Guest guest Posted July 6, 1999 Report Share Posted July 6, 1999 I THINK YOU MAY HAVE SENT THIS TO THE WRONG PERSON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 1999 Report Share Posted November 18, 1999 In a message dated 99-11-18 18:40:38 EST, you write: << 'm also starting to get ready to begin the Heller's (Carbohydrate Addicts) program. Not sure though if I am going to start it before or after the holidays! >> Marcy, I'm not sure if this is the best carb reduction program for diabetics, what with their " withhold then a binge is okay " philosophy. (I'm actually pretty sure it isn't.) Better you should read " Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solutions " by Bernstein, M.D., who is a diabetic himself. You can get this from Amazon if they don't have it where you live. Or try your local library. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 1999 Report Share Posted November 18, 1999 Marcy Snowball wrote: << ... I just got a copy of my results from October 5th, and mine was 13.0!! My glucose reading at that time was 18.3. I did start back on insulin and have had fairly good results, ie. lunch was 6.2 today, so I have come a long way!! I'm also starting to get ready to begin the Heller's (Carbohydrate Addicts) program. Not sure though if I am going to start it before or after the holidays! Anyways, thought I'd check in with everyone. I'm also having problems with my big toe! >> Marcy, I can't urge you too strongly to do something immediately. You can't afford to wait another day ... let alone postpone good control until after the holidays. By then, you could be contemplating gangrene and even an amputated toe. The truth about poor control is that you don't realize how bad the damage is until it's too late. Please believe us ... Diabetes is a major killer. The numbers you have been experiencing will kill you, Marcy. And it's not a quick, clean death ... we call it " slice and dice " ... they start whacking off your toes, one at a time ... then the foot ... then up to the knee, etc. Meanwhile, you go dead from the waist down ... you lose your vision ... you have chronic infections that won't heal ... your digestive system starts shutting down ... you take more and more pills, yet your blood pressure, triglycerides, and cholesterol get worse and worse. Parts of your body turn black and smelly. And then you have the first of the heart attacks that eventually kill you. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 1999 Report Share Posted November 18, 1999 Marcy Snowball wrote: << Does anyone know what to do if you miss a dose of insulin?? Last week I was really busy at work and I did not have lunch or my insulin. When I checked my sugar it was 4.2, I ended up taking my insulin at 3:30 and eating then then taking my next dose at 9pm and eating then. I'm back on schedule now, and no more missed lunches since!! >> Marcy, what kind of diet are you on? The above tells me a few things. One is that you are using the equivalent of Humalog ... the really fast-acting insulin. Another is that I think your diet is really impacting your bg's. Since you are not a type 1, and since you are apparently on a Humalog equivalent, the timing of your meals shouldn't be all that important ... as long as you essentially " match the carbs " with insulin in the right amount. Since your missed-lunch/insulin reading was a little low, couldn't you just have eaten a light or low-carb meal at 3:30 without insulin? Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 1999 Report Share Posted November 19, 1999 Hi Marcy, I read your mail and would just inform you that the HbA1C range in the questionnaire will be increased. Best regards (no subject) > > > Hi All: > I just wanted to " complain " (just joking) about the list of HGA1C's!! > It only went up to 10.1-10.5, um I just got a copy of my results from > October 5th, and mine was 13.0!! My glucose reading at that time was > 18.3. I did start back on insulin and have had fairly good results, ie. > lunch was 6.2 today, so I have come a long way!! I'm also starting to > get ready to begin the Heller's (Carbohydrate Addicts) program. Not > sure though if I am going to start it before or after the holidays! > Anyways, thought I'd check in with everyone. I'm also having problems > with my big toe! AAHH! Take care all, and I do enjoy all of the > informative posts, just don't get alot of time to post. > > Does anyone know what to do if you miss a dose of insulin?? Last week I > was really busy at work and I did not have lunch or my insulin. When I > checked my sugar it was 4.2, I ended up taking my insulin at 3:30 and > eating then then taking my next dose at 9pm and eating then. I'm