Re: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

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Nagla: Is this the SUNY Stony Brook finding, or a new report (or an old report) from another source? Hilda From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of Nagla MoussaSent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:35 PMTo: texas-autism-advocacy Subject: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002Authors: Carolyn M. Gallagherab; Melody S. GoodmanbcAbstractUniversal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in 1991;however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis Bvaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis wasdetermined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samplesobtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets. Vaccinationstatus was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was usedto estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal hepatitis Bvaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race,maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates hadthreefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated orvaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64% lesslikely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest thatU.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 (fromvaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autismdiagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same timeperiod. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk.

[Guest guest]

Now that's worthy of some serious research. This means that even people who think that babies are born with Autism might want to revisit the idea. For if this study holds true a hours old infant could be thrown into the vasts of Autism without ever having the opportunity to develop normally. Hmmmmmm. Genetic predisposition with the Hep B as the catalyst anyone?

Odds are this study was not funded by Autism Speaks. Just a hunch.

Trina

 

Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002Authors: Carolyn M. Gallagherab; Melody S. GoodmanbcAbstractUniversal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in 1991;

however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis Bvaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis wasdetermined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samples

obtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets. Vaccinationstatus was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was usedto estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal hepatitis B

vaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race,maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates hadthreefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated or

vaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64% lesslikely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest thatU.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 (from

vaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autismdiagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same timeperiod. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk.

 

[Guest guest]

I can certainly trace back 's beginning of his autism to his first hepatitis B vaccine. Hilda From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of ShermanSent: Friday, January 14, 2011 5:44 PMTo: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Subject: Re: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis Now that's worthy of some serious research. This means that even people who think that babies are born with Autism might want to revisit the idea. For if this study holds true a hours old infant could be thrown into the vasts of Autism without ever having the opportunity to develop normally. Hmmmmmm. Genetic predisposition with the Hep B as the catalyst anyone? Odds are this study was not funded by Autism Speaks. Just a hunch. Trina Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002Authors: Carolyn M. Gallagherab; Melody S. GoodmanbcAbstractUniversal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in 1991;however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis Bvaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis wasdetermined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samplesobtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets. Vaccinationstatus was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was usedto estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal hepatitis Bvaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race,maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates hadthreefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated orvaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64% lesslikely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest thatU.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 (fromvaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autismdiagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same timeperiod. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk.

[Guest guest]

This is the SUNY Stony Brook finding republished in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health. Byrne 1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis. 1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis. There's more to this issue than vaccines. Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and

http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrneFrom: Hilda Bowen To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 4:41:13 PMSubject: RE: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

Nagla: Is this the SUNY Stony Brook finding, or a new report (or an old report) from another source? Hilda From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of Nagla MoussaSent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:35 PMTo:

texas-autism-advocacy Subject: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002Authors: Carolyn M. Gallagherab; Melody S. GoodmanbcAbstractUniversal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in 1991;however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis Bvaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis wasdetermined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samplesobtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets. Vaccinationstatus

was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was usedto estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal hepatitis Bvaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race,maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates hadthreefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated orvaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64% lesslikely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest thatU.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 (fromvaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autismdiagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same timeperiod. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk.

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No seizures no abnormal genetics detected on many different tests, MRI normal, EEG normal,  no loss of motor strength no asthma rarely sick. Walked at 14 months as did other NT children, sat up at 5months crawled at 6 months, fully vaccinated but had reactions and regression at each shot. Vaccinated with HEP B at one hour old. There is more than one story here I think although I do beleive there are certain kids who genetically do not tolerate vaccines. Even one.

 

This is the SUNY Stony Brook finding republished in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health. 

Byrne

 

1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis.  1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis.  There's more to this issue than vaccines.  Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 4:41:13 PMSubject: RE: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

 

Nagla:

 

Is this the SUNY Stony Brook finding, or a new report (or an old report) from another source?

 

Hilda

 

From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of Nagla Moussa

Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:35 PMTo: texas-autism-advocacy Subject: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

 

 

Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002Authors: Carolyn M. Gallagherab; Melody S. GoodmanbcAbstractUniversal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in 1991;

however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis Bvaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis wasdetermined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samples

obtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets. Vaccinationstatus was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was usedto estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal hepatitis B

vaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race,maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates hadthreefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated or

vaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64% lesslikely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest thatU.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 (from

vaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autismdiagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same timeperiod. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk.

 

[Guest guest]

And of note is this website http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/mutationscausedisease

Which basically explains how genes can mutate into diseases by environmental insult. I think to put the full blame on genetics without considering the damage being done by a over zealous vaccine schedule is at least short sighted.

 

This is the SUNY Stony Brook finding republished in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health. 

Byrne

 

1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis.  1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis.  There's more to this issue than vaccines.  Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 4:41:13 PMSubject: RE: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

 

Nagla:

 

Is this the SUNY Stony Brook finding, or a new report (or an old report) from another source?

 

Hilda

 

From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of Nagla Moussa

Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:35 PMTo: texas-autism-advocacy Subject: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

 

 

Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002Authors: Carolyn M. Gallagherab; Melody S. GoodmanbcAbstractUniversal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in 1991;

however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis Bvaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis wasdetermined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samples

obtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets. Vaccinationstatus was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was usedto estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal hepatitis B

vaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race,maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates hadthreefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated or

vaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64% lesslikely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest thatU.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 (from

vaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autismdiagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same timeperiod. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk.

