I do think running only 432 will give you a good

indication if you have a Lyme herx. I have used homeopathics and continue to do

so as I do believe ultimately we want our own bodies to fight these infections.

The Olive Leaf extract is probably killing fungus or Candida and that can cause

a huge herx. Although the herx you describe is similar to a Lyme herx as well.

It really does take about 24 hours for a lyme herx to come on for most people,

so if you herx immediately after a treatment more then likely you are herxing

from some other organism. I know that both Mycoplasma and fungus will cause an

immediate herx. Let us know how you do and what your doctor says about running

only 432 for awhile.

> >

> > Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best rife machine

for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in April from

the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of nowhere

because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In the

past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was told

was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for about 8

months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now I'm

seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine & told

me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high

mercury levels. He also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two

times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am

also using the bio-cleanse

> machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time as the

rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your feet are in a

container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home & my appointments are

every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only

seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every day & don't know how long I can

continue the trip there. I thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own

treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It

would have to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the

GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot less than

that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle of having to get a

couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know

what has to be handled first to avoid really getting sicker. I'm really afraid

that I wouldn't know how to

> program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 & don't

even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it takes

years. And that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had success

with lyme using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was told by a

few people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year (before

I knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I eventually

stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I shouldn't

take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is safe. I

don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms. I'm so

glad I found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too much. Thank

you.

> >

> > Susie

> >

>

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Hii got some frequencies for mycroplasma,lymes and co infections, but i cant find the frequencies, i am using frequncies that came with the machine and few i did write down that i got from this site, but i feel i am still not hexing. unless i am but not realizing it. i was wondering if i can get some frequencies that really seem to work, i have a coil machine.thanksDamariseTo: Lyme_and_Rife From: sueblanton@...Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 23:36:59 +0000Subject: Re: rife machines & homeopathy

Hi Susie,

Most of the time I am pretty good, but I still get an occasional Lyme flare up.

Many in this group believe that doing herbals may encyst the Lyme which would

make the rife less effective. The protocol most of us use here is to stop all

herbals and hit it hard with Rife. If he has you on a bunch of herbs, that

could account for the lack of herx due to encysting. The GB 4000 is so easy to

run a single frequency he just has to enter the single frequency and hit run.

He may have to hit the enter button or the custom button, I can't remember, but

I do it all of the time and I am sure he will know how to do it. You might want

to show him my first post. I do think running only 432 will give you a good

indication if you have a Lyme herx. I have used homeopathics and continue to do

so as I do believe ultimately we want our own bodies to fight these infections.

The Olive Leaf extract is probably killing fungus or Candida and that can cause

a huge herx. Although the herx you describe is similar to a Lyme herx as well.

It really does take about 24 hours for a lyme herx to come on for most people,

so if you herx immediately after a treatment more then likely you are herxing

from some other organism. I know that both Mycoplasma and fungus will cause an

immediate herx. Let us know how you do and what your doctor says about running

only 432 for awhile.

> >

> > Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best rife machine for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in April from the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of nowhere because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In the past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was told was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for about 8 months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now I'm seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine & told me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high mercury levels. He also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am also using the bio-cleanse

> machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time as the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your feet are in a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home & my appointments are every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every day & don't know how long I can continue the trip there. I thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It would have to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot less than that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle of having to get a couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know what has to be handled first to avoid really getting sicker. I'm really afraid that I wouldn't know how to

> program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 & don't even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it takes years. And that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had success with lyme using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was told by a few people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year (before I knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I eventually stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I shouldn't take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is safe. I don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms. I'm so glad I found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too much. Thank you.

> >

> > Susie

> >

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Hi Damarise,

Here are a few frx's used by the group....

FREQUENCIES

432Hz-Lyme

570Hz-Babesia

1583Hz Babs

395Hz-Ehrlichia

832Hz-Bartonella

1518Hz Bart_Jane

465 & 1550Hz-Candida

690 Mycoplasma Fermentens (every other day)

Take care,

Jim

>

> > >

>

> > > Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best rife

machine for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in

April from the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of

nowhere because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In

the past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was

told was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for

about 8 months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now I'm

seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine & told

me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high

mercury levels. He also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two

times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am

also using the bio-cleanse

>

> > machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time as the

rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your feet are in a

container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home & my appointments are

every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only

seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every day & don't know how long I can

continue the trip there. I thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own

treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It

would have to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the

GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot less than

that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle of having to get a

couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know

what has to be handled first to avoid really getting sicker. I'm really afraid

that I wouldn't know how to

>

> > program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 & don't

even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it takes

years. And that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had success

with lyme using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was told by a

few people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year (before

I knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I eventually

stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I shouldn't

take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is safe. I

don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms. I'm so

glad I found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too much. Thank

you.

