Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 I'm curious, do you speak French? I do not believe there is any such thing as " proper " Eng. Perhaps you mean gramtically correct, with the pronunciation accepted in your geographic location. The Eng language is spoken in so many countries, not just in America. I wonder what your British forefathers, or maybe even your British contemporaries would have to say about the way you speak and pronounce? You see, IMO, what's " proper " is an extremely subjective thing. Thank god we're all so different! Digna Cassens, MHA, RD http://groups.msn.com/RDForum Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis Re: CDR Discussion I did not take Holly's comment to be directed at anyone. But she is quite right on the situation. I was a member of the House of Delegates when that issue was discussed. Yes, there are RDs that indeed are wanting ADA member benefits and are not members of the Association. Whether they realize it is right or not, it is not a good policy to extend member benefits to non-members. And it is correct that CDR is our credentialing body and changes need to be directed to them. CDR representatives are elected by members and are responsible for policy. I realize that they might think that 3,000 members signed the petition which means 70,000 did not. I am not sure how those numbers are interpreted but it could be the process. I too have had the pleasure of working on issues with Judy Gilbride (aka Guilbride) and she has given a lot of hours and time to the Association. Although I did not know her before she became President, I found her to be warm and personable yet challenged members to take on leadership roles. I have challenged her right back on issues and decisions. And she was respectful and understood my opinions. Actually her media portfolio is pretty thick meaning she has promoted our profession in many outlets. It is hard to comment on her reply on the petition, since it is paraphrased and interpreted. But would it not make more sense simply to call her and have coffee over the issue? Especially if someone is a graduate from the institution she is associated with. Seems like an easier way to break down some of these perceived barriers. But stories are created by the media and somewhat sensationalized. But as we see the explosion of citizen journalism, we are learning the media outlets are changing and where persons get the information. Did you know that SNL influenced 39% of voters (ages 29-45) in the last Presidential election? And speaking of citizen journalism, netroots and all the other changes, communication and presentation style does have impact. Yes, we all hurry and send out those emails too fast. But I wonder if Digna's reference on poor performers is the candidates she has in her pool that cannot spell or use proper grammar. I too am a bit surprised by this. It does effect the profession's image and credibility. So maybe we do need some sort of oversight on our continuing education a bit more than we think. We need to help poor performers improve if they carry the credential. I think diverse opinions are important and enjoyed this discussion, Pat Pat Raimondi MS, RD Senior Partner The Milestone Group Marketing and Research ************ ********* ********* ******** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover. aol.com/memed/ aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 Rita, Again, how many other languages do you speak fluently besides English? Re: CDR Discussion I did not take Holly's comment to be directed at anyone. But she is quite right on the situation. I was a member of the House of Delegates when that issue was discussed. Yes, there are RDs that indeed are wanting ADA member benefits and are not members of the Association. Whether they realize it is right or not, it is not a good policy to extend member benefits to non-members. And it is correct that CDR is our credentialing body and changes need to be directed to them. CDR representatives are elected by members and are responsible for policy. I realize that they might think that 3,000 members signed the petition which means 70,000 did not. I am not sure how those numbers are interpreted but it could be the process. I too have had the pleasure of working on issues with Judy Gilbride (aka Guilbride) and she has given a lot of hours and time to the Association. Although I did not know her before she became President, I found her to be warm and personable yet challenged members to take on leadership roles.. I have challenged her right back on issues and decisions. And she was respectful and understood my opinions. Actually her media portfolio is pretty thick meaning she has promoted our profession in many outlets. It is hard to comment on her reply on the petition, since it is paraphrased and interpreted. But would it not make more sense simply to call her and have coffee over the issue? Especially if someone is a graduate from the institution she is associated with. Seems like an easier way to break down some of these perceived barriers. But stories are created by the media and somewhat sensationalized. But as we see the explosion of citizen journalism, we are learning the media outlets