Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 > > Hi, > > are you a surfer? (in the ocean, not in the www) > > love, rose > No Rose, I am not. But, I like the ocean though Love, ac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Dear AC, I just read your post and now I am wondering, why does this person bother posting and/or reading here in a group dedicated to The Work, when The Work has never worked for him? It seems to me you would be more attracted to a group that was interested in this " Full Awareness " that you spoke of, but then that is just my thinking? Just wondering? Steve D. > > > > I don't remember " work " EVER " working " > for me... when I am really " stressed " , > tense or un-peaceful! > > It has given me " fake " turnarounds, > superficial temporary cover-ups, thin > evaporating layers around my " stress " - > but, I don't remember it EVER freeing > me from it! > > Sometimes I have done " work " when > " stressed " and have even had > Momentarily laughs by the inquiry, work > and turnarounds. Yet, as far as I > remember my " pain " has ALWAYS returned > back pretty soon after that! > > > > > What has worked for me though is: > > - Full Awareness! > > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " what " I feel. > > Full Awareness of Exactly " how " I feel. > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " where " I feel. > > > This is kind of directly walking into > the " pain " feeling in order to FULLY > understand it! > > It is doing so with almost a child > like mind just full of curiosity! > > > And, what I have discovered that the > " pain " has almost always disappeared or > has greatly lessened its " scope " once I > tried to become Fully Aware of it! In > many cases, it has been " reduced " to a > trivial " physical " sensation somewhere in > the body in place of heavy emotional > burden that it had appeared like before > this full awareness of it! > > > > And, it is in this surrounding of > " peace " that I have found " work " to > really work! > > Based on my own personal experience, > my recommendation is... > > - Any time I feel stress, tension, > fear, distress, worry the first step > should be to fully acknowledge it and > to directly SEE " what " and " how " > exactly you feel and " where " ! Anything > else can work only after you have first > completely acknowledged and seen what > exactly is that you feel right Now! > > > As I have experienced, the " stress " , > " tension " , fear (contraction of body) > is kind of a energy build-up waiting > for my full attention and > acknowledgement. It is kind of SIGNAL > to me and the underlying neural network > is waiting for my " Conscious " > " acknowledgement " and receipt before it > can really let go of this signal and > energy build up (muscle tension, > contraction...)! > > And, I have noticed > that FULL Attention is the way I > " acknowledge " it. And, once I do that > the underlying neural network [or body] > lets go of the contraction [tension, > stress, worry, fear] perhaps thinking > that the SIGNAL has successfully > reached the Master and " assured " that > the Master can now do whatever the > Master finds appropriate! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 > > > > > > > > I don't remember " work " EVER " working " > > for me... when I am really " stressed " , > > tense or un-peaceful! > > > > It has given me " fake " turnarounds, > > superficial temporary cover-ups, thin > > evaporating layers around my " stress " - > > but, I don't remember it EVER freeing > > me from it! > > > > Sometimes I have done " work " when > > " stressed " and have even had > > Momentarily laughs by the inquiry, work > > and turnarounds. Yet, as far as I > > remember my " pain " has ALWAYS returned > > back pretty soon after that! > > > > > > > > > > What has worked for me though is: > > > > - Full Awareness! > > > > > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " what " I feel. > > > > Full Awareness of Exactly " how " I feel. > > > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " where " I feel. > > > > > > This is kind of directly walking into > > the " pain " feeling in order to FULLY > > understand it! > > > > It is doing so with almost a child > > like mind just full of curiosity! > > > > > > And, what I have discovered that the > > " pain " has almost always disappeared or > > has greatly lessened its " scope " once I > > tried to become Fully Aware of it! In > > many cases, it has been " reduced " to a > > trivial " physical " sensation somewhere in > > the body in place of heavy emotional > > burden that it had appeared like before > > this full awareness of it! > > > > > > > > And, it is in this surrounding of > > " peace " that I have found " work " to > > really work! > > > > Based on my own personal experience, > > my recommendation is... > > > > - Any