 

[Guest guest]

I'm in no way discounting your experience. But, if you've done mito/metabolic testing with a qualified physician, then you know only 1 in 3 will pop positive for a specific metabolic disorder. Primarily because they cannot test all systems impacted, specifically the brain, while you're living. Genetic testing is becoming more and more sensitive every day. Eventually, hopefully, we'll be able to catch the very smallest duplications/deletions in all genes. But we're not there yet. Thankfully 15% of us (though its suspected up to 50 - 60 % of the population could know now, so the researchers theorize

but can't prove since the population testing is still low compared to the total population impacted) know why our children have the issues they have.You are right that there is more than one story, thus the exploration into epigenetics. But this is really what the Hep B report, dated as it is, says... if you read it all. They can't imply causation here, only correlation. There were too many factors that couldn't be controlled for. It does suggest, like most research does, that additional research is needed."As with all cross-sectional secondary dataanalyses, causality cannot be determined, andthis study is subject to bias from unmeasuredor uncontrolled confounding factors. Despitethese limitations, the results of the study indicate that U.S. male neonates vaccinated withthe hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 incurreda threefold greater risk for autism diagnosis.Nonwhite boys bore a disproportionate burden. In light of the dearth of large-scale studiesthat evaluate the long-term risks of neonatal hepatitis B vaccination, and recent ï¬ndingsof uncertain long-term protection against thehepatitis B virus among children vaccinatedat birth (Giambi et al., 2008; Bialek et al.,2008), risk-beneï¬t analysis may shed additionalinsights. Our ï¬ndings do not

suggest that therisks of autism outweigh the beneï¬ts of vaccination; however, future research into hepatitisB vaccination scheduling is warranted The full text is online at http://www.progressiveconvergence.com/Hepatitis%20B%20Vaccination%20male%20neonates%201997-2002.pdf. Byrne 1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis. 1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis. There's more to this issue than vaccines. Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrneFrom: Sherman To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 7:59:52 PMSubject: Re: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

No seizures no abnormal genetics detected on many different tests, MRI normal, EEG normal, no loss of motor strength no asthma rarely sick. Walked at 14 months as did other NT children, sat up at 5months crawled at 6 months, fully vaccinated but had reactions and regression at each shot. Vaccinated with HEP B at one hour old. There is more than one story here I think although I do beleive there are certain kids who genetically do not tolerate vaccines. Even one.

This is the SUNY Stony Brook finding republished in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health.

Byrne

1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis. 1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis. There's more to this issue than vaccines. Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 4:41:13 PMSubject: RE: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

Nagla:

Is this the SUNY Stony Brook finding, or a new report (or an old report) from another source?

Hilda

From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of Nagla Moussa

Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:35 PMTo: texas-autism-advocacy Subject: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002Authors: Carolyn M. Gallagherab; Melody S. GoodmanbcAbstractUniversal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in 1991;

however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis Bvaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis wasdetermined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samples

obtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets. Vaccinationstatus was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was usedto estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal hepatitis B

vaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race,maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates hadthreefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated or

vaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64% lesslikely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest thatU.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 (from

vaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autismdiagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same timeperiod. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk.

[Guest guest]

Conversely, to place all the blame on vaccines without considering the nature of the individual human constitution would be similarly short-sighted. Thus, there's MORE to the issue than just vaccines. Byrne 1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis. 1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis. There's more to this issue than vaccines. Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrneFrom: Sherman To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 8:09:51 PMSubject:

Re: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

And of note is this website http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/mutationscausedisease

Which basically explains how genes can mutate into diseases by environmental insult. I think to put the full blame on genetics without considering the damage being done by a over zealous vaccine schedule is at least short sighted.

This is the SUNY Stony Brook finding republished in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health.

Byrne

1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis. 1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis. There's more to this issue than vaccines. Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 4:41:13 PMSubject: RE: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

Nagla:

Is this the SUNY Stony Brook finding, or a new report (or an old report) from another source?

Hilda

From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of Nagla Moussa

Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:35 PMTo: texas-autism-advocacy Subject: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002Authors: Carolyn M. Gallagherab; Melody S. GoodmanbcAbstractUniversal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in 1991;

however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis Bvaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis wasdetermined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samples

obtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets. Vaccinationstatus was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was usedto estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal hepatitis B

vaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race,maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates hadthreefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated or

vaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64% lesslikely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest thatU.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 (from

vaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autismdiagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same timeperiod. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk.

[Guest guest]

So more research is needed but it's fine to keep giving Hep B to newborns? If I had known there was even a remote chance at Autism or that anyone was researching that it might be an issue I'd surely have opted out until my infant was a month old.(How long was it before doctors decided cigarettes were bad for you? In 1960 although in about 1930 movies called cigarettes  " coffin nails " and likely it was much earlier but the surgeon general kept quiet)  Only I was not given that information and despite my child having reactions and regression with every vaccine no doctor ever said it was unwise to vaccinate him with several vaccines at once. And to top it all off when he was diagnosed with Autism no doctor had any help or advice for me other than " Talk to a parent and get a therapist " I AM NOT SICK though and I am not in need of any more of thier " help " . I think the only reason I'd want to do more sensitive testing on his genetic profile is to find a way to correct the issue, the next step would be to find out what caused it to occur.

