Re: Working your way out of sin.

[Guest guest]

[...]

> Cause and effect of sin is pain. Sin

> is born out of pain, it results in pain

> and it takes place in pain. Emotions

> [such as fear, greed, lust, jealousy,

> shame] that cause it are pain emotions

> and emotions that they then generate

> [more of the same greed, lust and fear

> plus some pride and vanity] too are

> pain emotions! Physically their counterparts

> are fight or flight hormones such as

> adrenaline. Mentally their state is

> anxiety, irritation, stress, depression

> and some times. . . fever pitch

> excitement.

>

Anything you do because of fear. . .

is an act of sin.

Anything you do because of greed. . .

is an act of sin.

Anything you do because of lust. . .

is an act of sin.

Anything***** you do because of the effect

of fight/flight hormones. . . is an

act of sin!

And, you feel it!

.. . . you feel it while doing it!

You see it in its results!

While doing it, you feel it in your

irregular breathing, your disturbed

heartbeat, in your agitated psyche, in

your burning/aching body. You see it in

your results, because the result of

your sin generates more of the same

emotions of lust, greed, fear,

generates same fight/flight hormones

like adrenaline and pulls you further

into the cycle of sin. . . cycle of

Pain!

Given that, can you recognize your sin?

Can you recognize your sin at the time

of doing that?

Can you recognize what percentage of

your life; you spend living in sin

[i.e. acting because of fear, greed,

shame, jealousy or lust. . . driven by

adrenaline or driving towards

adrenaline]?

------

****** i.e. anything that you do because

of fear, greed, lust, shame or jealosy

except INVESTIGATING the motive of your

thoughts [and actions]!

Because, a sincere investigation,

immediately takes you out of the

'cycle of sin' and it has a halting

effect on the flow of fight/flight hormones.

A sincere investigation into the

root of the thoughts removes the root

fear and opens the door to acceptance,

compassion and love. It enables the flow

of the constructive hormones such as endorphins!

And, 'acting in love' is ...its own Reward!!!

[Guest guest]

Seen from another angle, anything done

because of the fear based " me " is a sin

because this " me " is a child of pain.

This " me " is a primarily a survival system and

its operating emotions are fear and greed.

Anything that you do " in spite of " a

me takes you out of sin.

While a " me " can certainly come back

later and claim " ownerships " of the

acts of love, beauty, peace and

happiness... in reality, a " me " has no

place to live while these " higher "

emotions are in charge. These higher

emotions come from the Whole while " me "

operates only when in strict

separation.*** A " me " needs strict, rigid

boundaries to survive and operate but,

love breaks all such boundaries. A fear

based " me " can not co-exist with love

because the basis of love is wholeness

and unity.

Thus, in summary, anything that do for

the fear based " me " is an act of sin.

Such an act is born out of pain [fear,

greed, pride, lust, shame] and it takes

you further into the pain [more greed,

lust and fear plus pride, vanity,

anxiety, stress and depression].

Anything you do in the service of Whole

i.e. with wholeness and unity based

emotions like love, acceptance,

compassion, understanding is an act

free of sin. Such an act is born out of

love, it operates in the realm of love

and its result too is love.

And, " why you d " is far more important

than " what you do " ; as far as the 'sin'

is concerned!

---

*** Even pure intellect while

it can many times be used to serve the needs of

a fear based " me " , it itself operates

at a field far higher than that of the fear

and greed which defines the boundaries

of egoic me.

[Guest guest]

[...]

> And, " why you d " is far more important

> than " what you do " ; as far as 'sin'

> is concerned!

>

Sin has very little to do with 'what

you do' and a lot to do with 'why' you

do it! And, depending on why you do it,

the entire energy field in which you

operate and the type of the energy you

bring in, changes dramatically.

Love brings wholesome healing energy to

everything it does while fear and greed

bring destructive divisive energy into

everything. While love by its very

presence, promotes unity, compassion,

acceptance, understanding and

ultimately love. The energy generated

by fear and greed breeds destruction,

disharmony, division and pain.

