Re: Re: My Lab Results--Thyroid & Adrenals

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Thanks to everyone who responded. I really appreciate your sharing your knowledge and experiences. I only wish I had more to offer to the group.I am feeling so much better, don't know if it's the increased thyroid or being on the cortisone or some combination of the two, but I started feeling better almost immediately and feel more normal than I have in many months. I think I forgot (darn hypo memory) what he told me on the cortisol, and have been taking 2 pills in the AM and 1 pill around noon. (I've just been taking samples that he gave me in an unlabeled bottle till our follow-up appt.) Reading over my e-mail sent very shortly after the appt, I'd mentioned 1 and 1. But I feel really good on that dosage so maybe he will allow me to

continue. I definitely will not go on the anti-anxiety meds. I didn't realize how badly they can mess you up over the long haul. I do know that I was put on Topamax quite a few years ago for migraine prevention, and that really did a number on me as far as dulling my thinking and impacting my memory, particularly word recall, that has lasted to this day. I really think it shaved about 15 points off my IQ. (If anyone wants to hear my story on Topomax, I'll be glad to share individually, but won't go into more details here in the interest of staying on-topic.) So I definitely don't want to take anything that will mess up my emotions in a similar way. Thank you for the warning, it has been heeded.My doctor said that he read a study where they tested 300 (?) people who were diagnosed clinically depressed. Half of them had undiagnosed hypothyroid. And

that was by conventional standards of hypothyroid.Thanks again for the advice. I'll post again after my follow-up appointment on June 4 if there is additional info that others may find useful. B. Re: My Lab Results--Thyroid & Adrenals > > Yoga has been shown to be a very effective way to manage stress. The good thing > about it is that it's something you can do at home and you can get your kids > involved. You can get videos at your local library. > > You might also consider some activities for your kids that give you a

break. I > totally understand the motivation for folks to homeschool, but that is likely > one of the most stressful jobs in the world. They found that stay at home moms > (that weren't even homeschooling) had stress levels equivalent to soldiers > on the front lines on the battlefield. Your body cannot heal if it's under > constant stress. My oldest sister home schooled and also encountered > significant health issues. I'm not saying that the health issues are > entirely due to raising kids - it was a combination of the genetic > predisposition and the environment. One thing she found that helped a lot was > to trade activities with other home school families. For example, she taught > tennis to several families and then the other families did activities like music > and art. That gave her a few breaks during the week AND it gave her a

chance to > do something she really enjoys - tennis. > > You might also consider that you have hidden gluten in your diet. In general as > close as you can get to 100% is necessary to benefit from a gluten free diet. > Even a small amount of gluten can damage the gut and exacerbate autoimmune > issues due to the inflammatory reaction and gluten is a known contributor to > depression. Prescription drugs are a very common culprit, in particular if you > are taking any generics. Supplements can also be very problematic. I will not > use a supplement or Rx drug unless I can verify with the manufacturer that it is > gluten free. The same with food products. I do not consume products that have > been manufactured in a location that also processes wheat. There is too much > potential for cross contamination. You have to be very careful of companies

> that label their products as not containing any ingredients for gluten as that > implies they do not guarantee in any way that the product is truly gluten-free. > The safest products are those that indicate the manufacturer does regular > tests for gluten in their products. > > Also, many of us that are gluten intolerant also have other food intolerances. > Egg whites bother me a lot. Another consideration is that many of us with > autoimmune issues have issues with toxins (note the previous discussion on > methylation defects related to low vitamin B12). Toxins can contribute to > anxiety. I am extremely sensitive to EMF. I do not use WiFi in my home. I > learned this when our router broke and we did not have WiFi for a week - I had > one of the best weeks I had had in years. Then when we got the router fixed,