time I feel stress, tension, > > fear, distress, worry the first step > > should be to fully acknowledge it and > > to directly SEE " what " and " how " > > exactly you feel and " where " ! Anything > > else can work only after you have first > > completely acknowledged and seen what > > exactly is that you feel right Now! > > > > > > As I have experienced, the " stress " , > > " tension " , fear (contraction of body) > > is kind of a energy build-up waiting > > for my full attention and > > acknowledgement. It is kind of SIGNAL > > to me and the underlying neural network > > is waiting for my " Conscious " > > " acknowledgement " and receipt before it > > can really let go of this signal and > > energy build up (muscle tension, > > contraction...)! > > > > And, I have noticed > > that FULL Attention is the way I > > " acknowledge " it. And, once I do that > > the underlying neural network [or body] > > lets go of the contraction [tension, > > stress, worry, fear] perhaps thinking > > that the SIGNAL has successfully > > reached the Master and " assured " that > > the Master can now do whatever the > > Master finds appropriate! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Hey Oldie, You are sweet Crazy, T -- Re: the Summary Dear AC, I just read your post and now I am wondering, why does this person bother posting and/or reading here in a group dedicated to The Work, when The Work has never worked for him? It seems to me you would be more attracted to a group that was interested in this " Full Awareness " that you spoke of, but then that is just my thinking? Just wondering? Steve D. > > > > I don't remember " work " EVER " working " > for me... when I am really " stressed " , > tense or un-peaceful! > > It has given me " fake " turnarounds, > superficial temporary cover-ups, thin > evaporating layers around my " stress " - > but, I don't remember it EVER freeing > me from it! > > Sometimes I have done " work " when > " stressed " and have even had > Momentarily laughs by the inquiry, work > and turnarounds. Yet, as far as I > remember my " pain " has ALWAYS returned > back pretty soon after that! > > > > > What has worked for me though is: > > - Full Awareness! > > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " what " I feel. > > Full Awareness of Exactly " how " I feel. > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " where " I feel. > > > This is kind of directly walking into > the " pain " feeling in order to FULLY > understand it! > > It is doing so with almost a child > like mind just full of curiosity! > > > And, what I have discovered that the > " pain " has almost always disappeared or > has greatly lessened its " scope " once I > tried to become Fully Aware of it! In > many cases, it has been " reduced " to a > trivial " physical " sensation somewhere in > the body in place of heavy emotional > burden that it had appeared like before > this full awareness of it! > > > > And, it is in this surrounding of > " peace " that I have found " work " to > really work! > > Based on my own personal experience, > my recommendation is... > > - Any time I feel stress, tension, > fear, distress, worry the first step > should be to fully acknowledge it and > to directly SEE " what " and " how " > exactly you feel and " where " ! Anything > else can work only after you have first > completely acknowledged and seen what > exactly is that you feel right Now! > > > As I have experienced, the " stress " , > " tension " , fear (contraction of body) > is kind of a energy build-up waiting > for my full attention and > acknowledgement. It is kind of SIGNAL > to me and the underlying neural network > is waiting for my " Conscious " > " acknowledgement " and receipt before it > can really let go of this signal and > energy build up (muscle tension, > contraction...)! > > And, I have noticed > that FULL Attention is the way I > " acknowledge " it. And, once I do that > the underlying neural network [or body] > lets go of the contraction [tension, > stress, worry, fear] perhaps thinking > that the SIGNAL has successfully > reached the Master and " assured " that > the Master can now do whatever the > Master finds appropriate! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Dear AC, AC said: " I think that perhaps, if you read my post carefully again; the answer to " why " might become clear to you. ## I re-read your post and as before, it seems clear enough and it still leaves me wondering what the attraction is here for you? AC said: " All of this I find useful for a forum related to work. Don't you? ## No AC said: " BTW... Steve, were you really " wondering " or were you in fact, " suggesting " ? " ## I was wondering. I hope that you would continue to post here, since most of your posts are enjoyable for me to read, especially the short ones! . AC said: " Do you think you are a person whom I should trust to be totally honest, open and genuine in his expression? " ## Sometimes yes and sometimes no. Warm Regards, Steve D. