Guest guest Posted November 28, 1999 Report Share Posted November 28, 1999 Please forgive my ingorance when I ask this...but being a newly diagnosed diabetic, I am still trying to learn what is best for me....The only help I have received from any DE was the recommended ADA list which I have been told by MANY people isnt good for me either....I am not a big veggie lover... so what can I eat now to have better control of my sugar level. I keep reading low carbs is good but what is the recommended allowance for that?? Please help anyway you can and sorry for the stupid questions...This just really has been hard for me to adjust too... Thanks Tonya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 1999 Report Share Posted November 28, 1999 Tonya, Please keep in mind that you are searching for what is best for YOU. The ADA list works for some, not for others. The same with low-carb. I follow the " Teri Nutrition Plan. " I was given the ADA list also. What works well for me is having modified it by taking my portions from their list, but choosing the foods from the list that also have lower carb contents. When you shop, read the labels. Even a small difference in carb content between different brands of the same product can add up to make a difference. Eventually, you will be following the " Tonya Nutrition Plan. " At the beginning, I tested more often also to see how different foods affected my bg levels. Diabetes is a YMMV disease. (Your mileage may vary) It will take a while to know what is best for YOU. Best of luck to you, Teri Re: Digest Number 471 > From: Rcy113@... > > Please forgive my ingorance when I ask this...but being a newly diagnosed > diabetic, I am still trying to learn what is best for me....The only help I > have received from any DE was the recommended ADA list which I have been told > by MANY people isnt good for me either....I am not a big veggie lover... so > what can I eat now to have better control of my sugar level. I keep reading > low carbs is good but what is the recommended allowance for that?? Please > help anyway you can and sorry for the stupid questions...This just really has > been hard for me to adjust too... > Thanks > Tonya > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 1999 Report Share Posted November 28, 1999 Tonya, The only stupid question is the one you don't ask. You'll get all kinds of diet info on this list. The most important part is to figure out what works for you. Low Carbing works for a lot of people on this list, myself included. Start by avoiding rice, potatoes, pasta, bread, and other obviously starchy foods. Eat more cheese if you're worried about calcium. Take a vitamin supplement, and drink lots of water. Read, Read, Read!! Dr. Bernstein's book, Dr. Atkin's book, Sugar Busters, The Zone, Protein Power, to name a few. Also, read up on DM. There's more to it than diet, and if you have other medical issues as well, diet can be difficult to work out. Most of all, stay with us. We are here to help you. Robin G. >From: Rcy113@... > >Please forgive my ingorance when I ask this...but being a newly diagnosed >diabetic, I am still trying to learn what is best for me....The only help I >have received from any DE was the recommended ADA list which I have been >told >by MANY people isnt good for me either....I am not a big veggie lover... so >what can I eat now to have better control of my sugar level. I keep >reading >low carbs is good but what is the recommended allowance for that?? Please >help anyway you can and sorry for the stupid questions...This just really >has >been hard for me to adjust too... >Thanks >Tonya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 1999 Report Share Posted November 28, 1999 Tonya: For some people, the ADA diet won't work. I am on a version of it given to me by one of the dietitians at Kaiser. It is modified in that I had to lose weight and she put me on an 1800 calorie version. My wife is on the 1200 calorie version of the same diet. She has lost 24 pounds and I have lost 48 pounds so far. And, my blood sugar level is in the normal range. HbA1c three months ago was 5.3, down from 9 in April when I was diagnosed. I am very happy with this diet and seem to be doing well on it. Since it is a healthy diet for normal people, it is very pragmatic to try it first and, if it doesn't work, try something else. If you can, go to see a dietitian and get a personalized version as they can modify it to suit your likes and dislikes. If I can be of any help, please e mail me with questions. Erwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 1999 Report Share Posted November 29, 1999 At 11:33 AM 11/28/99 -0500, you wrote: >From: Rcy113@... > >Please forgive my ingorance when I ask this...but being a newly diagnosed >diabetic, I am still trying to learn what is best for me....The only help I >have received from any DE was the recommended ADA list which I have been told You're not alone there, for sure! >by MANY people isnt good for me either....I am not a big veggie lover... so I hope you can learn to like veggies. Are there some you like better than others? Try sticking with them, first. >what can