Re: Something I found interesting - off topic

April 16, 2007

Dear Leonie,

Yes, I have seen this before and it is a wonderful story and

demonstrates the power of The Work, the power of the realization that

the problem is not in your brother, but in you own uninvestigated

thinking. The good Dr. sat in his office and practised the Turn

Arounds or in other words, " true forgiveness " .

says: " If I think my brother has a problem, I am insane. " And

the Course In Miracles says " Change your mind and change your world. "

Steve D.

> >

> > I completely believe this to be true. It's the same as what

> Renard is teaching...that EVERYTHING out there is my own projection

and I

> made it up. What I see is a product of my own mind. He says too

that the

> only way to heal it is to love and forgive the part of my mind that

created

> it. So, the " I love you " and " I'm sorry " is for healing the

contents of

> one's mind, hence, heal the cause of the projection. The images I

see are

> coming from a projector hidden in my unconscious mind. The

projector is

> where we can change what appears to be out there. To undo it.

There is no

> world. How we see others is how we see ourselves because they're

not there!

> says that the reason we even make up the projection in the

first place

> is because of unconscious guilt(ego) and the practice of sending

love and

> forgiveness heals the unconscious guilt(ego) so that eventually, we

won't

> have a need to create any more projections. There is no one and

nothing out

> there, ever! That's why he named his book, The Disappearance of the

> Universe.

> > What I see is all being projected from one part of my mind

and being

> viewed from a separate part of my mind which thinks it's real.

> > I can tell you that I have been actively practicing this in

my own

> life and absolutely KNOW without a doubt that it works. I try to

identify

> the cause (my own mind), love and forgive my own projections

because they

> are not real and replace it with oneness. There is nothing out

> there...NOTHING. I made up everything that causes me the slightest

bit of

> irritation in any way. In fact, I don't even consider this a

radical idea

> anymore. Deepak Chopra talks about it too. We project our own

reality and

> the only way out of it is to heal the cause (my mind) , not the

effect (the

> world). We definitely create the separation because on the quantum

level,

> there is only oneness.

> > Anyway, I could go on and on, but wanted to thank you for

sending it

> and tell you that I TOTALLY support this viewpoint and practice it

daily.

> It's more real than this optical delusion we've created!

> >

> > Here is what my friend Tommy Koenig had to say (founder of The

Comic's

> Studio in Manhattan if anyone likes to laugh)!! Here's his response

> entitled, It Works!

> >

> > I was fascinated by that Hawaiian doctor you told me about and

decided to

> apply it when I was disturbed. I was in the park and a baby was

screaming

> crying, really hard to take. But instead of getting upset, I

said " I'm

> sorry. I love you " and it stopped. Same on the bus with loud

cellphone

> talker, and again with drilling in my neighborhood when I tried to

take a

> nap. I find myself now repeating those words over and over in

relation to

> > anything that disturbs me or saddens me and it shifts the focus

so the

> perception I'm projecting changes.

> >

> > Renard's book, The Disappearance of the Universe is a

commentary on

> the tome A Course In Miracles. It's no coincidence that all three

of the

> members of this group connected them to the Hawaiian practice in

the story.

> Tommy adds:

> >

> > If you think about it the two sentences " I'm sorry " and " I love

You "

> succinctly sum up the principles of A Course In Miracles. By

saying " I'm

> sorry " I not only take responsibility for the creation of what I

perceive

> but by apologizing to the image, am asking for forgiveness and

forgiving

> them/it for what they/it hasn't done at the same time. And The " I

love you "

> is obvious. Forgiveness leads to Love and if you love what you are

seeing it

> is all completing the circle of at-one-ment.

> >

> > And Finally, this is from Renard, the author of The

Disappearance of

> the Universe. Sylvia passed this one on as well!

> >

> > " It's not how other people look at you that will determine your

> experience of yourself, it's how you look at them that will

determine your

> experience of yourself. " ( Renard)

> >

> > I had a breakthrough around October of last year- when all of a

sudden I

> found I could get up in front of crowds of people and speak and not

be

> nervous.

> >

> > My comfort with public speaking didn't come from speaking over

and over

> again; it came from forgiving speaking over and over again. There

is just

> freedom in that.

> >

> > First of all forgiveness is done silently-it's something that's

done in

> the mind. You don't walk up to people and say I'm forgiving you-

that would

> make them really angry. It is done at the level of Cause, which is

the

> mind, not at the level of the world, which is Effect. That is

important

> because it means you can live a normal life, doing everything you

would have

> done anyway. " Seek not to change the world, seek rather to change

your mind

> of the world. " So what it's about is having a different perception

of

> things; looking at things with right minded ideas with your whole

spirit

> (Holy Spirit) instead of with wrong minded ideas with the ego. You

don't

> have to give up anything-what you're doing is forgiving as you go,

so to

> speak. You go into life living it and forgiving it at the same

time.

> >

> > And as you remove those blocks you practice forgiveness which is

the

> equivalent of Buddhism's idea of undoing the ego. As you do more

and more

> of that what you gain access to is what you really are-which is

love.

> >

> > So we don't have to struggle to be what we are-we are love-what

we need to

> do is to remove the blocks that we place between ourselves and our

> experience of our perfection. And it's through this kind of

forgiveness that

> the blocks are removed and the ego is undone.

> >

> > * * * * *

> >

> > If you find all these juicy concepts eye-opening, read the book

> Disappearance of the Universe and study A Course In Miracles. I

often

> recommend Joe VItale's book The Attractor Factor if you're looking

for

> inspiration, it will surely put a fire in your heart. My book

Psychic

> Living is a perfect compliment to it, as my exercises are a great

way to put

> this information into practice on a daily basis.