There is no one in our family other than my son that does not speak not back over 150 years. Autism is winning and we keep running in circles.

 

I'm in no way discounting your experience.  But, if you've done mito/metabolic testing with a qualified physician, then you know only 1 in 3 will pop positive for a specific metabolic disorder.  Primarily because they cannot test all systems impacted, specifically the brain, while you're living.  Genetic testing is becoming more and more sensitive every day.  Eventually, hopefully, we'll be able to catch the very smallest duplications/deletions in all genes.  But we're not there yet. Thankfully 15% of us (though its suspected up to 50 - 60 % of the population could know now, so the researchers theorize but can't prove since the population testing is still low compared to the total population impacted) know why our children have the issues they have.

You are right that there is more than one story, thus the exploration into epigenetics.  But this is really what the Hep B report, dated as it is, says... if you read it all.  They can't imply causation here, only correlation.  There were too many factors that couldn't be controlled for.  It does suggest, like most research does, that additional research is needed.

" As with all cross-sectional secondary data analyses, causality cannot be determined, and

this study is subject to bias from unmeasured

or uncontrolled confounding factors. Despite

these limitations, the results of the study indicate that U.S. male neonates vaccinated with

the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 incurred

a threefold greater risk for autism diagnosis.

Nonwhite boys bore a disproportionate burden. In light of the dearth of large-scale studies

that evaluate the long-term risks of neonatal hepatitis B vaccination, and recent ï¬ndings

of uncertain long-term protection against the

hepatitis B virus among children vaccinated

at birth (Giambi et al., 2008; Bialek et al.,

2008), risk-beneï¬t analysis may shed additional

insights. Our ï¬ndings do not suggest that the

risks of autism outweigh the beneï¬ts of vaccination; however, future research into hepatitis

B vaccination scheduling is warranted 

The full text is online at http://www.progressiveconvergence.com/Hepatitis%20B%20Vaccination%20male%20neonates%201997-2002.pdf.

Byrne

 

1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis.  1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis.  There's more to this issue than vaccines.  Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 7:59:52 PM

Subject: Re: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

 

No seizures no abnormal genetics detected on many different tests, MRI normal, EEG normal,  no loss of motor strength no asthma rarely sick. Walked at 14 months as did other NT children, sat up at 5months crawled at 6 months, fully vaccinated but had reactions and regression at each shot. Vaccinated with HEP B at one hour old. There is more than one story here I think although I do beleive there are certain kids who genetically do not tolerate vaccines. Even one.

 

This is the SUNY Stony Brook finding republished in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health. 

Byrne

 

1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis.  1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis.  There's more to this issue than vaccines.  Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 4:41:13 PMSubject: RE: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

 

Nagla:

 

Is this the SUNY Stony Brook finding, or a new report (or an old report) from another source?

 

Hilda

 

From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of Nagla Moussa

Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:35 PMTo: texas-autism-advocacy Subject: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

 

 

Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002Authors: Carolyn M. Gallagherab; Melody S. GoodmanbcAbstractUniversal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in 1991;

however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis Bvaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis wasdetermined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samples

obtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets. Vaccinationstatus was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was usedto estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal hepatitis B

vaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race,maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates hadthreefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated or

vaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64% lesslikely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest thatU.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 (from

vaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autismdiagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same timeperiod. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk.

 

[Guest guest]

What changed the human constitution in the first place? As I mentioned there is no Autism in our family.  I never said vaccines were the only issue just that it's a contributing factor not to be ignored. I also think back when Autism was one in ten thousand and now it's closer to one in 65 boys. I think the true test of " is it really an increase " will occur when this wave of children become adults in about 7 years. Unless of course finding the answer to correct the disrupted gene profile prevents all of us from needing long term housing and care.....Are you optimistic? I wish I could be.

 

Conversely, to place all the blame on vaccines without considering the nature of the individual human constitution would be similarly short-sighted.  Thus, there's MORE to the issue than just vaccines. 

Byrne

 

1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis.  1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis.  There's more to this issue than vaccines.  Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 8:09:51 PM

Subject: Re: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

 

And of note is this website http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/mutationscausedisease

Which basically explains how genes can mutate into diseases by environmental insult. I think to put the full blame on genetics without considering the damage being done by a over zealous vaccine schedule is at least short sighted.

 

This is the SUNY Stony Brook finding republished in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health. 

Byrne

 

1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis.  1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis.  There's more to this issue than vaccines.  Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 4:41:13 PMSubject: RE: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

 

Nagla:

 

Is this the SUNY Stony Brook finding, or a new report (or an old report) from another source?

 

Hilda

 

From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of Nagla Moussa

Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:35 PMTo: texas-autism-advocacy Subject: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

 

 

Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002Authors: Carolyn M. Gallagherab; Melody S. GoodmanbcAbstractUniversal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in 1991;

however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis Bvaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis wasdetermined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samples

obtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets. Vaccinationstatus was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was usedto estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal hepatitis B

vaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race,maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates hadthreefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated or

vaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64% lesslikely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest thatU.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 (from

vaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autismdiagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same timeperiod. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk.

