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I tried checking DMV on the web, and founds lots for some states, but nothing

pertaining to PA, but maybe I need to use a different search engine; anyhow I

ttalked to my son in Missouri today, and is going to check out there

requirements, which seem fairly easy; however they punch a hole in your PA

license if you get a Missouri license! Not sure I want to do that yet? Guess I

need to talk to a lawyer. Marie

PeteEMT@... wrote:

> From: PeteEMT@...

>

> In a message dated 6/5/99 10:01:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mcdrew@...

> writes:

>

> << I might try Ohio; I wonder what proof of where you live you have to have?

> I have a friend that lives there, and she would let

> me use her address, but don't they ask you for something >>

>

> In NY you have to present 2 utility bills in your name as proof of residence

> or I think if you a minor it's your parents who have to show proof of

> residence.

> Many State DMV offices have Websites with all that info, you could check

> there.

>

> I think I'd probably find out about a Re-test or appeal the decision first,

> there must be some appeals process.

>

> Pete

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I need to find out HOW I got about fighting this; so I am going to try and call

DMV I guess; I still like the idea of shooting him to prove my eye hand

coordination is good! That was terrific! I may not be the world's best driver,

but I know I am a lot better than the people who driver around deep in

conversation on their cell phone! Marie

PDillon438@... wrote:

> From: PDillon438@...

>

> I've always had less than stellar vision and have had to get an eye doc to

> sign a form stating I could drive, thus getting me by the eye test. But this

> year I was asked to renew by mail, no mention of providing the form. I guess

> my good driving record the past 4 years (since last renewal) got me by that.

> I've never heard of a neuro " turning you in " though. I live in Nevada and my

> neuro lives in CA, so that may help. I guess NV doesn't have a dipstick law

> like that. I'm going to try nd keep driving as long s I think I can handle

> it. Hopefully at least a couple more years, but I am following in Jordan's

> path and my vision will fade. Maybe quickly. My point? If I had just let the

> DMV tell me " no " when I was 17 I would have missed out on over 15 years of

> driving. I'm not perfect, but no accidents that were my fault in my life. So

> fight the DMV. See another neuro who may disagree with the first.

>

> -Pat

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Thanks Jim, guess that leaves out Ohio; Marie

wrote:

> Marie

> You need to show a utility bill with your name and adress to get an OH.

> d.l.

> Jim

>

>

>

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> Subject: Re: Driving

> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 22:20:34 -0400

>

> Reply-To: NF2_Crewonelist

> To: NF2_Crewonelist

> References:

>

>

>

> I might try Ohio; I wonder what proof of where you live you have to have? I

have a friend that lives there, and she would let

> me use her address, but don't they ask you for something? Marie

>

> wrote:

>

> > Marie

> > You could get a D.L. in Ohio.I was told by my Dr.years ago my sight

> > was to poor to drive.Still,he nevr calle anybody,and I kept on driving.

> > I also have a friend who uses a walker,and has sever weakness in his

> > hands.He recenty went up to the D. M,V. and had his licence renewed ,no

> > problem.The only thing they said to him was " come on smile "

> > . Jim

> >

> >

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> >

> > Subject: Re: Driving

> > Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:39:10 -0400

> >

> > Reply-To: NF2_Crewonelist

> > To: NF2_Crewonelist

> > References:

> >

> >

> >

> > Could I get a license in Nevada? I may be asking if you and Pat have an

extra

> > bedroom! So far, shoot the doc is running ahead in the vote! Marie

> >

> > ADRENHLIN@... wrote:

> >

> > > From: ADRENHLIN@...

> > >

> > > hey Marie shoot him ok fine take the less regretful route move to Vegas

:)

> > > and his bright ideas

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I agree Lynn, my eyes were bad BEFORE surgery, and I limited myself severly as

far as driving was concerned; but it just drives me nuts, cause I see perfectly

now; yesterday If was with some Acoustic Neuroma Assoc. friends, several of whom

have MUCH worse balance than I, two who wear wrap around sunglasses cause they

cannot stand daylight, and THEY ALL drive!! I will fight, just have to find out

how! Marie

LynnBK@... wrote:

> From: LynnBK@...

