Re: I am so fuming mad right now I could spit nails!!!

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I don't understand why they say us not getting vaccinated puts them at risk.

I mean, if they are vaccinated, why should our kids being unvaccinated

affect them at all?

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I think he was suggesting that the child who contracted it was unvaccinated and caught it from another unvaccinated child -- all of this is of course unsubstantiated by the doc.  There is NO possible way to say how the child contracted it, but if we taught better nutrition and concerned ourselves with environmental cleanup: clean water, food, air, I would guess this child would have been less likely to contract the illness.   Or perhaps this child was vaccinated with DPT and the child caught it any way, but perhaps this docotor is twisting the truth to serve his own ends.

But to say that we -- meaning the parents who have chosen not to vaccinate or keep vaccinating (with good reason) are a " threat " -- that is the word that really got me.  How dare he?It is typical of the mindset in this county and many others.  The smaller the community, the more lambs easily lead to the slaughter.  90 percent of the population are followers who just go along and believe what they are told, and a few brave thinkers outside the box, and few who dare to question the status quo.  I mean look at what happens to doctors in this country who question the vaccine gods?  They are harassed and that is putting it mildly.

I just looked back at some research, and find it interesting that as the number of vaccines given to children has risen, so have the cases of pertussis. Hmmmm....Could it be that we are vaccinating kids out of having any real natural immunity to fight disease?

Please go to the Kaufman Herald Website and express your opinion regarding this doctor's comment regarding who is to blame.  Our voices need to be heard.

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Yes I believe we are vaccinating our children into having weaker immune systems. And that's just the tip of the iceburg. While I formulate my response and find that great video from a woman MD who changed her course on vaccination, I'd ask him this. Did this child recover?

How many children with Autism recover.

If I had to play spin the wheel again with Autism one in 65 boys? I'd take whooping cough. My child is just as likely to die from wandering off into traffic as he would be to die from disease. And Autism has changed the course of his life and the lives of his entire family permanently. Not to mention his likelyhood of ever having the family his brain wants but his body and speech cannot support. What was stolen from my child cannot be put in a vaccine and made all better.

Sorry I hate January's they remind me of all the years we are losing.

Trina

 

I think he was suggesting that the child who contracted it was unvaccinated and caught it from another unvaccinated child -- all of this is of course unsubstantiated by the doc.  There is NO possible way to say how the child contracted it, but if we taught better nutrition and concerned ourselves with environmental cleanup: clean water, food, air, I would guess this child would have been less likely to contract the illness.   Or perhaps this child was vaccinated with DPT and the child caught it any way, but perhaps this docotor is twisting the truth to serve his own ends.

But to say that we -- meaning the parents who have chosen not to vaccinate or keep vaccinating (with good reason) are a " threat " -- that is the word that really got me.  How dare he?It is typical of the mindset in this county and many others.  The smaller the community, the more lambs easily lead to the slaughter.  90 percent of the population are followers who just go along and believe what they are told, and a few brave thinkers outside the box, and few who dare to question the status quo.  I mean look at what happens to doctors in this country who question the vaccine gods?  They are harassed and that is putting it mildly.

I just looked back at some research, and find it interesting that as the number of vaccines given to children has risen, so have the cases of pertussis. Hmmmm....Could it be that we are vaccinating kids out of having any real natural immunity to fight disease?

Please go to the Kaufman Herald Website and express your opinion regarding this doctor's comment regarding who is to blame.  Our voices need to be heard.

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Trina,Thanks for your comment.  I will be writing my response to the article today.  I had to sleep on it in order to calm down.  I half expect a cross to be burning in my yard any day.  Why can't these idiots see that they are demanding people place their FAITH in a vaccine?  I envision a future in which they slapa needle atop the Washington Monument and etch Merck, Wyeth, Eli Lilly, and Glaxo- Kline on the side and force everyone to bow down before it.  It is crazy!

Our pediatrician tried to talk me into giving my son the H1N1 during the false scare -- full knowing my son's history and the fact he has a medical exemption to vaccination which states that to re-vaccinate will cause further neurological and immunological damage to my son.  I told him if he put a bullet in my head first,and that shut him up.

But I heard from another parent of a vaccine-damaged child who just moved here and went to this clinic for the first time, and the PA went Gestapo on her for not vaccinating and was then told she could not bring her children back there for treatment if she refused to vaccinate.

We have to answer back to these articles and actions or they will become more and more commonplace and accepted as the norm and as the truth.How sad.  Roughly every 20 minutes in this country, a family is changed forever due to the damage caused by vaccines.

What are we mothers going to do when the day comes that they go door to door with guns, forcing us to accept toxic injections????