 

[Guest guest]

As there is nothing that's yet proven causality, the broader, unindividualized answer to "does society continue to vaccinate" is yes. Even in the SUNY Stonybrook study the authors state they are in no way saying that the risk of autism outweighs the risk of vaccination. Everything we do in life carries risk - everything. Even sitting at your PC/laptop spending time on the web carries risk (you could develop a clot from sitting too long). There will continue to be those who run in circles, specifically related to issues that carry a great deal of media attention. Thankfully others work towards finding answers.Perhaps someday you'll find your answers. Byrne 1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis. 1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis. There's more to this issue than vaccines. Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrneFrom: Sherman To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 8:46:25 PMSubject: Re: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

So more research is needed but it's fine to keep giving Hep B to newborns? If I had known there was even a remote chance at Autism or that anyone was researching that it might be an issue I'd surely have opted out until my infant was a month old.(How long was it before doctors decided cigarettes were bad for you? In 1960 although in about 1930 movies called cigarettes "coffin nails" and likely it was much earlier but the surgeon general kept quiet) Only I was not given that information and despite my child having reactions and regression with every vaccine no doctor ever said it was unwise to vaccinate him with several vaccines at once. And to top it all off when he was diagnosed with Autism no doctor had any help or advice for me other than "Talk to a parent and get a therapist" I AM NOT SICK though and I am not in need of any more of thier "help". I think the only reason I'd want to do more sensitive testing on his genetic

profile is to find a way to correct the issue, the next step would be to find out what caused it to occur.

There is no one in our family other than my son that does not speak not back over 150 years. Autism is winning and we keep running in circles.

I'm in no way discounting your experience. But, if you've done mito/metabolic testing with a qualified physician, then you know only 1 in 3 will pop positive for a specific metabolic disorder. Primarily because they cannot test all systems impacted, specifically the brain, while you're living. Genetic testing is becoming more and more sensitive every day. Eventually, hopefully, we'll be able to catch the very smallest duplications/deletions in all genes. But we're not there yet. Thankfully 15% of us (though its suspected up to 50 - 60 % of the population could know now, so the researchers theorize but can't prove since the population testing is still low compared to the total population impacted) know why our children have the issues they have.

You are right that there is more than one story, thus the exploration into epigenetics. But this is really what the Hep B report, dated as it is, says... if you read it all. They can't imply causation here, only correlation. There were too many factors that couldn't be controlled for. It does suggest, like most research does, that additional research is needed.

"As with all cross-sectional secondary data analyses, causality cannot be determined, and

this study is subject to bias from unmeasured

or uncontrolled confounding factors. Despite

these limitations, the results of the study indicate that U.S. male neonates vaccinated with

the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 incurred

a threefold greater risk for autism diagnosis.

Nonwhite boys bore a disproportionate burden. In light of the dearth of large-scale studies

that evaluate the long-term risks of neonatal hepatitis B vaccination, and recent ï¬ndings

of uncertain long-term protection against the

hepatitis B virus among children vaccinated

at birth (Giambi et al., 2008; Bialek et al.,

2008), risk-beneï¬t analysis may shed additional

insights. Our ï¬ndings do not suggest that the

risks of autism outweigh the beneï¬ts of vaccination; however, future research into hepatitis

B vaccination scheduling is warranted

The full text is online at http://www.progressiveconvergence.com/Hepatitis%20B%20Vaccination%20male%20neonates%201997-2002.pdf.

Byrne

1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis. 1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis. There's more to this issue than vaccines. Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 7:59:52 PM

Subject: Re: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

No seizures no abnormal genetics detected on many different tests, MRI normal, EEG normal, no loss of motor strength no asthma rarely sick. Walked at 14 months as did other NT children, sat up at 5months crawled at 6 months, fully vaccinated but had reactions and regression at each shot. Vaccinated with HEP B at one hour old. There is more than one story here I think although I do beleive there are certain kids who genetically do not tolerate vaccines. Even one.

This is the SUNY Stony Brook finding republished in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health.

Byrne

1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis. 1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis. There's more to this issue than vaccines. Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 4:41:13 PMSubject: RE: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

Nagla:

Is this the SUNY Stony Brook finding, or a new report (or an old report) from another source?

Hilda

From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of Nagla Moussa

Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:35 PMTo: texas-autism-advocacy Subject: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002Authors: Carolyn M. Gallagherab; Melody S. GoodmanbcAbstractUniversal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in 1991;

however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis Bvaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis wasdetermined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samples

obtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets. Vaccinationstatus was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was usedto estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal hepatitis B

vaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race,maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates hadthreefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated or

vaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64% lesslikely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest thatU.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 (from

vaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autismdiagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same timeperiod. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk.

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yes, I always wondered about that.  Parents would say their child was " born with it. "   How on earth would you know when they were jabbing them full of mercury within hours after birth?I asked if my son received Hep B in the hospital when I went to get all his records to send regarding the omnibus proceedings.  It wasn't in the record, and the hospital said no, but I think it is fishy.  My niece had a baby years later and the nurse bullied her into giving hep B to her baby by saying, " It's the law! "   Why don't more parents say, " Wait a minute here.  I want to SEE that law " ?

