Guest guest Posted June 16, 2000 Report Share Posted June 16, 2000 << No smoking in our building. That is why God made front and back porches >> Are your porches covered? The last remodel of our facility, there are no over hangs at all to protect ANY employee who wishes to step outside to get out of the building. It's been so long since I've been able to smoke inside that it's no longer a problem for me, which you'd think would aid in quitting but the minute I step outside--- you got it, I light up. Jon P - don't let your craving get the best of you - I think that if you were to sneak a smoke inside you'd be looking for a new job. You probably could violate any other department rule with minimal discipline but light up just once, they'd probably show you the door! And I agree with L - instead of being a " smoke " free work place, it should be " tobacco " free. But since smokers aren't protected by any law that I'm aware of, we are allowed to be discriminated against. Chewers are allowed to get away with it because there have been no claims of problems from " second hand chew " . Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2000 Report Share Posted June 16, 2000 In the center I want to work in there is no smoking allowed in the building. I don't smoke and never have. Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2000 Report Share Posted June 16, 2000 >place does not end up reeking like a pit.< No smoking in our building. That is why God made front and back porches. I am a smoker but I don't smoke at work. After the 1st smoke in a building, it does " reek like a pit " , and so do the people coming in from smoking outside. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2000 Report Share Posted June 16, 2000 We have administration that smoke, so they smoke in the break room. The air intake for the a/c is in the break room, so that when someone lights one up, we all get to share it. I smoked for 32 1/2 years, and loved every cigarette, but after a triple bypass, I am smoke-free now for 7 yrs. I guess I resent that those who smoke still do it in the building. I also have a large amount of the officers who dip and then want to spit in our trash cans. We hide the trash cans under the counters to keep them from being used as a spittoon. I wish they would make the building tobacco free, but as along as the higher up's smoke, etc, I guess we will all have a cigarette break when someone lights up. Larew NC911@... Photos by NC911 http://members1.clubphoto.com/john63268 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2000 Report Share Posted June 16, 2000 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<snip>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is anyone on the list allowed to smoke at the console while working?? How does everyone feel about it? M. Goldman <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<snip>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our facility where we are located is also home to the jail and all the sheriff offices. The sheriff and chief deputy are both heavy, heavy smokers......therefore under their administration (the past seven years), smoking is permitted in the building. More specifically.....smoking is allowed in our small, no windows, poor vents, 20x20 room. I can barely stand it. With our current turnover we've had the first of this year, there are only three dispatchers left out of our 8 full time that smoke. So this helps. The rules are, they are not supposed to smoke at the console. They are supposed to go stand in the corner, but once again...when you're in a small room with no air circulation, what difference does it make? Plus....many times, they bring the ashtray to the console. What bothers me and irritates me the most is when two non-smoking dispatchers are working, and then an officer, the sheriff, or someone else comes in and lights up. That really gets me upset. I don't want to step on any toes of our smoking list members, but I feel that is very inconsiderate. But there again, there is not a No Smoking policy so they are in their rights. But it makes me want to make a " No Smoking " sign to put on the door when I am working with another non-smoker. After I've worked an 8 shift with a smoker, I go home with a sore throat and at times, even a cough. I really don't think it's right for me to have to put up with that, but I'm not sure what I can do. Like I said, our sheriff is a heavy smoker, as well as our communications director. About 3 of us non-smoking dispatchers are just about ready to say something because it's really starting to bother us, but we know we will be met with opposition and will not be taken seriously. I don't have anything against smokers and nor would I have a problem with them going on smoke breaks every hour or so. They could easily go back in the jail or step outside, or I would even be thankful if they would just step out of the dispatch room and into the hallway!! Anyone had similar problems and/or have suggestions on how we might handle this? -------------------------------------------------------------- Cain 9-1-1 Dispatcher Randolph County Communications 155 E. South Street Winchester, Indiana 47394 mcain@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2000 Report Share Posted June 16, 2000 Is anyone on the list allowed to smoke at the console while working?? Not allowed in any of the Indiana State Police post... Or for that matter... I don't think in any state facility. From a 3 pack a day