Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Hi You have some serious... *THINKIN* patterns, lets have a look > Hi All > > There is a repeating pattern in my life. Some event will happen > that sparks off in me a desire to do something different, something > better with my life. First thinking pattern: I should do something better in my life. What I do now is not good enough, I should do something deferent It's usually a fairly intense event, inner, > outer, positive or negative, it doesn't matter, but usually > intense. Then I get all fired up to make a change and then... I would be all fired up to make change If I had belief the lie: I should do something better in my life ! I will try to change what is. What is is not something we have control over It is like trying to change your reflection in the mirror- Hopeless. > soon the desire is gone and I'm back to the same old same old You mean the same old thought: I should do something better in my life? > without even realizing it until... The next event that gets me all > fired up... And the pattern continues... When I'm all fired up it > feels like my life is flowing and so rich and full I can hardly keep > up with it... And then it just stops. I feel like life just > stopped. > > My first question: Life should not stop; is it true? Answer: No. Life stops, Is it true? Who's business are you when you think that thought? I am not good in doing the work with others However I can tell you that I use to have the thought: I am not doing anything meaningful in my life. Today I know that it is a lie so I don't need to change What is I can be more grateful for what I have got. I don't work at the moment, I basically do nothing And I don't think that I should do something better in my life. Question that thought, It might lead you to something T > That's my experience of what it does. > > But my next question is: How can I deal more effectively with this > apparent starting and stopping of life? I have come up with some > answers to that but I would greatly appreciate anything anyone can > add. > > Warm Regards > ph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 dear ph.. is it ok if life stops.. Boy i feel like sometimes i have gotten no where in my spiritual seeking and its frustrating. says we are always being supported.. I hope we are always learning though sometimes it seems i dont. im not sure what you mean -but maybe it is like the emotional tone scale of ron hubbard.. when a person is down they get in apathy and dont care for change etc.. When a person is up in interest or enthusiasm they are gung ho to do things.. And it is just different emotional states that is true for every human being.. In the up state your free of believing lies and in the down feelings you are believing lies.. Flo would say the valley experiences or mountain top experiences.. the mortal mind , or the master Divine MInd That would be my take on it. Or are you around any person who suppresses you.. stifles your communication ?etc. I think you have to accept ups and downs until a person gets more and more in tune with Spirit. Im not there.. Im still living the sad dream. but im better today. Nirmala says be comfortable with both states.. not to just want only expansive feelings but be ok with feeling contracted to. In those down times you might be progressing without your realizing it. Flo says dont judge by appearances. I dont know if any of that is really what you were writing about.. i hope that makes sense, Im trying to listen to positive cds..and counter by negative habit thanks for the suggestion love, roslyn -- In Loving-what-is , " joseph.being " wrote: > > Hi All > > There is a repeating pattern in my life. Some event will happen > that sparks off in me a desire to do something different, something > better with my life. It's usually a fairly intense event, inner, > outer, positive or negative, it doesn't matter, but usually > intense. Then I get all fired up to make a change and then... very > soon the desire is gone and I'm back to the same old same old > without even realizing it until... the next event that gets me all > fired up... and the pattern continues... When I'm all fired up it > feels like my life is flowing and so rich and full I can hardly keep > up with it... and then it just stops. I feel like life just > stopped. > > My first question: Life should not stop; is it true? Answer: No. > That's my experience of what it does. > > But my next question is: How can I deal more effectively with this > apparent starting and stopping of life? I have come up with some > answers to that but I would greatly appreciate anything anyone can > add. > > Warm Regards > ph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Tami.. in this email you sound like .. well that isnt true either wise like yourself good job.. I am impressed. thanks for being in this group, r --- In Loving-what-is , " Tami " wrote: > > Hi > > You have some serious... *THINKIN* patterns, lets have a look > > > Hi All > > > > There is a repeating pattern in my life. Some event will happen > > that sparks off in me a desire to do something different, > something > > better with my life. > First thinking pattern: I should do something better in my life. > What I do now is not good enough, I should do something deferent > > > It's usually a fairly intense event, inner, > > outer, positive or negative, it doesn't matter, but usually > > intense. Then I get all fired up to make a change and then... > I would be all fired up to make change > If I had belief the lie: > I should do something better in my life ! > I will try to change what is. > What is is not something we have control over > It is like trying to change your reflection in the mirror- > Hopeless. > > > > soon the desire is gone and I'm back to the same old same old > > You mean the same old thought: I should do something better in my > life? > > > > without even realizing it until... The next event that gets me all > > fired up... And the pattern continues... When I'm all fired up it > > feels like my life is flowing and so rich and full I can hardly > keep > > up with it... And then it just stops. I feel like life just > > stopped. > > > > My first question: Life should not stop; is it true? Answer: > No. > > Life stops, Is it true? > Who's business are you when you think that thought? > > I am not good in doing the work with others > However I can tell you that I use to have the thought: > I am not doing anything meaningful in my life. > Today I know that it is a lie so I don't need to change > What is I can be more grateful for what I have got. > I don't work at the moment, I basically do nothing > And I don't think that I should do something better in my life. > > Question that thought, > It might lead you to something > > T > > > That's my experience of what it does. > > > > But my next question is: How can I deal more effectively with > this > > apparent starting and stopping of life? I have come up with some > > answers to that but I would greatly appreciate anything anyone can > > add. > > > > Warm Regards > > ph > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Thank you R Thank you Me and are all the time tugheter, so we become alike Hey, R If you don't want to work, you have to work to earn enough money so that you won't have to work Got it? From: mrcitrus6 Date: 05/09/06 21:47:53 To: Loving-what-is Subject: Re: When Life Stops Tami.. in this email you sound like .. well that isnt true either wise like yourself good job.. I am impressed. thanks for being in this group, r --- In Loving-what-is , " Tami " wrote: > > Hi > > You have some serious... *THINKIN* patterns, lets have a look > > > Hi All > > > > There is a repeating pattern in my life. Some event will happen > > that sparks off in me a desire to do something different, > something > > better with my life. > First thinking pattern: I should do something better in my life. > What I do now is not good enough, I should do something deferent > > > It's usually a fairly intense event, inner, > > outer, positive or negative, it doesn't matter, but usually > > intense. Then I get all fired up to make a change and then... > I would be all fired up to make change > If I had belief the lie: > I should do something better in my life ! > I will try to change what is. > What is is not something we have control over > It is like trying to change your reflection in the mirror- > Hopeless. > > > > soon the desire is gone and I'm back to the same old same old > > You mean the same old thought: I should do something better in my > life? > > > > without even realizing it until... The next event that gets me all > > fired up... And the pattern continues... When I'm all fired up it > > feels like my life is flowing and so rich and full I can hardly > keep > > up with it... And then it just stops. I feel like life just > > stopped. > > > > My first question: Life should not stop; is it true? Answer: > No. > > Life stops, Is it true? > Who's business are you when you think that thought? > > I am not good in doing the work with others > However I can tell you that I use to have the thought: > I am not doing anything meaningful in my life. > Today I know that it is a lie so I don't need to change > What is I can be more grateful for what I have got. > I don't work at the moment, I basically do nothing > And I don't think that I should do something better in my life. > > Question that thought, > It might lead you to something > > T > > > That's my experience of what it does. > > > > But my next question is: How can I deal more effectively with > this > > apparent starting and stopping of life? I have come up with some > > answers to that but I would greatly appreciate anything anyone can > > add. > > > > Warm Regards > > ph > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 T.. i have to work because i am too much of a whimp to quit.. and walk out.. it feels like that old no choice again.. boo hoo. crap, r- -- In Loving-what-is , Tami wrote: > > Thank