If you ever made love out of pure

" love " in place of " lust " ; you may very

well know how different these two modes

of " making love " can be and you also

know how vastly the energy on which

they operate differs. If you were ever

a recipient of such love [even as a

" giver " ], you know how different they

feel and how differently they affect

you without doing anything that

different from another.

Similarly, if you ever raised or

taught a child, you know how different

it is to teach, raise, guide and

discipline a kid can be because of

whether it is done because of anger,

control, because of personal goals and

ambitions... or as noble act and

responsibility out of unselfish love!

While the acts being done might look

similar on the surface, their energy

level and affect is dramatically

different!

If you were ever a recipient

of such discipline and guidance

yourself [versus the one born out of

control, anger, parental ambition], you

must also realize how fortunate you

have been! While one sooths and

nurtures like the warmth of the heaven,

the other feels like the fire of hell!

To sin, or, not to sin, we only need

to examine and understand the cause of

our acts and thoughts. Once we do that,

we know when we are acting in

accordance with love versus when we are

'acting in sin'.

We know sin by

examining the why of our thoughts and

actions and by feeling and

understanding the energy frequency in

which we operate while we do that.

Because we know even while doing

exactly same thing, the energy of love

feels vastly different that of fear,

greed, shame and lust.

[Guest guest]

[...]

> Sin has very little to do with 'what

> you do' and a lot to do with 'why' you

> do it! And, depending on why you do it,

> the entire energy field in which you

> operate and the type of the energy you

> bring in, changes dramatically.

>

[...]

>

> If you ever made love out of pure

> " love " in place of " lust " ; you may very

> well know how different these two modes

> of " making love " can be and you also

> know how vastly the energy on which

> they operate differs.

If you were ever

a recipient of such love [even as a

" giver " ], you know how different they

feel and how differently they affect

you without doing anything that

different from another on the surface.

>

> Similarly, if you ever raised or

> taught a child, you know how different

> it is to teach, raise, guide and

> discipline a kid can be because of

> whether it is done because of anger,

> control, because of personal goals and

> ambitions... or as noble act and

> responsibility out of unselfish love!

> While the acts being done might look

> similar on the surface, their energy

> level and affect is dramatically

> different!

>

[...]

> We know sin by

> examining the why of our thoughts and

> actions and by feeling and

> understanding the energy frequency in

> which we operate while we do that.

> Because we know even while doing

> exactly same thing, the energy of love

> feels vastly different that of fear,

> greed, shame and lust.

>

[Guest guest]

Anything you do because of fear. . .

is an act of sin.

I don't get it. I might cry out of fear. Is that sin? I might pray out of fea,

is that sin?

If I shut my eyes or go to sleep to avoid fear, are those sins?

Vivian

Re: Working your way out of sin.

[...]

> Cause and effect of sin is pain. Sin

> is born out of pain, it results in pain

> and it takes place in pain. Emotions

> [such as fear, greed, lust, jealousy,

> shame] that cause it are pain emotions

> and emotions that they then generate

> [more of the same greed, lust and fear

> plus some pride and vanity] too are

> pain emotions! Physically their counterparts

> are fight or flight hormones such as

> adrenaline. Mentally their state is

> anxiety, irritation, stress, depression

> and some times. . . fever pitch

> excitement.

>

Anything you do because of fear. . .

is an act of sin.

Anything you do because of greed. . .

is an act of sin.

Anything you do because of lust. . .

is an act of sin.

Anything***** you do because of the effect

of fight/flight hormones. . . is an

act of sin!

And, you feel it!

. . . you feel it while doing it!

You see it in its results!

While doing it, you feel it in your

irregular breathing, your disturbed

heartbeat, in your agitated psyche, in

your burning/aching body. You see it in

your results, because the result of

your sin generates more of the same

emotions of lust, greed, fear,

generates same fight/flight hormones

like adrenaline and pulls you further

into the cycle of sin. . . cycle of

Pain!

Given that, can you recognize your sin?

Can you recognize your sin at the time

of doing that?

Can you recognize what percentage of

your life; you spend living in sin

[i.e. acting because of fear, greed,

shame, jealousy or lust. . . driven by

adrenaline or driving towards

adrenaline]?