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I wish someone would do a study on the effectiveness of the pertussis part of the DTaP vaccine. I don't think it works. Maybe that's why there are more and more pertussis cases. I vaccinated my now 9 year old twins right up to the point where my daughter was diagnosed with autism at 2 1/2, so they got all their infant vaccines. Stupid me. Since that time, I've had titers run to prove to the schools that my children do not need booster shots (we lived in NY for a while where there is not a vaccine exemption). Even though both children had all their recommended DTaP infant shots, neither were immune to pertussis! So, there may be lots and lots of kids running around without pertussis immunity, not because their parents made a personal choice not to vaccinate, but perhaps because pharmaceutical companies

don't always make their precious vaccines effectively! On a side note, my daughter was not immune to varicella either, although my son was, so I wonder about that one too. They tested positive for all the other major viruses they were vaccinated for.

I agree, they need to be looking into other causes for immunity issues, not blaming parents who make informed decisions and go to great lengths to protect their children's immune systems the natural way.

Thanks,

Waybright

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Holy Shit Haven, guns at the doors....I don’t think the country is that organized to pull that massive of an operation off. I am fearful too, but try to be aware and set my life as safely as possible rather than live in total fear. I’ve been traumatized too and it sure does mess you up.

I’m taking a job 90 min away from my new house in Ohio to make sure my kids are safe. I’m teaching in a Montessori school to cover my children’s tuition. No easy options and I often feel as if I should wear the scarlet letter.

So many educated moms on this board. It’s great to learn from everyone.

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Hi , I want to move to Ohio too. Any advice?

Kim

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>Holy Shit Haven, guns at the doors....I don’t think the country is that

organized to pull that massive of an operation off. I am fearful too, but try

to be aware and set my life as safely as possible rather than live in total

fear. I’ve been traumatized too and it sure does mess you up.

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>I’m taking a job 90 min away from my new house in Ohio to make sure my kids

are safe. I’m teaching in a Montessori school to cover my children’s

tuition. No easy options and I often feel as if I should wear the scarlet

letter.

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>So many educated moms on this board. It’s great to learn from everyone.

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,It is not implausible.  There was an act formulated many years ago, which I now believe has become part of The Patriot Act, that is the President declares a state of emergency, then all citizens must be vaccinated by order of the government, and ALL exemptions will be withdrawn.  It the wording of this ACT it further states that civil rights will be suspended, and that any person who tries to prevent forced vaccination on themselves or their children may be stopped by any means necessary, including murdered, and that government officials (police/ soldiers/medical personnel) will be protected from prosecution if they kill anyone who refuses.

The original act is discussed in the first book about autism and vaccines by Neil Z. .  It may be the second.  I know the first time I read the wording of this act, it blew me away.And haven't we already seen some of this?  I mean, doctors and drug companies are FREE to  poison CHILDREN without any fear of prosecution, and families are left without recourse.  I actually feel a little vomit come up every time I hear " and justice for all " when the kids at the home school coop recite the pledge.

I have been researching for my letter to the editor regarding this doctor's words in the article.  " Parents who don't vaccinate their children are threats to us all. "   How can I possibly let this go without a rebuttal?

What is he suggesting?  That they round us all up and forcibly vaccinate?  Shall they quarantine us against our will out of their stupid fear-mongering?We are discussing moving as well -- further away from the larger towns and the city -- WAY out in the country.  I have also been doing a lot of studying on radical simplicity and Self-sufficiency.  I've also been studying Dr. H. Rea's book on building allergy resistant housing and pondering how to combine this with the directions on building a passive house.  I'd love to build a completely self-sufficient house but don't know if that could hold up to the Texas summers!

I's just rather get my family away from here before they start making us " non-vaccers " sew emblems on our clothing.People can get crazy when someone teachers them that one group of people is a danger to another or the cause of all the ills.  If I have learned anything from history, it has taught me that.

The great irony is that I am not totally against vaccines.  I can see the necessity in the midst of a clear and present danger.  Anyone would take even a dangerous drug today if they could be certain it would prevent them from dying tomorrow.

It would be an awful sort of " Sophie's Choice " if my son were bitten by a rabid animal, but in that instance there would be no other choice but to give him the shots.  Of course, I would opt for all that mercury than watch him die of rabies.

But this, " Children must get all the vaccines we say any time we say "   is ludicrous and of course unnecessary.Dang I WISH I had not thought to buy that paper the other day!The other irony is that no matter what my rebuttal says -- no matter how much I root it  in fact, I doubt it will have much impact on the majority who believe in the infallibility of anyone with an MD after his name.

But it is just not in my nature to remain silent.

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I am a little late in reading this but I have to say I totally agree with you! Their argument is skewed, if the child is vaccinated they shouldn't be worried. The truth is in most illnesses that vaccines are given to prevent, children who contract them usually have been vaccinated. They never tell the truth about this. I pray that we won't lose our exemptions in Texas because of the medical association lobby against the exemption.

C.

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>Holy Shit Haven, guns at the doors....I donât think the country is that organized to pull that massive of an operation off<

I beg to differ. In 2001 when the Patriot Act was passed this was introduced. I read it back then and it did say they would have mass vaccination, and at gun point.

http://www.aclu.org/technology-and-liberty/model-state-emergency-health-powers-act

There are other places to read about it, and you should be able to find the Act in full. There is a new law recently passed or soon to be passed that inches us closer to that time.

C.