Guest guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Hi guys- As many of you know, I had my tethered cord release and lumbar fusion Jan 26th. The last 3 nights I have woke up with what feels like my toes are on fire on my left foot. It's only half of the big toe and the first 3 toes. It seriously feels like someone poured gas on them and lit them on fire. I am sure it's nerve related. Did anyone else have this problem when their nerves were readjusting after surgery? I just pray it subsides....It hurts soooooo bad!! It's only when I am laying down at night in bed. Please tell me???? Thanks, Traci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Traci, I hope that the neuropathy in your toes has calmed down since your post. After my second and third surgeries, my neuropathy went through the roof. When I was IP, I couldn't stand for even a sheet to touch my legs, especially my feet. The neuropathy has never gone away. But even today, the neuropathy is worse in my left leg. The burning is strongest in my toes and gets a little (a mean little) better as you go north. By the time you get to my knees, its not too bad. It is gone by mid-thigh (which is where my sensation returns). I wrote this in a recent email about someone else who had a recent surgery - MDs and research says that it can take up to a year to find out what you're going to be left with (function, pain, spasticity, etc). That is not a definite time (some people will stabilize before and others long after). So, don't worry about whether x or y is going to be permanent right now. Just focus on PT and helping your body heal. In the meantime, see your MD about finding a med that can help manage the pain while you heal. There are heaps of different meds that can help alleviate neuropathy. Unfortunately, it's a matter of trial and error to find the one that will work for you. And it can take a LONG time to find it, so you need to be patient. The reason it takes so long to find the right med is that most meds used for neuropathy are ones where the dose must be increased gradually up to the therapeutic dose. Often, you won't experience relief until you make it to the therapeutic dose. Then, if the med is not the right one, most cannot be stopped cold turkey. As they require tapering up, they require tapering off. It can take a full month to test one med (2 weeks up and 2 weeks down). Not all have long taper periods and some none at all (but I honestly can't think of any right now that you don't have to taper the dose). Another thing to keep in mind with these meds is that none of them are perfect. First, it is rare to find one that will eliminate the pain. Its all about management. Even the best med I took just kept my neuropathy down to a dull roar. Second, they all have a variety of ugly side effects. It can be a tedious process to find the one that provide the best pain mgmt with the least amount of side effects. I'm sure this process sounds kind of grim. But its trial and error and patience (of which I have little, as does anyone who has been in pain for any length of time and wants/needs relief). You just have to stick with it. Over the years I have tried: imiprimine, Depakote, Tegretol, Tompamax, Keppra, neurontin, Cymbalta. and I'm sure I'm missing one or two others. You may not need them forever - you may just need them for a period of time while your body heals and the nerves recover from the stress of the surgery. I took Tegretol (carbamepazine) after my second surgery. I started on it while I was still IP. But was able to come off of it after a few months. Hang in there and hopefully things will get better. Communication with your MD is very important. Jenn From: tetheredspinalcord [mailto:tetheredspinalcord ] On Behalf Of Traci Pelchat Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:34 AM To: tethered cord group Subject: RE: OH MY GOSH...MY TOES!!! Hi guys- As many of you know, I had my tethered cord release and lumbar fusion Jan 26th. The last 3 nights I have woke up with what feels like my toes are on fire on my left foot. It's only half of the big toe and the first 3 toes. It seriously feels like someone poured gas on them and lit them on fire. I am sure it's nerve related. Did anyone else have this problem when their nerves were readjusting after surgery? I just pray it subsides....It hurts soooooo bad!! It's only when I am laying down at night in bed. Please tell me???? Thanks, Traci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Thanks Jenn for the kind words. I will keep you posted. The nerve pain is getting better, but I am having my horrible tremors/seizures at the back of my head worse--- it's scary, feel like I am going to have a full blown seizure. Don't want to take pain meds, but they seem to be the only thing that helps me be able to tolerate the day, but then when they start to wear off....I get more tremors/seizury activity at the back of my head. I wrote the neurosurgeon, so we'll see what he thinks. I would be up for a trying an antiseizure med if it meant I could function normal and work fulltime. We'll see. How are you doing? ________________________________ To: tetheredspinalcord Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:42:09 AM Subject: RE: RE: OH MY GOSH...MY TOES!!! Traci, I hope that the neuropathy in your toes has calmed down since your post. After my second and third surgeries, my neuropathy went through the roof. When I was IP, I couldn't stand for even a sheet to touch my legs, especially my feet. The neuropathy has never gone away. But even today, the neuropathy is worse in my left leg. The burning is strongest in my toes and gets a little (a mean little) better as you go north. By the time you get to my knees, its not too bad. It is gone by mid-thigh (which is where my sensation returns). I wrote this in a recent email about someone else who had a recent surgery - MDs and research says that it can take up to a year to find out what you're going to be left with (function, pain, spasticity, etc). That is not a definite time (some people will stabilize before and others long after). So, don't worry about whether x or y is going to be permanent right now. Just focus on PT and helping your body heal. In the meantime, see your MD about finding a med that can help manage the pain while you heal. There are heaps of different meds that can help alleviate neuropathy. Unfortunately, it's a matter of trial and error to find the one that will work for you. And it can take a LONG time to find it, so you need to be patient. The reason it takes so long to find the right med is that most meds used for neuropathy are ones where the dose must be increased gradually up to the therapeutic dose. Often, you won't experience relief until you make it to the therapeutic dose. Then, if the med is not the right one, most cannot be stopped cold turkey. As they require tapering up, they require tapering off. It can take a full month to test one med (2 weeks up and 2 weeks down). Not all have long taper periods and some none at all (but I honestly can't think of any right now that you don't have to taper the dose). Another thing to keep in mind with these meds is that none of them are perfect. First, it is rare to find one that will eliminate the pain. Its all about management. Even the best med I took just kept my neuropathy down to a dull roar. Second, they all have a variety of ugly side effects. It can be a tedious process to find the one that provide the best pain mgmt with the least amount of side effects. I'm sure this process sounds kind of grim. But its trial and error and patience (of which I have little, as does anyone who has been in pain for any length of time and wants/needs relief). You just have to stick with it. Over the years I have tried: imiprimine, Depakote, Tegretol, Tompamax, Keppra, neurontin, Cymbalta. and I'm sure I'm missing one or two others. You may not need them forever - you may just need them for a period of time while your body heals and the nerves recover from the stress of the surgery. I took Tegretol (carbamepazine) after my second surgery. I started on it while I was still IP. But was able to come off of it after a few months. Hang in there and hopefully things will get better. Communication with your MD is very important. Jenn From: tetheredspinalcord@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:tetheredspinalcord@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Traci Pelchat Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:34 AM To: tethered cord group Subject: RE: OH MY GOSH...MY TOES!!! Hi guys- As many of you know, I had my tethered cord release and lumbar fusion Jan 26th. The last 3 nights I have woke up with what feels like my toes are on fire on my left foot. It's only half of the big toe and the first 3 toes. It seriously feels like someone poured gas on them and lit them on fire. I am sure it's nerve related. Did anyone else have this problem when their nerves were readjusting after surgery? I just pray it subsides.... It hurts soooooo bad!! It's only when I am laying down at night in bed. Please tell me???? Thanks, Traci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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