Haven

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I believe the risk of autism far outweighs the risk of dying from measles, mumps, or chicken pox.  If I'd only known then what I know now....

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I agree with you.  I am not at all optimistic.  I believe there can be many factors and triggers.  children living near plants that spew mercury in to the air.  In our county I found a study that showed an exponential rise in autism in children relevant to the amount of mercury in the air here.  I sadly found out the air quality in our rural area ranks near the bottom in the country due to TWO cement plants that emit mercury.

I wish I'd known THAT before we moved here.  People think the country is better, but out here you have all the neighbors burning trash.  Ours always waits until the toxic smoke blows right at our house.  I tried to talk to the neighbor about it, especially with my son's lung issues.  People can be real you know whats.  They just don't get it.

I believe the root cause is over toxicity, but in my son's case, vaccines with thimerosal were the instant trigger.  There is no autism in wither of our families and no asthma either.  I will NEVER forget that day and how I walked in with one child and walked out with another.  It was no coincidence.

We are shooting ourselves in the foot with the pollution.  I am on some pipeline groups too, and most of us are probably sitting a top toxic abandoned oil and gas pipe lines.  I know in our county many years ago, three kids were plying near one of the abandoned pipelines and the vapors inside blew, and all the kids were killed.  Now we will have the Keystone XL Transcanada pipeline coming through our state along with a nuclear waste site in South East Texas that is going to take in the waste New Jersey refused.  It is CRAZY!  keystone will me leaking toxic tar sands into our soil, rivers, streams, and lakes.  Near Houston, the manufacturing of it will spew a lot more sulfur into the air.

And our government has given a foreign oil company the right of Eminent Domain.  I know because they Eminent Domain the forest between my parents farm and my brother's.  It is so sad.I remember when I was first getting starting on the A-M group, I was told to do whatever I could to lower my child's toxic load.  Good Advice.  And this includes eliminating the toxins in vaccines from being injected into my child.

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That nurse must have thought a little too much of her power... But as far as your child, why do you think it is "fishy". It is very rare for a nurse to do something and not chart it, esp with vaccines- when I had my daughters i had to sign consent for the vaccines... A nurse is usually more worried about her license than a lawsuit about a vaccine she gave and she could get her license pulled for not charting medications given. FWIW my daughters have received all of their vaccines and will continue to do so, I do not see any connection from vaccinations to my daughters issues and my other daughter is the complete opposite of any diagnosis of autism...CarolynSent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:07 PMTo: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Subject: Re: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis yes, I always wondered about that Parents would say their child was "born with it." How on earth would you know when they were jabbing them full of mercury within hours after birth?I asked if my son received Hep B in the hospital when I went to get all his records to send regarding the omnibus proceedings. It wasn't in the record, and the hospital said no, but I think it is fishy. My niece had a baby years later and the nurse bullied her into giving hep B to her baby by saying, "It's the law!" Why don't more parents say, "Wait a minute here. I want to SEE that law"?HavenReply to sender | Reply to [The entire original message is not included]

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We cannot go back and change what was. We must deal with what is and work towards what may be. Yes, I'm borrowing from the serenity prayer. But, I am quite optimistic as I see positive changes in autistic children undergoing therapy for mitochondrial/metabolic disorders and there are promising results coming from gene therapy studies conducted outside the U.S. Every day brings something new. Even in my own children, though we are currently facing challenges and setbacks, I see improvement--they are very different little people today BECAUSE of the therapeutic interventions of geneticists. I also see the potential to decrease incidence as they have now been identified as carriers and have the information to make an informed

decision regarding having children of their own and can opt to not pass on their genetic issues.We have much, much more to discover. Even for those where an issue appears, on the surface, to be de novo; and for those where there are epigentic issues. Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference. Living one day at a time; Enjoying one moment at a time; Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace.I am ever hopeful. Byrne 1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis. 1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis. There's more to this issue

than vaccines. Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrneFrom: Sherman To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 8:58:44 PMSubject: Re: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

What changed the human constitution in the first place? As I mentioned there is no Autism in our family. I never said vaccines were the only issue just that it's a contributing factor not to be ignored. I also think back when Autism was one in ten thousand and now it's closer to one in 65 boys. I think the true test of "is it really an increase" will occur when this wave of children become adults in about 7 years. Unless of course finding the answer to correct the disrupted gene profile prevents all of us from needing long term housing and care.....Are you optimistic? I wish I could be.

Conversely, to place all the blame on vaccines without considering the nature of the individual human constitution would be similarly short-sighted. Thus, there's MORE to the issue than just vaccines.

Byrne

1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis. 1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis. There's more to this issue than vaccines. Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 8:09:51 PM

Subject: Re: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

And of note is this website http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/mutationscausedisease

Which basically explains how genes can mutate into diseases by environmental insult. I think to put the full blame on genetics without considering the damage being done by a over zealous vaccine schedule is at least short sighted.

This is the SUNY Stony Brook finding republished in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health.

