Re: Speech Therapy - grace!

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Thank you . I was about to blow a gasket when I saw that quote.

Sissi

Re: Speech Therapy - grace!

> > he said that there would be no point in starting ST when they had no

speech at all <

>

>

> hi grace,

> i realize you wrote this almost 2 weeks ago, but i just read it and

noticed there weren't too many replies. anyway, i needed to tell you that

that is complete CRAP!

> speech is FAR more than just words. there are many many components of

language, with words being only the outcome.

> i strongly suggest that you have your daughters reevaluated by someone who

knows what the hell they're talking about! if it turns out that they never

have verbal speech, they should still be taught HOW to communicate.

> anyway, just an opinion of a mom whose had two kids in speech before they

had any " speech " .

> love gina

>

>

> " Isn't it wonderful how each of us on this earth was created just a little

bit different? " - Linus

>

> " I gave up trying to understand people long ago. Now I just let them try

to understand me. " - Snoopy

>

>

>

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In a message dated 10/24/2001 5:51:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

muollo3@... writes:

> > he said that there would be no point in starting ST when they had no

> speech at all <

>

>

> hi grace,

> i realize you wrote this almost 2 weeks ago, but i just read it and noticed

> there weren't too many replies. anyway, i needed to tell you that that is

> complete CRAP!

> speech is FAR more than just words. there are many many components of

> language, with words being only the outcome.

> i strongly suggest that you have your daughters reevaluated by someone who

> knows what the hell they're talking about! if it turns out that they never

> have verbal speech, they should still be taught HOW to communicate.

> anyway, just an opinion of a mom whose had two kids in speech before they

> had any " speech " .

> love gina

>

>

>

I just noticed this too....I agree...run away Grace...run away from these

people...

Ron

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In a message dated 10/24/01 4:26:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

bunnytiner@... writes:

> I know Marilla is hyperlexic and actually the outcome for hyperlexic kids

> tends to be pretty good probably because they are in fact quite bright.

>

>

But they don't do well in testing, at least in my experience.

Aislynn was IQ tested by UCLA and she didn't do too

well, and every year on the standardized tests she

doesn't do well. But she was hyperlexic, (not

retaining any information from it, only rote)

and did well on the reading parts of tests.

She maintains A's and B's in regular classes,

nuf said.

Don't let anyone tell you that an autistic child

does not need speech, or that their IQ indicates

they won't retain what they learn. That is bull$#!+

Barb

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> he said that there would be no point in starting ST when they had no speech at

all <

hi grace,

i realize you wrote this almost 2 weeks ago, but i just read it and noticed

there weren't too many replies. anyway, i needed to tell you that that is

complete CRAP!

speech is FAR more than just words. there are many many components of language,

with words being only the outcome.

i strongly suggest that you have your daughters reevaluated by someone who knows

what the hell they're talking about! if it turns out that they never have verbal

speech, they should still be taught HOW to communicate.

anyway, just an opinion of a mom whose had two kids in speech before they had

any " speech " .

love gina

" Isn't it wonderful how each of us on this earth was created just a little bit

different? " - Linus

" I gave up trying to understand people long ago. Now I just let them try to

understand me. " - Snoopy

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Grace,

I didn't see this post at all. Are you sure you don't live in Florida? That is

what the IEP team told me at Marilla's meeting just before we ran from St. Pete.

They said that her IQ scores indicated that she would never progress beyond

where she was so speech class is a waste of time.

I am sorry you had to hear that nonsense. Want me to go kick him or blow up his

office?

Smiles!

36 year old wife to , 41

Mom to:

na-14-NT

Marilla-8-Autistic

Sherman-7-Autistic

Greilyn-1, almost 2-NT (so far)

" It is never too late to start from where you are. The future is whatever you

want it to be. " Dr. , Port

Re: Speech Therapy - grace!

> he said that there would be no point in starting ST when they had no speech

at all <

hi grace,

i realize you wrote this almost 2 weeks ago, but i just read it and noticed

there weren't too many replies. anyway, i needed to tell you that that is

complete CRAP!

speech is FAR more than just words. there are many many components of

language, with words being only the outcome.

i strongly suggest that you have your daughters reevaluated by someone who

knows what the hell they're talking about! if it turns out that they never have

verbal speech, they should still be taught HOW to communicate.

anyway, just an opinion of a mom whose had two kids in speech before they had

any " speech " .

love gina

" Isn't it wonderful how each of us on this earth was created just a little bit

different? " - Linus

" I gave up trying to understand people long ago. Now I just let them try to

understand me. " - Snoopy

[Guest guest]

> I didn't see this post at all. Are you sure you don't live in Florida?

That is what the IEP team told me at Marilla's meeting just before we ran

from St. Pete. They said that her IQ scores indicated that she would never

progress beyond where she was so speech class is a waste of time.

Marilla? Isn't she, uh, highly intelligent, in fact, gifted? Okay, she has

autism and therefore she is a trifle odd, but how silly of them to say that.

I know Marilla is hyperlexic and actually the outcome for hyperlexic kids

tends to be pretty good probably because they are in fact quite bright.

Salli, mother to two hyperlexic kids

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> Don't let anyone tell you that an autistic child

> does not need speech, or that their IQ indicates

> they won't retain what they learn. That is bull$#!+

Actually, Barb, I agree SO much. My oldest son (who is fourteen) had an IQ

test done on him this year and his score was 109. Okay, but not remarkable.

Well, if you knew him you would think he was quite brilliant. He IS quite

brilliant. All his academic scores on the IQ test were quite high, with

quite a few above the 90th percentile. But he did astonishingly poorly in

some areas; Picture arranging was only in the 9th percentile; it has an

element of social judgment as you must arrange pictures in the order they

happened and many of the pictures involve people and situations. His coding

was bad because he has poor fine motor skills.

An online IQ test rated him at 165 and I actually think that as an academic

measure that is probably more accurate. The online tests just give you a

few types of questions and they tend to match up pretty well because most

people's abilities are pretty consistent. AS kids abilities are wildly

inconsistent.

I knew this before Enrique's IQ was tested and that was the first thing that

jumped out at me. He was tested by a psychologist's office that did not

specialize in autism but still I wondered how they could doubt he had AS

when they saw stuff like that. But they did.

Salli