Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Maybe I just don't get it. When I read BK's books, she states that " Until you can see everything in the world as a friend, your work is not done. " How can we ask that a certain subject/ANY SUBJECT not be allowed on a forum like that? I thought that everything leads to inquiry. Everything is a reflection of our own selves and that is where the work begins. If someone brings up an off topic subject and it bothers me, then " Welcome to the work, Kris! " What am I missing here? If any subject does not reflect my own stories, then I have no work to do and I am free. Why should I hold strict guidlines to anything or anyone? It's not like we're spamming erections here. We're all searching for the same thing, freedom from our stories, where the pain is associated from a belief. If it leads to someone venturing out on a limb, then so be it. If it leads to someone leaving this forum to gain something deeper from ACIM or any other source, then so be it. Can we not send them off with love and welcome them back when they return? Where's Marriane when I need her??? I can see six blank pages coming on! (Page 203 in Loving What Is.) Oh what a night!!! > >> > >> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a > >> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about > >> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books > >> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the > >> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating > >> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather > >> than a quote. > >> > >> My 2 cents. > >> sharon > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 And Vivian, you may be 100 percent right about proselytizing. I don't know anything about a " money grab " with ACIM and perhaps you can enlighten me there, nor do I know who Tami is, although I've read several of her posts trying to figure out what was her problem here, but none of it really mattered to me. I was doing the work and it was setting me free. That's all I know. > > >> > > >> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a > > >> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about > > >> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books > > >> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the > > >> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating > > >> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather > > >> than a quote. > > >> > > >> My 2 cents. > > >> sharon > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Thank you! I am a little confused about (OLIE) and (LVTWKOFBK) Are they one and the same or two different people? And yes I was looking for you, because you are all about love and doing the work. Got another question while I have you here...If this group is solely for The Work, then aren't we better off doing the work,(away from the computer) allowing it to set us free, and then coming on here and sharing how that happened for us? > > > >> > > > >> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a > > > >> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about > > > >> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books > > > >> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the > > > >> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating > > > >> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather > > > >> than a quote. > > > >> > > > >> My 2 cents. > > > >> sharon > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 *It's not like we're spamming erections here.* I love this line! We have had the pussy talks and penis dialogues...so you never know.... Love, nne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 You make some really valid points. However, when you write: " We're all searching for the same thing, freedom from our stories " you can't know what others are searching for. You believe everyone on this Board is searching for freedom from their stories. I believe some (the ACIM grp) is proselytizing and trying to steer people into ACIM which I see as a money grab among other things. I have no issue with " people " also checking out other opportunities. I just don't want a board used by others for nefarious purposes and that's what I see happening here. By the way, I am also the one who objected to what I saw as some of Tami's shenanigans. Vivian Re: My Two Cents... Maybe I just don't get it. When I read BK's books, she states that " Until you can see everything in the world as a friend, your work is not done. " How can we ask that a certain subject/ANY SUBJECT not be allowed on a forum like that? I thought that everything leads to inquiry. Everything is a reflection of our own selves and that is where the work begins. If someone brings up an off topic subject and it bothers me, then " Welcome to the work, Kris! " What am I missing here? If any subject does not reflect my own stories, then I have no work to do and I am free. Why should I hold strict guidlines to anything or anyone? It's not like we're spamming erections here. We're all searching for the same thing, freedom from our stories, where the pain is associated from a belief. If it leads to someone venturing out on a limb, then so be it. If it leads to someone leaving this forum to gain something deeper from ACIM or any other source, then so be it. Can we not send them off with love and welcome them back when they return? Where's Marriane when I need her??? I can see six blank pages coming on! (Page 203 in Loving What Is.) Oh what a night!!! > >> > >> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a > >> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about > >> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books > >> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the > >> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating > >> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather > >> than a quote. > >> > >> My 2 cents. > >> sharon > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 And we are all doing the best we can in the moment, nothing else is possible. It is painful for me to believe otherwise. The universe is friendly, until I think and believe it is