back > on schedule now, and no more missed lunches since!! > > Marcy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 1999 Report Share Posted November 19, 1999 I had my first idea that I had DM right before Thanksgiving last year. I went into Scarlett O'Hara mode (I'll think about that tomorrow) and deliberately stayed there until after the holidays, so I wouldn't have to worry about what I ate. After a couple of months of treatment I couldn't believe how much better I felt. IMHO, the two months of eating without thinking were absolutely NOT worth the extra time of feeling crummy and not treating the disease. Robin G. > I'm also starting to get ready to begin the Heller's (Carbohydrate Addicts) program. Not sure though if I am going to start it before or after the holidays! >Anyways, thought I'd check in with everyone. I'm also having problems >with my big toe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 1999 Report Share Posted November 19, 1999 Oh Susie! UUUUUGH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 1999 Report Share Posted November 19, 1999 Robin G. wrote: << I had my first idea that I had DM right before Thanksgiving last year. I went into Scarlett O'Hara mode (I'll think about that tomorrow) and deliberately stayed there until after the holidays, so I wouldn't have to worry about what I ate. After a couple of months of treatment I couldn't believe how much better I felt. IMHO, the two months of eating without thinking were absolutely NOT worth the extra time of feeling crummy and not treating the disease. >> I'm glad we're ventilating about this subject, especially at this time of year. I agree ... having diabetes makes us so sick when we're outta control that no food is worth it. Nothing TASTES as good as good control FEELS. Group hugs, Susie ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 1999 Report Share Posted November 19, 1999 AAHH SUSIE!! How nice was that - LOL! Seriously - I have been doing well. I plan on being good for the holidays, I'm just not sure I'm going to switch to the low-carb diet till after the holidays. My sugars have been quite good lately, and steady! I asked my doctor for a copy of the test results so that I can keep a record to see how I improve. But thanks for " scaring " me Susie, I do need to hear stuff like that to keep me on track! marcy OtterCritter wrote: > > > Marcy Snowball wrote: > > << ... I just got a copy of my results from October 5th, and mine was > 13.0!! My glucose reading at that time was 18.3. I did start back on > insulin and have had fairly good results, ie. lunch was 6.2 today, so I > have come a long way!! I'm also starting to get ready to begin the > Heller's (Carbohydrate Addicts) program. Not sure though if I am > going to start it before or after the holidays! Anyways, thought I'd > check in with everyone. I'm also having problems with my big toe! >> > > Marcy, I can't urge you too strongly to do something immediately. You can't > afford to wait another day ... let alone postpone good control until after > the holidays. By then, you could be contemplating gangrene and even an > amputated toe. The truth about poor control is that you don't realize how > bad the damage is until it's too late. Please believe us ... Diabetes is a > major killer. The numbers you have been experiencing will kill you, Marcy. > And it's not a quick, clean death ... we call it " slice and dice " ... they > start whacking off your toes, one at a time ... then the foot ... then up to > the knee, etc. Meanwhile, you go dead from the waist down ... you lose your > vision ... you have chronic infections that won't heal ... your digestive > system starts shutting down ... you take more and more pills, yet your blood > pressure, triglycerides, and cholesterol get worse and worse. Parts of your > body turn black and smelly. And then you have the first of the heart attacks > that eventually kill you. > > Susie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 1999 Report Share Posted November 26, 1999 Congratulations on your new WOE!! The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. Robin G. The untrue never is; the true never isn't. Krishna > > > >Hi All: >I just wanted to check in with you all. I wanted to let you know that I >took a big step - today I have started my low-carb WOE!! I picked today ><snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 1999 Report Share Posted December 28, 1999 In a message dated 99-12-28 12:40:28 EST, you write: << If you are counting your carbs, exchanges are of little value to you. Toni >> I personally find counting carbs a lot less complicated than exchanges. And it works better too, I think. Vikcki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 