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember " work " EVER " working " > > > for me... when I am really " stressed " , > > > tense or un-peaceful! > > > > > > It has given me " fake " turnarounds, > > > superficial temporary cover-ups, thin > > > evaporating layers around my " stress " - > > > but, I don't remember it EVER freeing > > > me from it! > > > > > > Sometimes I have done " work " when > > > " stressed " and have even had > > > Momentarily laughs by the inquiry, work > > > and turnarounds. Yet, as far as I > > > remember my " pain " has ALWAYS returned > > > back pretty soon after that! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What has worked for me though is: > > > > > > - Full Awareness! > > > > > > > > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " what " I feel. > > > > > > Full Awareness of Exactly " how " I feel. > > > > > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " where " I feel. > > > > > > > > > This is kind of directly walking into > > > the " pain " feeling in order to FULLY > > > understand it! > > > > > > It is doing so with almost a child > > > like mind just full of curiosity! > > > > > > > > > And, what I have discovered that the > > > " pain " has almost always disappeared or > > > has greatly lessened its " scope " once I > > > tried to become Fully Aware of it! In > > > many cases, it has been " reduced " to a > > > trivial " physical " sensation somewhere in > > > the body in place of heavy emotional > > > burden that it had appeared like before > > > this full awareness of it! > > > > > > > > > > > > And, it is in this surrounding of > > > " peace " that I have found " work " to > > > really work! > > > > > > Based on my own personal experience, > > > my recommendation is... > > > > > > - Any time I feel stress, tension, > > > fear, distress, worry the first step > > > should be to fully acknowledge it and > > > to directly SEE " what " and " how " > > > exactly you feel and " where " ! Anything > > > else can work only after you have first > > > completely acknowledged and seen what > > > exactly is that you feel right Now! > > > > > > > > > As I have experienced, the " stress " , > > > " tension " , fear (contraction of body) > > > is kind of a energy build-up waiting > > > for my full attention and > > > acknowledgement. It is kind of SIGNAL > > > to me and the underlying neural network > > > is waiting for my " Conscious " > > > " acknowledgement " and receipt before it > > > can really let go of this signal and > > > energy build up (muscle tension, > > > contraction...)! > > > > > > And, I have noticed > > > that FULL Attention is the way I > > > " acknowledge " it. And, once I do that > > > the underlying neural network [or body] > > > lets go of the contraction [tension, > > > stress, worry, fear] perhaps thinking > > > that the SIGNAL has successfully > > > reached the Master and " assured " that > > > the Master can now do whatever the > > > Master finds appropriate! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 > > > What has worked for me though is: > > - Full Awareness! > > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " what " I feel. > > Full Awareness of Exactly " how " I feel. > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " where " I feel. > > > This is kind of directly walking into > the " pain " feeling in order to FULLY > understand it! > > It is doing so with almost a child > like mind just full of curiosity! > Hi Adithya, The full awareness that you are speaking of seems to me to be what we aim for in question 3. of the Work. When I believe a thought, where does the feeling hit me, where do I feel it in my body? Describe it. Notice how that feels. The more deeply we experience just how painful it really is to argue with reality, the more likely we are to stop believing the painful thought. Our tolerance for pain is great, but eventually our cumulative pain becomes intolerable and we fall to our knees and seek another way. So I think that you and the Work are in total agreement in emphasizing full awareness of how stressful thoughts make us feel. Have a beautiful day " The old song asks, " Why do fools fall in love? " Actually, only fools don't fall in love. Only a fool would believe the lonely, stressful thoughts that tell him that anything could separate him from another human being, or from the rest of the human race, or from birds, trees, pavement, and sky. " Byron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 > No Rose, I am not. > > But, I like the ocean though > > Love, > ac. I see, ac. Thanks. I love it too. Love, rose > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 why is everyone writing hostile emails.. to Ac and mary and tami. What is this who can insult the other better contest. ?? Ac wrote.. I don't remember " work " EVER " working " > > for me... when I am really " stressed " , > > tense or un-peaceful!