Byrne

1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis. 1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis. There's more to this issue than vaccines. Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 4:41:13 PMSubject: RE: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

Nagla:

Is this the SUNY Stony Brook finding, or a new report (or an old report) from another source?

Hilda

From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of Nagla Moussa

Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:35 PMTo: texas-autism-advocacy Subject: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002Authors: Carolyn M. Gallagherab; Melody S. GoodmanbcAbstractUniversal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in 1991;

however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis Bvaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis wasdetermined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samples

obtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets. Vaccinationstatus was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was usedto estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal hepatitis B

vaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race,maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates hadthreefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated or

vaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64% lesslikely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest thatU.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 (from

vaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autismdiagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same timeperiod. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk.

[Guest guest]

Well, at this particular hospital they didn't chart my sister was losing amniotic fluid, and they sent her home and two days later her baby was still born.  Also because most hospitals at that time were saying infants had to have it.  they came in and tried to bully me into getting a rubella shot.  At least I had enough wherewithal to stand up to them on that.

[Guest guest]

Well, unfortunately, I see the majority of these children being locked away in substandard, non-appropriate programsa where their futures are in jeopardy, and if that doesn't change, we will need more institutions to house them in.  I wish I didn't see this, but I do.  When Texas starts crawling out of the pit it is in, maybe I can be more optimistic.

What is to happen to these children born to poor, uneducated parents?

[Guest guest]

Helping elected representatives, those who hold the reins to both the laws and the funding, understand the impact of autism in all its forms over time is key here. Advocate, tell your story over and over and over, participate in committees, vote, campaign for those who know, or if you have the time/strength/money/support run for office. As my grandfather was fond of saying, if we do nothing, then we've written our own story. My children give me reason to keep battling up stream. Even on the worst of days, I see in them hope for something they don't yet know. There's my optimism. Byrne 1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis. 1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis. There's more to this issue than vaccines. Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrneFrom: Haven DeLay To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 9:38:00 PMSubject: Re: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

Well, unfortunately, I see the majority of these children being locked away in substandard, non-appropriate programsa where their futures are in jeopardy, and if that doesn't change, we will need more institutions to house them in. I wish I didn't see this, but I do. When Texas starts crawling out of the pit it is in, maybe I can be more optimistic.

What is to happen to these children born to poor, uneducated parents?

[Guest guest]

Well said!

[Guest guest]

The point being that I understand what risks are when I get im my car or whatever but was never told of a " Autism risk " and according to this study I may have lessened my risk by delaying this vaccine for a month. Not such a big deal.

And as for asnwers...yes I have found them. Not by listening to doctors or researchers with big budgets funded by those who refuse to acknowledge what I saw with my own eyes, but by doctors who had the guts to get to the root of what the problem was. We made big gains with chelation to get rid of the metals in my sons body. We used anti virals to kill off the viruses in his gut. We use a specific diet to help heal the gut damaged by vaccines. I was told my son would never be able to learn with RPM he has. He's a fully included A student although the heavily researched ABA was a flop for him academically.

My son can speak now. He is rarely sick, he has grown and gained weight in the last year and wants to go to college. Is there still work to be done? Yes. Do I think gene research will provide any treatments for him in his lifetime? Not sure....but I do know that vaccines have never prevented disease many diseases simply cure themselves by better hygiene or living conditions. We are causing disease and gene mutation. I dont' give my son gluten because I have done enough testing to know he does not tolerate it. I don't give my son vaccines because i know he does not tolerate them. It's very simple. My answers are clear. My son is healing. And I have never seen Dr. Wakefield. My research continues and your posts are thought provoking what concerns me is the CAUSE of epigenetics that is the root of my search.

 

As there is nothing that's yet proven causality, the broader, unindividualized answer to " does society continue to vaccinate " is yes.  Even in the SUNY Stonybrook study the authors state they are in no way saying that the risk of autism outweighs the risk of vaccination.  

Everything we do in life carries risk - everything.  Even sitting at your PC/laptop spending time on the web carries risk (you could develop a clot from sitting too long). There will continue to be those who run in circles, specifically related to issues that carry a great deal of media attention.  Thankfully others work towards finding answers.

Perhaps someday you'll find your answers.

 

Byrne

 

1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis.  1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis.  There's more to this issue than vaccines.  Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 8:46:25 PM

Subject: Re: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

 

So more research is needed but it's fine to keep giving Hep B to newborns? If I had known there was even a remote chance at Autism or that anyone was researching that it might be an issue I'd surely have opted out until my infant was a month old.(How long was it before doctors decided cigarettes were bad for you? In 1960 although in about 1930 movies called cigarettes  " coffin nails " and likely it was much earlier but the surgeon general kept quiet)  Only I was not given that information and despite my child having reactions and regression with every vaccine no doctor ever said it was unwise to vaccinate him with several vaccines at once. And to top it all off when he was diagnosed with Autism no doctor had any help or advice for me other than " Talk to a parent and get a therapist " I AM NOT SICK though and I am not in need of any more of thier " help " . I think the only reason I'd want to do more sensitive testing on his genetic profile is to find a way to correct the issue, the next step would be to find out what caused it to occur.