> >

> > So today I end the newsletter with the wonderful Hindu traditional

> greeting, Namaste, the God in Me honors the God in You. (Or, in

keeping

> with this newsletter, maybe I'm just talking to myself!!)

> >

> > I love hearing from you, please let me know your thoughts!

> >

> > Namaste!

> >

> > Stacey

> > staceywolf.com

> >

> > -----------------------------------------------------------

> >

April 16, 2007

Leonie ~

Thanks for sending this. At first glance, I brushed it off impatiently and

didnt bother to read it ~ this morning my mind saw it differently and took the

time to sit and read it. There is much here to ponder (and I may not bother!).

Actually, I loved reading it. The one area that didnt sit well with me was the

idea of my thoughts healing someone else in the sense that, it is our own

attachment to our thoughts that creates a problem and our behaviour stems from

our own thoughts, nothing else. I see that if I believe that what you are doing

is wrong (behaving in a way that we call criminally insane in this case) then I

can question that story and see it as the lie that it is. You are healed in the

moment that I realise that how ever you show up in this moment is perfect for

you, there is nothing out of order here, including the people who are behaving

in ways that I label criminal. When I understand this, then in my world, you

are healed right now, exactly how you

are, and you do not ever have to change for that to be true. If the order of

creation is : Think, Feel, Act, Have the only thing that will change the

behaviour of a criminally insane person is if they stop beleive their OWN

thoughts. My thinking about you does not change YOU, it changes My perception

of you, and I see that you are perfect exactly as you show up no matter how that

looks ~ peaceful, greeting me with Namaste, or coming at me with a butcher

knife.....

Thanks for giving me the oportunity to take a closer look at this whole

subject...

C.

Steve Daily wrote:

Dear Leonie,

Yes, I have seen this before and it is a wonderful story and

demonstrates the power of The Work, the power of the realization that

the problem is not in your brother, but in you own uninvestigated

thinking. The good Dr. sat in his office and practised the Turn

Arounds or in other words, " true forgiveness " .

says: " If I think my brother has a problem, I am insane. " And

the Course In Miracles says " Change your mind and change your world. "

Steve D.

> >

> > I completely believe this to be true. It's the same as what

> Renard is teaching...that EVERYTHING out there is my own projection

and I

> made it up. What I see is a product of my own mind. He says too

that the

> only way to heal it is to love and forgive the part of my mind that

created

> it. So, the " I love you " and " I'm sorry " is for healing the

contents of

> one's mind, hence, heal the cause of the projection. The images I

see are

> coming from a projector hidden in my unconscious mind. The

projector is

> where we can change what appears to be out there. To undo it.

There is no

> world. How we see others is how we see ourselves because they're

not there!

> says that the reason we even make up the projection in the

first place

> is because of unconscious guilt(ego) and the practice of sending

love and

> forgiveness heals the unconscious guilt(ego) so that eventually, we

won't

> have a need to create any more projections. There is no one and

nothing out

> there, ever! That's why he named his book, The Disappearance of the

> Universe.

> > What I see is all being projected from one part of my mind

and being

> viewed from a separate part of my mind which thinks it's real.

> > I can tell you that I have been actively practicing this in

my own

> life and absolutely KNOW without a doubt that it works. I try to

identify

> the cause (my own mind), love and forgive my own projections

because they

> are not real and replace it with oneness. There is nothing out

> there...NOTHING. I made up everything that causes me the slightest

bit of

> irritation in any way. In fact, I don't even consider this a

radical idea

> anymore. Deepak Chopra talks about it too. We project our own

reality and

> the only way out of it is to heal the cause (my mind) , not the

effect (the

> world). We definitely create the separation because on the quantum

level,

> there is only oneness.

> > Anyway, I could go on and on, but wanted to thank you for

sending it

> and tell you that I TOTALLY support this viewpoint and practice it

daily.

> It's more real than this optical delusion we've created!

> >

> > Here is what my friend Tommy Koenig had to say (founder of The

Comic's

> Studio in Manhattan if anyone likes to laugh)!! Here's his response

> entitled, It Works!

> >

> > I was fascinated by that Hawaiian doctor you told me about and

decided to

> apply it when I was disturbed. I was in the park and a baby was

screaming

> crying, really hard to take. But instead of getting upset, I

said " I'm

> sorry. I love you " and it stopped. Same on the bus with loud

cellphone

> talker, and again with drilling in my neighborhood when I tried to

take a

> nap. I find myself now repeating those words over and over in

relation to

> > anything that disturbs me or saddens me and it shifts the focus

so the

> perception I'm projecting changes.

> >

> > Renard's book, The Disappearance of the Universe is a

commentary on

> the tome A Course In Miracles. It's no coincidence that all three

of the

> members of this group connected them to the Hawaiian practice in

the story.

> Tommy adds:

> >

> > If you think about it the two sentences " I'm sorry " and " I love

You "

> succinctly sum up the principles of A Course In Miracles. By

saying " I'm

> sorry " I not only take responsibility for the creation of what I

perceive

> but by apologizing to the image, am asking for forgiveness and

forgiving

> them/it for what they/it hasn't done at the same time. And The " I

love you "

> is obvious. Forgiveness leads to Love and if you love what you are

seeing it

> is all completing the circle of at-one-ment.

> >

> > And Finally, this is from Renard, the author of The

Disappearance of

> the Universe. Sylvia passed this one on as well!

> >

> > " It's not how other people look at you that will determine your

> experience of yourself, it's how you look at them that will

determine your

> experience of yourself. " ( Renard)

> >

> > I had a breakthrough around October of last year- when all of a

sudden I

> found I could get up in front of crowds of people and speak and not

be

> nervous.