>

> > >

>

> > > Susie

>

> > >

>

> >

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Can anyone share their experience coiling for Myco at 690? I am just about

ready to give this a go. Curious about die-off.

deb

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> > > >

> >

> > > > Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best rife

machine for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in

April from the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of

nowhere because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In

the past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was

told was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for

about 8 months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now I'm

seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine & told

me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high

mercury levels. He also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two

times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am

also using the bio-cleanse

> >

> > > machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time as

the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your feet are in

a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home & my appointments are

every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only

seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every day & don't know how long I can

continue the trip there. I thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own

treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It

would have to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the

GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot less than

that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle of having to get a

couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know

what has to be handled first to avoid really getting sicker. I'm really afraid

that I wouldn't know how to

> >

> > > program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 &

don't even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it

takes years. And that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had

success with lyme using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was

told by a few people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last

year (before I knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I

eventually stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I

shouldn't take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is

safe. I don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms.

I'm so glad I found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too

much. Thank you.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Susie

> >

> > > >

> >

> > >

> >

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Hi Deb,

My experience has been that the herx from Mycoplasma comes on almost immediately

whereas Lyme always was a 24 hour delay. If you have ever treated Candida, the

herx is similar to Mycoplasma in how fast it comes on. Otherwise the herx is

similar to Lyme you can expect stiff joints and neurological stuff like

headaches, tremors etc. I found that Pinella in large doses really knocks the

Mycoplasma herx out while Burbur doesn't seem to touch it. Lyme is the

opposite, Burbur knocks it out and Pinella doesn't do anything for the Lyme

herx.

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best rife

machine for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in

April from the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of

nowhere because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In

the past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was

told was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for

about 8 months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now I'm

seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine & told

me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high

mercury levels. He also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two

times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am

also using the bio-cleanse

> > >

> > > > machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time as

the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your feet are in

a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home & my appointments are

every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only

seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every day & don't know how long I can

continue the trip there. I thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own

treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It

would have to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the

GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot less than

that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle of having to get a

couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know

what has to be handled first to avoid really getting sicker. I'm really afraid

that I wouldn't know how to

> > >

> > > > program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 &

don't even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it

takes years. And that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had

success with lyme using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was

told by a few people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last

year (before I knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I

eventually stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I

shouldn't take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is

safe. I don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms.

I'm so glad I found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too

much. Thank you.

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > Susie

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

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Hi, ok thanks i will try these frequenies i hope they work, i feel so awful lately. i have an alex levy machine by the way due the frequenices change according to the machineDamariseTo: Lyme_and_Rife From: jimjax2@...Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 03:26:42 +0000Subject: Re: rife machines & homeopathy

Hi Damarise,

Here are a few frx's used by the group....

FREQUENCIES

432Hz-Lyme

570Hz-Babesia

1583Hz Babs

395Hz-Ehrlichia

832Hz-Bartonella

1518Hz Bart_Jane

465 & 1550Hz-Candida

690 Mycoplasma Fermentens (every other day)

Take care,

Jim

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> > > Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best rife machine for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in April from the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of nowhere because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In the past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was told was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for about 8 months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now I'm seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine & told me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high mercury levels. He also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am also using the bio-cleanse

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> > machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time as the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your feet are in a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home & my appointments are every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every day & don't know how long I can continue the trip there. I thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It would have to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot less than that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle of having to get a couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know what has to be handled first to avoid really getting sicker. I'm really afraid that I wouldn't know how to

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> > program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 & don't even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it takes years. And that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had success with lyme using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was told by a few people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year (before I knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I eventually stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I shouldn't take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is safe. I don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms. I'm so glad I found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too much. Thank you.

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The herbal liquid compound I'm on contains organic dipsacus sylvestri,

schisandra, astragalus,kava, sarsaparilla & cat's claw. Not all of these

ingredients are lyme killers, but I do think that somehow maybe even just the

cat's claw could be causing encysting. Maybe the doctor prescribes them

purposefully so that patients don't experience full herx & get disgusted & never

come back. I'm just surmising, but I will ask him next time. He told me it

wasn't necessary to get sick from the rife, and that it was still killing the

lyme even if I didn't get a reaction. I will get clarification next time.