are changing and where persons get the information. Did you know that SNL influenced 39% of voters (ages 29-45) in the last Presidential election? And speaking of citizen journalism, netroots and all the other changes, communication and presentation style does have impact. Yes, we all hurry and send out those emails too fast. But I wonder if Digna's reference on poor performers is the candidates she has in her pool that cannot spell or use proper grammar. I too am a bit surprised by this. It does effect the profession's image and credibility. So maybe we do need some sort of oversight on our continuing education a bit more than we think. We need to help poor performers improve if they carry the credential. I think diverse opinions are important and enjoyed this discussion, Pat Pat Raimondi MS, RD Senior Partner The Milestone Group Marketing and Research ************ ********* ********* ******** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover. aol.com/memed/ aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Oops! Did you spell Merav's name wrong....shame on you for not being perfect! Really, I have been watching this thread and feel it is time to put it to rest. Merav, while you may not agree with her petition or view on the issue, should be commended for her enthusiasm and commitment to this cause. I too am put off by bad grammar and spelling in the professional arena but this is a list serve. I know my typing is not the best and I try like the dickens but my letters are not always perfect. Merav should also be commended for her ability to learn the English language. It is one of the hardest to learn (so I am told, I am a native English speaker). I feel she gets her point across even with a few misspellings. As professionals, we understand that we will not always agree on anything from the petition to what percent carbohydrate a " perfect " diabetic diet should have. It is okay to agree to disagree in a sane, non accusing and friendly way. Cece Cece Ohmart, R.D., L.D. Director of Nutrition Services Maine Coast Memorial Hospital 50 Union Street Ellsworth, Maine 04605 Re: CDR Discussion I did not take Holly's comment to be directed at anyone. But she is quite right on the situation. I was a member of the House of Delegates when that issue was discussed. Yes, there are RDs that indeed are wanting ADA member benefits and are not members of the Association. Whether they realize it is right or not, it is not a good policy to extend member benefits to non-members. And it is correct that CDR is our credentialing body and changes need to be directed to them. CDR representatives are elected by members and are responsible for policy. I realize that they might think that 3,000 members signed the petition which means 70,000 did not. I am not sure how those numbers are interpreted but it could be the process. I too have had the pleasure of working on issues with Judy Gilbride (aka Guilbride) and she has given a lot of hours and time to the Association. Although I did not know her before she became President, I found her to be warm and personable yet challenged members to take on leadership roles. I have challenged her right back on issues and decisions. And she was respectful and understood my opinions. Actually her media portfolio is pretty thick meaning she has promoted our profession in many outlets. It is hard to comment on her reply on the petition, since it is paraphrased and interpreted. But would it not make more sense simply to call her and have coffee over the issue? Especially if someone is a graduate from the institution she is associated with. Seems like an easier way to break down some of these perceived barriers. But stories are created by the media and somewhat sensationalized. But as we see the explosion of citizen journalism, we are learning the media outlets are changing and where persons get the information. Did you know that SNL influenced 39% of voters (ages 29-45) in the last Presidential election? And speaking of citizen journalism, netroots and all the other changes, communication and presentation style does have impact. Yes, we all hurry and send out those emails too fast. But I wonder if Digna¢s reference on poor performers is the candidates she has in her pool that cannot spell or use proper grammar. I too am a bit surprised by this. It does effect the profession¢s image and credibility. So maybe we do need some sort of oversight on our continuing education a bit more than we think. We need to help poor performers improve if they carry the credential. I think diverse opinions are important and enjoyed this discussion, Pat Pat Raimondi MS, RD Senior Partner The Milestone Group Marketing and Research ************ ********* ********* ******** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover. aol.com/memed/ aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 To constantly complain w/o a solution is insane. I can't stand negative people who do not have solutions to the problem at hand. The ongoing nagging w/o accurate facts is really annoying. So, once again, what is the solution to the problem regarding the portfolio? I'd like to hear what she has to say to solve the problem vs complaining all the