> >

> > My comfort with public speaking didn't come from speaking over

and over

> again; it came from forgiving speaking over and over again. There

is just

> freedom in that.

> >

> > First of all forgiveness is done silently-it's something that's

done in

> the mind. You don't walk up to people and say I'm forgiving you-

that would

> make them really angry. It is done at the level of Cause, which is

the

> mind, not at the level of the world, which is Effect. That is

important

> because it means you can live a normal life, doing everything you

would have

> done anyway. " Seek not to change the world, seek rather to change

your mind

> of the world. " So what it's about is having a different perception

of

> things; looking at things with right minded ideas with your whole

spirit

> (Holy Spirit) instead of with wrong minded ideas with the ego. You

don't

> have to give up anything-what you're doing is forgiving as you go,

so to

> speak. You go into life living it and forgiving it at the same

time.

> >

> > And as you remove those blocks you practice forgiveness which is

the

> equivalent of Buddhism's idea of undoing the ego. As you do more

and more

> of that what you gain access to is what you really are-which is

love.

> >

> > So we don't have to struggle to be what we are-we are love-what

we need to

> do is to remove the blocks that we place between ourselves and our

> experience of our perfection. And it's through this kind of

forgiveness that

> the blocks are removed and the ego is undone.

> >

> > * * * * *

> >

> > If you find all these juicy concepts eye-opening, read the book

> Disappearance of the Universe and study A Course In Miracles. I

often

> recommend Joe VItale's book The Attractor Factor if you're looking

for

> inspiration, it will surely put a fire in your heart. My book

Psychic

> Living is a perfect compliment to it, as my exercises are a great

way to put

> this information into practice on a daily basis.

> >

> > So today I end the newsletter with the wonderful Hindu traditional

> greeting, Namaste, the God in Me honors the God in You. (Or, in

keeping

> with this newsletter, maybe I'm just talking to myself!!)

> >

> > I love hearing from you, please let me know your thoughts!

> >

> > Namaste!

> >

> > Stacey

> > staceywolf.com

> >

> > ----------------------------------------------------------

> >

April 16, 2007

Dear C.

You said:

" If the order of creation is : Think, Feel, Act, Have the only thing

that will change the behaviour of a criminally insane person is if

they stop beleive their OWN thoughts. "

I would take that statement to inquiry and find out where the

criminally insane person truly exists, otherwise, I might be mislead

or deceived..

Steve D.

> > >

> > > I completely believe this to be true. It's the same as what

>

> > Renard is teaching...that EVERYTHING out there is my own

projection

> and I

> > made it up. What I see is a product of my own mind. He says too

> that the

> > only way to heal it is to love and forgive the part of my mind

that

> created

> > it. So, the " I love you " and " I'm sorry " is for healing the

> contents of

> > one's mind, hence, heal the cause of the projection. The images I

> see are

> > coming from a projector hidden in my unconscious mind. The

> projector is

> > where we can change what appears to be out there. To undo it.

> There is no

> > world. How we see others is how we see ourselves because they're

> not there!

> > says that the reason we even make up the projection in the

> first place

> > is because of unconscious guilt(ego) and the practice of sending

> love and

> > forgiveness heals the unconscious guilt(ego) so that eventually,

we

> won't

> > have a need to create any more projections. There is no one and

> nothing out

> > there, ever! That's why he named his book, The Disappearance of

the

> > Universe.

> > > What I see is all being projected from one part of my mind

> and being

> > viewed from a separate part of my mind which thinks it's real.

> > > I can tell you that I have been actively practicing this in

> my own

> > life and absolutely KNOW without a doubt that it works. I try to

> identify

> > the cause (my own mind), love and forgive my own projections

> because they

> > are not real and replace it with oneness. There is nothing out

> > there...NOTHING. I made up everything that causes me the

slightest

> bit of

> > irritation in any way. In fact, I don't even consider this a

> radical idea

> > anymore. Deepak Chopra talks about it too. We project our own

> reality and

> > the only way out of it is to heal the cause (my mind) , not the

> effect (the

> > world). We definitely create the separation because on the

quantum

> level,

> > there is only oneness.

> > > Anyway, I could go on and on, but wanted to thank you for

> sending it

> > and tell you that I TOTALLY support this viewpoint and practice

it

> daily.

> > It's more real than this optical delusion we've created!

> > >

> > > Here is what my friend Tommy Koenig had to say (founder of The

> Comic's

> > Studio in Manhattan if anyone likes to laugh)!! Here's his

response

> > entitled, It Works!

> > >

> > > I was fascinated by that Hawaiian doctor you told me about and

> decided to

> > apply it when I was disturbed. I was in the park and a baby was

> screaming

> > crying, really hard to take. But instead of getting upset, I

> said " I'm

> > sorry. I love you " and it stopped. Same on the bus with loud

> cellphone

> > talker, and again with drilling in my neighborhood when I tried

to

> take a

> > nap. I find myself now repeating those words over and over in

> relation to

> > > anything that disturbs me or saddens me and it shifts the focus

> so the

> > perception I'm projecting changes.

> > >

> > > Renard's book, The Disappearance of the Universe is a

> commentary on

> > the tome A Course In Miracles. It's no coincidence that all three

> of the

> > members of this group connected them to the Hawaiian practice in

> the story.

> > Tommy adds:

> > >

> > > If you think about it the two sentences " I'm sorry " and " I

love

> You "

> > succinctly sum up the principles of A Course In Miracles. By

> saying " I'm

> > sorry " I not only take responsibility for the creation of what I

> perceive

> > but by apologizing to the image, am asking for forgiveness and

> forgiving

> > them/it for what they/it hasn't done at the same time. And The " I

> love you "

> > is obvious. Forgiveness leads to Love and if you love what you

are

> seeing it

> > is all completing the circle of at-one-ment.