There is no one in our family other than my son that does not speak not back over 150 years. Autism is winning and we keep running in circles.

 

I'm in no way discounting your experience.  But, if you've done mito/metabolic testing with a qualified physician, then you know only 1 in 3 will pop positive for a specific metabolic disorder.  Primarily because they cannot test all systems impacted, specifically the brain, while you're living.  Genetic testing is becoming more and more sensitive every day.  Eventually, hopefully, we'll be able to catch the very smallest duplications/deletions in all genes.  But we're not there yet. Thankfully 15% of us (though its suspected up to 50 - 60 % of the population could know now, so the researchers theorize but can't prove since the population testing is still low compared to the total population impacted) know why our children have the issues they have.

You are right that there is more than one story, thus the exploration into epigenetics.  But this is really what the Hep B report, dated as it is, says... if you read it all.  They can't imply causation here, only correlation.  There were too many factors that couldn't be controlled for.  It does suggest, like most research does, that additional research is needed.

" As with all cross-sectional secondary data analyses, causality cannot be determined, and

this study is subject to bias from unmeasured

or uncontrolled confounding factors. Despite

these limitations, the results of the study indicate that U.S. male neonates vaccinated with

the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 incurred

a threefold greater risk for autism diagnosis.

Nonwhite boys bore a disproportionate burden. In light of the dearth of large-scale studies

that evaluate the long-term risks of neonatal hepatitis B vaccination, and recent ï¬ndings

of uncertain long-term protection against the

hepatitis B virus among children vaccinated

at birth (Giambi et al., 2008; Bialek et al.,

2008), risk-beneï¬t analysis may shed additional

insights. Our ï¬ndings do not suggest that the

risks of autism outweigh the beneï¬ts of vaccination; however, future research into hepatitis

B vaccination scheduling is warranted 

The full text is online at http://www.progressiveconvergence.com/Hepatitis%20B%20Vaccination%20male%20neonates%201997-2002.pdf.

Byrne

 

1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis.  1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis.  There's more to this issue than vaccines.  Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 7:59:52 PM

Subject: Re: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

 

No seizures no abnormal genetics detected on many different tests, MRI normal, EEG normal,  no loss of motor strength no asthma rarely sick. Walked at 14 months as did other NT children, sat up at 5months crawled at 6 months, fully vaccinated but had reactions and regression at each shot. Vaccinated with HEP B at one hour old. There is more than one story here I think although I do beleive there are certain kids who genetically do not tolerate vaccines. Even one.

 

This is the SUNY Stony Brook finding republished in the Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health. 

Byrne

 

1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis.  1 in 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis.  There's more to this issue than vaccines.  Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 4:41:13 PMSubject: RE: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

 

Nagla:

 

Is this the SUNY Stony Brook finding, or a new report (or an old report) from another source?

 

Hilda

 

From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of Nagla Moussa

Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:35 PMTo: texas-autism-advocacy Subject: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

 

 

Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002Authors: Carolyn M. Gallagherab; Melody S. GoodmanbcAbstractUniversal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in 1991;

however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis Bvaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis wasdetermined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samples

obtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets. Vaccinationstatus was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was usedto estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal hepatitis B

vaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race,maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates hadthreefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated or

vaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64% lesslikely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest thatU.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 (from

vaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autismdiagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same timeperiod. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk.

 

[Guest guest]

How are the immune system markers? IgM, IgA, IgG. NK cells? Something is

impacting our childrens' immune systems.

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> > There's more to this issue than vaccines. Read our kids'stories online at

> > Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and **

> > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne*

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hmm, we live close to a cement plant! and it's shadow hangs over both of our parks! To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 9:21:52 PMSubject: Re: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism

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I agree with you. I am not at all optimistic. I believe there can be many factors and triggers. children living near plants that spew mercury in to the air. In our county I found a study that showed an exponential rise in autism in children relevant to the amount of mercury in the air here. I sadly found out the air quality in our rural area ranks near the bottom in the country due to TWO cement plants that emit mercury.

I wish I'd known THAT before we moved here. People think the country is better, but out here you have all the neighbors burning trash. Ours always waits until the toxic smoke blows right at our house. I tried to talk to the neighbor about it, especially with my son's lung issues. People can be real you know whats. They just don't get it.

I believe the root cause is over toxicity, but in my son's case, vaccines with thimerosal were the instant trigger. There is no autism in wither of our families and no asthma either. I will NEVER forget that day and how I walked in with one child and walked out with another. It was no coincidence.

We are shooting ourselves in the foot with the pollution. I am on some pipeline groups too, and most of us are probably sitting a top toxic abandoned oil and gas pipe lines. I know in our county many years ago, three kids were plying near one of the abandoned pipelines and the vapors inside blew, and all the kids were killed. Now we will have the Keystone XL Transcanada pipeline coming through our state along with a nuclear waste site in South East Texas that is going to take in the waste New Jersey refused. It is CRAZY! keystone will me leaking toxic tar sands into our soil, rivers, streams, and lakes. Near Houston, the manufacturing of it will spew a lot more sulfur into the air.