-- I agree I also feel the work doesnt work for me when doing the work with a motive and katie says go in only for the truth.. or full awareness.. When I read ACs email.. i thought he meant doing the work brought him to full awareness.. which lessens the pain. It just doesnt work when you want another outcome . So what is wrong with that? love, roslyn - I don't remember " work " EVER " working " > > for me... when I am really " stressed " , > > tense or un-peaceful!-- In Loving-what-is , Tami wrote: > > Hey Oldie, > > You are sweet > > Crazy, T > > -- Re: the Summary > > Dear AC, > > I just read your post and now I am wondering, why does this person > bother posting and/or reading here in a group dedicated to The Work, > when The Work has never worked for him? It seems to me you would be > more attracted to a group that was interested in this " Full > Awareness " that you spoke of, but then that is just my thinking? > > Just wondering? Steve D. > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember " work " EVER " working " > > for me... when I am really " stressed " , > > tense or un-peaceful! > > > > It has given me " fake " turnarounds, > > superficial temporary cover-ups, thin > > evaporating layers around my " stress " - > > but, I don't remember it EVER freeing > > me from it! > > > > Sometimes I have done " work " when > > " stressed " and have even had > > Momentarily laughs by the inquiry, work > > and turnarounds. Yet, as far as I > > remember my " pain " has ALWAYS returned > > back pretty soon after that! > > > > > > > > > > What has worked for me though is: > > > > - Full Awareness! > > > > > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " what " I feel. > > > > Full Awareness of Exactly " how " I feel. > > > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " where " I feel. > > > > > > This is kind of directly walking into > > the " pain " feeling in order to FULLY > > understand it! > > > > It is doing so with almost a child > > like mind just full of curiosity! > > > > > > And, what I have discovered that the > > " pain " has almost always disappeared or > > has greatly lessened its " scope " once I > > tried to become Fully Aware of it! In > > many cases, it has been " reduced " to a > > trivial " physical " sensation somewhere in > > the body in place of heavy emotional > > burden that it had appeared like before > > this full awareness of it! > > > > > > > > And, it is in this surrounding of > > " peace " that I have found " work " to > > really work! > > > > Based on my own personal experience, > > my recommendation is... > > > > - Any time I feel stress, tension, > > fear, distress, worry the first step > > should be to fully acknowledge it and > > to directly SEE " what " and " how " > > exactly you feel and " where " ! Anything > > else can work only after you have first > > completely acknowledged and seen what > > exactly is that you feel right Now! > > > > > > As I have experienced, the " stress " , > > " tension " , fear (contraction of body) > > is kind of a energy build-up waiting > > for my full attention and > > acknowledgement. It is kind of SIGNAL > > to me and the underlying neural network > > is waiting for my " Conscious " > > " acknowledgement " and receipt before it > > can really let go of this signal and > > energy build up (muscle tension, > > contraction...)! > > > > And, I have noticed > > that FULL Attention is the way I > > " acknowledge " it. And, once I do that > > the underlying neural network [or body] > > lets go of the contraction [tension, > > stress, worry, fear] perhaps thinking > > that the SIGNAL has successfully > > reached the Master and " assured " that > > the Master can now do whatever the > > Master finds appropriate! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 My 2 cents about Steve's honesty He is an honest person He had a good teacher (me) And sometimes when he is afraid to loose something He looses his honesty on the way and We are all that way T -- Re: the Summary > > > > > > > > I don't remember " work " EVER " working " > > for me... when I am really " stressed " , > > tense or un-peaceful! > > > > It has given me " fake " turnarounds, > > superficial temporary cover-ups, thin > > evaporating layers around my " stress " - > > but, I don't remember it EVER freeing > > me from it! > > > > Sometimes I have done " work " when > > " stressed " and have even had > > Momentarily laughs by the inquiry, work > > and turnarounds. Yet, as far as I > > remember my " pain " has ALWAYS returned > > back pretty soon after that! > > > > > > > > > > What has worked for me though is: > > > > - Full