man, who finally managed to quit... I'm glad. Weintraut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2000 Report Share Posted June 16, 2000 --- luvva001@... wrote: > something i have been thinking about posting for > awhile, but kept forgetting, > is this... > Is anyone on the list allowed to smoke at the > console while working?? Not in ANY CA State building, or state vehicle. When I worked for another agency prior to this one (a consolidated PSAP), county buildings went " smoke free " several years before I left county service. At that time, I was NOT a smoker, but smoke didn't bother me (at the console). I didn't have much sympathy for the smokers " jonesing " next to me, though, when they bitched about it. You need a break, go outside and smoke! Bitching about being unable to chain-smoke at the console was a bit much... I am now a smoker (didn't start until I was 40, quit a couple of times - once even for four full months, but .... I apparently like to smoke.) <shrugging> The state regulation prohibits smoking in state buildings (or vehicles) or within 15 feet of any doorway. This lets folks go in and out without braving clouds of second-hand smoke just to enter or exit. We tend to cheat a little bit at our Comm Center and I think a tape measure would most likely provide evidence of a distance violation, as many of the dispatchers who smoke will add one or two extensions to their headset cords (depends on which radio console they're working) and stretch outside just around the corner of the building to catch smoke breaks without requiring anyone to cover their consoles for them. Call-takers on a smoke break leave the back door open a crack to hear the phones ring so they can dash back in to answer calls. (That's during nice weather and if there isn't a prevailing breeze to blow ANY smoke back into the Comm Center. Otherwise they wait for an official " cover me " break, disconnect from the console, and nobody expects any dashing back before that cigarette is down to the filter..) During busy periods, fewer smoke breaks are taken (either officially or casually, connected or disconnected) and if it's been more than two or three hours since anybody's been able to get up to TAKE a break - for ANY purpose - the folks needing restroom breaks always get first dibs before any smoker goes outside to satisfy the nicotine craving(s). Chances are the smoker will try to take one of those " stay connected, crack the door " kinds of quick smokes, if it's been that busy. They are all very considerate of their partners, working so closely with them that their preferences don't seem to be any kind of barrier. We have some dispatchers who are very sensitive to smoke and the shifts are mixed with smokers and non-smokers. It's not like the " olden days " when the smokers belittled non-smokers for their frailties. <wry expression, remembering...> And the non-smokers (in the Comm Center) regularly offer to cover for smokers so they can take an opportunity to dash outside to practice their filthy habits. They may not approve of the addiction, but they don't hold it against anyone. (Probably because the smokers ARE considerate of the non-smokers.) We've got a really close-knit group of dispatchers. As a contrast to this, several officers wandering past a smoker outside the Center have made fairly snide comments about diminished air quality, moral weakness, laziness, or other " witty " jabs related to the negative aspects of smoking. Oh, gosh, ya think we don't know about the health hazards or social stigma? Thanks for bringing it to our attention! We'll just have to put our cigarettes out and never, ever smoke again.... it's a good thing [some officer] had the presence of mind to inform us about it! Whoo hoo, and the money we'll save now! It IS a stinky habit, in addition to being unhealthy. But I wonder what difference that makes to someone who spends the majority of his/her time driving around in a patrol unit, or sitting in a restaurant or whatever, nowhere near the Comm Center? Some dispatcher's smoke break bothers 'em that much? (We're not talking about excessive breaks causing missed radio traffic, or significant others trying to get their sweeties to quit...) I was REALLY surprised to read some posts indicating that anybody IS still allowed to smoke inside the building, and at a console, no less! ===== Happy to be here, proud to serve. Olmstead http://www.gryeyes.com __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2000 Report Share Posted June 16, 2000 The center I worked at originally went through the transition from smoking at the console to no smoking, and my current center originally had a smoking lounge and then went through the transition of no smoking in the building, and the smokers have all seem to have taken it in stride. Or at least have grumbled quietly. As one who's never had the desire to take a puff, and one who's equally distainful of the smell of second hand smoke, I noticed a profound change in working conditions after going through those transitions. Being stuck at a console with somebody smoking next to me - even if it was just one smoke every couple of hours - was enough to nauseate me and get me sneezing. Nothing like having a trainer who smoked! The job is stressful enough without the added stress of smelling somebody's smoke, for those of us who find it unpleasant. In the dispatch environment, it's as bad or worse as somebody reheating leftover fish or cooking up a bag of burnt popcorn in the