> > >

> > > And Finally, this is from Renard, the author of The

> Disappearance of

> > the Universe. Sylvia passed this one on as well!

> > >

> > > " It's not how other people look at you that will determine your

> > experience of yourself, it's how you look at them that will

> determine your

> > experience of yourself. " ( Renard)

> > >

> > > I had a breakthrough around October of last year- when all of a

> sudden I

> > found I could get up in front of crowds of people and speak and

not

> be

> > nervous.

> > >

> > > My comfort with public speaking didn't come from speaking over

> and over

> > again; it came from forgiving speaking over and over again. There

> is just

> > freedom in that.

> > >

> > > First of all forgiveness is done silently-it's something that's

> done in

> > the mind. You don't walk up to people and say I'm forgiving you-

> that would

> > make them really angry. It is done at the level of Cause, which

is

> the

> > mind, not at the level of the world, which is Effect. That is

> important

> > because it means you can live a normal life, doing everything you

> would have

> > done anyway. " Seek not to change the world, seek rather to change

> your mind

> > of the world. " So what it's about is having a different

perception

> of

> > things; looking at things with right minded ideas with your whole

> spirit

> > (Holy Spirit) instead of with wrong minded ideas with the ego.

You

> don't

> > have to give up anything-what you're doing is forgiving as you

go,

> so to

> > speak. You go into life living it and forgiving it at the same

> time.

> > >

> > > And as you remove those blocks you practice forgiveness which

is

> the

> > equivalent of Buddhism's idea of undoing the ego. As you do more

> and more

> > of that what you gain access to is what you really are-which is

> love.

> > >

> > > So we don't have to struggle to be what we are-we are love-what

> we need to

> > do is to remove the blocks that we place between ourselves and our

> > experience of our perfection. And it's through this kind of

> forgiveness that

> > the blocks are removed and the ego is undone.

> > >

> > > * * * * *

> > >

> > > If you find all these juicy concepts eye-opening, read the book

> > Disappearance of the Universe and study A Course In Miracles. I

> often

> > recommend Joe VItale's book The Attractor Factor if you're

looking

> for

> > inspiration, it will surely put a fire in your heart. My book

> Psychic

> > Living is a perfect compliment to it, as my exercises are a great

> way to put

> > this information into practice on a daily basis.

> > >

> > > So today I end the newsletter with the wonderful Hindu

traditional

> > greeting, Namaste, the God in Me honors the God in You. (Or, in

> keeping

> > with this newsletter, maybe I'm just talking to myself!!)

> > >

> > > I love hearing from you, please let me know your thoughts!

> > >

> > > Namaste!

> > >

> > > Stacey

> > > staceywolf.com

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > >

April 16, 2007

Dear C.

>

> You said:

> " If the order of creation is : Think, Feel, Act, Have the only thing

> that will change the behaviour of a criminally insane person is if

> they stop beleive their OWN thoughts. "

>

> I would take that statement to inquiry and find out where the

> criminally insane person truly exists, otherwise, I might be mislead

> or deceived..

Can't wait to see how you take this statement to inquiry, Steve.

nne

April 16, 2007

yes steve,

i agree (i think? :-) ). i see the label 'criminally insane' is my

story. i tried to express that by saying that when i inquire is see that label

as the 'lie' that it is. i still see 'other'...i am not at a place where

nothing exists except in my mind. i am, though, starting to see that my

interpretation of what i see is nothing more than my mind projected outwards. or

something like that.

Cheers,

C.

Steve Daily wrote:

Dear C.

You said:

" If the order of creation is : Think, Feel, Act, Have the only thing

that will change the behaviour of a criminally insane person is if

they stop beleive their OWN thoughts. "

I would take that statement to inquiry and find out where the

criminally insane person truly exists, otherwise, I might be mislead

or deceived..

Steve D.

> > >

> > > I completely believe this to be true. It's the same as what

>

> > Renard is teaching...that EVERYTHING out there is my own

projection

> and I

> > made it up. What I see is a product of my own mind. He says too

> that the

> > only way to heal it is to love and forgive the part of my mind

that

> created

> > it. So, the " I love you " and " I'm sorry " is for healing the

> contents of

> > one's mind, hence, heal the cause of the projection. The images I

> see are

> > coming from a projector hidden in my unconscious mind. The

> projector is

> > where we can change what appears to be out there. To undo it.

> There is no

> > world. How we see others is how we see ourselves because they're

> not there!

> > says that the reason we even make up the projection in the

> first place

> > is because of unconscious guilt(ego) and the practice of sending

> love and

> > forgiveness heals the unconscious guilt(ego) so that eventually,

we

> won't

> > have a need to create any more projections. There is no one and

> nothing out

> > there, ever! That's why he named his book, The Disappearance of

the

> > Universe.

> > > What I see is all being projected from one part of my mind

> and being

> > viewed from a separate part of my mind which thinks it's real.

> > > I can tell you that I have been actively practicing this in

> my own

> > life and absolutely KNOW without a doubt that it works. I try to

> identify

> > the cause (my own mind), love and forgive my own projections

> because they

> > are not real and replace it with oneness. There is nothing out

> > there...NOTHING. I made up everything that causes me the

slightest

> bit of

> > irritation in any way. In fact, I don't even consider this a

> radical idea

> > anymore. Deepak Chopra talks about it too. We project our own

> reality and

> > the only way out of it is to heal the cause (my mind) , not the

> effect (the

> > world). We definitely create the separation because on the

quantum

> level,

> > there is only oneness.