I eat now to have better control of my sugar level. I keep reading >low carbs is good but what is the recommended allowance for that?? Please The carbohydrate " allowance " consists mainly of eating most of your " daily servings " beginning with the second tier of the food pyramid - The fruits and veggies. Veggies should be more pronounced in the diet than fruit, which can be pretty high in carbs. Generally speaking, go *really* slow on the bread, pasta, rice, potatoes tier (1) of the pyramid. These starches can spike your blood glucose level and call out the insulin in high amounts. Be sure to add some protein and fat to all your meals. Both of these slow down your digestion, and help lower the glucose spiking. The fat helps keep you from feeling hungry between meals. The zone diet recommends a calorie ratio of 40% carbs, 30% protein, 30% fat. It maintains a balance of the major nutrients. To figure how many grams of each you need to eat , divide the carb and protein calories by 4 and the fat calories by 9. For example: A 1500 calorie diet would work out as follows -- 40% carbs - 1500 x 40% = 600 calories / 4 =150 grams of carb per day. 30% protein - 1500 x 30% = 450 calories / 4 = 112.5 grams protein per day. 30% fat --1500 x 30% = 450 calories / 9 = 50 grams fat per day. To figure meals and snacks, simply divide the grams by the number of meals - for starters, until you've had a chance to tread more and do some fine tuning. All this takes time. I personally find grams much easier to cope with that the diabetic " exchanges " which I find totally confusing and not very accurate as to amounts of nutrients. Also start reading labels - the Nutritional Analysis thing on all food packages. And purchase a food counter -- Corinne T. Netzger's book is quite extensive and thorough. Aside from that, read, read, read. A good place to start on the 'Net would be the Hypoglycemic Homepage Holland: <http://www.huizen2.dds.nl/~hypo/index.htm> . (Yeah, I know . You don't have hypo. However the site has tons of blood glucose information and scads of links to other sites, and diets and such. >help anyway you can and sorry for the stupid questions...This just really has >been hard for me to adjust too... They're *not* stupid questions. You are asking for information. No one is born knowing all the answers to all the questions. You just added a vast section of unknowns to your life - and life style. So-- ask away. That's what the group is here for. in Constable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 1999 Report Share Posted November 29, 1999 In a message dated 99-11-29 10:01:42 EST, you write: << personally find grams much easier to cope with that the diabetic " exchanges " which I find totally confusing and not very accurate as to amounts of nutrients. >> Let me add that a good food scale that weighs in grams is most helpful. I bought a little electronic one that weighs in both ounces and grams...uses AA batteries (which last forever)...it cost somewhere around $35 and has been a real lifesaver. , I too find the " exchange method " totally confusing and I'm thankful that I can control by counting carbs instead. It's sure easier! Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 1999 Report Share Posted November 29, 1999 At 03:16 PM 11/29/99 -0500, you wrote: >From: WHIMSY2@... >Let me add that a good food scale that weighs in grams is most helpful. I >bought a little electronic one that weighs in both ounces and grams...uses AA >batteries (which last forever)...it cost somewhere around $35 and has been a >real lifesaver. , I too find the " exchange method " totally confusing >and I'm thankful that I can control by counting carbs instead. It's sure >easier! Vicki I have a new digital scale that weighs in both grams and ounces. I usually use the ounce side, but occasionally use the gram side. It depends a bit on how the food portion is given. I really prefer weight to volume. Ex. a half cup of diced cantaloupe or strawberries. Are your dices the same as mine? It will take fewer chunks of large-diced item to fill the measure. Does this weigh more? --or less ? -- than small pieces which would be closer packed. The thing I " like " even better is a " slice " . How thin? How thick? How wide? How Long? C'mon. Gimme a break and tell me the ounces. Please. <G> This new scale (inexpensive - flea market) is an improvement on the used diet scale I started with. It was pickedup at a garage sale. A digital would be nice --- but. in Constable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 1999 Report Share Posted November 29, 1999 In a message dated 99-11-29 17:26:43 EST, you write: << The thing I " like " even better is a " slice " . How thin? How thick? How wide? How Long? C'mon. Gimme a break and tell me the ounces. Please. <G> >> That's the only thing I have against the Netzer book (outside of all the junk food they list)...they describe bananas or potatoes, etc. in INCHES instead of weight! (Just picture me with a tape measure measuring veggies trying to get correct carb count!) Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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