Guest guest Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Yes, please refer to any of my suggestions to contact me directly. Loretta, Advocate Sent from my iPhone4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 They cannot limit the time. It takes as long as it takes. If you do not finish, then you table the ARD and reconvene within ten days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Yes this is the problem ive had in the past where they only allot a short amount of time, usually its longer like an hour or hour and half and we always need to table and reconvene at another time. This is what I do not want because it gives them more time to plan against me and just annoys them that I want more time. And Ive also found that not all the ARD paperwork gets to the proper people so they have all the proper information when needing to implement things into my sons education. I plan to talk to them and ask for more time or ask for all the stuff they plan to discuss prior to the meeting. From: Haven DeLay Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:48 PM To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Subject: Re: Re: 45 minute ARD They cannot limit the time. It takes as long as it takes. If you do not finish, then you table the ARD and reconvene within ten days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 I could only wish we had 45 min ARD's. Last year we had a 7 hr one over 2 days. We have already had 3 this year and they have been a minimum of 3-5 hrs. I can't imagine going thru everything in a annual ARD in 45 mins. In my opinion. So is it reasonable for the SD to only allot 45 minutes to an ANNUAL ARD? My sons SD is saying that they will only allot 45 minutes for the ARD. I think this is ridiculous and I hate to have to schedule another and another ARD. and I know this will happen as it does every year, but this is the first time they have only given me 45 minutes! Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Insist that the fact that ARDs may only take 45 minutes be reflected in the Deliberation Page. Loretta, Advocate Sent from my iPhone4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Im not sure I understand what added value this will provide? From: loretta@... Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:40 AM To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Subject: Re: Re: 45 minute ARD Insist that the fact that ARDs may only take 45 minutes be reflected in the Deliberation Page. Loretta,Advocate Sent from my iPhone4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 If you choose to take it to mediation or due process,it will show that the school was unwilling to allow you to address your concerns by imposing an unreasonable time constraint on the meeting. It also addresses the issue of informed consent, as you are supposed to both understand the elements of the ARD meeting and have meaningful input on IEPS, accommodations, and schedule of services as well as any accommodations, state tests etc. If you have questions that cannot be addressed because staff don't have time, that is a HUGE problem.Thanks,Adina To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:35 PM Subject: Re: Re: 45 minute ARD Im not sure I understand what added value this will provide? From: loretta@... Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:40 AM To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Subject: Re: Re: 45 minute ARD Insist that the fact that ARDs may only take 45 minutes be reflected in the Deliberation Page. Loretta,Advocate Sent from my iPhone4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 The value it will provide is the further creation of a " paper trail " if you should have to show at due process that procedural safeguards filed and that perhaps you were given a minimum amount of time and this resulted in a denial of FAPE. 45 minutes is ludicrous IMO. You cannot worry about how they will feel about you. What is of the utmost importance is the creation of an IEP that will meet your child's unique needs and provide a FAPE that will move your child forward and allow him to progress. If you sign off on an IEP that is not meaningful, your child will suffer. If all they allot on that day is 45 minutes and you have not achieved the goal and had all your concerns discussed and remedied, then you table and reconvene as often as it takes to get the job done right, and if they don't like it -- that's tough. It is your child's future at stake. What is more important? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Two years ago we had about 20 hours of pre-ARD meetings because they could not write a proper goal and then 40 hours of ARD time (at least) from March until June (the last day of school). God they hated me. LOL. Hilda From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of KowalewskiSent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:27 AMTo: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Subject: Re: 45 minute ARD I could only wish we had 45 min ARD's. Last year we had a 7 hr one over 2 days. We have already had 3 this year and they have been a minimum of 3-5 hrs. I can't imagine going thru everything in a annual ARD in 45 mins. In my opinion. So is it reasonable for the SD to only allot 45 minutes to an ANNUAL ARD? My sons SD is saying that they will only allot 45 minutes for the ARD. I think this is ridiculous and I hate to have to schedule another and another ARD. and I know this will happen as it does every year, but this is the first time they have only given me 45 minutes! Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Well, I can't talk about ours, but I think I am the most hated woman in town. I don't care. In the past year and five months my son has gone from having nearly zero academic skills to mastering third grade work and is moving into some fourth grade material. He started out at below kindergarten level. This is what a real FAPE does. The child makes progress, and how ever many hours it takes to get an appropriate IEP in place, that's what you have to demand. I will take further education, independent living, and employment in my son's future any day over being " liked. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I had a advocate to go with me and we started at 2:45PM and recessed at 9PM. The school was not a happy camper. Anyone in the Gulf Coast Arc might want to check with them for an advocate. This was about 11 years ago. The school was a disastor waiting to happen and hasn't improved since. > > That’s so funny, Hilda. We had a 4 hour ARD once, and I’ve always figured I’ve now got a reputation as > the troublemaking mom. > But you should be proud for watching out for your kid! > > Marilyn > > From: Hilda Bowen > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:23 PM > To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy > Subject: RE: 45 minute ARD > > > > > Two years ago we had about 20 hours of pre-ARD meetings because they could not write a proper goal and then 40 hours of ARD time (at least) from March until June (the last day of school). God they hated me. LOL. > > > > Hilda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Louis gave very good advice, but if I thought a district were intentionally trying to limit time and thereby prevent my meaningful participation in the process, I would file due process before agreeing to an inappropriate IEP. He is also right that it is best to file DP first and then be given the option of mediation rather than ever agreeing to mediation before filing DP. They are certainly going to pay more attention and take it seriously then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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