you R > > Thank you > Me and are all the time tugheter, so we become alike > > Hey, R > > If you don't want to work, you have to work to earn enough money so that you > won't have to work > > Got it? > > > From: mrcitrus6 > Date: 05/09/06 21:47:53 > To: Loving-what-is > Subject: Re: When Life Stops > > Tami.. in this email you sound like .. > > well that isnt true either wise like yourself > > good job.. I am impressed. > > thanks for being in this group, r --- > > > In Loving-what-is , " Tami " <tamar_fa@> wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > You have some serious... *THINKIN* patterns, lets have a look > > > > > Hi All > > > > > > There is a repeating pattern in my life. Some event will happen > > > that sparks off in me a desire to do something different, > > something > > > better with my life. > > First thinking pattern: I should do something better in my life. > > What I do now is not good enough, I should do something deferent > > > > > > It's usually a fairly intense event, inner, > > > outer, positive or negative, it doesn't matter, but usually > > > intense. Then I get all fired up to make a change and then... > > I would be all fired up to make change > > If I had belief the lie: > > I should do something better in my life ! > > I will try to change what is. > > What is is not something we have control over > > It is like trying to change your reflection in the mirror- > > Hopeless. > > > > > > > soon the desire is gone and I'm back to the same old same old > > > > You mean the same old thought: I should do something better in my > > life? > > > > > > > without even realizing it until... The next event that gets me all > > > fired up... And the pattern continues... When I'm all fired up it > > > feels like my life is flowing and so rich and full I can hardly > > keep > > > up with it... And then it just stops. I feel like life just > > > stopped. > > > > > > My first question: Life should not stop; is it true? Answer: > > No. > > > > Life stops, Is it true? > > Who's business are you when you think that thought? > > > > I am not good in doing the work with others > > However I can tell you that I use to have the thought: > > I am not doing anything meaningful in my life. > > Today I know that it is a lie so I don't need to change > > What is I can be more grateful for what I have got. > > I don't work at the moment, I basically do nothing > > And I don't think that I should do something better in my life. > > > > Question that thought, > > It might lead you to something > > > > T > > > > > That's my experience of what it does. > > > > > > But my next question is: How can I deal more effectively with > > this > > > apparent starting and stopping of life? I have come up with some > > > answers to that but I would greatly appreciate anything anyone can > > > add. > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > ph > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Dear ph, Am 09.05.2006 um 02:57 schrieb joseph.being: > Hi All > > There is a repeating pattern in my life. Some event will happen > that sparks off in me a desire to do something different, something > better with my life. It's usually a fairly intense event, inner, > outer, positive or negative, it doesn't matter, but usually > intense. Then I get all fired up to make a change and then... very > soon the desire is gone and I'm back to the same old same old > without even realizing it until... the next event that gets me all > fired up... and the pattern continues... When I'm all fired up it > feels like my life is flowing and so rich and full I can hardly keep > up with it... and then it just stops. I feel like life just > stopped. > > My first question: Life should not stop; is it true? Answer: No. > That's my experience of what it does. > > But my next question is: How can I deal more effectively with this > apparent starting and stopping of life? I have come up with some > answers to that but I would greatly appreciate anything anyone can > add. What makes you think that you should deal more effectively with it? I hear that you want to have MORE than you do. So look for what would be enough. And inquire into that. You may found out that you have more than you need, already. > Warm Regards > ph Love, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Dear Roslyn > In those down times you might be progressing without your realizing > it. Flo says dont judge by appearances. I have been thinking about the ups and downs and progressing without realizing it. I can see that progress is possible during the down times if I choose to learn from them. Then I am more accepting of the down times because they have value to me and I am conscious of progress so that makes them much more bearable. > Or are you around any person who suppresses you.. stifles your > communication ?etc. No one is suppressing me that I'm aware of... No one so much as my- self anyway... > I dont know if any of that is really what you were writing about.. > i hope that makes