> the problems returned. So, I started keeping the WiFi off during the day as I > work at home. I would turn it on when my kids came home from school and I was > noticing one night after they got home I was in the kitchen fixing dinner and > all of sudden felt extremely anxious - there was nothing going on. The kids and > I were in a fine mood when they got home from school. Whenever I go out of town > my sons turn the WiFi on and I sometimes forget that and then realize (as my > anxiety increases) that the WiFi is still on. > > I know I've gotten slightly OT, but for many of us the thyroid and even > adrenal issues are just one piece of the puzzle. > > Good luck.> B. > > >> >> I started being treated last year for borderline

hypo with hashis and very > high cortisol.� I can't remember the exact numbers for each time of day, > but my doctor told me I was heading for adrenal fatigue.� My overall cortisol > load was 61 (normal 23-42).� Was diagnosed gluten intolerant as well.� He > put me on Armour, Seriphos, Adapt, selenium, sea salt, and I began to steadily > improve over most of the year.� A couple months ago, during a period of very > high stress, I started feeling out of sorts again, and this has continued to get > worse.� I feel depressed and stressed, highly irritable, and don't know if > it's the thyroid, the adrenals, or some combination of the two.� I am > thinking of asking my doctor to put me on some kind of specifically anti-anxiety > drug, something to take the edge off.� I hate to do that, would rather just > get my hormones back in order instead

of likely screwing up my system even more > with anti-anxiety drugs, but I am around>> my kids all the time (homeschool), and my irritability is having a > negative impact on them.� The stress in my life that precipitated this decline > in health has continued, and I am having a hard time tolerating it, much less > handling it.>> >> >> My doctor was running very late today so I didn't press him for too > much info, as I have another appointment next week and will discuss in more > detail with him then.� He told me to double my Armour in the am, and to > continue taking my regular dose of Armour at 2:00 pm.� He gave me 5 mg. of > cortisol and said to take one in the AM for a few days and if it doesn't > increase anxiety take one in AM and one at noon.� Also said to continue on > with the Seriphos and to increase

Adapt to 2x/day instead of 1x/day.>> >> >> Here are my latest results.� Any insights would be appreciated.>> >> Free T4:� 0.85 (0.82-1.77)>> Free T3:� 2.5 (2.0-2.4)>> >> TSH:� 0.67 (0.45-4.5)>> >> Cortisol>> 8:00 am:� 5 (13-24)>> 11:00 am:� 3 (5-10)>> 4:00 pm:� 4 (3-8)>> 10:00 pm:� 1 (1-4)>> Cortisol load:� 13 (23-42)>> >> DHEA + DHEA-S:� 6 (3-10)>> >> Insulin>> Fasting:� <3 (3-12)>> Non-Fasting:� <3 (5-20)>> >> Progesterone:� 34 (23-100)>> >> Total Salivary SIgA:� 11 (25-60)>> >> Thanks in advance,>> >> >> > > > > >