> > > Anyway, I could go on and on, but wanted to thank you for

> sending it

> > and tell you that I TOTALLY support this viewpoint and practice

it

> daily.

> > It's more real than this optical delusion we've created!

> > >

> > > Here is what my friend Tommy Koenig had to say (founder of The

> Comic's

> > Studio in Manhattan if anyone likes to laugh)!! Here's his

response

> > entitled, It Works!

> > >

> > > I was fascinated by that Hawaiian doctor you told me about and

> decided to

> > apply it when I was disturbed. I was in the park and a baby was

> screaming

> > crying, really hard to take. But instead of getting upset, I

> said " I'm

> > sorry. I love you " and it stopped. Same on the bus with loud

> cellphone

> > talker, and again with drilling in my neighborhood when I tried

to

> take a

> > nap. I find myself now repeating those words over and over in

> relation to

> > > anything that disturbs me or saddens me and it shifts the focus

> so the

> > perception I'm projecting changes.

> > >

> > > Renard's book, The Disappearance of the Universe is a

> commentary on

> > the tome A Course In Miracles. It's no coincidence that all three

> of the

> > members of this group connected them to the Hawaiian practice in

> the story.

> > Tommy adds:

> > >

> > > If you think about it the two sentences " I'm sorry " and " I

love

> You "

> > succinctly sum up the principles of A Course In Miracles. By

> saying " I'm

> > sorry " I not only take responsibility for the creation of what I

> perceive

> > but by apologizing to the image, am asking for forgiveness and

> forgiving

> > them/it for what they/it hasn't done at the same time. And The " I

> love you "

> > is obvious. Forgiveness leads to Love and if you love what you

are

> seeing it

> > is all completing the circle of at-one-ment.

> > >

> > > And Finally, this is from Renard, the author of The

> Disappearance of

> > the Universe. Sylvia passed this one on as well!

> > >

> > > " It's not how other people look at you that will determine your

> > experience of yourself, it's how you look at them that will

> determine your

> > experience of yourself. " ( Renard)

> > >

> > > I had a breakthrough around October of last year- when all of a

> sudden I

> > found I could get up in front of crowds of people and speak and

not

> be

> > nervous.

> > >

> > > My comfort with public speaking didn't come from speaking over

> and over

> > again; it came from forgiving speaking over and over again. There

> is just

> > freedom in that.

> > >

> > > First of all forgiveness is done silently-it's something that's

> done in

> > the mind. You don't walk up to people and say I'm forgiving you-

> that would

> > make them really angry. It is done at the level of Cause, which

is

> the

> > mind, not at the level of the world, which is Effect. That is

> important

> > because it means you can live a normal life, doing everything you

> would have

> > done anyway. " Seek not to change the world, seek rather to change

> your mind

> > of the world. " So what it's about is having a different

perception

> of

> > things; looking at things with right minded ideas with your whole

> spirit

> > (Holy Spirit) instead of with wrong minded ideas with the ego.

You

> don't

> > have to give up anything-what you're doing is forgiving as you

go,

> so to

> > speak. You go into life living it and forgiving it at the same

> time.

> > >

> > > And as you remove those blocks you practice forgiveness which

is

> the

> > equivalent of Buddhism's idea of undoing the ego. As you do more

> and more

> > of that what you gain access to is what you really are-which is

> love.

> > >

> > > So we don't have to struggle to be what we are-we are love-what

> we need to

> > do is to remove the blocks that we place between ourselves and our

> > experience of our perfection. And it's through this kind of

> forgiveness that

> > the blocks are removed and the ego is undone.

> > >

> > > * * * * *

> > >

> > > If you find all these juicy concepts eye-opening, read the book

> > Disappearance of the Universe and study A Course In Miracles. I

> often

> > recommend Joe VItale's book The Attractor Factor if you're

looking

> for

> > inspiration, it will surely put a fire in your heart. My book

> Psychic

> > Living is a perfect compliment to it, as my exercises are a great

> way to put

> > this information into practice on a daily basis.

> > >

> > > So today I end the newsletter with the wonderful Hindu

traditional

> > greeting, Namaste, the God in Me honors the God in You. (Or, in

> keeping

> > with this newsletter, maybe I'm just talking to myself!!)

> > >

> > > I love hearing from you, please let me know your thoughts!

> > >

> > > Namaste!

> > >

> > > Stacey

> > > staceywolf.com

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > >

April 16, 2007

nne,

Just for you MW, I will give it a shot:

" The only thing that will change the behaviour of a criminally insane

person is if they stop believing their OWN thoughts. "

Is it true?

Well, it appears to be.

Can I really know that that is true?

No, I can not.

How do I feel when I believe that thought?

I feel powerless, hopeless and helpless.

Can I see a reason to drop this thought?

Uh, yes I can.

Can I see a peaceful reason to keep this thought?

No, I can not.

Who would I be without this belief?

I would be open to the possibility that there are other things that

might change the behavior of the criminally insane.

TA: The only thing that will change the behaviour of a criminally

insane person is if I stop believing my OWN thoughts. "

That sounds as true or truer than the original statement.

>

> Dear C.

> >

> > You said:

> > " If the order of creation is : Think, Feel, Act, Have the only

thing

> > that will change the behaviour of a criminally insane person is if

> > they stop beleive their OWN thoughts. "

> >

> > I would take that statement to inquiry and find out where the

> > criminally insane person truly exists, otherwise, I might be

mislead

> > or deceived..

>

> Can't wait to see how you take this statement to inquiry, Steve.

