Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Try here http://www.imdb.com/showtimes/ It may not be available in theaters anymore. I am waiting for it to come to Netflix. ~Bonnie --- > I've been anticipating going to see this movie for a > long time. Tried > to find out where it will be playing in the Houston, > Texas and > surrounding areas and turned up nothing on the AMC > Moviewatcher > website. Does anyone know where in Houston and > surrounding areas it > will be playing? Goodness knows if I know! > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 > > Try here > http://www.imdb.com/showtimes/ No, since you will know after this email that you can ask me directly, just check out rumors about this movie with me, aka " The whale. " > > It may not be available in theaters anymore. " Anymore? " as if it has already come out? > I am waiting for it to come to Netflix. > > ~Bonnie > Bonnie and others, trust me. I have been involved with this movie for over ten years. My wife and I are the inspiration for it. The movie is still seeking a theater distributor. Unless/until that happens, you won't see it in theaters. The movie has had standing offers for HBO, other pay-per-view and of course, DVD but none of that will happen unless/until they give up on finding a theater distributor. Next time you hear or read an Internet rumor about this, feel free to ask me here or email me. Thanks for your interest in the movie, Jerry Newport aka " The Whale " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 > > > > Try here > > http://www.imdb.com/showtimes/ > > No, since you will know after this email that you can ask me > directly, just check out rumors about this movie with me, aka " The > whale. " > > > > It may not be available in theaters anymore. > > " Anymore? " as if it has already come out? > > > I am waiting for it to come to Netflix. > > > > ~Bonnie > > > Bonnie and others, trust me. I have been involved with this > movie for over ten years. My wife and I are the inspiration for it. > The movie is still seeking a theater distributor. Unless/until that > happens, you won't see it in theaters. The movie has had standing > offers for HBO, other pay-per-view and of course, DVD but none of > that will happen unless/until they give up on finding a theater > distributor. > > Next time you hear or read an Internet rumor about this, feel > free to ask me here or email me. > > Thanks for your interest in the movie, > > Jerry Newport aka " The Whale " I'm looking forward to seeing the movie myself. I'm afraid to ask more because it would be " spoiler material " but have read the gist of the plot etc. I know it's hard also for movies to " remain true " to life and will sometimes add entertainment value/drama etc etc. I think that can be harder on a person who has a high degree of integrity/honesty and detail orientation. I'm imagining it hasn't been easy. I don't know any rumors other than it should come out within a few months I think? Just curious, does anyone in this group play a role? Perhaps it's been asked before....if so, I'd like a link in that case. By the way, I've rarely posted, mostly lurked off and on. I find it hard sometimes to jump onto threads. (I'm also finding the web interface constantly goes to simple mode and won't stick on thread mode). I suppose I could use email but I'm already feeling spammed enough there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 > > I've been anticipating going to see this movie for a long time. Tried > to find out where it will be playing in the Houston, Texas and > surrounding areas and turned up nothing on the AMC Moviewatcher > website. Does anyone know where in Houston and surrounding areas it > will be playing? Goodness knows if I know! > I'm in the same boat. I saw on wikipedia that it's release was on the 21st already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 > > > > > > Try here > > > http://www.imdb.com/showtimes/ > > > > No, since you will know after this email that you can ask me > > directly, just check out rumors about this movie with me, aka " The > > whale. " > > > > > > It may not be available in theaters anymore. > > > > " Anymore? " as if it has already come out? > > > > > I am waiting for it to come to Netflix. > > > > > > ~Bonnie > > > > > Bonnie and others, trust me. I have been involved with this > > movie for over ten years. My wife and I are the inspiration for it. > > The movie is still seeking a theater distributor. Unless/until that > > happens, you won't see it in theaters. The movie has had standing > > offers for HBO, other pay-per-view and of course, DVD but none of > > that will happen unless/until they give up on finding a theater > > distributor. > > > > Next time you hear or read an Internet rumor about this, > feel > > free to ask me here or email me. > > > > Thanks for your interest in the movie, > > > > Jerry Newport aka " The Whale " > > I'm looking forward to seeing the movie myself. I'm afraid to ask > more because it would be " spoiler material " but have read the gist of > the plot etc. I know it's hard also for movies to " remain true " to > life and will sometimes add entertainment value/drama etc etc. I > think that can be harder on a person who has a high degree of > integrity/honesty and detail orientation. I'm imagining it hasn't > been easy. I don't know any rumors other than it should come out > within a few months I think? Just curious, does anyone in this group > play a role? OMG, hit myself that was dumb way of asking. I meant if others, (besides obviously the Whale (watcher) here), played a role in the movie. Perhaps it's been asked before....if so, I'd like a link > in that case. Ok. Anyhow, awaiting news here....I'm sure you'll tell us when it happens. Is there anything we can do to help influence theatre distributors? I know a bunch in Houston already have asked.