not. In your business Vivian and maybe you might work " I want this to be a pure, safe place in which to do the Work " . > > And that's what's important. Good for you. > > Perhaps I get distracted by my stories. > > One of them is that I want this to be a pure, safe place in which to do the Work and I rail against what I see as not being that. > > Vivian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 And that's what's important. Good for you. Perhaps I get distracted by my stories. One of them is that I want this to be a pure, safe place in which to do the Work and I rail against what I see as not being that. Vivian Re: My Two Cents... And Vivian, you may be 100 percent right about proselytizing. I don't know anything about a " money grab " with ACIM and perhaps you can enlighten me there, nor do I know who Tami is, although I've read several of her posts trying to figure out what was her problem here, but none of it really mattered to me. I was doing the work and it was setting me free. That's all I know. > > >> > > >> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a > > >> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about > > >> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books > > >> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the > > >> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating > > >> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather > > >> than a quote. > > >> > > >> My 2 cents. > > >> sharon > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Dear one who is all about love and doing the work, (Kris) > Thank you! I am a little confused about (OLIE) and > (LVTWKOFBK) Are they one and the same or two different > people? Two different people. And yes I was looking for you, because you are all about > love and doing the work. oh, that is so sweeeet! Thank you! Now turn that around 'cause it takes one to know one! Got another question while I have you > here...If this group is solely for The Work, then aren't we better > off doing the work,(away from the computer) allowing it to set us > free, and then coming on here and sharing how that happened for us? > Well, the way I hear it...people are doing just that (doing The Work and coming here to share...Even when they post that The Work isn't working for them or want things to be different in the world. It's just thoughts and more thoughts and I thank them for sharing their thoughts but I don't have to believe them. And I can love the one who is sharing the thoughts because I see that people are not their thoughts or actions. They are sweet ~ hearts believing what they are believing. I don't know if this helps or not. About 2 years ago, I see that there is something more than thoughts and mind. Mind is not all we are. Love, nne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Thank you nne, for all the answers. I just realized something very cool, so I'm going to email you privately, hope it goes thru. > > Dear one who is all about love and doing the work, (Kris) > > > Thank you! I am a little confused about (OLIE) and > > (LVTWKOFBK) Are they one and the same or two different > > people? > Two different people. > > And yes I was looking for you, because you are all about > > love and doing the work. > > oh, that is so sweeeet! Thank you! Now turn that around 'cause it > takes one to know one! > > > Got another question while I have you > > here...If this group is solely for The Work, then aren't we better > > off doing the work,(away from the computer) allowing it to set us > > free, and then coming on here and sharing how that happened for us? > > > > Well, the way I hear it...people are doing just that (doing The Work > and coming here to share...Even when they post that The Work isn't > working for them or want things to be different in the world. It's > just thoughts and more thoughts and I thank them for sharing their > thoughts but I don't have to believe them. And I can love the one who > is sharing the thoughts because I see that people are not their > thoughts or actions. They are sweet ~ hearts believing what they are > believing. > > I don't know if this helps or not. > > About 2 years ago, I see that there is something more than thoughts > and mind. Mind is not all we are. > > Love, nne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Dear Vivian: said: " And I know they are giving their best! " That does not imply that someone may not be attempting to " proselytize " . Perhaps proselytizing is their best? Steve D. > >> > >> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a > >> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about > >> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books > >> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the > >> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating > >> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather > >> than a quote. > >> > >> My 2 cents. > >> sharon > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Vivian, Darn you for sharing your fears. I was just getting ready to ask everyone for a " love " donation for my ACIM Church and you blew my cover. Steve D. > > >> > > >> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a > > >> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about > > >> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books > > >> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the > > >> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating > > >> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather > > >> than a quote. > > >> > > >> My 2 cents. > > >> sharon > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Vivian, That seems strange. I feel perfectly safe doing the Work here or anywhere else. What is threatening here to you? Are you afaid that someone is going to take your money if they quote the ACIM? I truly do not understand where your feeling of not being safe are coming from? Someone told me once that " Nothing real can be threatened and nothing unreal truly exists. Therein lies the Peace of God. " Steve D. > > > >> > > > >> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a > > > >> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about > > > >> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books > > > >> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the > > > >> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating > > > >> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather > > > >> than a quote. > > > >> > > > >> My 2 cents. > > > >> sharon > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 > > > Just a little history...there was a time not long ago that 2 > playful girls, Tami and , were asked by Lovetheworkofbk to > leave because he didn't like what they were writing. He referred to > his golf forum as a good example of where people were kind and > civil to each other and didn't discuss anything like acim or The > Work...he liked that they stayed focused on discussions on > golf...so it is ironic to me that he keeps bringing up acim and > quotes it and stuff....and pretty funny too. So we tease him about > that a little bit. > LOL ... nne if you re-read my posts I think you will see that I never asked Tami or to leave the group. I simply expressed my preference that what they wrote had something to do with the Work. If you re-read my current posts I think you will see that they all make some reference to the Work of BK. Sure I have introduced something extra with ACIM, but that does not mean that I am off-topic just extending the boundaries of what is being discussed. I would be off- topic if I posted why a Made R7 driver had superior ball flight compared to other drivers. But as you know I am way to kind and civil to the members of this group to make such an error. Have a beautiful day " There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. " Byron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Okay, now you are at the top of my list of funny and lighthearted people in this group. Just so's you know, golfer man. nne > > Just a little history...there was a time not long ago that 2 > > playful girls, Tami and , were asked by Lovetheworkofbk to > > leave because he didn't like what they were writing. He referred to > > his golf forum as a good example of where people were kind and > > civil to each other and didn't discuss anything like acim or The > > Work...he liked that they stayed focused on discussions on > > golf...so it is ironic to me that he keeps bringing up acim and > > quotes it and stuff....and pretty funny too. So we tease him about > > that a little bit. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 And the reality is that apparently it isn't. but one can try to achieve that and push this board in that direction. thanks, Vivian Re: My Two Cents... And we are all doing the best we can in the moment, nothing else is possible. It is painful for me to believe otherwise. The universe is friendly, until I think and believe it is not. In your business Vivian and maybe you might work " I want this to be a pure, safe place in which to do the Work " . > > And that's what's important. Good for you. > > Perhaps I get distracted by my stories. > > One of them is that I want this to be a pure, safe place in which to do the Work and I rail against what I see as not being that. > > Vivian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 > > You believe everyone on this Board is searching for freedom from > their stories. I believe some (the ACIM grp) is proselytizing and > trying to steer people into ACIM which I see as a money grab among > other things. > ACIM a money grab? Shall we consider the facts? ACIM (Ken Wapnick) CD $16-50 $9-00 DVD $24-95 $13-50 Book (HC) $24-95 $20-00 1 day seminar $250-00 $50-00 Given what Ken is charging for his materials, I think it would be truer to say that is the one making the money grab. Not that this makes bad or sinful, just a shrewd business woman. " There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. " Byron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Well... This is not about being right. Their motive is their business. My business is: whom am I, when I believe they want to proselytize? And who am I whitout that thought? Love, PS: by the way: " knowing " here means the same as " believing " , don't you think? Am 22.05.2007 um 20:56 schrieb Vivian Barning: > And I know they are giving their best! > > > , can you really know that? Are you absolutely sure no one > is being devious? I believe some people are using this board as a > place to proselytize. I can't absolutely know that, but neither can > you absolutely know they are giving their best. > > Vivian > Re: My Two Cents... > > > I don't think anyone is having separation in mind when he asks for > not having off-list postings in here. > > Someone subscribes to a group looking for certain information. > Like... > > I heard of a Golf-Forum once, where people don't speak about neither > the work NOR acim, at all! People there are kind enough to keep to > the forum's guidelines. > > I forgot whom I heard that from... ;-) > > But... > > this is a forum not " just " about doing the work. People who would > like to discuss the " mechanics " of the work or mind and thoughts are > welcome... All I ask is for it to be in " some way " related to the > work. I can see how that is hard for some to achieve. > > And I know they are giving their best! > > And I can read their posts, and love them for trying. > > Or I can skip their posts, and still love them. > > But not loving them, that's what hurts. So, pain is just a reminder > that I am separating from love. And that's just a story. > > Love, > > > Am 22.05.2007 um 17:26 schrieb integr8td2004: > >> There is something pretty special going on here. This whole oneness >> concept can be such a beautiful thing. I recognize separation now >> when I see it. Yes, this is a " love the Work " group. And yes, I >> come here too, because I get to read the experiences of other's doing >> the work and it helps me internalize the process. However, I came >> here as a direct result of constant references to Byron from >> members of an ACIM group. I too felt like they both had the same >> message, worded differently, so that I could better understand. It's >> two paths to getting to the same place and both are beautiful, and >> special, but as I see it, they are one. So forgive me for throwing >> in two cents that may or may not be spendable, but I get the best of >> both right here. I didn't have to abandon one for the other, which >> to me is separation out of judgement and/or guilt. ACIM is worded in >> such a way that my mind could not break it down into bite size >> pieces. I found BK's work more digestable and easily understood and >> applied. It was like someone explaining ACIM to a six year old in >> english. refers to it being innocent like a child. As long as >> we try to take it on as adults, with so many stories that it cannot >> penetrate, we end up separating. I love the work and it has changed >> my whole perspective on life. Without it, I could not understand >> ACIM. Going to a ACIM group is a beautiful experience, but for some >> like me, it can be like reading spanish when all I know in spanish >> are cuss words. If I could find just one or two cuss words in there >> somewhere, I might be able to get part of this message. There weren't >> any, so I was lost. But I still need the message. So I was lead >> here. >> Love to you all. >> Kris >> P.S. I'll try to throw in a quarter next time. >> >> >> >> >>> >>> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a >>> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about >>> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books >>> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the >>> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating >>> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather >>> than a quote. >>> >>> My 2 cents. >>> sharon >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Thanks for the laugh. Vivian Re: My Two Cents... Vivian, Darn you for sharing your fears. I was just getting ready to ask everyone for a " love " donation for my ACIM Church and you blew my cover. Steve D. > > >> > > >> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a > > >> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about > > >> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books > > >> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the > > >> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating > > >> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather > > >> than a quote. > > >> > > >> My 2 cents. > > >> sharon > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Good catch. Thanks. Vivian Re: My Two Cents... Dear Vivian: said: " And I know they are giving their best! " That does not imply that someone may not be attempting to " proselytize " . Perhaps proselytizing is their best? Steve D. > >> > >> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a > >> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about > >> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books > >> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the > >> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating > >> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather > >> than a quote. > >> > >> My 2 cents. > >> sharon > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 It isn't so much not feeling safe. I take this board seriously and my story is others should as well. And yet alot of what I read here is outside the Work: Whether it is addithya pontificating or someone on an ACIM trip or Tami putting forth some obscenity and calling it the Work. I guess what I'm saying is that given those examples, this isn't a place I'd be comfortable opening up on my issues, although many of the people appear to be quite wonderful. Vivian Re: My Two Cents... Vivian, That seems strange. I feel perfectly safe doing the Work here or anywhere else. What is threatening here to you? Are you afaid that someone is going to take your money if they quote the ACIM? I truly do not understand where your feeling of not being safe are coming from? Someone told me once that " Nothing real can be threatened and nothing unreal truly exists. Therein lies the Peace of God. " Steve D. > > > >> > > > >> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a > > > >> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about > > > >> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books > > > >> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the > > > >> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating > > > >> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather > > > >> than a quote. > > > >> > > > >> My 2 cents. > > > >> sharon > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 You omitted, What's in it for me to continue reading the messages on this Board. That is certainly a factor as well. Vivian Re: My Two Cents... > > > I don't think anyone is having separation in mind when he asks for > not having off-list postings in here. > > Someone subscribes to a group looking for certain information. > Like... > > I heard of a Golf-Forum once, where people don't speak about neither > the work NOR acim, at all! People there are kind enough to keep to > the forum's guidelines. > > I forgot whom I heard that from... ;-) > > But... > > this is a forum not " just " about doing the work. People who would > like to discuss the " mechanics " of the work or mind and thoughts are > welcome... All I ask is for it to be in " some way " related to the > work. I can see how that is hard for some to achieve. > > And I know they are giving their best! > > And I can read their posts, and love them for trying. > > Or I can skip their posts, and still love them. > > But not loving them, that's what hurts. So, pain is just a reminder > that I am separating from love. And that's just a story. > > Love, > > > Am 22.05.2007 um 17:26 schrieb integr8td2004: > >> There is something pretty special going on here. This whole oneness >> concept can be such a beautiful thing. I recognize separation now >> when I see it. Yes, this is a " love the Work " group. And yes, I >> come here too, because I get to read the experiences of other's doing >> the work and it helps me internalize the process. However, I came >> here as a direct result of constant references to Byron from >> members of an ACIM group. I too felt like they both had the same >> message, worded differently, so that I could better understand. It's >> two paths to getting to the