sense, Do you need to know? It was very valuable to me! Warm Regards ph > > > > Hi All > > > > There is a repeating pattern in my life. Some event will happen > > that sparks off in me a desire to do something different, something > > better with my life. It's usually a fairly intense event, inner, > > outer, positive or negative, it doesn't matter, but usually > > intense. Then I get all fired up to make a change and then... very > > soon the desire is gone and I'm back to the same old same old > > without even realizing it until... the next event that gets me all > > fired up... and the pattern continues... When I'm all fired up it > > feels like my life is flowing and so rich and full I can hardly keep > > up with it... and then it just stops. I feel like life just > > stopped. > > > > My first question: Life should not stop; is it true? Answer: No. > > That's my experience of what it does. > > > > But my next question is: How can I deal more effectively with this > > apparent starting and stopping of life? I have come up with some > > answers to that but I would greatly appreciate anything anyone can > > add. > > > > Warm Regards > > ph > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Dear Tami > You mean the same old thought: I should do something better in my > life? I think it is obvious that I need to do something better when I don't like any job I have and can't even pay the friggin' rent! But that aside I see that when I think that thought I totally disregard all the meaningful (better) things that I am already doing. It seems that one can use The Work to find truth or to make excuses. This seems to fit into what (was it LTW?) someone said about accepting what is and yet taking the appropriate social action. > Life stops, Is it true? > Who's business are you when you think that thought? That would put me in life's business... whatever that's supposed to mean!?!?! The truth is that I stop. Warm Regards ph > > Hi > > You have some serious... *THINKIN* patterns, lets have a look > > > Hi All > > > > There is a repeating pattern in my life. Some event will happen > > that sparks off in me a desire to do something different, > something > > better with my life. > First thinking pattern: I should do something better in my life. > What I do now is not good enough, I should do something deferent > > > It's usually a fairly intense event, inner, > > outer, positive or negative, it doesn't matter, but usually > > intense. Then I get all fired up to make a change and then... > I would be all fired up to make change > If I had belief the lie: > I should do something better in my life ! > I will try to change what is. > What is is not something we have control over > It is like trying to change your reflection in the mirror- > Hopeless. > > > > soon the desire is gone and I'm back to the same old same old > > You mean the same old thought: I should do something better in my > life? > > > > without even realizing it until... The next event that gets me all > > fired up... And the pattern continues... When I'm all fired up it > > feels like my life is flowing and so rich and full I can hardly > keep > > up with it... And then it just stops. I feel like life just > > stopped. > > > > My first question: Life should not stop; is it true? Answer: > No. > > Life stops, Is it true? > Who's business are you when you think that thought? > > I am not good in doing the work with others > However I can tell you that I use to have the thought: > I am not doing anything meaningful in my life. > Today I know that it is a lie so I don't need to change > What is I can be more grateful for what I have got. > I don't work at the moment, I basically do nothing > And I don't think that I should do something better in my life. > > Question that thought, > It might lead you to something > > T > > > That's my experience of what it does. > > > > But my next question is: How can I deal more effectively with > this > > apparent starting and stopping of life? I have come up with some > > answers to that but I would greatly appreciate anything anyone can > > add. > > > > Warm Regards > > ph > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Dear > So look for what would be enough. And inquire into that. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that. What would be enough? To be happy... healthy... to be capable of meaningful action... and I have those things when they're not being blocked out by my negative thinking! hmmm... Warm Regards ph > > Dear ph, > > Am 09.05.2006 um 02:57 schrieb joseph.being: > > > Hi All > > > > There is a repeating pattern in my life. Some event will happen > > that sparks off in me a desire to do something different, something > > better with my life. It's usually a fairly intense event, inner, > > outer, positive or negative, it doesn't matter, but usually > > intense. Then I get all fired up to make a change and then... very > > soon the desire is gone and I'm back to the same old same old > > without even realizing it