time. No, I don't speak another language but, I do appreciate and respect other nationalities or I wouldn't be dating a Pakistani Physician. Oh, by the way, he does speak and write the English language quite well. Rita Wells, R.D. Registered Dietitian Re: CDR Discussion I did not take Holly's comment to be directed at anyone. But she is quite right on the situation. I was a member of the House of Delegates when that issue was discussed. Yes, there are RDs that indeed are wanting ADA member benefits and are not members of the Association. Whether they realize it is right or not, it is not a good policy to extend member benefits to non-members. And it is correct that CDR is our credentialing body and changes need to be directed to them. CDR representatives are elected by members and are responsible for policy. I realize that they might think that 3,000 members signed the petition which means 70,000 did not. I am not sure how those numbers are interpreted but it could be the process. I too have had the pleasure of working on issues with Judy Gilbride (aka Guilbride) and she has given a lot of hours and time to the Association. Although I did not know her before she became President, I found her to be warm and personable yet challenged members to take on leadership roles. I have challenged her right back on issues and decisions. And she was respectful and understood my opinions. Actually her media portfolio is pretty thick meaning she has promoted our profession in many outlets. It is hard to comment on her reply on the petition, since it is paraphrased and interpreted. But would it not make more sense simply to call her and have coffee over the issue? Especially if someone is a graduate from the institution she is associated with. Seems like an easier way to break down some of these perceived barriers. But stories are created by the media and somewhat sensationalized. But as we see the explosion of citizen journalism, we are learning the media outlets are changing and where persons get the information. Did you know that SNL influenced 39% of voters (ages 29-45) in the last Presidential election? And speaking of citizen journalism, netroots and all the other changes, communication and presentation style does have impact. Yes, we all hurry and send out those emails too fast. But I wonder if Digna¢s reference on poor performers is the candidates she has in her pool that cannot spell or use proper grammar. I too am a bit surprised by this. It does effect the profession¢s image and credibility. So maybe we do need some sort of oversight on our continuing education a bit more than we think. We need to help poor performers improve if they carry the credential. I think diverse opinions are important and enjoyed this discussion, Pat Pat Raimondi MS, RD Senior Partner The Milestone Group Marketing and Research ************ ********* ********* ******** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover. aol.com/memed/ aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Enthusiasm and commitment, OMG...............where's the solution to the problem? The constant complaining w/o a solution is quite annoying. I don't view her as being unenthusiastic, I perceive her as a negative individual w/o facts which support her ongoing complaints. Rita Wells, R.D. Registered Dietitian Re: CDR Discussion I did not take Holly's comment to be directed at anyone. But she is quite right on the situation. I was a member of the House of Delegates when that issue was discussed. Yes, there are RDs that indeed are wanting ADA member benefits and are not members of the Association. Whether they realize it is right or not, it is not a good policy to extend member benefits to non-members. And it is correct that CDR is our credentialing body and changes need to be directed to them. CDR representatives are elected by members and are responsible for policy. I realize that they might think that 3,000 members signed the petition which means 70,000 did not. I am not sure how those numbers are interpreted but it could be the process. I too have had the pleasure of working on issues with Judy Gilbride (aka Guilbride) and she has given a lot of hours and time to the Association. Although I did not know her before she became President, I found her to be warm and personable yet challenged members to take on leadership roles. I have challenged her right back on issues and decisions. And she was respectful and understood my opinions. Actually her media portfolio is pretty thick meaning she has promoted our profession in many outlets. It is hard to comment on her reply on the petition, since it is paraphrased and interpreted. But would it not make more sense simply to call her and have coffee over the issue? Especially if someone is a graduate from the institution she is associated with. Seems like an easier way to break down some of these perceived barriers. But stories are created by the media and somewhat sensationalized. But as we see the explosion of citizen journalism, we are learning the media outlets are changing and where persons get the information. Did you know that SNL influenced 39% of voters (ages 29-45) in the last Presidential election? And speaking of citizen journalism, netroots