same place and both are beautiful, and >> special, but as I see it, they are one. So forgive me for throwing >> in two cents that may or may not be spendable, but I get the best of >> both right here. I didn't have to abandon one for the other, which >> to me is separation out of judgement and/or guilt. ACIM is worded in >> such a way that my mind could not break it down into bite size >> pieces. I found BK's work more digestable and easily understood and >> applied. It was like someone explaining ACIM to a six year old in >> english. refers to it being innocent like a child. As long as >> we try to take it on as adults, with so many stories that it cannot >> penetrate, we end up separating. I love the work and it has changed >> my whole perspective on life. Without it, I could not understand >> ACIM. Going to a ACIM group is a beautiful experience, but for some >> like me, it can be like reading spanish when all I know in spanish >> are cuss words. If I could find just one or two cuss words in there >> somewhere, I might be able to get part of this message. There weren't >> any, so I was lost. But I still need the message. So I was lead >> here. >> Love to you all. >> Kris >> P.S. I'll try to throw in a quarter next time. >> >> >> >> >>> >>> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a >>> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about >>> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books >>> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the >>> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating >>> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather >>> than a quote. >>> >>> My 2 cents. >>> sharon >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 The following is exactly the type crap I am referring to. It's NOT what I'm on this Board to read. Have some........... and tell them to go to their own board. Vivian <There is a book called A Course In Miracles. Before getting bogged down on other folks understanding of this book, I recommend that you get the book, or borrow it and read it for yourself and see if it reasonates with you, I believe there are free online copies of this book. ACIM is a self-study Course, it encourages one to get in touch with one's internal Teacher and to be guided. There are A Course in Miracle listervs that deal exclusively with what this book is about and although The Work is a very useful tool with some of the life situations one may get stuck in and the process is not contrary to the teachings of ACIM, ACIM as a self-study forgiveness process goes so much deeper and this listserv is not set up for that.> I don't know if this post was meant for me, but I am a very grateful Course student already! Re: My Two Cents... > > > I don't think anyone is having separation in mind when he asks for > not having off-list postings in here. > > Someone subscribes to a group looking for certain information. > Like... > > I heard of a Golf-Forum once, where people don't speak about neither > the work NOR acim, at all! People there are kind enough to keep to > the forum's guidelines. > > I forgot whom I heard that from... ;-) > > But... > > this is a forum not " just " about doing the work. People who would > like to discuss the " mechanics " of the work or mind and thoughts are > welcome... All I ask is for it to be in " some way " related to the > work. I can see how that is hard for some to achieve. > > And I know they are giving their best! > > And I can read their posts, and love them for trying. > > Or I can skip their posts, and still love them. > > But not loving them, that's what hurts. So, pain is just a reminder > that I am separating from love. And that's just a story. > > Love, > > > Am 22.05.2007 um 17:26 schrieb integr8td2004: > >> There is something pretty special going on here. This whole oneness >> concept can be such a beautiful thing. I recognize separation now >> when I see it. Yes, this is a " love the Work " group. And yes, I >> come here too, because I get to read the experiences of other's doing >> the work and it helps me internalize the process. However, I came >> here as a direct result of constant references to Byron from >> members of an ACIM group. I too felt like they both had the same >> message, worded differently, so that I could better understand. It's >> two paths to getting to the same place and both are beautiful, and >> special, but as I see it, they are one. So forgive me for throwing >> in two cents that may or may not be spendable, but I get the best of >> both right here. I didn't have to abandon one for the other, which >> to me is separation out of judgement and/or guilt. ACIM is worded in >> such a way that my mind could not break it down into bite size >> pieces. I found BK's work more digestable and easily understood and >> applied. It was like someone explaining ACIM to a six year old in >> english. refers to it being innocent like a child. As long as >> we try to take it on as adults, with so many stories that it cannot >> penetrate, we end up separating. I love the work and it has changed >> my whole perspective on life. Without it, I could not understand >> ACIM. Going to a ACIM group is a beautiful experience, but for some >> like me, it can be like reading spanish when all I know in spanish >> are cuss words. If I could find just one or two cuss words in there >> somewhere, I might be able to get part of this message. There weren't >> any, so I was lost. But I still need the message. So I was lead >> here. >> Love to you all. >> Kris >> P.S. I'll try to throw in a quarter next time. >> >> >> >> >>> >>> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a >>> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about >>> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books >>> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the >>> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating >>> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather >>> than a quote. >>> >>> My 2 cents. >>> sharon >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 Well, it's not time for you to open up your issues, it's time for Tami, addithya and someone opening up their issues. Can you take THEM seriously? Instead