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I was just wondering, are they real pushy with the ABI

at House? After Pat's post earlier, I just have the

chills here. , you are right on the money in

that the ABI is a very individual decision to make. I

would hope that since dr.s can't guarantee anything

with it yet that they would not push it too much. It

was extremely difficult for me to deal with the year

when I was implanted but received no benefit from

mine. At IU (Indianapolis), I felt no pressure either

way in my decision... but I was following a good

friend and his experience was reassuring. One thing I

think is interesting: I was implanted on my " bad

side " when I still had a bit of hearing on the other

side... I wonder if having that " natural " hearing

ability left inhibited the performance of the ABI.

They chalked my experience up to post-op swelling,

mainly. But now that I think about it, I did not

fully benefit until after my surgery on the other side

and experiencing complete deafness for a time.

I still think the ABI is like taking a kid and

teaching her/him how to hear and comprehend sounds...

that's why it takes so long to get used-to. (and why

people must talk one word at a time for me to fully

understand them) The researchers were thinking we

could train our brains to hear with it while we still

have some of that natural hearing left, but maybe we

can't. If this is the case, then waiting would seem

like the right thing to do. There's going to be a

transition period no matter what the decision. I do

not miss the stress of still having that one side of

itty-bitty hearing (and the hearing tests).

Gee, I really feel for all of you that are faced with

these decisions and the uncertainty! My Best,

--- VMTucker@... wrote:

> Dr. Brackmann continues to ask Craig about the

> implant, but he's opted not to

> do it at this point (he has one AN left). It's such

> a personal decision.

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I wouldn't say HEI folks are pushy, but they didn't seem to " get it " that

Craig could accept becoming deaf...period. He's had time to be able to

picture himself being deaf in the future, and that picture doesn't include

ABI at this point. His docs respect that but don't truly understand the

social/emotional/mental health component to one more procedure.

He's had so many surgeries not go the way they expected..that one more

potential complication doesn't feel right. This is such a personal decision,

as is many of the decisions in living with NF2.

Thanks,

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Hello Varlie,

It's me again. You've hit the nail on the head. HEI didnt' seem to get it

also that I couldn't see myself as being deaf. Wow! It's nice to know

someone knows where you're coming from out there.

Mark

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Subject: Re: HEI and ABI

Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 01:42:49 EDT

From: VMTucker@...

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I wouldn't say HEI folks are pushy, but they didn't seem to " get it " that

Craig could accept becoming deaf...period. He's had time to be able to

picture himself being deaf in the future, and that picture doesn't include

ABI at this point. His docs respect that but don't truly understand the

social/emotional/mental health component to one more procedure.

He's had so many surgeries not go the way they expected..that one more

potential complication doesn't feel right. This is such a personal

decision,

as is many of the decisions in living with NF2.

Thanks,

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Hi Mark,

It's amazing that doctors at HEI can have so many human beings who are

adjusting to hearing loss and the impact of that in their lives and the staff

is so focused on the medical model of things. Craig's dream is to talk with

pre-med students about the mental health aspects of all this so they can

become more empathic. Don't get me wrong, the HEI staff has been great, but

there's something missing, especially when it comes to personal decisions

like the ABI.

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Hello ,

I totally agree. The staff is great, but you're right, they could be more

empathetic about losing your hearing.

Mark

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Subject: Re: HEI and ABI

Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 02:08:45 EDT

From: VMTucker@...

Hi Mark,

It's amazing that doctors at HEI can have so many human beings who are

adjusting to hearing loss and the impact of that in their lives and the

staff

is so focused on the medical model of things. Craig's dream is to talk with

pre-med students about the mental health aspects of all this so they can

become more empathic. Don't get me wrong, the HEI staff has been great, but

there's something missing, especially when it comes to personal decisions

like the ABI.

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uuh no, I said " empathy " not " sympathy " .

Mark

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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 00:09:05 EDT

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hmmm if it was sympathy I wanted from someone it wud not be the docs I see

everyfew months it wud be family and friends but I dont want or need

sympathy

but mabey thats just me and they are there(docs) to help you not to feel

sorry for you

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Oh and if they're (the docs) are set to help you, wouldn't they provide all

the options for you instead of one?

Just a thought.

Mark

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hmmm if it was sympathy I wanted from someone it wud not be the docs I see

everyfew months it wud be family and friends but I dont want or need

sympathy

but mabey thats just me and they are there(docs) to help you not to feel

sorry for you

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hmmm if it was sympathy I wanted from someone it wud not be the docs I see

everyfew months it wud be family and friends but I dont want or need sympathy

but mabey thats just me and they are there(docs) to help you not to feel

sorry for you

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oh, , the last thing anyone wants is people

feeling sorry for them.

what we were talking about is that there is a lot more

to life than what goes on in the dr. office. It would

be helpful for doctors to have a sense of the

consequences of " treatment " on the total person...

that is, how they affect the life and not just how

they clear up a perceived medical problem.

.... just knowing that there is more to having an

operation or getting an implant than the mechanics of

it. We go through a lot and it has definitely helped

me mentally and physically (and personally, I think

our minds have a lot to do with how we handle

everything) to have a dr. that I feel considers more

than just what goes on in his office.

Different people will look for different things in

their doctor, though--

that's fine.

I would rather be considered as a person rather than

an object... not sympathy, but empathy (as others

already stated)--there is a big difference.

You are right, though--sympathy and pity do nothing.

hugs,

--- ADRENHLIN@... wrote:

> From: ADRENHLIN@...

>

> hmmm if it was sympathy I wanted from someone it wud

> not be the docs I see

> everyfew months it wud be family and friends but I

> dont want or need sympathy

> but mabey thats just me and they are there(docs) to

> help you not to feel

> sorry for you

>

>

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My doc gave me the options and I choose to go with him cuz he is good. I

think he helps me and of course he belives strongest in his methods of

treatment and if he is not comfortable with another that is his right and I

would preffer to stick with a doc who is comfy with what he is doing

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