(including the person who started this post). I was misled on the October 21st information still out there. Anyhow, thanks for update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 > Just curious, does anyone in this > group > > play a role? > > OMG, hit myself that was dumb way of asking. I meant if others, > (besides obviously the Whale (watcher) here), played a role in the > movie. NO. > > Perhaps it's been asked before....if so, I'd like a link > > in that case. > > Ok. Anyhow, awaiting news here....I'm sure you'll tell us when it > happens. Well, I mentioned this in the Autadvo group and it was ignored but MATW will be shown at the Puerto Vallarta Film Festival on November 12th, 2005. I will not make it since I will be at a conference in Louisiana but it is nice to know that will happen. Jerry Newport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 What name does the movie have there? Is it Mozart and the Whale or " crazy in love " ... How would you feel to go? I mean I guess it would be great because you don't mind travelling and you already know what it's like to be in the audience. I just keep thinking that it would be a nightmare for me. I hope that the movie gets excellent reviews. Camille > > > Just curious, does anyone in this > > group > > > play a role? > > > > OMG, hit myself that was dumb way of asking. I meant if others, > > (besides obviously the Whale (watcher) here), played a role in the > > movie. > > NO. > > > > Perhaps it's been asked before....if so, I'd like a link > > > in that case. > > > > Ok. Anyhow, awaiting news here....I'm sure you'll tell us when it > > happens. > > Well, I mentioned this in the Autadvo group and it was ignored > but MATW will be shown at the Puerto Vallarta Film Festival on > November 12th, 2005. I will not make it since I will be at a > conference in Louisiana but it is nice to know that will happen. > > Jerry Newport > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 > > > > > Just curious, does anyone in this > > > group > > > > play a role? > > > > > > OMG, hit myself that was dumb way of asking. I meant if others, > > > (besides obviously the Whale (watcher) here), played a role in the > > > movie. > > > > NO. > > > > > > Perhaps it's been asked before....if so, I'd like a link > > > > in that case. > > > > > > Ok. Anyhow, awaiting news here....I'm sure you'll tell us when it > > > happens. > > > > Well, I mentioned this in the Autadvo group and it was ignored > > but MATW will be shown at the Puerto Vallarta Film Festival on > > November 12th, 2005. I will not make it since I will be at a > > conference in Louisiana but it is nice to know that will happen. > > > > Jerry Newport > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 A pirated version is already in the BitTorrent system. One can search via: torrentspy.com Mircea Pauca, Bucuresti, Romania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 > > A pirated version is already in the BitTorrent system. > One can search via: torrentspy.com > > Mircea Pauca, Bucuresti, Romania > Oh well, since BitTorrent was invented by an apparent aspie, it is only poetic justice Jerry Newport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 > > > > A pirated version is already in the BitTorrent system. > > One can search via: torrentspy.com > > > > Mircea Pauca, Bucuresti, Romania > > > Oh well, since BitTorrent was invented by an apparent aspie, > it is only poetic justice > > Jerry Newport > Can you use BitTorrent if you only have 46000bps dial-up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 > Can you use BitTorrent if you only have 46000bps dial-up? You can... if you don't mind waiting several days for the movie to download. The good news is you can disconnect partway through, so you're only downloading while you're online; it will resume downloading from where you logged off... I wonder if anyone has a subtitle script to go with the bootlegged video yet? (Preferably one that hasn't been translated from English to Chinese and back...heh.) With my poor auditory processing, I practically need captions to follow dialogue anymore... -- Cody B. / " codeman38 " cody@... http://www.zone38.net/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 > > > Can you use BitTorrent if you only have 46000bps dial-up? > > You can... if you don't mind waiting several days for the movie to > download. The good news is you can disconnect partway through, so > you're only downloading while you're online; it will resume > downloading from where you logged off... > > I wonder if anyone has a subtitle script to go with the bootlegged > video yet? (Preferably one that hasn't been translated from English > to Chinese and back...heh.) With my poor auditory processing, I > practically need captions to follow dialogue anymore... > > -- > Cody B. / " codeman38 " Funny how the inspiration for this movie, myself, won't stoop to stealing a copy off the Internet but others will Jerry Newport > cody@z... > http://www.zone38.net/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Because you're so high and mighty? And we should all follow your example? Though I don't find that amusing... Re: Mozart and The Whale > > > Can you use BitTorrent if you only have 46000bps dial-up? > > You can... if you don't mind waiting several days for the movie to > download. The good news is you can disconnect partway through, so > you're only downloading while you're online; it will resume > downloading from where you logged off... > > I wonder if anyone has a subtitle script to go with the bootlegged > video yet? (Preferably one that hasn't been translated from English > to Chinese and back...heh.) With my poor auditory processing, I > practically need captions to follow dialogue anymore... > > -- > Cody B. / " codeman38 " Funny how the inspiration for this movie, myself, won't stoop to stealing a copy off the Internet but others will Jerry Newport > cody@z... > http://www.zone38.net/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 > > Because you're so high and mighty? No, it is about morality not arrogance. And we should all follow your example? > > Though I don't find that amusing... > I don't find dishonesty and theft of creative propery amusing, either. Just keep in mind that whatever is stolen is far from the final version of the movie. It was screened at Syracuse University last weekend at an event for Doug Biklen and even that version is still a " rough cut " in the opinion of the producer who attended. Jerry Newport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 > > > > Because you're so high and mighty? > > No, it is about morality not arrogance. > > And we should all follow your example? > > > > Though I don't find that amusing... > > > I don't find dishonesty and theft of creative propery amusing, > either. Just keep in mind that whatever is stolen is far from the final > version of the movie. It was screened at Syracuse University last > weekend at an event for Doug Biklen and even that version is still > a " rough cut " in the opinion of the producer who attended. > > Jerry Newport > If someone who would never stand a chance of seeing something any other way were to download and watch a " rough cut " , in order to know what you were talking about, what exactly would they be stealing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 > If someone who would never stand a chance of seeing something any > other way were to download and watch a " rough cut " , in order to > know what you were talking about, what exactly would they be stealing? You know that you wouldn't be able to afford it on DVD/Video/hologram/ whatever even in 20 years? If I create something that is a luxury, I should have the right to decide how I want to sell it, even if that means some people won't be able to use my item because of how I sell it I happen to agree with Jerry on this. The film company has the right to say, " Hey, you want this, pay for this. " Or even, " We aren't going to sell it in a way that you can buy it. " You might make a different decision when you make a film, and that's your right too. Heck, your film may even be more popular because of it - it may be your competitive advantage. But it isn't your place to force that on someone else. Your place is in not supporting Jerry's film if you think the distribution model sucks or the price is too high. As a slight tangent, I look at all the software piracy I see, with people stealing Windows and Office. I wonder how much more popular Linux and some of the free office suites would be if everyone that is currently stealing Windows and Office decided to use software they were legally entitled to instead? We might not even have the monopoly we have today... Heck, people might be bitching about how Word doesn't properly open OpenOffice documents, and giving that as a reason they need to switch to OpenOffice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 magnificat_2003 wrote: > > If someone who would never stand a chance of seeing something any > other way were to download and watch a " rough cut " , in order to know > what you were talking about, what exactly would they be stealing? > Especially since this movie was made so long ago. The chances of someone actually putting this movie on the market after all this time is probably slim to none. As I recall it is something like 10 years ago that this movie was made. I would probably be the first time in history that a movie sat around for that long before making it onto the market. Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 wrote: > > I happen to agree with Jerry on this. The film company has the right > to say, " Hey, you want this, pay for this. " Or even, " We aren't > going to sell it in a way that you can buy it. " But this film is not available at any price and probably never will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 > > > > I happen to agree with Jerry on this. The film company has the right > > to say, " Hey, you want this, pay for this. " Or even, " We aren't > > going to sell it in a way that you can buy it. " > > But this film is not available at any price and probably never will be. > Yes. That was what I gathered from reading Jerry's posts. It is not going to be distributed. It may have a few private showings in America but that wouldn't help a hermit in one of the remotest areas in Britain. I was merely asking how having their unfinished film seen by someone who would not see it under any other circumstances could possibly affect the film makers. I do not feel this has been answered> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 > As I recall it is something like 10 years ago that this movie was > made. It would probably be the first time in history that a movie > sat around for that long before making it onto the market. Not quite. There have been a few others, but certainly not very many. One of D. Wood Jr.'s films ( " Plan 9 From Outer Space " , IIRC, but don't hold me to that) went unreleased for 23 years because Wood couldn't come up with the money to pay to have the film developed. --PSK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 wrote: > > I happen to agree with Jerry on this. The film company has the right > > to say, " Hey, you want this, pay for this. " Or even, " We aren't > > going to sell it in a way that you can buy it. " and redhottech responded: >But this film is not available at any price and probably never will be. If I wrote a novel and couldn't find a publisher, or painted a picture and couldn't place it with a gallery, I might decide to give the novel/picture away. But I sure would be angry if someone stole it from me. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 If I'd written a novel (I have written a short story), or created a piece of art, and couldn't find a publisher/gallery to showcase my work, that wouldn't mean I would not or could not show people what I've created. There are other avenues of distribution, one of which is the Internet. If I recall correctly, Bram Cohen, creator of Bit-Torrent is working with some Hollywood types to create a kind of shop, where you can legitimately buy Movies and TV Shows for download through the Torrent setup... Movies like Mozart And The Whale, one's that can't make cinema would benefit greatly from such a setup. GA Re: Mozart and The Whale wrote: > > I happen to agree with Jerry on this. The film company has the right > > to say, " Hey, you want this, pay for this. " Or even, " We aren't > > going to sell it in a way that you can buy it. " and redhottech responded: >But this film is not available at any price and probably never will be. If I wrote a novel and couldn't find a publisher, or painted a picture and couldn't place it with a gallery, I might decide to give the novel/picture away. But I sure would be angry if someone stole it from me. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 > > > > > > Because you're so high and mighty? > > > > No, it is about morality not arrogance. > > > > And we should all follow your example? > > > > > > Though I don't find that amusing... > > > > > I don't find dishonesty and theft of creative propery amusing, > > either. Just keep in mind that whatever is stolen is far from the final > > version of the movie. It was screened at Syracuse University last > > weekend at an event for Doug Biklen and even that version is still > > a " rough cut " in the opinion of the producer who attended. > > > > Jerry Newport > > > > If someone who would never stand a chance of seeing something any other way were to download and watch a " rough cut " , in order to know what you were talking about, what exactly would they be stealing? > > They are stealing what is the current state of the project which is NOT intended to be publicly available. It will eventually be available, legally so there is no reason to cater to internet piracy. Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 > > > If I'd written a novel (I have written a short story), or created a piece of > art, and couldn't find a publisher/gallery to showcase my work, that > wouldn't mean I would not or could not show people what I've created. There > are other avenues of distribution, one of which is the Internet. If I recall > correctly, Bram Cohen, creator of Bit-Torrent is working with some Hollywood > types to create a kind of shop, where you can legitimately buy Movies and TV > Shows for download through the Torrent setup... Movies like Mozart And The > Whale, one's that can't make cinema would benefit greatly from such a setup. > > GA > GA, " Can't make cinema " is your opinion and not yet established as a fact. MATW will find an audience eventually. Your gratutious insults are not appreciated. Jerry Newport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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