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B,May I ask if you take any T3?I began on that last year, and then got on to high a dose, quit it cold turkey,And I haven’t been the same since. I went into such depression and anxiety, after stopping it…That I could not believe it…but I also couldn’t tolerate the feeling of 87.5mcg of T3…at the timeI felt so awful on that dose…I was having such bad chest pain and indigestion ( I have since found I need HCL acidFor my stomach, and that has helped!  )( I ended up in the ER to get my heart checked, and all was ok..but the Dr. said, “you are hypothyroid”,And of course, handed me an RX for Levothyroxine…of course I didn’t fill it…I have my own Doctor…I don’t understand why my heart palpitations didn’t improve after I went off the  off T3 cold turkey, (I even had to take a beta blockers for a few days)  but,I am sure I should have tapered down…but even after being off it three days as my Doc instructed,And then he wanted me to go back to 50 mcg, I felt so awful I just didn’t do it (go back down to 50mcg)I was a bit frightened of T3 at that point…I know T3 is strong…but I felt very good on it for a few months…but I think my mistake was not staying at 50 to 65 mcg… I  have never been “tired” as one of my symptoms of hypothyroid…”I feel more wired and anxious than tired… Here is my lab:Last year first lab:TSH 3.09T4  1.3  (my Doc said that indicated I was hypothyroid)T 3   3.0Reverse T3   32Thyroglobulin Antibodies    <20Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies   73 High  (my doc said “I have seen much higher) and he was concerned Progesterone was .7 (that explained some of the anxiety then)   My progesterone over the year got up to 11 (I have take Oral Progesterone) Estradiol  51  (My doc wants it at 80)  I take sublingual trochs My meds come from Abrams Royal… My Dr. is having me restart it, so I am on 12.5mcg right now, he said he might “add some T4 in” later,I was so depressed the day I saw him that I didn’t even ask him what he meant by adding T4 in…I am having to take Ativan right now, 1 mg a day, not much more, I don’t like taking it, but magnesium,Or holy basil, or those kinds of suggestions don’t seem to assist the anxiousness.But I still feel depressed…I can tell you that I have never know a depression like this…and it happenedFrom going off the T3 is the only thing I can attribute it to…Could I have become sensitive to T3?  I am on estrogen, I take it easy on Progesterone because it can cause depression…I seem to do ok on the time released Progesterone somedays for the anxiety… I started into menopause one year ago, I have no uterus, just ovaries, so maybe it takes a few yearsTo get through this. My Cortisol has been as high as 24 before, but never any higher, my iron is fine,But I am confused at T3 at this point…tomorrow I am up supposed to up my dose by 12.5mcg,But I am thinking I should do it slower…at 5mcg… Does anyone have any suggestions for me?  Is adding in some T4 an answer for me?Does it cause anxiousness?  Please help! Thank you, From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of BearrySent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 9:32 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: My Lab Results--Thyroid & Adrenals Thanks to everyone who responded. I really appreciate your sharing your knowledge and experiences. I only wish I had more to offer to the group. I am feeling so much better, don't know if it's the increased thyroid or being on the cortisone or some combination of the two, but I started feeling better almost immediately and feel more normal than I have in many months. I think I forgot (darn hypo memory) what he told me on the cortisol, and have been taking 2 pills in the AM and 1 pill around noon. (I've just been taking samples that he gave me in an unlabeled bottle till our follow-up appt.) Reading over my e-mail sent very shortly after the appt, I'd mentioned 1 and 1. But I feel really good on that dosage so maybe he will allow me to continue. I definitely will not go on the anti-anxiety meds. I didn't realize how badly they can mess you up over the long haul. I do know that I was put on Topamax quite a few years ago for migraine prevention, and that really did a number on me as far as dulling my thinking and impacting my memory, particularly word recall, that has lasted to this day. I really think it shaved about 15 points off my IQ. (If anyone wants to hear my story on Topomax, I'll be glad to share individually, but won't go into more details here in the interest of staying on-topic.) So I definitely don't want to take anything that will mess up my emotions in a similar way. Thank you for the warning, it has been heeded. My doctor said that he read a study where they tested 300 (?) people who were diagnosed clinically depressed. Half of them had undiagnosed hypothyroid. And that was by conventional standards of hypothyroid. Thanks again for the advice. I'll post again after my follow-up appointment on June 4 if there is additional info that others may find useful. B. Re: My Lab Results--Thyroid & Adrenals> > Yoga has been shown to be a very effective way to manage stress. The good thing > about it is that it's something you can do at home and you can get your kids > involved. You can get videos at your local library. > > You might also consider some activities for your kids that give you a break. I > totally understand the motivation