Regarding homeopathics--the bottle I have has ledum pal, several lyme nosodes,

shark cartilage & belladonna. Plus I have another homeopathic bottle just

labeled Lyme II. I asked him which of my supplements was building up my immume

system & he said none of them were. He said they (both the herbs & homeopathic

formulas) were all killing the Lyme. So I told him I wanted something to

support my immune system & he gave me mineral balance pellets. Do your

homeopathics contain lyme & is that standard? His brochure says homeopathics

are usually herbal or plant-based. What do the homeopathics that help you

contain? I'll talk to him about the 432 frequency & see what he says. Thanks,

Susie

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> > > Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best rife

machine for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in

April from the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of

nowhere because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In

the past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was

told was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for

about 8 months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now I'm

seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine & told

me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high

mercury levels. He also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two

times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am

also using the bio-cleanse

> > machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time as the

rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your feet are in a

container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home & my appointments are

every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only

seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every day & don't know how long I can

continue the trip there. I thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own

treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It

would have to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the

GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot less than

that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle of having to get a

couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know

what has to be handled first to avoid really getting sicker. I'm really afraid

that I wouldn't know how to

> > program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 & don't

even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it takes

years. And that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had success

with lyme using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was told by a

few people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year (before

I knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I eventually

stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I shouldn't

take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is safe. I

don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms. I'm so

glad I found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too much. Thank

you.

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Hi Damarise, have a look under Files I just post there the frequencies which we

use abroad (Holland)for the Coilmachine from Levy.

Anyfurther wish you all the best

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machine for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in

April from the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of

nowhere because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In

the past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was

told was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for

about 8 months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now I'm

seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine & told

me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high

mercury levels. He also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two

times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am

also using the bio-cleanse

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> > > machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time as

the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your feet are in

a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home & my appointments are

every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only

seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every day & don't know how long I can

continue the trip there. I thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own

treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It

would have to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the

GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot less than

that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle of having to get a

couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know

what has to be handled first to avoid really getting sicker. I'm really afraid

that I wouldn't know how to

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> > > program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 &

don't even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it

takes years. And that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had

success with lyme using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was

told by a few people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last

year (before I knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I

eventually stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I

shouldn't take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is

safe. I don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms.

I'm so glad I found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too

much. Thank you.

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HI Thanksbut where r the files ..DamariseTo: Lyme_and_Rife From: g.egberts@...Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 00:15:46 +0000Subject: Re: rife machines & homeopathy

Hi Damarise, have a look under Files I just post there the frequencies which we use abroad (Holland)for the Coilmachine from Levy.

Anyfurther wish you all the best

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> > > machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time as the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your feet are in a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home & my appointments are every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every day & don't know how long I can continue the trip there. I thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It would have to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot less than that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle of having to get a couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know what has to be handled first to avoid really getting sicker. I'm really afraid that I wouldn't know how to

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> > > program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 & don't even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it takes years. And that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had success with lyme using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was told by a few people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year (before I knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I eventually stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I shouldn't take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is safe. I don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms. I'm so glad I found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too much. Thank you.

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Hi Susie,

The Homeopathics do not contain any Lyme but only the electromagnetic signature

of the organism. I disagree with your doctor. Homeopathics teach your body to

target certain problem areas. For example the homeopathic of the Lyme Nosode

entrains your immune system to kill Lyme. It is not the Homeopathic that does

the killing, but your immune system. If you were taking a homeopathic of

Candida, it would entrain the body to kill Candida. If you took a sarcode of

say Gallstones it would send a message to the body to work on that problem. If

you did a homeopathic of your blood, it would send the message to your body to

target the pathogens in the blood.

Unfortunately, most ND and MD do not understand the subtle way that homeopathics

work.

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> > > > Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best rife

machine for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in

April from the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of

nowhere because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In

the past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was

told was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for

about 8 months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now I'm

seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine & told

me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high

mercury levels. He also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two

times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am

also using the bio-cleanse

> > > machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time as

the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your feet are in

a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home & my appointments are

every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only

seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every day & don't know how long I can

continue the trip there. I thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own

treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It

would have to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the

GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot less than

that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle of having to get a

couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know

what has to be handled first to avoid really getting sicker. I'm really afraid

that I wouldn't know how to

> > > program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 &

don't even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it

takes years. And that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had

success with lyme using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was

told by a few people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last

year (before I knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I

eventually stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I

shouldn't take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is

safe. I don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms.

I'm so glad I found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too

much. Thank you.

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machine for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in

April from the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of

nowhere because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In

the past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was

told was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for

about 8 months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now I'm

seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine & told

me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high

mercury levels. He also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two

times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am

also using the bio-cleanse

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> > > machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time as

the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your feet are in

a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home & my appointments are

every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only

seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every day & don't know how long I can

continue the trip there. I thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own

treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It

would have to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the

GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot less than

that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle of having to get a

couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know

what has to be handled first to avoid really getting sicker. I'm really afraid

that I wouldn't know how to

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> > > program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 &

don't even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it

takes years. And that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had

success with lyme using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was

told by a few people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last

year (before I knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I

eventually stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I

shouldn't take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is

safe. I don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms.

I'm so glad I found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too

much. Thank you.