of the board (aka yourself)? And I don't think that you can make yourself taking them seriuosly. Love, Am 23.05.2007 um 07:46 schrieb Vivian Barning: > It isn't so much not feeling safe. I take this board seriously and > my story is others should as well. > > And yet alot of what I read here is outside the Work: Whether it is > addithya pontificating or someone on an ACIM trip or Tami putting > forth some obscenity and calling it the Work. > > I guess what I'm saying is that given those examples, this isn't a > place I'd be comfortable opening up on my issues, although many of > the people appear to be quite wonderful. > > Vivian > Re: My Two Cents... > > > Vivian, > > That seems strange. I feel perfectly safe doing the Work here or > anywhere else. What is threatening here to you? Are you afaid that > someone is going to take your money if they quote the ACIM? I truly > do not understand where your feeling of not being safe are coming > from? > > Someone told me once that " Nothing real can be threatened and > nothing > unreal truly exists. Therein lies the Peace of God. " > > Steve D. > > >>>>>> >>>>>> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a >>>>>> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about >>>>>> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books >>>>>> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the >>>>>> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating >>>>>> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather >>>>>> than a quote. >>>>>> >>>>>> My 2 cents. >>>>>> sharon >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 What's IN IT FOR *YOU*?? Well, you're here, so there must be something to being here, for you. I don't think that anyone *should* be here. The world is big enough for any of us. And everyone of us takes his world to wherever he goes. If you don't get it here, you get it somewhere else in your world. And if you don't get it soon, you will get it before the end of time. That said... What for do you need what you expected to get here? If you got it, what would you do next? Love, Am 23.05.2007 um 21:26 schrieb Vivian Barning: > You omitted, What's in it for me to continue reading the messages > on this Board. That is certainly a factor as well. > > Vivian > Re: My Two Cents... >> >> >> I don't think anyone is having separation in mind when he asks for >> not having off-list postings in here. >> >> Someone subscribes to a group looking for certain information. >> Like... >> >> I heard of a Golf-Forum once, where people don't speak about neither >> the work NOR acim, at all! People there are kind enough to keep to >> the forum's guidelines. >> >> I forgot whom I heard that from... ;-) >> >> But... >> >> this is a forum not " just " about doing the work. People who would >> like to discuss the " mechanics " of the work or mind and thoughts are >> welcome... All I ask is for it to be in " some way " related to the >> work. I can see how that is hard for some to achieve. >> >> And I know they are giving their best! >> >> And I can read their posts, and love them for trying. >> >> Or I can skip their posts, and still love them. >> >> But not loving them, that's what hurts. So, pain is just a reminder >> that I am separating from love. And that's just a story. >> >> Love, >> >> >> Am 22.05.2007 um 17:26 schrieb integr8td2004: >> >>> There is something pretty special going on here. This whole oneness >>> concept can be such a beautiful thing. I recognize separation now >>> when I see it. Yes, this is a " love the Work " group. And yes, I >>> come here too, because I get to read the experiences of other's >>> doing >>> the work and it helps me internalize the process. However, I came >>> here as a direct result of constant references to Byron from >>> members of an ACIM group. I too felt like they both had the same >>> message, worded differently, so that I could better understand. It's >>> two paths to getting to the same place and both are beautiful, and >>> special, but as I see it, they are one. So forgive me for throwing >>> in two cents that may or may not be spendable, but I get the best of >>> both right here. I didn't have to abandon one for the other, which >>> to me is separation out of judgement and/or guilt. ACIM is worded in >>> such a way that my mind could not break it down into bite size >>> pieces. I found BK's work more digestable and easily understood and >>> applied. It was like someone explaining ACIM to a six year old in >>> english. refers to it being innocent like a child. As long as >>> we try to take it on as adults, with so many stories that it cannot >>> penetrate, we end up separating. I love the work and it has changed >>> my whole perspective on life. Without it, I could not understand >>> ACIM. Going to a ACIM group is a beautiful experience, but for some >>> like me, it can be like reading spanish when all I know in spanish >>> are cuss words. If I could find just one or two cuss words in there >>> somewhere, I might be able to get part of this message. There >>> weren't >>> any, so I was lost. But I still need the message. So I was lead >>> here. >>> Love to you all. >>> Kris >>> P.S. I'll try to throw in a quarter next time. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a >>>> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about >>>> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books >>>> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the >>>> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating >>>> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather >>>> than a quote. >>>> >>>> My 2 cents. >>>> sharon >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 > >>>> > >>>> This acim response is so not the BK work. It is a > >>>> direct quote from acim. I go to this grp to read about > >>>> self inquiry. I can read acim quotes elsewhere, books > >>>> elsewhere, etc . I would rather read about the > >>>> 'aliveness' of the work here that someone is relating > >>>> to from direct experience of 'doing' the work, rather > >>>> than a quote. > >>>> > >>>> My 2 cents. > >>>> sharon > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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