for folks to homeschool, but that is likely > one of the most stressful jobs in the world. They found that stay at home moms > (that weren't even homeschooling) had stress levels equivalent to soldiers > on the front lines on the battlefield. Your body cannot heal if it's under > constant stress. My oldest sister home schooled and also encountered > significant health issues. I'm not saying that the health issues are > entirely due to raising kids - it was a combination of the genetic > predisposition and the environment. One thing she found that helped a lot was > to trade activities with other home school families. For example, she taught > tennis to several families and then the other families did activities like music > and art. That gave her a few breaks during the week AND it gave her a chance to > do something she really enjoys - tennis. > > You might also consider that you have hidden gluten in your diet. In general as > close as you can get to 100% is necessary to benefit from a gluten free diet. > Even a small amount of gluten can damage the gut and exacerbate autoimmune > issues due to the inflammatory reaction and gluten is a known contributor to > depression. Prescription drugs are a very common culprit, in particular if you > are taking any generics. Supplements can also be very problematic. I will not > use a supplement or Rx drug unless I can verify with the manufacturer that it is > gluten free. The same with food products. I do not consume products that have > been manufactured in a location that also processes wheat. There is too much > potential for cross contamination. You have to be very careful of companies > that label their products as not containing any ingredients for gluten as that > implies they do not guarantee in any way that the product is truly gluten-free. > The safest products are those that indicate the manufacturer does regular > tests for gluten in their products. > > Also, many of us that are gluten intolerant also have other food intolerances. > Egg whites bother me a lot. Another consideration is that many of us with > autoimmune issues have issues with toxins (note the previous discussion on > methylation defects related to low vitamin B12). Toxins can contribute to > anxiety. I am extremely sensitive to EMF. I do not use WiFi in my home. I > learned this when our router broke and we did not have WiFi for a week - I had > one of the best weeks I had had in years. Then when we got the router fixed, > the problems returned. So, I started keeping the WiFi off during the day as I > work at home. I would turn it on when my kids came home from school and I was > noticing one night after they got home I was in the kitchen fixing dinner and > all of sudden felt extremely anxious - there was nothing going on. The kids and > I were in a fine mood when they got home from school. Whenever I go out of town > my sons turn the WiFi on and I sometimes forget that and then realize (as my > anxiety increases) that the WiFi is still on. > > I know I've gotten slightly OT, but for many of us the thyroid and even > adrenal issues are just one piece of the puzzle. > > Good luck.> B. > > >> >> I started being treated last year for borderline hypo with hashis and very > high cortisol.� I can't remember the exact numbers for each time of day, > but my doctor told me I was heading for adrenal fatigue.� My overall cortisol > load was 61 (normal 23-42).� Was diagnosed gluten intolerant as well.� He > put me on Armour, Seriphos, Adapt, selenium, sea salt, and I began to steadily > improve over most of the year.� A couple months ago, during a period of very > high stress, I started feeling out of sorts again, and this has continued to get > worse.� I feel depressed and stressed, highly irritable, and don't know if > it's the thyroid, the adrenals, or some combination of the two.� I am > thinking of asking my doctor to put me on some kind of specifically anti-anxiety > drug, something to take the edge off.� I hate to do that, would rather just > get my hormones back in order instead of likely screwing up my system even more > with anti-anxiety drugs, but I am around>> my kids all the time (homeschool), and my irritability is having a > negative impact on them.� The stress in my life that precipitated this decline > in health has continued, and I am having a hard time tolerating it, much less > handling it.>> >> >> My doctor was running very late today so I didn't press him for too > much info, as I have another appointment next week and will discuss in more > detail with him then.� He told me to double my Armour in the am, and to > continue taking my regular dose of Armour at 2:00 pm.� He gave me 5 mg. of > cortisol and said to take one in the AM for a few days and if it doesn't > increase anxiety take one in AM and one at noon.� Also said to continue on > with the Seriphos and to increase Adapt to 2x/day instead of 1x/day.>> >> >> Here are my latest results.� Any insights would be appreciated.>> >> Free T4:� 0.85 (0.82-1.77)>> Free T3:� 2.5 (2.0-2.4)>> >> TSH:� 0.67 (0.45-4.5)>> >> Cortisol>> 8:00 am:� 5 (13-24)>> 11:00 am:� 3 (5-10)>> 4:00 pm:� 4 (3-8)>> 10:00 pm:� 1 (1-4)>> Cortisol load:� 13 (23-42)>> >> DHEA + DHEA-S:� 6 (3-10)>> >> Insulin>> Fasting:� <3 (3-12)>> Non-Fasting:� <3 (5-20)>> >> Progesterone:� 34 (23-100)>> >> Total Salivary SIgA:� 11 (25-60)>> >> Thanks in advance,>> >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------> >