and all the other changes, communication and presentation style does have impact. Yes, we all hurry and send out those emails too fast. But I wonder if Digna¢s reference on poor performers is the candidates she has in her pool that cannot spell or use proper grammar. I too am a bit surprised by this. It does effect the profession¢s image and credibility. So maybe we do need some sort of oversight on our continuing education a bit more than we think. We need to help poor performers improve if they carry the credential. I think diverse opinions are important and enjoyed this discussion, Pat Pat Raimondi MS, RD Senior Partner The Milestone Group Marketing and Research ************ ********* ********* ******** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover. aol.com/memed/ aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 I am not saying I am " perfect. " But, to complain w/o supporting data is annoying. A lot of people in this world can complain, but they usually are the ones who are unable to solve the problem. I'd like Merav to tell me her solution to the PDP process. Criticizing our former leader of the ADA isn't the solution. And, to interpret her response incorrectly is wrong also. Perhaps she should " try " to run for an ADA position. Rita Wells, R.D. Registered Dietitian Re: CDR Discussion I did not take Holly's comment to be directed at anyone. But she is quite right on the situation. I was a member of the House of Delegates when that issue was discussed. Yes, there are RDs that indeed are wanting ADA member benefits and are not members of the Association. Whether they realize it is right or not, it is not a good policy to extend member benefits to non-members. And it is correct that CDR is our credentialing body and changes need to be directed to them. CDR representatives are elected by members and are responsible for policy. I realize that they might think that 3,000 members signed the petition which means 70,000 did not. I am not sure how those numbers are interpreted but it could be the process. I too have had the pleasure of working on issues with Judy Gilbride (aka Guilbride) and she has given a lot of hours and time to the Association. Although I did not know her before she became President, I found her to be warm and personable yet challenged members to take on leadership roles. I have challenged her right back on issues and decisions. And she was respectful and understood my opinions. Actually her media portfolio is pretty thick meaning she has promoted our profession in many outlets. It is hard to comment on her reply on the petition, since it is paraphrased and interpreted. But would it not make more sense simply to call her and have coffee over the issue? Especially if someone is a graduate from the institution she is associated with. Seems like an easier way to break down some of these perceived barriers. But stories are created by the media and somewhat sensationalized. But as we see the explosion of citizen journalism, we are learning the media outlets are changing and where persons get the information. Did you know that SNL influenced 39% of voters (ages 29-45) in the last Presidential election? And speaking of citizen journalism, netroots and all the other changes, communication and presentation style does have impact. Yes, we all hurry and send out those emails too fast. But I wonder if Digna¢s reference on poor performers is the candidates she has in her pool that cannot spell or use proper grammar. I too am a bit surprised by this. It does effect the profession¢s image and credibility. So maybe we do need some sort of oversight on our continuing education a bit more than we think. We need to help poor performers improve if they carry the credential. I think diverse opinions are important and enjoyed this discussion, Pat Pat Raimondi MS, RD Senior Partner The Milestone Group Marketing and Research ************ ********* ********* ******** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover. aol.com/memed/ aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Cece, I never said I didn't agree with her petition. I do want to hear Merav's solution to the PDP process. And, English isn't the hardest language to learn. Japanese and Chinese would be ranked a lot higher on the learning scale. I really don't like the fact that she is misconstruing the " discussion with the former ADA leader. " And, I am not an ADA member!!! But, I don't like individuals who like to twist the " words " of others to assist their cause. Especially when they have NO SOLUTION to the problem. Rita Wells, R.D. Registered Dietitian Re: CDR Discussion I did not take Holly's comment to be directed at anyone. But she is quite right on the situation. I was a member of the House of Delegates when that issue was discussed. Yes, there are RDs that indeed are wanting ADA member benefits and are not members of the Association. Whether they realize it is right or not, it is not a good policy to extend member benefits to non-members. And it is correct that CDR is our credentialing body and changes need to be directed to them. CDR representatives are elected by members and are responsible for policy. I realize that they might think