Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Thank you for your work . Other beliefs that I see that you may want to do the Work on: The Course should make me happy The Course makes me miserable The Course should bring me peace and joy The Course should bring me loving friends The Course is too hard I am an idiot I am lost I am alone I would also suggest calling the hotline and getting a facilitation with one of the wonderful volunteers over the telephone if that feels like it would be right for you. Also, you may want to post a Judge your Neighbour Worksheet on other members of the group whom you say you are 'chronically' annoyed with. Be petty, get those annoyances out on paper and put them up agaist the questions. Thanks again for your work. C. Genevachild wrote: The following is a first step in forgiveness [acim style] using Byron 's worksheets to unpack the first step: ~~ JUDGE-YOUR-NEIGHBOR WORKSHEET 1. I am frustrated with the Course because it doesn't make me happy, it makes me miserable. 2. I want the Course to bring me peace of mind and a loving community of friends. 3. The Course should give me what it promises – peace and joy and happiness. 4. I need the Course to provide results not misery and alienation. 5. The Course is hard work. I experience a sense of futility studying the Course. When is it going to bear fruit? When do I get the good feelings? 6. I don't want to experience frustration with this curriculum ever again. I don't want this experience of descending into the darkness. Ever again. ONE-BELIEF-AT-A-TIME WORKSHEET Belief: The Course is an exercise in futility, a descent into darkness. 1. Is it true? Yes. 2. Can you absolutely know that it's true? I don't know what is true. 3. How do you react when you believe that thought? What happens? a) What I feel in my body when I believe this thought is one big headache. My back aches. I don't sleep well. When I believe this thought I tell myself that I am a stupid, foolish old woman. Hopeless. That's what. And I am chronically annoyed with other Course students. Frustrated and annoyed. c) I escape into watching TV, movies, overeating, reading pulp fiction. Self-hatred? Oh yes. d) The thought first occurred to me the first time I went to a Course study group in 1976. I got rid of the damn book and then bought a second copy in 1982 and went to another study group and got rid of the second copy. Then bought a third copy in the fall of 2000. It's like this tremendous struggle for control happening in my mind. I study the Course with the emergency brake on. e) Underneath all this behavior I feel like an idiot. Even though kind friends and strangers have offered words of encouragement I do not feel encouraged. I feel lost and alone. f) What do I get for holding onto this belief? Misery. 4. Who would I be without the thought? a) Without the belief I would have made a decision to study the Course in 1976. I would have turned to Jesus for help and I would have done the work. What if I encountered the Course for the first time with no story of how impossible this is? I would have settled into the daily routine of doing the Lessons, following instructions. c) Who am I right now, sitting here without the belief? I'm a happy camper. I'm devoted to this path. I'm grateful. Eager to write out my comments on the next Lesson. Turn the thought around. Turn it around to the opposite. The Course is a path of redemption. Turn it around to the other. I turned the Course into an experience in futility. Turn it around to yourself. I hurt me in this study by fighting myself. Turn around for Number 6. I look forward to the experience of frustration as I study the Course. I am willing to make the descent into the darkness of the mind. --------------------------------- Share your photos with the people who matter at Yahoo! Canada Photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Hi I have a question for you. The " outcome " of 's worksheet, seemed to " me " that was feeling much better about the Work and having to take a look at whatever she thought was a " darkness " . If is content or doing much better, why would she go back and work on the areas you have suggested since she already basically " seemed " to have worked on them (at least to me it seemed that way)? Also, would it be prudent to " ask " how she feels overall about her " new " outlook before suggesting these options? How does one know how to suggest for another without truly knowing what they (the person you are suggesting for) are feeling " after " they have completed a particular worksheet? I'm being curious and trying to learn a bit more Evie --- wrote: > Thank you for your work . Other beliefs that > I see that you may want to do the Work on: > > The Course should make me happy > > The Course makes me miserable > > The Course should bring me peace and joy > > The Course should bring me loving friends > > The Course is too hard > > I am an idiot > > I am lost > > I am alone > > I would also suggest calling the hotline and > getting a facilitation with one of the wonderful > volunteers over the telephone if that feels like it > would be right for you. Also, you may want to post > a Judge your Neighbour Worksheet on other members of > the group whom you say you are 'chronically' annoyed > with. Be petty, get those annoyances out on paper > and put them up agaist the questions. Thanks again > for your work. > > C. > > Genevachild wrote: > The following is a first step in > forgiveness [acim style] using > Byron 's worksheets to unpack the first step: > ~~ ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Evie, When I respond to something that is posted, I respond with whatever arises within me. I