comm center kitchen, and that can permeate a control room faster than a bad rumor. Now as a supervisor, I'll accomodate our smokers with time off the board to grab a smoke break, if staffing and traffic load allows, and I think this is reasonable (moreso, anyhow, than establishing a one-puff and no-exhalting till you're off duty and out of the building rule!). But I have very little sympathy for the restriction against smoking in the building. I don't see the restriction as a violation of anybody's rights - but rather meeting an obligation for maintaining a healthy and sanitary workplace. Until PSAPs come equipped with Maxwell Smart brand plexiglass, vaccuum-sealed Cones Of Silence And Smoking (COSAS) which had rotate from the ceiling (I think PEI may be working on a version of those, compatible with VESTA) to permit a working dispatcher to smoke like a 5th alarm without bothering those of us who like our air fresh and clean, I don't see any other answer. Next week on the Console: Uncontrolled Flatulence In The Comm Center: Should There Be A Law? ;> -rdl 911magz/SJFire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2000 Report Share Posted June 16, 2000 Several years back when I worked for a well-known city, they allowed smoking at the consoles. Mind you, this was back in '91- the anit-smoking movement was there, but it was in its infancy. We had many smokers on the mid shift. The smoke was so thick in there that you could barely see. I went home every morning smelling like I had been in a bar all night. The gross part was that the dispatchers who smoked at the console would rub their cigarettes out on the side of the equipment. And when you washed the work area, the rag was covered with tar. -Ken >>>>>>>>> something i have been thinking about posting for awhile, but kept forgetting, is this... Is anyone on the list allowed to smoke at the console while working?? How does everyone feel about it? i smoke and i would not smoke unless it was the midnight shift, however i wish i could smoke at work. One day a few weeks ago it was so busy i did nt have an officer in the station to cover the phones for me for almost the entire shift and i would have welcomed the opportunity to smoke in the dispatch center. If smoking were allowed i think there should be a limit of maybe 1 smoke every 2 hours or something so that the whole place does not end up reeking like a pit. Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2000 Report Share Posted June 16, 2000 Our center allows smoking in the squad room, where anyone can go to take their break. Often, people sneak off into the restrooms to do it, and if you are the next one in there, it's like walking into a pool hall. If people want to smoke, it's okay with me, but I wish they would do it in designated areas. GOING TO VENT NOW.......We have programs in our department for just about every mental and physical addiction there is, except eating disorders. Just read an article in PEOPLE magazine that said what I've been saying for years....Fat bashing is the last acceptable prejudice. After all, you can actually live without nicotine, alcohol, or drugs, but try to live without food....it ain't gonna work. When I ordered new uniforms the last time, the salesman asked me if I was pregnant. I told him, " NO, I'm just fat! I haven't got a problem with it, do you? " DONE VENTING! Thanks for listening, Lyn magik@... Re: 911:: smoking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2000 Report Share Posted June 17, 2000 , Our entire 911 building, the entire Police Services Center, and the jail are all smoke-free facilities, all by local ordinance. My suggestion would be to talk to the City Council or County Commission, whatever the governing body is, and see how receptive they are to an ordinance banning smoking in city or county buildings. That takes it out of the Sheriff's hands. I don't know if you know any of them personally or not, but if you did and went to them quietly, explained what a tough position you are in, maybe they could pass the ordinance and leave you out of it. If you do that, be sure to mention the liability issues if smoking-related health problems occur as a result of the second-hand smoke you are exposed to on the job! Liability can bring about change sometimes when nothing else works.... > Re: 911:: smoking > >Our facility where we are located is also home to the jail and all the >sheriff offices. The sheriff and chief deputy are both heavy, heavy >smokers......therefore under their administration (the past seven years), >smoking is permitted in the building. More specifically.....smoking is >allowed in our small, no windows, poor vents, 20x20 room. I can barely >stand it. With our current turnover we've had the first of this year, there >are only three dispatchers left out of our 8 full time that smoke. So this >helps. > The rules are, they are not supposed to smoke at the console. They are >supposed to go stand in the corner, but once again...when you're in a small >room with no air circulation, what difference does it make? Plus....many >times, they bring the ashtray to the console. What bothers me and irritates >me the most is when two non-smoking dispatchers are working, and then an >officer, the sheriff, or someone else comes in and lights up. That really >gets me upset. I don't want to step on any toes of our smoking list >members, but I feel that is very inconsiderate. But there again, there is >not a No Smoking policy so they are in their rights. But