------

****** i.e. anything that you do because

of fear, greed, lust, shame or jealosy

except INVESTIGATING the motive of your

thoughts [and actions]!

Because, a sincere investigation,

immediately takes you out of the

'cycle of sin' and it has a halting

effect on the flow of fight/flight hormones.

A sincere investigation into the

root of the thoughts removes the root

fear and opens the door to acceptance,

compassion and love. It enables the flow

of the constructive hormones such as endorphins!

And, 'acting in love' is ...its own Reward!!!

[Guest guest]

>

> >Anything you do because of fear. . .

> >is an act of sin.

>

> I don't get it. I might cry out of fear.

> Is that sin? I might pray out of fear, is that sin?

>

> If I shut my eyes or go to sleep to avoid fear, are those sins?

>

> Vivian

Yes and you can verify it by observing

how its energy feels inside of you and

by noting that the *energy* that you feel

inside while doing it is exactly the same

energy that you unconsciously/consciously

bring into what you do.

Sin has very little to do with 'what you do'

and a lot to do with 'why' you do it and

then with 'how' you do it.]

How does it feel inside of you when

you do *anything* in fear?

How does it feel inside of you when

you do anything because of fear?

How does praying because of fear feels

different than praying out of gratitude and love?

How does it feel different inside of you?

Anything you do because of fear

EXCEPT investigating the root of fear

is a sin because the act gets contaminated by

the vibrations of fear and greed that you

bring into it.

Sincere investigating into the root of fear

On the other hand, can dismantle fear and

it can open the door to recovery. And, only after

the fear is replaced from being the motivating and

operating force of an act, it becomes free of sin.

Once fear is replaced by empowering

emotions such as love, peace, gratitude,

willingness, compassion, acceptance; the

*energy* that we bring into the act changes

Immensely and so does the actual *act*!

Even if the act that we perform out of love

looks same on surface to the one which is

done out of fear - we internally KNOW

how immensely different it really is! And,

we can feel that difference inside us while

performing it. Because, an act done in love,

gratitude, peace, happiness, acceptance,

compassion has a totally different energy

feel and that is its own reward!

Affects of an act of love, compassion, gratitude

And acceptance is not limited to the feelings inside

us alone, in fact, it goes on to transform the

whole act and ultimately the results. Yet,

it is 'why' you do it and 'how' we do it

which is really important because that is what

defines us and not the results! Results are

are only a causality bound by its law.

[Guest guest]

What I'm getting from your explanation is that the examples I gave (praying,

sleeping etc) are sins against myself as they internalize the fear I feel and

make it even stronger? Is this accurate?

Thank you for your thoughtful input.

Vivian

Re: Working your way out of sin.

>

> >Anything you do because of fear. . .

> >is an act of sin.

>

> I don't get it. I might cry out of fear.

> Is that sin? I might pray out of fear, is that sin?

>

> If I shut my eyes or go to sleep to avoid fear, are those sins?

>

> Vivian

Yes and you can verify it by observing

how its energy feels inside of you and

by noting that the *energy* that you feel

inside while doing it is exactly the same

energy that you unconsciously/consciously

bring into what you do.

Sin has very little to do with 'what you do'

and a lot to do with 'why' you do it and

then with 'how' you do it.]

How does it feel inside of you when

you do *anything* in fear?

How does it feel inside of you when

you do anything just because of fear?

How does praying because of fear feels

different than praying out of gratitude or love?

How does it feel different inside of you?

Anything you do because of fear

EXCEPT investigating the root of fear!

Sincere investigating into the root of fear

can dismantles fear and it can open the door

to recovery. Only after the fear is replaced

from being the motivating and operating force

within us, we become capable of performing

an act free of sin.

Only after fear is replaced by empowering

emotions such as love, peace, gratitude,

willingness, compassion, acceptance; we are able

to perform an act free of sin. Absent that,

operating condition of fear/greed turn everything

that we do into a sin. It is the quality of the *energy*

that we bring into an act which defines it and

anything that we do because of fear/greed gets

contaminated by its toxic vibrations.

[Guest guest]

Sin is just a concept you believe in. If you find it stressful, you can

investigate it. You may just find that it does not exist!

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