Awareness! > > > > > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " what " I feel. > > > > Full Awareness of Exactly " how " I feel. > > > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " where " I feel. > > > > > > This is kind of directly walking into > > the " pain " feeling in order to FULLY > > understand it! > > > > It is doing so with almost a child > > like mind just full of curiosity! > > > > > > And, what I have discovered that the > > " pain " has almost always disappeared or > > has greatly lessened its " scope " once I > > tried to become Fully Aware of it! In > > many cases, it has been " reduced " to a > > trivial " physical " sensation somewhere in > > the body in place of heavy emotional > > burden that it had appeared like before > > this full awareness of it! > > > > > > > > And, it is in this surrounding of > > " peace " that I have found " work " to > > really work! > > > > Based on my own personal experience, > > my recommendation is... > > > > - Any time I feel stress, tension, > > fear, distress, worry the first step > > should be to fully acknowledge it and > > to directly SEE " what " and " how " > > exactly you feel and " where " ! Anything > > else can work only after you have first > > completely acknowledged and seen what > > exactly is that you feel right Now! > > > > > > As I have experienced, the " stress " , > > " tension " , fear (contraction of body) > > is kind of a energy build-up waiting > > for my full attention and > > acknowledgement. It is kind of SIGNAL > > to me and the underlying neural network > > is waiting for my " Conscious " > > " acknowledgement " and receipt before it > > can really let go of this signal and > > energy build up (muscle tension, > > contraction...)! > > > > And, I have noticed > > that FULL Attention is the way I > > " acknowledge " it. And, once I do that > > the underlying neural network [or body] > > lets go of the contraction [tension, > > stress, worry, fear] perhaps thinking > > that the SIGNAL has successfully > > reached the Master and " assured " that > > the Master can now do whatever the > > Master finds appropriate! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 > > why is everyone writing hostile emails.. > to Ac and mary and tami. My dearest Roslyn, Everyone is writing hostile emails to Ac and mary and tami. Is that true? Can you know for sure it's true? How do you feel when you think this? Who/what would you be without this thought? What would be a/some turnarounds? You should investigate your thoughts around this. Is that true? Actually I don't know. I do think though that it's easy to love those who love me. (well, sometimes I think that) (Well, actually no, I guess that's not true for me)(in this moment) G-R-E-A-T is the one who can love those who don't love them. (well, I'm not sure of that either I guess) (it's wrong to use too many parenthesis)(is that true?)(I don't know) But then again, my friend says, I think, that everyone loves everyone. We just don't all know it yet. Actually, I really don't know anything. People should/shouldn't write hostile emails to me. I don't know. Cluelessly yours, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 no it isnt true.. katie says look forward to criticism. And I suppose hostile is too extreme a term. .and it wasnt everyone. And it was my interpretation not necessarily true. How do i feel annoyed , wanting to defend people without the thought all emails are welcome and its also not my business. -TA.. I write hostile emails.. yes to myself about myself .. mostly people dont write hostile emails.. truer most of the time. my thinking was they sound hostile.. true. people write kind emails.. true. love,roslyn -- In Loving-what-is , " " wrote: > > > > > > why is everyone writing hostile emails.. > > to Ac and mary and tami. > > My dearest Roslyn, > > Everyone is writing hostile emails to Ac and mary and tami. > > Is that true? Can you know for sure it's true? How do you feel when > you think this? Who/what would you be without this thought? What > would be a/some turnarounds? > > You should investigate your thoughts around this. Is that true? > Actually I don't know. > > I do think though that it's easy to love those who love me. (well, > sometimes I think that) (Well, actually no, I guess that's not true > for me)(in this moment) > G-R-E-A-T is the one who can love those who don't love them. (well, > I'm not sure of that either I guess) (it's wrong to use too many > parenthesis)(is that true?)(I don't know) > But then again, my friend says, I think, that everyone loves > everyone. We just don't all know it yet. > > Actually, I really don't know anything. People should/shouldn't > write hostile emails to me. I don't know. > > Cluelessly yours, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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