Guest guest Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 I just this post about colon inflamation. When I was in my sick building I also had a lot of intestinal problems. Had a colonoscopy done and was told I had colitis. It was very uncomfortable and frightening. Couldn't give me a reason except stress. I didn't chew ice but I was never without an ice cold drink usually water, caffeine free tea or coke.Interesting I never thought about the cold drinks just thought it was excessive thirst. Sue ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Hi Barb, The neutrophils were tested as part of a routine CBC in recent blood work here. Regarding paleness...others who have had exposures have noted that paleness goes away somewhat with Nystatin. Anyone else have the paleness go away with certain treatments, supplements? Interesting that you should mention the ice chewing. I was chewing a lot of ice post exposure until my dentist told me I was wearing down my enamel on the teeth. I too had a colonoscopy and endoscopy after getting out of my sick building and all the doctor would state was very inflammed. I asked why. She said " We don't know why. " Told me to take Prevacid. I've been doing digestive enzymes instead since exposure which I believe is helping tolerate other foods that I couldn't eat after I was exposed. Does Dr. Croft think that digestive enzymes can help heal the lining? Makes sense though to chew ice to deal with soothing the inflammation.I have had problems with anemia too. Interesting connections. Thanks for sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Dr Croft, Re: digestive damage: avoidance and detoxify. Avoid exposure to toxins, damage accumulates, detoxify to stop the damage. I've read the tissue of digestive tract is quicker to heal than other body tissues but I have continuing gi troubles that don't seem to be improving. Last fall I was really feeling well, appetite improved, more energy, was staying at a $40 a day extended stay but moved to a temporary apt to save money but health slide very badly. After doing some extensive cleanup of apartment I am doing better but so I have a house that I can't take and an apartment that isn't real healthy either *apparently*..i.e. if I keep door closed without my air cleaner going, has strong organic odors. I got apartment to point I was doing pretty good in winter but when summer came in, health status has slide and accidentally leaving air cleaner off, realized apartment didn't smell alright, so going to have to move AGAING. Idea is to finish my porch which is completely outside house envelope and no mold but really outside living right now which I couldn't take, but meeting with someone to plan the 20X10 room, shell is already there, but just screens. Since popcycles and ice cream have sugar, going to try to move on to shaved ice. Figure cooling the gi tract must be helpful. I've been making homemade popcycles out of fruit juice lately. Ice chewing as a symptom of anemia/iron deficiency referred to in reference materials like Mayo Clinic. I was shocked. > > Hi Barb, > The neutrophils were tested as part of a routine CBC in recent blood > work here. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Hi Salz, I had people tell me I was white as a ghost, and I cant say if herbal detox did much for the paleness as I had to stop use after about a month and was still very ill. I still get very pale when something gets to me and I fell like passing out but thats not the same as the blood leaves my head and it turns white. I have problems with sunlight glare and heat intolerance and some days just cant breath out side so I no longer naturally tan from being outdoors alot. I was always so tan I dont know if anyine would know if my paleness is from illness or just not being out enough to tan at this point. but those that know me do make comments about how pale I look. I know some days I'm paler than others depending on how well I fell. > > So glad you posted this. Recent blood work shows low neutrophil > counts. All doctors have been asked about what to do regarding > this...unanimous answer so far... " No problem, nothing to do about it > to correct it...only have to worry when neutrophil levels are too > high " they state. hmmmmmmm wonder if these low levels have anything to > do with the skin paleness one gets after exposure which doesn't seem > to return...anyone know? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 a cbc includes a neutrophil count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Salz,on the neutrophils level, aplastic anemia is found by bone marrow buopsy. as thats where they are derived from. I think levels found in blood or other testing may vary alot, like exposed vd. bo longer exposed,ect. neutrophils are vrought to the site where damage is accuring to kill the invader, like mycotoxins distroying a spot if your mucus lineing, say in your stomach. read that they are not part of granulomas as they get disposed of by necrosis, I had dead cells in my urine during exposure and awhile afterwards, doctors noted it but didn't lnow why and didn't think to have them tested but I'm fairly sure they were neutrophils. as most everything esle can stay at the site and be part of grauulomas abcesses. > > So glad you posted this. Recent blood work shows low neutrophil > counts. All doctors have been asked about what to do regarding > this...unanimous answer so far... " No problem, nothing to do about it > to correct it...only have to worry when neutrophil levels are too > high " they state. hmmmmmmm wonder if these low levels have anything to > do with the skin paleness one gets after exposure which doesn't seem > to return...anyone know? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Many yrs. ago I worked at a hospital and attended the weekly rounds with some of the Drs. One (I think Korean) would always drink a cup of warm water while everyone else drank coffee or tea. He said it was good for you. It all makes sense to me. Sue in 2004, , the person who has the best protocol for liver flushes, told me that drinking cold beverages shocks your kidneys, which makes sense 'cause our body temp is normally 98.6. she said the best temp for drinking anything is warm, 2nd best = room temp. another tip she gave me is to drink 2 cups warm water upon waking...this will help clear out the intestines & kidneys. going on 3 years now and i'm a believer. you could maybe try a good digestive enzyme like Total-Gest. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 in 2004, , the person who has the best protocol for liver flushes, told me that drinking cold beverages shocks your kidneys, which makes sense 'cause our body temp is normally 98.6. she said the best temp for drinking anything is warm, 2nd best = room temp. another tip she gave me is to drink 2 cups warm water upon waking...this will help clear out the intestines & kidneys. going on 3 years now and i'm a believer. you could maybe try a good digestive enzyme like Total-Gest. > > > I just this post about colon inflamation. When I was in my sick building I > also had a lot of intestinal problems. Had a colonoscopy done and was told I > had colitis. It was very uncomfortable and frightening. Couldn't give me a > reason except stress. I didn't chew ice but I was never without an ice cold drink > usually water, caffeine free tea or coke.Interesting I never thought about > the cold drinks just thought it was excessive thirst. > > Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 My best friends' father was a doctor and she told me she didn't drink icy beverages since the cold wasn't good for her. I assumed she got that from her Dad. It was when we were late teens, and not really into " healthy things " ...you take health for granted at that age and constantly testing the boundaries of that or I did anyway, so I doubted she was reading up on that. Anyway, I stopped putting ice into beverages and didn't miss it. learned to prefer cold but not icy and have done so all my life. I don't even ever make ice cubes. I happen not to be too fond of ice cream. That is why the ice cream/ popcycle seemed weird to me until I read that. As for warm water in a.m. I took care of my great aunt who lived to be 4 months passed 100 (I took care of her for 12 years so I will take partical credit for her long life too), but she took very good care of herself, never went to a doctor, saying " they can't make you well " ..she was so smart. Of course usually can't or not interested in making you well, but sometimes... Anyway a neighbor and friend of hers, husband was a doctor and he told her to drink a cup of hot water in the morning to rinse system out. I thought it was hot but of course drinking temperature. She did that every morning. However she also drank coffee afterwards. Basically she ate 3 meals a day, ate plenty of nuts I remember -cashews she liked the most, got plenty of exercise by way of habits she had, slept like a LOG, like 11-12 hours a night. I always thought she was faking and would check on her and she was really sleeping, from 11 pm to about 11 am. She was a lucky gun really. Had good genes, took care of herself, low stress in life (inherited money when she was 15) and smart as they come. The warm water suggestion reminded me of her. --- In , " xhannahx24 " <xhannahx24@...> wrote: > >t temp for drinking anything is warm, 2nd best = room temp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Yes, I too have had an upper endoscopy with the same result; diagnosed with chronic gastritis / inflammation and I too (in the summer) chew lots of ice. I asked my private doctor about this and he said the endoscopy was a waste of time (unless you have some other health problem going on other than mold) because neither upper or lower looks at the small intestines where you actually absorb nutrients. It sounds like we are all having the same treatments done with the same results.... Not getting many helpful answers from these doctors. > > Hi Barb, > The neutrophils were tested as part of a routine CBC in recent blood > work here. > > Regarding paleness...others who have had exposures have noted that > paleness goes away somewhat with Nystatin. Anyone else have the > paleness go away with certain treatments, supplements? > > Interesting that you should mention the ice chewing. I was chewing a > lot of ice post exposure until my dentist told me I was wearing down > my enamel on the teeth. > > I too had a colonoscopy and endoscopy after getting out of my sick > building and all the doctor would state was very inflammed. I asked > why. She said " We don't know why. " Told me to take Prevacid. > > I've been doing digestive enzymes instead since exposure which I > believe is helping tolerate other foods that I couldn't eat after I > was exposed. > > Does Dr. Croft think that digestive enzymes can help heal the lining? > > Makes sense though to chew ice to deal with soothing the > inflammation.I have had problems with anemia too. Interesting > connections. Thanks for sharing > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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