>

> nne

>

April 16, 2007

Sweet Work.

What are your own thoughts about the criminally insane that you need

to stop believing?

I can find this one just now~

I need to be protected from them.

nne

> nne,

>

> Just for you MW, I will give it a shot:

>

> " The only thing that will change the behaviour of a criminally

insane

> person is if they stop believing their OWN thoughts. "

>

> Is it true?

> Well, it appears to be.

> Can I really know that that is true?

> No, I can not.

> How do I feel when I believe that thought?

> I feel powerless, hopeless and helpless.

> Can I see a reason to drop this thought?

> Uh, yes I can.

> Can I see a peaceful reason to keep this thought?

> No, I can not.

> Who would I be without this belief?

> I would be open to the possibility that there are other things

that

> might change the behavior of the criminally insane.

> TA: The only thing that will change the behaviour of a criminally

> insane person is if I stop believing my OWN thoughts. "

> That sounds as true or truer than the original statement.

>

April 16, 2007

for me, the underlying belief here would be that " I " need to change someone

'else's " behaviour. if I had that belief, i would question it, as that is what

i see as hopeless.

Steve Daily wrote: nne,

Just for you MW, I will give it a shot:

" The only thing that will change the behaviour of a criminally insane

person is if they stop believing their OWN thoughts. "

Is it true?

Well, it appears to be.

Can I really know that that is true?

No, I can not.

How do I feel when I believe that thought?

I feel powerless, hopeless and helpless.

Can I see a reason to drop this thought?

Uh, yes I can.

Can I see a peaceful reason to keep this thought?

No, I can not.

Who would I be without this belief?

I would be open to the possibility that there are other things that

might change the behavior of the criminally insane.

TA: The only thing that will change the behaviour of a criminally

insane person is if I stop believing my OWN thoughts. "

That sounds as true or truer than the original statement.

>

> Dear C.

> >

> > You said:

> > " If the order of creation is : Think, Feel, Act, Have the only

thing

> > that will change the behaviour of a criminally insane person is if

> > they stop beleive their OWN thoughts. "

> >

> > I would take that statement to inquiry and find out where the

> > criminally insane person truly exists, otherwise, I might be

mislead

> > or deceived..

>

> Can't wait to see how you take this statement to inquiry, Steve.

>

> nne

>

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i can find:

they will hurt me

they can't be trusted

they are dangerous

they need to be controlled

without these thoughts, i see that no one's behaviour needs to change, and i

certainly don't need to be the one in control of changing it!! as if that were

possible!

nne wrote:

Sweet Work.

What are your own thoughts about the criminally insane that you need

to stop believing?

I can find this one just now~

I need to be protected from them.

nne

> nne,

>

> Just for you MW, I will give it a shot:

>

> " The only thing that will change the behaviour of a criminally

insane

> person is if they stop believing their OWN thoughts. "

>

> Is it true?

> Well, it appears to be.

> Can I really know that that is true?

> No, I can not.

> How do I feel when I believe that thought?

> I feel powerless, hopeless and helpless.

> Can I see a reason to drop this thought?

> Uh, yes I can.

> Can I see a peaceful reason to keep this thought?

> No, I can not.

> Who would I be without this belief?

> I would be open to the possibility that there are other things

that

> might change the behavior of the criminally insane.

> TA: The only thing that will change the behaviour of a criminally

> insane person is if I stop believing my OWN thoughts. "

> That sounds as true or truer than the original statement.

>

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April 16, 2007

The question that came to mind over and over while reading this was:

Is this really possible?

I don't know.

But I have no reason not to try.

Either way, if I were to build a theory on how this might be truly

work, it would be this... (Yessirree Bob, another story (-

There is a famous and beautiful Celtic symbol called the tree of life.

(See some images of it here:

http://www.kelticdesigns.com/CelticTreeOfLife/CelticTreeCatalog.html)

The tree's roots and branches are the same, connected, emanating

interwoven from the trunk of the tree.

Let's say that the outer branches of the tree is what we see 'out

there' in reality. Each branch represents individual objects. The

roots would be the support system of how life works and, since they

are underground, are outside of our ability to perceive it. But each

branch is connected to a root, and thus connected to that support

system. The trunk represents the how it is all connected to 'one' reality.

At the trunk, at the center, is Reality. Each of us is a branch that

we can perceive. When the 'flow of love' coming up from the roots

reaches us and is allowed to flow unblocked through us, that flow is

sent back down into the roots and the cycle is repeated. Let's say,

however, that we can send that love to another branch. It would have

to go through the root system (where we can't really see or know

what's going on) but we see the results when that love hits that

branch: spontaneous healing.

All of reality is connected at the core. We might perceive ourselves

to be separate and distinct, but follow within and we touch upon the

oneness and how we are all interrelated, interwoven, and

interconnected. It's just that our point of awareness just happens to

reside for the moment on our own particular branch of life giving the

illusion of separation.

Many people believe in the power of prayer. It would work along the

same lines. Instead of an outward display of love, it is sent within -

out of our conscious witnessing - and trusted to emerge where it needs to.

I don't know. But I like it.

Hype

April 16, 2007

>

> nne,

>

> Just for you MW, I will give it a shot:

>

> " The only thing that will change the behaviour of a criminally

> insane person is if they stop believing their OWN thoughts. "

>

Let me give this a shot

Is it true? Yes.

Can I absolutely know that it is true?

No. However from where I am in this dream I know that the ONLY thing

that will change MY behaviour is a change in my THINKING. So I

suspect that this would be true for all other human beings

(criminally insane or not), although I can never be absolutely sure.

has described the order of creation as THINK, FEEL, ACT, HAVE

and so far I have not encountered any evidence from anyone showing

that this is not true.