And our government has given a foreign oil company the right of Eminent Domain. I know because they Eminent Domain the forest between my parents farm and my brother's. It is so sad.I remember when I was first getting starting on the A-M group, I was told to do whatever I could to lower my child's toxic load. Good Advice. And this includes eliminating the toxins in vaccines from being injected into my child.

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Not all vaccinated kids are autistic so no one can make a blanket statement that

vaccines cause autism. My doctor has 2 kids with autism, the non-vaccinated one

is now on mangaged recovery. The vaccinated child is not so lucky. However,

some parents have had financial judgments in their favor based on vaccinations

triggering autism-like symptoms. Or seziure death as the result of a vaccine.

On another note - who quoted 1 in 271 in the US Amish population have a spectrum

diagnosis? I've never heard that.

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> >This is the SUNY Stony Brook finding republished in the Journal of Toxicology

> >and Environmental Health.

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> > Byrne

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> >1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis. 1 in 271 in

> >the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis. There's

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> >to this issue than vaccines. Read our kids'stories online at Caring Bridge -

> >http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and

> >http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne

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> >To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

> >Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 4:41:13 PM

> >Subject: RE: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male

> >Neonates and Autism Diagnosis

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> >Nagla:

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> >Is this the SUNY Stony Brook finding, or a new report (or an old report) from

> >another source?

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> >Hilda

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> >From:Texas-Autism-Advocacy

> >[mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of Nagla Moussa

> >Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:35 PM

> >To: texas-autism-advocacy

> >Subject: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates

> >and Autism Diagnosis

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> >Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002

> >Authors: Carolyn M. Gallagherab; Melody S. Goodmanbc

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> >Abstract

> >Universal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in 1991;

> >however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis B

> >vaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis was

> >determined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samples

> >obtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets.

Vaccination

> >status was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was

used

> >to estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal hepatitis

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> >vaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race,

> >maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates had

> >threefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated

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> >vaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64%

less

> >likely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest

> that

> >U.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999

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> >vaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autism

> >diagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same time

> >period. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk.

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In World War One soldiers would fight over soap. Small Pox was a huge issue in the trenches during the war but the ones who used soap had a smaller chance of coming done with Small Pox.

My generation had 10 vaccines before it was mandated we be vaccinated for the Flu, Pneumonia, Whooping Cough etc. I am very healthy. I have had the Flu twice in my lifetime. I was not a sick kid. I do not think vaccines are the only thing causing gene mutation I think we need to look at foods, air quality, water (fluoride), and plastics. Pretty much anything that has significantly changed in the last 20 years. Fixing the genes will be time intensive find a cure for what has already been done will be extremely expensive. Changing our food our water and reducing the toxic load in our vaccines is easy and much less expensive. But vaccines make money. LOTS of money. Every baby born gets a Hep B shot. Even if it was a dollar think of the money that makes. Hep B is transmitted by blood or sex. It is given because the mother MAY have it. Or a nurse MAY touch contaminated blood. The risk is too great to ignore when all that is needed is good hygiene, and a simple blood test for the mother or even a pause of giving the vaccine of a month. I get frustrated because I feel that just cleaning up our lives and our vaccines and reducing the schedule at least in some children who have a simple blood test to check their genetic profile to see if they can tolerate vaccines is cheap, simple logical and needed. Why are we not doing this? Dollars. Someone is making money.

 

How are the immune system markers? IgM, IgA, IgG. NK cells? Something is impacting our childrens' immune systems. > > >> >> > This is the SUNY Stony Brook finding republished in the Journal of> > Toxicology and Environmental Health.

> >> > * Byrne*> > **> > *1 in 110 in the general US population have a spectrum diagnosis. 1 in> > 271 in the US Amish population (IMFAR 03/2010) have a spectrum diagnosis.

> > There's more to this issue than vaccines. Read our kids'stories online at> > Caring Bridge - http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/prestonbyrne and **

> > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/toribyrne*> >> >> > ------------------------------> > *From:* Hilda Bowen

> > *To:* Texas-Autism-Advocacy

> > *Sent:* Fri, January 14, 2011 4:41:13 PM> > *Subject:* RE: FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male> > Neonates and Autism Diagnosis> >> >

> >> > Nagla:> >> >> >> > Is this the SUNY Stony Brook finding, or a new report (or an old report)> > from another source?> >> >> >

> > Hilda> >> >> >> > *From:* Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:> > Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] *On Behalf Of *Nagla Moussa

> > *Sent:* Friday, January 14, 2011 4:35 PM> > *To:* texas-autism-advocacy > > *Subject:* FW: Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male

> > Neonates and Autism Diagnosis> >> >> >> >> >> > Hepatitis B Vaccination of Male Neonates and Autism Diagnosis, NHIS> > 1997-2002> > Authors: Carolyn M. Gallagherab; Melody S. Goodmanbc

> >> > Abstract> > Universal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in> > 1991;> > however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis B

> > vaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis was> > determined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samples> > obtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets.

> > Vaccination> > status was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was> > used> > to estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal> > hepatitis B

> > vaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race,> > maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates> > had> > threefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never

> > vaccinated or> > vaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64%> > less> > likely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest

> > that> > U.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999> > (from> > vaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of> > autism

> > diagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same time> > period. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk.> >> >> >> >> >> >

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