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Dear Dawn,

Hip Hip Horay for you! U are doing great, think of something to treat

yourself with. I bought some perfume that I had wanted for a while. After I

told Mark my good news he got me a T-shirt that says ....Green Beans are my

Friend .... Yes I do wear it..... Keep up the good work..

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In a message dated 5/14/99 9:46:20 AM Central Daylight Time,

dawnsue@... writes:

<< I've been thinking of

perhaps doing some volunteer PR work with the local diabetes centre at our

hospital - with the success I have had, I kind of feel the need to let

other diabetics know that they *can* take control of their health. >>

My sister is the Director of nurses in a small hospital and is still amazed

at the success I have had eating low-carb to control my diabetes. She also

suggested that I visit at her home and attend one of the diabetic support

groups that a friend of her daughter teaches and speak to them of mu success.

I have been hesitant to do this because it flies in the face of all that is

taught by the ADA. I do volunteer in one of our local hospital's but never

discuss low-carb except with friends that understand.

Maybe I am just afraid to speak to a group. Who knows!

Spillman

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In a message dated 5/16/99 6:30:08 AM Central Daylight Time,

hellerikecynthia@... writes:

<< I had never

eaten anything like that since I was diagnosed. My BG's this morning

were 114 which was the lowest I have had since being diagnosed. I am

wondering if some carbs is acceptable. I am very confused. I was eating

below 20 carbs a day previously. What do you think?

>>

,

When I have too many carbs for my body the blood sugar goes up and (this is

my experience) then takes a nose dive and winds up lower than my normal low.

Of course

YMMV (your milage may vary) I still am trying different things and checking

to see how they do on me. I seem to have a problem with extended (meaning

more than 2 hours) elevation of blood sugar. When it does go down like I

stated it goes lower than at start.

In other words I am a mess!

Spillman

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In a message dated 5/16/99 7:16:57 AM Central Daylight Time,

hellerikecynthia@... writes:

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So, how many carbs do you eat per day for example? >>

I try to most of the time stay as low as possible, yesterday was one of my

experiments on myself. :-) Don't do that very often at all. My last HbA1c

was 5.8 which was up from 5.6 the time before. As long as I don't experiment

too often it doesn't seem to knock my blood work off much. We are talking

from 20-60 grms of carbs. per day.

Spillman

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I just have one question. I have been eating low carb also (almost no

carb) and yesterday the doctor told me to have a slice of bread in the

morning which was 11 carbs. I did and it did not react too well with the

glouphage that I take so I had alot of stomach discomfort. I then ate an

eskimo bar which is made with nutrasweet and had more carbs. I had never

eaten anything like that since I was diagnosed. My BG's this morning

were 114 which was the lowest I have had since being diagnosed. I am

wondering if some carbs is acceptable. I am very confused. I was eating

below 20 carbs a day previously. What do you think?

Heller

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> From: Wlknshoes@...

>

> In a message dated 5/14/99 9:46:20 AM Central Daylight Time,

> dawnsue@... writes:

>

> << I've been thinking of

> perhaps doing some volunteer PR work with the local diabetes centre at our

> hospital - with the success I have had, I kind of feel the need to let

> other diabetics know that they *can* take control of their health. >>

>

> My sister is the Director of nurses in a small hospital and is still amazed

> at the success I have had eating low-carb to control my diabetes. She also

> suggested that I visit at her home and attend one of the diabetic support

> groups that a friend of her daughter teaches and speak to them of mu success.

> I have been hesitant to do this because it flies in the face of all that is

> taught by the ADA. I do volunteer in one of our local hospital's but never

> discuss low-carb except with friends that understand.

> Maybe I am just afraid to speak to a group. Who knows!

> Spillman

>

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So, how many carbs do you eat per day for example? I am confused as to

what is low carb amount for the day. According to Atkins, it is below 20

and according to the dietician it is around 80. Also, (and last question

because I am a pain in the tush) if you eat complex carbs like whole

grain, does this make your BG rise fast also? Thanks for you help.

Heller

Wlknshoes@... wrote:

>

> From: Wlknshoes@...

>

> In a message dated 5/16/99 6:30:08 AM Central Daylight Time,

> hellerikecynthia@... writes:

>

> << I had never

> eaten anything like that since I was diagnosed. My BG's this morning

> were 114 which was the lowest I have had since being diagnosed. I am

> wondering if some carbs is acceptable. I am very confused. I was eating

> below 20 carbs a day previously. What do you think?

> >>

> ,

> When I have too many carbs for my body the blood sugar goes up and (this is

> my experience) then takes a nose dive and winds up lower than my normal low.

> Of course

> YMMV (your milage may vary) I still am trying different things and checking

> to see how they do on me. I seem to have a problem with extended (meaning

> more than 2 hours) elevation of blood sugar. When it does go down like I

> stated it goes lower than at start.

> In other words I am a mess!

> Spillman

>

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As a rule of thumb, unless we keep our carb intake beneath 100 grams a day,

it doesn't seem to help our diabetes very much. But in order to *stay* in

ketosis, many people have to drop carb intake to 30-40 grams a day ... or

even lower. Dr. Atkins presents different phases, and it is only the

induction phase that is so low-carb. The ideal place to be for fat-burning

is right at the edge of ketosis - so back off carb intake until you pee pink

or purple, then you can add back a few. I can tell when I am in ketosis

because of the tingly feeling on my tongue.

, why did your doctor want you to eat a slice of bread in the a.m.?

The ice cream bar has some fat in it? The fat dampens and slows down our

reaction to carbohydrate intake. Some type 1's eat ice cream before bed.

Because it contains fats as well as carbohydrates, it seems to last long

enough to get them through the hypos that some of them experience in the

middle of the night/early in the morning.

Susie

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, you asked if complex carbs like whole grains make your glucose rise

fast as much as simple carbs. If you subtract the fiber grams from the total

carbohydrate grams, that net figure is a rough indication of how any

carbohydrate will impact you ... the higher the number, the more pills or

insulin a diabetic must take ... or the more one needs to exxercise (or, on

the other hand, the higher one's glucose and insulin levels will climb, with

the accumulation of more diabetic complications over time).

You can consult the Glycemic Index to see how various foods, eaten by

themselves (not in combination, as a meal would ordinarily be eaten) can

affect people. There are some people, including experts, who say it is

important for diabetics to factor in the Glycemic Index, while others

(including the American Diabetes Association) say that " a carb is a carb, "

and just to count your total carbohydrate intake (minus the fiber grams),

and try to space them out as much as possible throughout the day

.... " grazing. "

There was an exchange between a researcher who supports the Glycemic Index

from Toronto and researchers from Stanford University who do not in

" Diabetes Care " a few years ago. I can probably find copies of the debate if

you are interested.

Susie

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