it makes me want >to make a " No Smoking " sign to put on the door when I am working with >another non-smoker. > After I've worked an 8 shift with a smoker, I go home with a sore throat >and at times, even a cough. I really don't think it's right for me to have >to put up with that, but I'm not sure what I can do. Like I said, our >sheriff is a heavy smoker, as well as our communications director. About 3 >of us non-smoking dispatchers are just about ready to say something because >it's really starting to bother us, but we know we will be met with >opposition and will not be taken seriously. > I don't have anything against smokers and nor would I have a problem >with them going on smoke breaks every hour or so. They could easily go back >in the jail or step outside, or I would even be thankful if they would just >step out of the dispatch room and into the hallway!! > Anyone had similar problems and/or have suggestions on how we might >handle this? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2000 Report Share Posted June 17, 2000 YES!!! There should be, as well as a law against stinky perfume!! (or at least a rule that you put a small dab behind your ear, don't bathe in it!) Kathy Next week on the Console: Uncontrolled Flatulence In The Comm Center: Should There Be A Law? ;> -rdl 911magz/SJFire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2000 Report Share Posted June 17, 2000 Our dispatchers are not allowed to smoke inside. I tend to be very tolerant, but I have to say I am glad. I would have a difficult time working the hours we put in in a place that reeked of smoke. This is not to mention that a lot of times, heavy smoke tends to set off all my allegies. It is bad enough with dust everywhere....add in smoke, and I think I would be the one calling for medical assistance. I know that it doesn't seem fair to not allow smokers to smoke..but if most communications rooms are like ours, you don't have a way to quickly clear the air and being stuck in a room for 8,10,12 or more hours breathing recycled smoke....is just not appealing. Freida luvva001@... wrote: > something i have been thinking about posting for awhile, but kept forgetting, > is this... > Is anyone on the list allowed to smoke at the console while working?? How > does everyone feel about it? i smoke and i would not smoke unless it was the > midnight shift, however i wish i could smoke at work. One day a few weeks ago > it was so busy i did nt have an officer in the station to cover the phones > for me for almost the entire shift and i would have welcomed the opportunity > to smoke in the dispatch center. If smoking were allowed i think there should > be a limit of maybe 1 smoke every 2 hours or something so that the whole > place does not end up reeking like a pit. > > M. Goldman > Pelham Police Dept. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2000 Report Share Posted June 17, 2000 OHHHhhhhh yes!! Our problem in this area isn't from the dispatchers.....but the officers!! I came in the station door yesterday, and one of the detectives was sitting in briefing....could tell he was in the building as soon as I opened the security doors to the station!! Freida dsptchmom@... wrote: > YES!!! There should be, as well as a law against stinky perfume!! (or at least a rule that you put a small dab behind your ear, don't bathe in it!) > Kathy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2000 Report Share Posted June 17, 2000 , I was a smoker for too many years to recall.I know exactly what you mean when you say you can use a smoke. However,I think most will agree with me when I say quit. In addition,I believe most of the control of smoking rules have been taken over by federal,state and local regs. And hardly any workplaces now a days permit smoking. rick d'atrio delray beach,fl >Is anyone on the list allowed to smoke at the console while working?? How ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2000 Report Share Posted June 17, 2000 WELL WE DISPATCHE EMS ONLY, WE RUN 2 DISPATCHERS FROM 8AM TO MIDNITE MONDAY THRU FRIDAY, AND ONE DISPATCHER FROM MIDNITE TO 8AM THRU THE WEEK AND FROM MIDNITE ON FRIDAY NITE UNIL 8AM ON MONDAY. AS FOR SMOKING, IF U ARE ALONE AND WANNA SMOKE, MORE POWER TO YA, IF YOU ARE WITH SOMEONE AND THEY DONT WANT U TO SMOKE, WELL THEN ITS OUTSIDE YOU GO. AS FORR BREAKS, IF WE ARE WITH SOMEONE ONE OF US CAN LEAVE AND GO GET FOOD, WE ALSO HAVE A FULL SIZE STOCKED KITCHEN THAT WE CAN USE RIGHT OFF OUR COM CENTER... SO I THINK WE HAVE IT GOOD HERE. WONT GO HUNGRY JIM > >Reply-To: 911consoleegroups >To: 911consoleegroups >Subject: Re: 911:: smoking >Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:52:26 -0700 > >Our City Buildings went smoke free. How ever those persons who worked in >a private office were allowed to smoke.(enter at your own risk) Now >being a smoker and working Mids 1200-0800, ALONE, I asked if I could >smoke on my shift. Nope, wouldn't allow it. The room was air conditioned >and had a huge electronic air cleaner as well. Still no smoking in the >room. Oh well guess one can never figger the brass in charge. I was >going to complain that perfume made my eyes water, but what the Hay. Why >stir the pot to much. There was a small outside patio where it was ok to >smoke. I did put up a sign stating " Smoking Area, If You Dont Smoke You >Will Be Asked To Leave " . Caught some heat from that, never understood >why, it was a smoking area.