1999 Report Share Posted December 28, 1999 An exchange is a food choice as set forth in the ADA diet for diabetics. Many diet programs use exchanges as a way to plan menus. Each food is assigned an exchange based on serving size and caloric content. Example: A bread exchange is usually one slice and has about 15 g. carbohydrate and 60 or so calories. Everything listed under breads has the same caloric and carb value (approx) Your dietitian will tell you to select so many foods from each list, i.e. meats,breads, milks, vegetables, fruits, fats. You may be allowed 1 milk, 2 breads, 2 meats, 1 fruit, 1 fat. That would be a meal. Exchange amounts differ by the amount of calories you are allowed in your diet plan. Go to the ADA web site to learn more about exchanges. If you are counting your carbs, exchanges are of little value to you. Toni (no subject) > > > Anyone; what are ( exchanges ) I'm not familiar with this term. If the term > could be explained I'd appreciate it. It seems to me the more I think I know > about this disease, then I relize that I know almost nothing. But always > glad to learn. Hope everyone had a good and safe Xmas. Ron B Muskoka Ont > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 1999 Report Share Posted December 28, 1999 Hi Ron, Exchanges are values used in the " olden days " before blood glucose meters and carb counting and other measuring methods. Each item was assigned so many points such as one meat and one bread , 2 fruits and 1 milk for a meal was considered a meal and each meal had one of the ingredients of the food pyramid from each level. If one wanted two breads instead of one he would have exchange the bread for a potato or some other food of the same group. If yu want more spuds you eat less bread. You exchanged each food foe one of the same value to balance the meal and satisfy your own cravings. Clear as mud? Each food ahd a group and a value and each could be exchanged for one of equal value. Don and Penguinie Exchnaging penguin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 1999 Report Share Posted December 28, 1999 LOL! Geeze, don't make it sound so " olden days. " It still works quite nicely for some of us, thank you. Re: (no subject) > From: DHill52084@... > > Hi Ron, > Exchanges are values used in the " olden days " before blood glucose meters > and carb counting and other measuring methods. Each item was assigned so > many points such as one meat and one bread , 2 fruits and 1 milk for a meal > was considered a meal and each meal had one of the ingredients of the food > pyramid from each level. If one wanted two breads instead of one he would > have exchange the bread for a potato or some other food of the same group. > If yu want more spuds you eat less bread. You exchanged each food foe one of > the same value to balance the meal and satisfy your own cravings. Clear as > mud? Each food ahd a group and a value and each could be exchanged for one > of equal value. > Don and Penguinie Exchnaging penguin > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 1999 Report Share Posted December 29, 1999 At 04:35 PM 12/28/99 -0500, you wrote: >From: WHIMSY2@... > >In a message dated 99-12-28 12:40:28 EST, you write: > ><< If you are > counting your carbs, exchanges are of little value to you. Toni >> > >I personally find counting carbs a lot less complicated than exchanges. And >it works better too, I think. Vikcki > I'm with you all the way here, Vicki. However, there are folks for whom the Exchange Method is a way of life. My diabetic friend is an example. She *claims* carb counting is just too - too difficult fro her math impaired brain to cope with. (This is the friend I'm always [trying not to] argue with.) She is out of control currently. Another thing about the Exchanges -- there are other nutrient categories hidden in the different ones. E.g.: -- 1 Starch exchange -- 15 g carb, 3 g protein, 0-1 g fat, 80 calories 1 Fruit exchange -- 15 g carb, 60 calories 1 Milk exchange -- 12 g carb, 8 g protein, ??? calories (multiply the carbs & protein grams x 4.) (Fat g are multiplied x 9.) 1 Meat exchange -- 7 g protein, 0-8 g fat (depending on the fat content of the meat -- how do you *guess* this???), 35 - 100 calories. 1 Vegetable exchange -- 5 g carb, 2 g protein, 0 g fat, 25 cal. Etc. Then there are the " Free " foods: Cream cheese, fat free - 1 Tbsp. (Actually 2 g. carb, 1.5 g. prot, 0 g fat.) Ketchup 1 Tbsp. (Actually 4 g carb, 15 calories) I guess this is " close enough " if you're satisfied with less than accurate-to-the-gram. in Constable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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