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Correction:On my antibodies, the Doctor was not concerned. From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of d. OwensSent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 10:02 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: RE: Re: My Lab Results--Thyroid & Adrenals B,May I ask if you take any T3?I began on that last year, and then got on to high a dose, quit it cold turkey,And I haven’t been the same since. I went into such depression and anxiety, after stopping it…That I could not believe it…but I also couldn’t tolerate the feeling of 87.5mcg of T3…at the timeI felt so awful on that dose…I was having such bad chest pain and indigestion ( I have since found I need HCL acidFor my stomach, and that has helped! )( I ended up in the ER to get my heart checked, and all was ok..but the Dr. said, “you are hypothyroid”,And of course, handed me an RX for Levothyroxine…of course I didn’t fill it…I have my own Doctor…I don’t understand why my heart palpitations didn’t improve after I went off the off T3 cold turkey, (I even had to take a beta blockers for a few days) but,I am sure I should have tapered down…but even after being off it three days as my Doc instructed,And then he wanted me to go back to 50 mcg, I felt so awful I just didn’t do it (go back down to 50mcg)I was a bit frightened of T3 at that point…I know T3 is strong…but I felt very good on it for a few months…but I think my mistake was not staying at 50 to 65 mcg… I have never been “tired” as one of my symptoms of hypothyroid…”I feel more wired and anxious than tired… Here is my lab:Last year first lab:TSH 3.09T4 1.3 (my Doc said that indicated I was hypothyroid)T 3 3.0Reverse T3 32Thyroglobulin Antibodies <20Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies 73 High (my doc said “I have seen much higher) and he was concerned Progesterone was .7 (that explained some of the anxiety then) My progesterone over the year got up to 11 (I have take Oral Progesterone) Estradiol 51 (My doc wants it at 80) I take sublingual trochs My meds come from Abrams Royal… My Dr. is having me restart it, so I am on 12.5mcg right now, he said he might “add some T4 in” later,I was so depressed the day I saw him that I didn’t even ask him what he meant by adding T4 in…I am having to take Ativan right now, 1 mg a day, not much more, I don’t like taking it, but magnesium,Or holy basil, or those kinds of suggestions don’t seem to assist the anxiousness.But I still feel depressed…I can tell you that I have never know a depression like this…and it happenedFrom going off the T3 is the only thing I can attribute it to…Could I have become sensitive to T3? I am on estrogen, I take it easy on Progesterone because it can cause depression…I seem to do ok on the time released Progesterone somedays for the anxiety… I started into menopause one year ago, I have no uterus, just ovaries, so maybe it takes a few yearsTo get through this. My Cortisol has been as high as 24 before, but never any higher, my iron is fine,But I am confused at T3 at this point…tomorrow I am up supposed to up my dose by 12.5mcg,But I am thinking I should do it slower…at 5mcg… Does anyone have any suggestions for me? Is adding in some T4 an answer for me?Does it cause anxiousness? Please help! Thank you, From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of BearrySent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 9:32 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Re: My Lab Results--Thyroid & Adrenals Thanks to everyone who responded. I really appreciate your sharing your knowledge and experiences. I only wish I had more to offer to the group. I am feeling so much better, don't know if it's the increased thyroid or being on the cortisone or some combination of the two, but I started feeling better almost immediately and feel more normal than I have in many months. I think I forgot (darn hypo memory) what he told me on the cortisol, and have been taking 2 pills in the AM and 1 pill around noon. (I've just been taking samples that he gave me in an unlabeled bottle till our follow-up appt.) Reading over my e-mail sent very shortly after the appt, I'd mentioned 1 and 1. But I feel really good on that dosage so maybe he will allow me to continue. I definitely will not go on the anti-anxiety meds. I didn't realize how badly they can mess you up over the long haul. I do know that I was put on Topamax quite a few years ago for migraine prevention, and that really did a number on me as far as dulling my thinking and impacting my memory, particularly word recall, that has lasted to this day. I really think it shaved about 15 points off my IQ. (If anyone wants to hear my story on Topomax, I'll be glad to share individually, but won't go into more details here in the interest of staying on-topic.) So I definitely don't want to take anything that will mess up my emotions in a similar way. Thank you for the warning, it has been heeded. My doctor said that he read a study where they tested 300 (?) people who were diagnosed clinically depressed. Half of them had undiagnosed hypothyroid. And that was by conventional standards of hypothyroid. Thanks again for the advice. I'll post again after my follow-up appointment on June 4 if there is additional info that others may find useful. B. Re: My Lab Results--Thyroid & Adrenals> > Yoga has been shown to be a very effective way to manage stress. The good thing > about it is that it's something you can do at home and you can get your kids > involved. You can get videos at your local library. > > You might also consider some activities for your kids that give you a break. I > totally understand the motivation for folks to homeschool, but that is likely > one of the most stressful jobs in the world. They found that stay at home moms > (that weren't even homeschooling) had stress levels equivalent to soldiers > on the front lines