How do you feel when you believe this thought? Good! We have tried

locking criminally insane people up in prisons, heavily medicating

them, electric shock treatment etc. ... etc. in order to change their

behaviour but nothing appears to work. Maybe the reason that their

behaviour is not changing is because their THINKING is not changing?

Have a beautiful day

" There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

Byron

April 17, 2007

> Yep, the story is an uban legend

>

I don't believe it is. When I heard of this a year or so ago, a

website was given and there was a lot of on-line literature on this

spiritual movement. I often do this techique in meditation when I am

fuming at someone and it certainly does heal me! :-)

> A fundamental premise of the Course in Miralces and 's work

is

> that NOTHING (let me repeat that again: NOTHING) outside of your

MIND

> can effect you.

I know we are responsible for our own mind, unhappiness and

thoughts. There is something deeper than this that mentions in

her latest book and tapes (thanks Marcus). She says that each

stressful belief that you release and let go, saves the future

generations having to do it as well. ACIM alludes to the same thing:

it often says that each time you truly forgive, you release people

already here, people who lived in the past and future generations to

come.

I don't understand what is meant, except that if we are all One

Mind, the freedom of one has to affect all others.

April 17, 2007

Dear Leonie,

i just discovered this thread.

Here is a little suggestion from my end.

Whatever you read, whatever you hear ..., how about just sensing if

you thighten, if you contract or if your heart sings and smiles

instantly. When it inspires you, how do you go on ... ... ...

i would strengthen your trust into to yourself, to listen to your

own inner voice, your own guidance, reading your own outward

reflection (the world).

perhaps you want to be brave and do your own experiments, with

things like for example, " I'm sorry and I love you. "

No book, not the ACIM not 's will ever top your own wisdom.

They can be pointers if your heart responds with a smile, but they m

u s t not be your path (it's not carved into stone). Every single

human being got it's unique own path. Be aware of this. :-)

Thank you for sharing this story with me. I clearly enjoy it.

Love Rose

> OK, so it's an urban myth...I hope everyone can pardon my

naiveté... I'm new to all this stuff.

>

> That anyone else is sick, and could be, or needs to be cured, is

only our perception, right ? I'm getting myself confused now...

where do you draw the line between reality and perception of

reality ? Maybe sick people don't exist at all... maybe nothing

exists !!

>

> If I experience sickness, how can I choose to be healed ? I have

nne on's book on my bookshelf and started reading it

years ago - I must get back into it - it's absolutely fascinating.

Don't know why I didn't finish reading it - it kind of blew my mind

so I had to go off and try and digest it (for ten years)

>

> Leonie

>

> Re: Something I found interesting -

off topic

>

> >

> > >

> > Two years ago, I heard about a therapist in Hawaii who cured a

> > complete ward of criminally insane patients--without ever

seeing

> > any of them. The psychologist would study an inmate's chart

and

> > then look within himself to see how he created that person's

> > illness. As he improved himself, the patient improved.

> > >

> > When I first heard this story, I thought it was an urban

legend.

> > How could anyone heal anyone else by healing himself? How

could

> > even the best self-improvement master cure the criminally

insane?

> > >

>

> Yep, the story is an uban legend

>

> A fundamental premise of the Course in Miralces and 's work

is

> that NOTHING (let me repeat that again: NOTHING) outside of your

MIND

> can effect you. It has to be that way, or our power as the SON

of God

> would be denied. NO ONE cures or can cure ANYONE else, the ONLY

one

> who can cure YOU is YOU. Now you may say but plenty of people

were

> reported as cured in the presence of Jesus and even this well

meaning

> doctor, how do you explain that? People are cured in the

presence of

> someone who is clear like Jesus or , because somewhere in

THEIR

> OWN mind THEY make a choice to heal. It literally has NOTHING to

do

> with Jesus or , they are simply a reminder that another

choice

> could be made, a choice for health instead of sickness. The

choice

> itself is not an ego choice, but a choice of the decision maker

in

> the mind of the Son.

> But honestly don't believe a thing I have said go get a copy of

> the " A Course in Miralces " or " Loving What Is " and educate

yourself.

>

> Have a beautiful day

>

> " There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned

concepts. "

> Byron

>

April 17, 2007

>

> I know we are responsible for our own mind, unhappiness and

> thoughts. There is something deeper than this that mentions

> in her latest book and tapes (thanks Marcus). She says that each

> stressful belief that you release and let go, saves the future

> generations having to do it as well. ACIM alludes to the same

> thing: it often says that each time you truly forgive, you release

> people already here, people who lived in the past and future

> generations to come.

>

> I don't understand what is meant, except that if we are all One

> Mind, the freedom of one has to affect all others.

>

Yes, as Steve pointed out there is in reality only one mind so when

Jesus awoke from the dream 2,000 years ago technically we all were

awakened with him. What remains is for the billions of fragments of

the Sons mind to make the same choice that Jesus did.

The key point for me is that decision for love CANNOT be made by

anyone but ME (the decision maker in the mind). Jesus or cannot

magically enter anyone's mind and make that choice for them. This

explains why 2,000 years after Jesus made the choice for love, the

human race is still killing, ravaging and destroying the planet and

each other as they always have done. The majority of human beings

still prefer to hold onto a separate " I " rather than make a different

choice for love. Another million people like Jesus or could

appear on this planet and it would not make one shred of difference.

The ONLY thing a Jesus or can do is remind us that we can make

another choice. That's it, WE are the ones who ALONE have the power

to make that choice.

The ego, separate " I " always tries to cultivate the belief that

someone or something outside ourselves is needed to save or heal us.