that 3,000 members signed the petition which means 70,000 did not. I am not sure how those numbers are interpreted but it could be the process. I too have had the pleasure of working on issues with Judy Gilbride (aka Guilbride) and she has given a lot of hours and time to the Association. Although I did not know her before she became President, I found her to be warm and personable yet challenged members to take on leadership roles. I have challenged her right back on issues and decisions. And she was respectful and understood my opinions. Actually her media portfolio is pretty thick meaning she has promoted our profession in many outlets. It is hard to comment on her reply on the petition, since it is paraphrased and interpreted.. But would it not make more sense simply to call her and have coffee over the issue? Especially if someone is a graduate from the institution she is associated with. Seems like an easier way to break down some of these perceived barriers. But stories are created by the media and somewhat sensationalized. But as we see the explosion of citizen journalism, we are learning the media outlets are changing and where persons get the information. Did you know that SNL influenced 39% of voters (ages 29-45) in the last Presidential election? And speaking of citizen journalism, netroots and all the other changes, communication and presentation style does have impact. Yes, we all hurry and send out those emails too fast. But I wonder if Digna¢s reference on poor performers is the candidates she has in her pool that cannot spell or use proper grammar. I too am a bit surprised by this. It does effect the profession¢s image and credibility. So maybe we do need some sort of oversight on our continuing education a bit more than we think. We need to help poor performers improve if they carry the credential. I think diverse opinions are important and enjoyed this discussion, Pat Pat Raimondi MS, RD Senior Partner The Milestone Group Marketing and Research ************ ********* ********* ******** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover. aol.com/memed/ aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Rita, DROP IT! It's done, over with, nobody wants to argue w you any more, you're preaching to yourself now. You've become just what you're criticizing (or is it critizising? ... criticising? critisicing? well, anyway, I'm sure you know what I mean). Re: CDR Discussion I did not take Holly's comment to be directed at anyone. But she is quite right on the situation. I was a member of the House of Delegates when that issue was discussed. Yes, there are RDs that indeed are wanting ADA member benefits and are not members of the Association. Whether they realize it is right or not, it is not a good policy to extend member benefits to non-members. And it is correct that CDR is our credentialing body and changes need to be directed to them. CDR representatives are elected by members and are responsible for policy. I realize that they might think that 3,000 members signed the petition which means 70,000 did not. I am not sure how those numbers are interpreted but it could be the process. I too have had the pleasure of working on issues with Judy Gilbride (aka Guilbride) and she has given a lot of hours and time to the Association. Although I did not know her before she became President, I found her to be warm and personable yet challenged members to take on leadership roles. I have challenged her right back on issues and decisions. And she was respectful and understood my opinions. Actually her media portfolio is pretty thick meaning she has promoted our profession in many outlets. It is hard to comment on her reply on the petition, since it is paraphrased and interpreted.. But would it not make more sense simply to call her and have coffee over the issue? Especially if someone is a graduate from the institution she is associated with. Seems like an easier way to break down some of these perceived barriers. But stories are created by the media and somewhat sensationalized. But as we see the explosion of citizen journalism, we are learning the media outlets are changing and where persons get the information. Did you know that SNL influenced 39% of voters (ages 29-45) in the last Presidential election? And speaking of citizen journalism, netroots and all the other changes, communication and presentation style does have impact. Yes, we all hurry and send out those emails too fast. But I wonder if Digna¢s reference on poor performers is the candidates she has in her pool that cannot spell or use proper grammar. I too am a bit surprised by this. It does effect the profession¢s image and credibility. So maybe we do need some sort of oversight on our continuing education a bit more than we think. We need to help poor performers improve if they carry the credential. I think diverse opinions are important and enjoyed this discussion, Pat Pat Raimondi MS, RD Senior Partner The Milestone Group Marketing and Research ************ ********* ********* ******** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover. aol.com/memed/ aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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