until... the next event that gets me all > > fired up... and the pattern continues... When I'm all fired up it > > feels like my life is flowing and so rich and full I can hardly keep > > up with it... and then it just stops. I feel like life just > > stopped. > > > > My first question: Life should not stop; is it true? Answer: No. > > That's my experience of what it does. > > > > But my next question is: How can I deal more effectively with this > > apparent starting and stopping of life? I have come up with some > > answers to that but I would greatly appreciate anything anyone can > > add. > What makes you think that you should deal more effectively with it? > > I hear that you want to have MORE than you do. > > So look for what would be enough. And inquire into that. > > You may found out that you have more than you need, already. > > > Warm Regards > > ph > Love, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Dear Nel I don't understand what your saying. Could you give some more detail? Warm Regards ph > > > > > > Hi All > > > > > > There is a repeating pattern in my life. Some event will happen > > > that sparks off in me a desire to do something different, something > > > better with my life. It's usually a fairly intense event, inner, > > > outer, positive or negative, it doesn't matter, but usually > > > intense. Then I get all fired up to make a change and then... very > > > soon the desire is gone and I'm back to the same old same old > > > without even realizing it until... the next event that gets me all > > > fired up... and the pattern continues... When I'm all fired up it > > > feels like my life is flowing and so rich and full I can hardly keep > > > up with it... and then it just stops. I feel like life just > > > stopped. > > > > > > My first question: Life should not stop; is it true? Answer: No. > > > That's my experience of what it does. > > > > > > But my next question is: How can I deal more effectively with this > > > apparent starting and stopping of life? I have come up with some > > > answers to that but I would greatly appreciate anything anyone can > > > add. > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > ph > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 Dear ph, Am 13.05.2006 um 06:18 schrieb joseph.being: > Dear > >> So look for what would be enough. And inquire into that. > > I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that. What would be enough? > To be happy... healthy... to be capable of meaningful action... and > I have those things when they're not being blocked out by my > negative thinking! hmmm... Ok, so it may be nice to notice, that sometimes, you DO have enought. Your question was, how to deal with everything MORE effectively. And how effective would be effectively enough? How would you notice that you are as effective as you need to be, to be happy? What place would you have to be in? Picture your perfect life, and notice the difference of NOW in your perfect life from that of your current life. To experience this difference you may just judge your life. It could go: I don't have enough money, the people at my job should be nicer to me, my boss should pay me more, my work should be more interesting... And maybe more accurate would be: Life stops. Is that true? Now take the place where it feels most true for you, and inquire from there: what is your proof, there? > Warm Regards > ph Love, > >> >> Dear ph, >> >> Am 09.05.2006 um 02:57 schrieb joseph.being: >> >>> Hi All >>> >>> There is a repeating pattern in my life. Some event will happen >>> that sparks off in me a desire to do something different, > something >>> better with my life. It's usually a fairly intense event, inner, >>> outer, positive or negative, it doesn't matter, but usually >>> intense. Then I get all fired up to make a change and then... > very >>> soon the desire is gone and I'm back to the same old same old >>> without even realizing it until... the next event that gets me > all >>> fired up... and the pattern continues... When I'm all fired up it >>> feels like my life is flowing and so rich and full I can hardly > keep >>> up with it... and then it just stops. I feel like life just >>> stopped. >>> >>> My first question: Life should not stop; is it true? Answer: > No. >>> That's my experience of what it does. >>> >>> But my next question is: How can I deal more effectively with > this >>> apparent starting and stopping of life? I have come up with some >>> answers to that but I would greatly appreciate anything anyone > can >>> add. >> What makes you think that you should deal more effectively with it? >> >> I hear that you want to have MORE than you do. >> >> So look for what would be enough. And inquire into that. >> >> You may found out that you have more than you need, already. >> >>> Warm Regards >>> ph >> Love, >> >> > ___________________________________________________________ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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