don't " know " how to respond for 'another'...I make suggestions and I trust others to either go with the suggestion or ignore it if it doesnt feel right for them. I dont make any assumptions about " outcomes " for people. I can't know about that. If she is indeed feeling no stress around these beliefs , then I imagine that she would not bother going back and doing inquiry on them. Again, I trust her to make that decision for herself. My experience is that when someone responds to my work they may see underlying beliefs that I had previously not looked at. It can be helpful, since all work is our own. Other times, people make comments that dont resonate, and I jsut move on. I dont bother with being 'prudent' Evie, I wouldnt know what that even is in your world or anyone else;s. Instead of trying to be 'prudent', I opt for responding honestly and spontaneously to other's work, which is also my own. Thanks for your question. C. Evie wrote: Hi I have a question for you. The " outcome " of 's worksheet, seemed to " me " that was feeling much better about the Work and having to take a look at whatever she thought was a " darkness " . If is content or doing much better, why would she go back and work on the areas you have suggested since she already basically " seemed " to have worked on them (at least to me it seemed that way)? Also, would it be prudent to " ask " how she feels overall about her " new " outlook before suggesting these options? How does one know how to suggest for another without truly knowing what they (the person you are suggesting for) are feeling " after " they have completed a particular worksheet? I'm being curious and trying to learn a bit more Evie --- wrote: > Thank you for your work . Other beliefs that > I see that you may want to do the Work on: > > The Course should make me happy > > The Course makes me miserable > > The Course should bring me peace and joy > > The Course should bring me loving friends > > The Course is too hard > > I am an idiot > > I am lost > > I am alone > > I would also suggest calling the hotline and > getting a facilitation with one of the wonderful > volunteers over the telephone if that feels like it > would be right for you. Also, you may want to post > a Judge your Neighbour Worksheet on other members of > the group whom you say you are 'chronically' annoyed > with. Be petty, get those annoyances out on paper > and put them up agaist the questions. Thanks again > for your work. > > C. > > Genevachild wrote: > The following is a first step in > forgiveness [acim style] using > Byron 's worksheets to unpack the first step: > ~~ __________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------- Share your photos with the people who matter at Yahoo! Canada Photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Hi Okay - I was just curious as to the view you were coming from. For me I find it of interest to ask questions and receive whatever answers, so I'm glad you didn't mind me asking you some questions . Thanks, Evie --- wrote: > Evie, > > When I respond to something that is posted, I > respond with whatever arises within me. I don't > " know " how to respond for 'another'...I make > suggestions and I trust others to either go with the > suggestion or ignore it if it doesnt feel right for > them. I dont make any assumptions about " outcomes " > for people. I can't know about that. If she is > indeed feeling no stress around these beliefs , then > I imagine that she would not bother going back and > doing inquiry on them. Again, I trust her to make > that decision for herself. > > My experience is that when someone responds to my > work they may see underlying beliefs that I had > previously not looked at. It can be helpful, since > all work is our own. Other times, people make > comments that dont resonate, and I jsut move on. > > I dont bother with being 'prudent' Evie, I wouldnt > know what that even is in your world or anyone > else;s. Instead of trying to be 'prudent', I opt > for responding honestly and spontaneously to other's > work, which is also my own. > > Thanks for your question. > > C. > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 > > Thank you for your work . Other beliefs that I see that you may want to do the Work on: > > The Course should make me happy > > The Course makes me miserable > > The Course should bring me peace and joy > > The Course should bring me loving friends > > The Course is too hard > > I am an idiot > > I am lost > > I am alone > > I would also suggest calling the hotline and getting a facilitation with one of the wonderful volunteers over the telephone if that feels like it would be right for you. Also, you may want to post a Judge your Neighbour Worksheet on other members of the group whom you say you are 'chronically' annoyed with. Be petty, get those annoyances out on paper and put them up agaist the questions. Thanks again for your work. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carrie responds: Thanks for responding to my WORKSHEET with the thoughts that came up for you. I just now completed THE WORK on an individual classmate. The first worksheet I did was on Course students as a group. Then I did worksheets on several individual students of the Course. A classmate was complaining about the lack of motivation to do the lessons. That was when the answer popped up to do a worksheet on acim. Just doing the JUDGE-YOUR-NEIGHBOR WORKSHEET is tremendously liberating. I feel so much relief. It takes a lot of energy to repress these negative thoughts and feelings. Each ONE-BELIEF-AT-A-TIME WORKSHEET has been a revelation. And the turnaround to number 6 is rocking my world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 I loved reading your response . Often, the mind resists getting petty and doing the work on individuals specifically can be a very liberating thing once we get the hang of it and have the courage to really look at our judgements about specific people in our lives. MY mind often wants to just look at generalizations (being mean and petty is something I have been taught is bad and so my mind finds a way to bypass my judgements of others....I sometimes have to really sit with a feeling to get to the judgement about another that I am believing. Often I feel depressed or a vague dissatisfaction rather than a sense of anger or clear judgement of another. Yet, the judgements are there and when I am patient, they arise to be questioned. Having the Work in my life has meant that I can now get excited about noticing a judgement that I have about someone else, and I can know that it is safe to be aware of the judgment since I now know what to do with it, I can take it to inquiry and educate myself and find peace) . This process of the work is amazing and the beautiful thing to me is that we can begin where we are and trust where it takes us. Love, C. Genevachild wrote: > > Thank you for your work . Other beliefs that I see that you may want to do the Work on: > > The Course should make me happy > > The Course makes me miserable > > The Course should bring me peace and joy > > The Course should bring me loving friends > > The Course is too hard > > I am an idiot > > I am lost > > I am alone > > I would also suggest calling the hotline and getting a facilitation with one of the wonderful volunteers over the telephone if that feels like it would be right for you. Also, you may want to post a Judge your Neighbour Worksheet on other members of the group whom you say you are 'chronically' annoyed with. Be petty, get those annoyances out on paper and put them up agaist the questions. Thanks again for your work. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carrie responds: Thanks for responding to my WORKSHEET with the thoughts that came up for you. I just now completed THE WORK on an individual classmate. The first worksheet I did was on Course students as a group. Then I did worksheets on several individual students of the Course. A classmate was complaining about the lack of motivation to do the lessons. That was when the answer popped up to do a worksheet on acim. Just doing the JUDGE-YOUR-NEIGHBOR WORKSHEET is tremendously liberating. I feel so much relief. It takes a lot of energy to repress these negative thoughts and feelings. Each ONE-BELIEF-AT-A-TIME WORKSHEET has been a revelation. And the turnaround to number 6 is rocking my world. --------------------------------- Make free worldwide PC-to-PC calls. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger with Voice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 I would also suggest calling the hotline and getting a facilitation with one of the wonderful volunteers over the telephone if that feels like it would be right for you. >>>>>>>>>>>> carrie: I forgot to mention...someone called me. First she sent email asking if I wanted to talk, then she called and we had a good long chat. We exchanged several emails with me sending samples of my WORK. Then she sent an email, gracefully making her exit. I like to think that she noticed that I take to THE WORK like a duck to water. I do understand the temptation of some to feel concern when they see all the bad gunk that surfaces on my Worksheets, but it's all good. I do appreciate the kindness of strangers. P.S. The person who called me has been doing the Work with from the beginning, long before she published any books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 I would also suggest calling the hotline and getting a > facilitation with one of the wonderful volunteers over the telephone > if that feels like it would be right for you. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > carrie: I forgot to mention...someone called me. First she sent email > asking if I wanted to talk, then she called and we had a good long > chat. We exchanged several emails with me sending samples of my > WORK. Then she sent an email, gracefully making her exit. I like to > think that she noticed that I take to THE WORK like a duck to water. > > I do understand the temptation of some to feel concern when they see > all the bad gunk that surfaces on my Worksheets, but it's all good. **** " All the bad gunk that surfaces on MY Worksheets " ... Bad Gunk, is pure innocence. And worksheets are exactly the best place for it, rather than get concerned, to me it's exciting that those thoughts get to find their way to a worksheet. Yes, I agree. Its all good. , how does it feel when you think that other's get concerned? > > I do appreciate the kindness of strangers. > > P.S. The person who called me has been doing the Work with from > the beginning, long before she published any books. ***Did you enjoy the above experience? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 > Bad Gunk is pure innocence. And worksheets are exactly the best place for it, rather than get concerned, to me it's exciting that those thoughts get to find their way to a worksheet. Yes, I agree. Its all good. > > , how does it feel when you think that other's get concerned? ~~~ Not so good. I know that I am seeing a projection of my own wrong minded belief in my vulnerability. > > P.S. The person who called me has been doing the Work with from the beginning, long before she published any books. > ***Did you enjoy the above experience? > Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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