on the battlefield. Your body cannot heal if it's under > constant stress. My oldest sister home schooled and also encountered > significant health issues. I'm not saying that the health issues are > entirely due to raising kids - it was a combination of the genetic > predisposition and the environment. One thing she found that helped a lot was > to trade activities with other home school families. For example, she taught > tennis to several families and then the other families did activities like music > and art. That gave her a few breaks during the week AND it gave her a chance to > do something she really enjoys - tennis. > > You might also consider that you have hidden gluten in your diet. In general as > close as you can get to 100% is necessary to benefit from a gluten free diet. > Even a small amount of gluten can damage the gut and exacerbate autoimmune > issues due to the inflammatory reaction and gluten is a known contributor to > depression. Prescription drugs are a very common culprit, in particular if you > are taking any generics. Supplements can also be very problematic. I will not > use a supplement or Rx drug unless I can verify with the manufacturer that it is > gluten free. The same with food products. I do not consume products that have > been manufactured in a location that also processes wheat. There is too much > potential for cross contamination. You have to be very careful of companies > that label their products as not containing any ingredients for gluten as that > implies they do not guarantee in any way that the product is truly gluten-free. > The safest products are those that indicate the manufacturer does regular > tests for gluten in their products. > > Also, many of us that are gluten intolerant also have other food intolerances. > Egg whites bother me a lot. Another consideration is that many of us with > autoimmune issues have issues with toxins (note the previous discussion on > methylation defects related to low vitamin B12). Toxins can contribute to > anxiety. I am extremely sensitive to EMF. I do not use WiFi in my home. I > learned this when our router broke and we did not have WiFi for a week - I had > one of the best weeks I had had in years. Then when we got the router fixed, > the problems returned. So, I started keeping the WiFi off during the day as I > work at home. I would turn it on when my kids came home from school and I was > noticing one night after they got home I was in the kitchen fixing dinner and > all of sudden felt extremely anxious - there was nothing going on. The kids and > I were in a fine mood when they got home from school. Whenever I go out of town > my sons turn the WiFi on and I sometimes forget that and then realize (as my > anxiety increases) that the WiFi is still on. > > I know I've gotten slightly OT, but for many of us the thyroid and even > adrenal issues are just one piece of the puzzle. > > Good luck.> B. > > >> >> I started being treated last year for borderline hypo with hashis and very > high cortisol.� I can't remember the exact numbers for each time of day, > but my doctor told me I was heading for adrenal fatigue.� My overall cortisol > load was 61 (normal 23-42).� Was diagnosed gluten intolerant as well.� He > put me on Armour, Seriphos, Adapt, selenium, sea salt, and I began to steadily > improve over most of the year.� A couple months ago, during a period of very > high stress, I started feeling out of sorts again, and this has continued to get > worse.� I feel depressed and stressed, highly irritable, and don't know if > it's the thyroid, the adrenals, or some combination of the two.� I am > thinking of asking my doctor to put me on some kind of specifically anti-anxiety > drug, something to take the edge off.� I hate to do that, would rather just > get my hormones back in order instead of likely screwing up my system even more > with anti-anxiety drugs, but I am around>> my kids all the time (homeschool), and my irritability is having a > negative impact on them.� The stress in my life that precipitated this decline > in health has continued, and I am having a hard time tolerating it, much less > handling it.>> >> >> My doctor was running very late today so I didn't press him for too > much info, as I have another appointment next week and will discuss in more > detail with him then.� He told me to double my Armour in the am, and to > continue taking my regular dose of Armour at 2:00 pm.� He gave me 5 mg. of > cortisol and said to take one in the AM for a few days and if it doesn't > increase anxiety take one in AM and one at noon.� Also said to continue on > with the Seriphos and to increase Adapt to 2x/day instead of 1x/day.>> >> >> Here are my latest results.� Any insights would be appreciated.>> >> Free T4:� 0.85 (0.82-1.77)>> Free T3:� 2.5 (2.0-2.4)>> >> TSH:� 0.67 (0.45-4.5)>> >> Cortisol>> 8:00 am:� 5 (13-24)>> 11:00 am:� 3 (5-10)>> 4:00 pm:� 4 (3-8)>> 10:00 pm:� 1 (1-4)>> Cortisol load:� 13 (23-42)>> >> DHEA + DHEA-S:� 6 (3-10)>> >> Insulin>> Fasting:� <3 (3-12)>> Non-Fasting:� <3 (5-20)>> >> Progesterone:� 34 (23-100)>> >> Total Salivary SIgA:� 11 (25-60)>> >> Thanks in advance,>> >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------> >

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I have never taken T4 thus far, as I only began taking any thyroid last year,

Which was T3 only.It is possible to ask, and receive T4 once the RT3 has cleared. I have added in some Armour to my cytomel and seem to be doing a little better than I was on T3 alone. I was having trouble with getting going in the morning when on cytomel alone. With the small amount of T4 that the Armour has, I have a little more get up and go. At each appointment, I ask for more Armour. When 6 weeks are up this time, I plan to fax and ask for more Armour to see if that will keep me moving forward. Every time I have tried synthetic T4, I have gotten a migraine.

Susie