Guest guest Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 I can " mirror " your site if you like Z At 10:15 PM 12/21/2004, Jane Meyerding intoned: >Today a man who works on the " in-house " (faculty/staff) newspaper >where I work called to ask if I'd be willing for him to do a " staff >profile " on me. About autism, of course. It sounds like a good >opportunity for advocacy/education (if I don't totally blow it and he >doesn't screw up the POV). So I said okay, as long as it wouldn't be >necessary for me to talk to him until after the first of the year. > >After he said that was fine and he would call me and we hung up, I >realized that one obvious thing for me to do is to suggest he take a >look at my web site first. And it would be natural to ask him to list >the URL in the article, too ( " for more information.... " ). Not that my >site is so informative, but it is mine (and therefore logical to >include) and it does have links to 's site and autistics.org and >neurodiversity.org et al. > >But then I realized: my site is on the university's server. The rules >say that staff are allowed to create a web site on the server as long >as the site contributes to the work they do at the U. > >Hmmmmm. So if I invite folks at the U to visit my web site, I'm > " busted " and kicked off the server. No more web site. (I hope they'd >give me a chance to back-up the pages on disk before removing them, >but there's no guarantee.) I think I *probably* would not be fired >for the offense of wasting server space and breaking the rule about >staff web sites. Unless the administration decided to make an example >out of me for some reason. > >Inconvenient. > >Jane > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 Zola wrote: >I can " mirror " your site if you like Thank you (I think), but I don't know what that means. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 > Hmmmmm. So if I invite folks at the U to visit my web site, I'm > " busted " and kicked off the server. No more web site. (I hope they'd > give me a chance to back-up the pages on disk before removing them, > but there's no guarantee.) I think I *probably* would not be fired > for the offense of wasting server space and breaking the rule about > staff web sites. Unless the administration decided to make an example > out of me for some reason. > Inconvenient. Yuck. Be sure to make backups of your website on your hard drive if you haven't already. If nobody has offered yet (I haven't yet read the other messages, it's late and my brain's being unusually OCDish about order of reading and writing and stuff) I'm sure autistics.org can provide you webspace if you end up needing it. I really hope you don't end up needing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Zola wrote: >I'll put up a copy of your website so you can give out a different URL That's a very kind offer, and I appreciate it. The problem is that I am so limited in my computer/web knowledge. The only way I know to maintain (update, edit) my site is with the U's set-up. And I have some prejudices, too. I " need " to be able to maintain it myself. I do not want the site to have ads of any kind. And I don't want the site to inflict pop-ups on visitors. It's possible I will have to overcome some of those prejudices. But I don't want to give up being able to maintain the site myself. That means I'd have to learn a new system, and I'd have to move the site to a place where I would have access to it. If anyone has the patience to tell me what my options are (keeping those specifications in mind), I will be grateful. In the meantime...will it be useful if I send myself (from my work computer to my home computer) copies of all the " source " files for the site? Would there be a problem with simply attaching the entire folder (containing all the separate html and txt files) to an email and sending it to myself that way. And if I did that, what would I do with it when I opened the email and attachment at this end? I don't actually have either a " floppy " or a CD on which to copy files at the moment. If I get one, what should I ask for at the store? Would it be a problem that the work computer is a PC and the home computer is a Mac (iBook)? If sending myself the files from work to home is not a feasible or sufficient back-up, should I accept Zola's kind offer and ask her to store the files for me? At work, my computer is not at all private. The computer person employed by the School where I work can (and does) wander in and out at will (and by request, when I have a problem). All files are backed up automatically on the School's server (which is tied in to the U's system), and I assume everyone on that server who cares to look will see the contents of my site stored there. It's fairly distinctive, with all those teddy-bear jpgs. <g> I do not want to lie about it and try to pretend it isn't there (e.g., using a relay URL to give the superficial impression that the site is elsewhere), partly because I do not lie willingly and partly because, as implied above, the lie would be so easily discovered. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 > That's a very kind offer, and I appreciate it. The problem is that > I am so limited in my computer/web knowledge. The only way I know > to maintain (update, edit) my site is with the U's set-up. And I > have some prejudices, too. I " need " to be able to maintain it > myself. I do not want the site to have ads of any kind. And I don't > want the site to inflict pop-ups on visitors. What is the U's set-up? Can you describe it? > It's possible I will have to overcome some of those prejudices. But > I don't want to give up being able to maintain the site myself. > That means I'd have to learn a new system, and I'd have to move the > site to a place where I would have access to it. > If anyone has the patience to tell me what my options are (keeping > those specifications in mind), I will be grateful. I don't know what the U's setup for making webpages is. There are a lot of WYSIWYG ( " what you see is what you get " ) webpage editors you can find, though. Some of them are attached to web browsers. For instance, I think Netscape and Mozilla generally have a web page making program somewhere in them. You might want to see if you can learn to use one of those. (This is unless you're writing the HTML by hand, in which case you can keep doing that.) Then you'd need to find a hosting site that went with your specifications. (Since I don't know quite what they are, I don't know which sites would meet those needs. I know that most free sites require ads, that autistics.org doesn't but that we don't offer anything beyond ftp uploads, and I don't know what Zola's site offers in terms of ads and uploads.) If you can learn to use a WYSIWYG webpage editor, then all you need to learn beyond that is how to upload onto the site you want. Many sites use or allow FTP, which means File Transfer Protocol. There are different FTP programs, but from mine what you'd do was type, from inside the directory you were using to store your website, (the sitename " jane.website.org " I'm just making up as an example): ftp jane.website.org It would say something like " Name: " , then you'd type " jane " . Then it would say something like " Password: " , and you'd type your password. Then you'd type things like: send index.html send Autreat.html send unf.html Each time you did that it would be sending the file you wanted to upload, and either adding a new file or writing it over whichever version of the file was already on your public website. If you wanted to *download* the files from your website, you wouldn't type send, you'd type get, so you'd do: get index.html get Autreat.html get unf.html And it would either add new files to your computer or write them over whichever versions of the files were already on your computer. Then when you were done you would type: quit But I don't know that Macs use the same software to handle FTP. But whatever the software is should be about that straightforward or even more so (some of the graphical ones make it so you barely have to type anything at all, you just store your passwords and addresses in the program once, then point and click and it sends the files). > In the meantime...will it be useful if I send myself (from my work > computer to my home computer) copies of all the " source " files for > the site? Would there be a problem with simply attaching the entire > folder (containing all the separate html and txt files) to an email > and sending it to myself that way. And if I did that, what would I > do with it when I opened the email and attachment at this end? I think you'd have to attach each individual file from the folder to the email, and send that. Then save the attached files to a folder on your home computer. > I don't actually have either a " floppy " or a CD on which to copy > files at the moment. If I get one, what should I ask for at the > store? Would it be a problem that the work computer is a PC and the > home computer is a Mac (iBook)? A CD would be readable by both (provided you have a CD-read-write drive at work -- a CD-ROM drive won't work) but a floppy probably wouldn't unless things have changed a lot (I'll defer to others on that). > If sending myself the files from work to home is not a feasible or > sufficient back-up, should I accept Zola's kind offer and ask her > to store the files for me? You should probably accept it for now, it's always good to have backups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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