This is why much of the new age thought and the cult of guru's are so

popular. The ego knows that if I make the choice for love it is

history, so it jumps with glee when we look for someone or something

outside us to make a choice that ONLY we can make. The Work like ACIM

is actually very terrifying to the ego, because it makes it clear

that the ONLY person or thing in the universe that can save YOU is

YOU. Only YOU can answer the four questions, only YOU can choose to

listen to the voice of love or the voice of the ego in response to

those questions. The only thing you need to find freedom with the

Work is YOU.

Now contrast that with some new age nonsense about how some doctor

could heal patients by looking at their records and working on his

perception of them. The ONLY person who can heal a patient is the

patient by making a choice for love by THEMSELVES. The ONLY person

who can save the doctor, is the doctor by HIS making another choice

for love. The ego would love you to believe that the doctor had

something to do with the healing, because then your attention is

directed away from the thing that really does the healing i.e. the

patients OWN CHOICE for love.

So in summary let me say that yes, as one mind we are already saved

but each individual fragment of that one mind must still make the

choice for that love. NO ONE and NOTHING outside of the decision

maker can make that choice or effect it in anyway. So get out your

pens and paper and start writing down those stressful thoughts and

inquiring, because the ONLY person or thing that will ever save YOU

is YOU! You CANNOT save or effect ANYONE else, you can ONLY remind

them that they can make another choice for love.

Have a beautiful day

" Meeting your thoughts with inquiry allows you to meet your partner

with understanding. What determines the quality of your relationship

with her is not what you think about her but whether you believe what

you think about her. " Byron

April 18, 2007

Hi LTWOBK,

this message seems to concern other peoples' businesses.

How do you see it?

Eva

>

> Yes, as Steve pointed out there is in reality only one mind so when

> Jesus awoke from the dream 2,000 years ago technically we all were

> awakened with him. What remains is for the billions of fragments of

> the Sons mind to make the same choice that Jesus did.

> The key point for me is that decision for love CANNOT be made by

> anyone but ME (the decision maker in the mind). Jesus or cannot

> magically enter anyone's mind and make that choice for them. This

> explains why 2,000 years after Jesus made the choice for love, the

> human race is still killing, ravaging and destroying the planet and

> each other as they always have done. The majority of human beings

> still prefer to hold onto a separate " I " rather than make a different

> choice for love. Another million people like Jesus or could

> appear on this planet and it would not make one shred of difference.

> The ONLY thing a Jesus or can do is remind us that we can make

> another choice. That's it, WE are the ones who ALONE have the power

> to make that choice.

> The ego, separate " I " always tries to cultivate the belief that

> someone or something outside ourselves is needed to save or heal us.

> This is why much of the new age thought and the cult of guru's are so

> popular. The ego knows that if I make the choice for love it is

> history, so it jumps with glee when we look for someone or something

> outside us to make a choice that ONLY we can make. The Work like ACIM

> is actually very terrifying to the ego, because it makes it clear

> that the ONLY person or thing in the universe that can save YOU is

> YOU. Only YOU can answer the four questions, only YOU can choose to

> listen to the voice of love or the voice of the ego in response to

> those questions. The only thing you need to find freedom with the

> Work is YOU.

> Now contrast that with some new age nonsense about how some doctor

> could heal patients by looking at their records and working on his

> perception of them. The ONLY person who can heal a patient is the

> patient by making a choice for love by THEMSELVES. The ONLY person

> who can save the doctor, is the doctor by HIS making another choice

> for love. The ego would love you to believe that the doctor had

> something to do with the healing, because then your attention is

> directed away from the thing that really does the healing i.e. the

> patients OWN CHOICE for love.

> So in summary let me say that yes, as one mind we are already saved

> but each individual fragment of that one mind must still make the

> choice for that love. NO ONE and NOTHING outside of the decision

> maker can make that choice or effect it in anyway. So get out your

> pens and paper and start writing down those stressful thoughts and

> inquiring, because the ONLY person or thing that will ever save YOU

> is YOU! You CANNOT save or effect ANYONE else, you can ONLY remind

> them that they can make another choice for love.

>

> Have a beautiful day

>

> " Meeting your thoughts with inquiry allows you to meet your partner

> with understanding. What determines the quality of your relationship

> with her is not what you think about her but whether you believe what

> you think about her. " Byron

>

April 18, 2007

Dear Love,

You seem to have a big charge around this.

What's going on?

Love, nne

> Yes, as Steve pointed out there is in reality only one mind so when

> Jesus awoke from the dream 2,000 years ago technically we all were

> awakened with him. What remains is for the billions of fragments of

> the Sons mind to make the same choice that Jesus did.

> The key point for me is that decision for love CANNOT be made by

> anyone but ME (the decision maker in the mind). Jesus or

cannot

> magically enter anyone's mind and make that choice for them. This

> explains why 2,000 years after Jesus made the choice for love, the

> human race is still killing, ravaging and destroying the planet and

> each other as they always have done. The majority of human beings

> still prefer to hold onto a separate " I " rather than make a

different

> choice for love. Another million people like Jesus or could

> appear on this planet and it would not make one shred of

difference.

> The ONLY thing a Jesus or can do is remind us that we can

make

> another choice. That's it, WE are the ones who ALONE have the power

> to make that choice.

> The ego, separate " I " always tries to cultivate the belief that

> someone or something outside ourselves is needed to save or heal

us.

> This is why much of the new age thought and the cult of guru's are

so

> popular. The ego knows that if I make the choice for love it is

> history, so it jumps with glee when we look for someone or

something

> outside us to make a choice that ONLY we can make. The Work like

ACIM