{:-} >Vern >Retired >Served Proudly > > Janusauskas wrote: > > > > Kathy's post reminded me of one other point: > > > > In the places where people have the sense to keep the smokers from > > poisoning > > the innocent in the building, you will find the smokers demanding a > > sheltered area outside to be provided. I don't think it's > > unreasonable to > > expect the smokers to go anywhere of their choosing on their lunch > > break > > (their own time) and smoke off the employer's property. > > > > The idea of asking, or even requireing employers to assist employees > > in any > > form of self-destructive behavior just doesn't add up to me. > > > > -Matt > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2000 Report Share Posted June 17, 2000 Our City Buildings went smoke free. How ever those persons who worked in a private office were allowed to smoke.(enter at your own risk) Now being a smoker and working Mids 1200-0800, ALONE, I asked if I could smoke on my shift. Nope, wouldn't allow it. The room was air conditioned and had a huge electronic air cleaner as well. Still no smoking in the room. Oh well guess one can never figger the brass in charge. I was going to complain that perfume made my eyes water, but what the Hay. Why stir the pot to much. There was a small outside patio where it was ok to smoke. I did put up a sign stating " Smoking Area, If You Dont Smoke You Will Be Asked To Leave " . Caught some heat from that, never understood why, it was a smoking area.{:-} Vern Retired Served Proudly Janusauskas wrote: > > Kathy's post reminded me of one other point: > > In the places where people have the sense to keep the smokers from > poisoning > the innocent in the building, you will find the smokers demanding a > sheltered area outside to be provided. I don't think it's > unreasonable to > expect the smokers to go anywhere of their choosing on their lunch > break > (their own time) and smoke off the employer's property. > > The idea of asking, or even requireing employers to assist employees > in any > form of self-destructive behavior just doesn't add up to me. > > -Matt > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2000 Report Share Posted June 17, 2000 I also have a large amount of the officers who dip and then want to spit in our trash cans. We hide the trash cans under the counters to keep them from being used as a spittoon. > Larew -------------------- We have the same problem here, even though we have a tobacco free building and tobacco free in any county property including cruisers. They still chew tobacco in the building though and spit in the trash cans. I got quite a chuckle out of a recent note left by a Lt on the bulletin board. Posted along with it was a copy of the tobacco policy, asking people not to spit in the trash cans because nobody wants to clean it up or smell it...he went further to say you have several options swallow it before you come in the building (yucky)!! or spit in your shirt pocket (yucky)!! further tobacco use is not allowed in the building and if you continue to chew tobacco a surgeon will cut off most of your lip so you won't be able to spit at all. (I got a good laugh out of that note).Even though I am a smoker I would not want to smoke in the building. I don't want to offend others that choose not to smoke and it is not so great for the computers, I've seen rooms where they are allowed to smoke and many careless people let their ashes fall in the keyboards etc....Even though it sucks to stand in 20 degree weather to smoke it is my choice...unlike the people that would have to put up with the 2nd hand smoke etc if I was allowed to smoke in the building. Sara Winfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2000 Report Share Posted June 17, 2000 > Next week on the Console: Uncontrolled Flatulence In The Comm Center: Should > There Be A Law? > ;> > -rdl > 911magz/SJFire ------------------ Only for deputies that just had Taco Bell, I can only stand it if it's another dispatcher then it is OK. As long as I can febreeze their butt from time to time. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2000 Report Share Posted June 18, 2000 At 04:53 AM 06/18/2000 -0400, you wrote: >Hey Matt, > >Hang on a second what if the employee's want to go outside for a breath of >fresh air. If it is snowing or raining don't they have a right to expect >some shelter??? Or " Smoke off the employer's property " Matt I don't >suppose you have your own agenda here do ya??? Look I am a smoke I do NOT >smoke in the building it's not allowed and I would not even if it was, >because there are other people who do not smoke. I DO think it would be >unreasonable to tell employee's that they have to leave the property!! I >guess everyone has their own opinion and you know what they say about that > > >doug Along the lines of this topic, some might find it interesting that the local Sheriff's Office (but not one of my employers) came out with a new policy near the end of last year that no employee can smoke while in uniform at all. All dispatchers, CO's, deputies, etc. wear a uniform, so this pretty much makes smoking impossible while on duty (if you get caught, that is). I don't smoke, and must say I'm glad no one can smoke in our building. I don't know if I agree with the Sheriff's Office's policy or not, because I can kind of see both sides of it. Just thought I'd throw that out there for you smokers to ponder.... Guthrie -------------------------------------- Communications Officer Trotwood, OH PD http://www.trotwood.org/police -------------------------------------- Police Officer Township (Montgomery Co, OH) PD http://www.cmplus.com/public/ptpd.htm -------------------------------------- mailto:cwguth@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2000 Report Share Posted June 18, 2000 Our county went to a non smoking policy several years ago. No smoking is allowed inside any county building or inside any county vehicle. I as a Dispatcher locked, by myself, in a small room for 8 hours at a time rebelled. But I adhered to the policy of no smoking in the building. The only choice we had on evenings or midnight's was to have a jail officer come relieve us. But if they even even came down we were lucky. Answering the phone was a plus and they were totally scared of learning to talk on the radio. when we could get them to come down we had to stay within earshot of the comm room so we could run back if someone called on the radio or 911 rang. I did the checking with wage and hour and Fair Labor Standards Act people but found out, other than making sure we were paid for each hour we worked and overtime over 80 hours in two weeks, everything else was a benefit at the discretion of the employer. Breaks, lunch hours, covered smoking areas, health insurance, good retirement plans, wage increases, etc. are all just benefits at the discretion of the employer. It is much nicer now, the administration has fought long and hard and we are finally getting to where there are two people per shift. We do the calltaker/dispatcher combo thing for police/fire/ems. We just had our first contract ratified last week with the FOP and takes effect the 28th of this month. It does not have anything to do with smokers rights but does stipulate two 15 min breaks and a 30 min lunch per 8 hour shift. Basically what I am trying to get across is other than paying you for the time you actually work there are no federal laws giving you anything, its all extra benefits. Just my thoughts. Doug in Leavenworth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2000 Report Share Posted June 18, 2000 At our dpt smoking is not allowed inside. There are only two areas allowed for smoking, one is at the loading dock behind the kitchen. The other is at the employee's entrance. Last year the dpt. put up a cover and fenced in this enclosure as it is by the door to the booking area that bondspersons (gotta by PC you know) and their heathern clients exit through. Last night as I left for supper during a nice little rain shower (sorry Kristy) there were some folks waiting outside for the bondsment and wanted to go in, sorry no can do. Hopefully they are going to put a ceiling fan in there before long, it do get stuffy, I don't smoke but do like to get out of the building, also my Lt. occasionally uses this as a way to have a private conference. Sgt Currey Rutherford County SO, Tn My thoughts, my feelings, my foot in my mouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2000 Report Share Posted June 18, 2000 Re: 911:: smoking > It IS a stinky habit, in addition to being unhealthy. ------------------------------------------------- The last cigarette I smokes, cigars don't count OK, was in the radio room at our old jail, All hell had broken loose, one of the guys came in and I asked for a cigarette, Marlboro, my favorite, I smoked it and mellowed out. I still want one very now and then but thats been close to 15 years and I don't miss them, welllllllll, not to much anyway. Oh by the way, I do hang out with the smokers out back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2000 Report Share Posted June 19, 2000 We are not allowed to smoke in the Comm Center. I'm not a smoker so I think that is wonderful. One of our neighboring departments allows their dispatchers to smoke at the consoles. We dispatched from over there during the construction of our new building. It's kinda stiffling when you're the only non-smoker and there are at least 2 others smoking in the same tiny room. I think that all smoking should be done outside so that those that don't smoke don't have to breathe or smell it. Just my opinion. Amy Kosinsky amykosinsky@... --- luvva001@... wrote: > something i have been thinking about posting for > awhile, but kept forgetting, > is this... > Is anyone on the list allowed to smoke at the > console while working?? How > does everyone feel about it? i smoke and i would not > smoke unless it was the > midnight shift, however i wish i could smoke at > work. One day a few weeks ago > it was so busy i did nt have an officer in the > station to cover the phones > for me for almost the entire shift and i would have > welcomed the opportunity > to smoke in the dispatch center. If smoking were > allowed i think there should > be a limit of maybe 1 smoke every 2 hours or > something so that the whole > place does not end up reeking like a pit. > > M. Goldman > Pelham Police Dept. > > Pelham N.H. > Disp-48 > > http://www.pelham-nh.com/police > > " These are my own opinions and not my employers. > These may be reproduced with > my express permission. " > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2000 Report Share Posted June 19, 2000 All this talk about smoking in the Comm Center is giving me a major head rush. I quit smoking a long time ago and just the thought of what that first drag would do to my poor head keeps me from starting up again. annette hallmark ahallmark@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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