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Just to refresh my memory, , if a person has a machine that handles 6 to 8 digit frx, one would simply keep multiplying the lower, 3-digit numbers by 2, and then by 2, etc. before running, yes? I've done this with some of the CAFL frx for things I haven't got in my Lyme series, but I'm not as sure of their effectiveness.Be well,Léna No they are the same regardless of type of machine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I'm new to this group & need some help determining the best rife machine for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in April from the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of nowhere because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In the past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was told was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for about 8 months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now I'm seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine & told me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high mercury levels. He also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am also using the bio-cleanse > > > > > > > machine at the same time & it is taking toxins out at the same time as the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your feet are in a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home & my appointments are every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every day & don't know how long I can continue the trip there. I thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It would have to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot less than that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle of having to get a couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know what has to be handled first to avoid really getting sicker. I'm really afraid that I wouldn't know how to > > > > > > > program a rife machine or even know if I was doing it right. I'm 61 & don't even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it takes years. And that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had success with lyme using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was told by a few people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year (before I knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I eventually stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I shouldn't take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is safe. I don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms. I'm so glad I found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too much. Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Susie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Hi Damarise,

Go to the home page and look to your left, in the margin you will see the files.

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machine for me to buy & most reputable place to buy it. I just found out in

April from the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was like a sucker punch out of

nowhere because I had been tested several times & tests always came back neg. In

the past 25 years, I can't tell you how many doctors I have been to & all I was

told was fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for

about 8 months with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every day. Now I'm

seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He uses a Vega machine & told

me I also have co-infec. of Babesia & Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high

mercury levels. He also has 3 rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two

times & no reaction at all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am

also using the bio-cleanse

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the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as your feet are in

a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from home & my appointments are

every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only

seen him for a month now. I feel lousy every day & don't know how long I can

continue the trip there. I thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own

treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife book). It

would have to be easy to operate & already set up. I was thinking about the

GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000. Rosner's book said alot less than

that. I'm really overwhelmed because I'm also in the middle of having to get a

couple of teeth crowned that are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know

what has to be handled first to avoid really getting sicker. I'm really afraid

that I wouldn't know how to

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don't even know if I have enough time left to get better--the books all say it

takes years. And that's if you're doing everything perfectly. Has anyone had

success with lyme using homeopathy? I see some posts about MMS for lyme. I was

told by a few people that it didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last

year (before I knew I had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I

eventually stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I

shouldn't take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying that it is

safe. I don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy or just take the mms.

I'm so glad I found a place to ask questions & hope I didn't go on & on too

much. Thank you.

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I don't know anything about multiplying them. I have heard this before, but I

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> just found out in April from the Western blot that I have Lyme. It was

> like a sucker punch out of nowhere because I had been tested several

> times & tests always came back neg. In the past 25 years, I can't tell

> you how many doctors I have been to & all I was told was fibromyalgia,

> chronic fatigue etc. I was on organic olive leaf for about 8 months

> with my first LLMD, but quit him because I wasn't really getting

> anywhere. There were no signs of improvement, I was just sick every

> day. Now I'm seeing a homeopathic dr. that specializes in Lyme. He

> uses a Vega machine & told me I also have co-infec. of Babesia &

> Ehrlichia, and also have Candida & high mercury levels. He also has 3

> rife machines. I have been on the GB-4000 two times & no reaction at

> all. I asked him why no herx & he said maybe because I am also using

> the bio-cleanse

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> time as the rife is killing Lyme. (The bio-cleanse takes out toxins as

> your feet are in a container of water). This doctor is 1-1/2 hrs from

> home & my appointments are every 2 weeks. I'm on several lyme

> homeopathic supplements & pellets & I've only seen him for a month

> now. I feel lousy every day & don't know how long I can continue the

> trip there. I thought if I got my own machine, I could do my own

> treatments (I read both Rosner books--10 lyme treatments & the rife

> book). It would have to be easy to operate & already set up. I was

> thinking about the GB-4000. The doctor said they're about $4000.

> Rosner's book said alot less than that. I'm really overwhelmed because

> I'm also in the middle of having to get a couple of teeth crowned that

> are almost entirely mercury amalgam & I don't know what has to be

> handled first to avoid really getting sicker. I'm really afraid that I

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> I'm 61 & don't even know if I have enough time left to get better--the

> books all say it takes years. And that's if you're doing everything

> perfectly. Has anyone had success with lyme using homeopathy? I see

> some posts about MMS for lyme. I was told by a few people that it

> didn't work on lyme. I have it & did use it last year (before I knew I

> had lyme), but was so fatigued on only 1 drop that I eventually

> stopped. I was also afraid to continue because 2 of my doctors said I

> shouldn't take it. So I'm very relieved to hear some of you saying

> that it is safe. I don't know whether to continue with the homeopathy

> or just take the mms. I'm so glad I found a place to ask questions &

> hope I didn't go on & on too much. Thank you.

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