>

> Hi Marie -

> Definitely can relate to your story. :(

> You can appeal. not fun -- but you can do it.

>

> I have been appealing, having Med tests, taking *refresher* courses in

> driving, since last Nov. All on top of having an almost perfect driving

> record. (not even parking tickets) One file person found an old medical

> record from after a surgery that recommended that I didn't drive. Well I

> don't drive right after surgery until I feel better.

> I've been driving with hand-controls for 20 years and totally deaf 10

> years. I do have to be super cautious. constantly scan my views and

> mirrors. Take a breAk from driving when I don't feel strong, etc As

> long as I honestly feel I can do it --I want to drive. This is So CA

> -- and that's the only way to get most places. :)

> Finally, last Wed I had another driving test and passed it . Now just

> have to wait for *paperwork*. Hang in there. Don't drive on **bad days*.

> Keep appealing. And of course, don't drive when you know you shouldn't.

> hugs,

> LynnBK

>

> Marie wrote:

> << Thought I would share my latest tale of woe and see if any

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THANK YOU! I'm thinking I may have to fight it; cause if you go out of State

and get license, they punch a hole, etc. in your license; so then when you get

a letter saying turn it in, and you send it, they see the hole and know you got

one somewhere else! I'm afraid they would then somehow notify your insurance

company. Marie

PeteEMT@... wrote:

> From: PeteEMT@...

>

> In a message dated 6/6/99 6:54:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mcdrew@...

> writes:

>

> << I tried checking DMV on the web, and founds lots for some states, but

> nothing

> pertaining to PA >>

>

> http://idt.net/~tagman71/

>

> Kinda obscure place to put it :x and It's not real impressive.. Don't know

> if it will have what you want on it but thats PA DMV Website

>

> Pete

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Marie,

I had major problems after my 2nd AN removal and had to spend about 6 months

in a therapy hospital. Although I did not lose my license, I had to go back

for a complete re-test (visual, written and road). I was give a time limit

for this or I would lose my license. I did have coordination problems but I

practiced driving (my parents did not like the idea). My girlfriend helped

me and we started in a parking lot! (driving and not doing what you may be

suspecting). When it came time for the tests, I knew my driving was good and

I passed all of them. I suspect some doctor turned me in too (Over here, it

is against the law if a doctor knows you have a problem that effects your

driving and does not inform the transport ministry). Because this was a

re-test for medical reasons, I was not charged for the tests. Although there

was a lot of frustration in setting everything up, I was happy to do it

because this proved I was not a hazard to pedestrians or other drivers.

(Actually, by the time of the test, I had pretty well known this and passing

a road test does NOT really say much about your driving skills). I would not

have been thrilled about this if I had to pay upwards of $300 to prove myself.

Perhaps the doctor is looking out for your best interest? An accident would

surely make this all worth while. However, it seems to me you bumped into

Dr. DoGood. I would like to suggest 3 options for you to consider:

1) It is clear that Dr. DoGood has no way of assessing your driving skills.

He is only making an assessment of your medical condition. Since he only saw

you after your operation, he is not in a position to comment on how your

condition has CHANGED. Perhaps you can get 2 doctors (family doctor and your

Neuro) who know you better to state in a letter your driving abilities are

not affected. You can then forward to the department of driving and make a

case that Dr. DoGood is going beyond HIS capabilities. Should this work,

rub it in to Dr. DoGood and send him any letters from the department.

2) Ask your department of driving to waive the fees since you are innocence

till proven guilty (I think this is how it usually works). State you are

willing to pay the fees should you fail your initial testing.

3) Come to Canada and get your D.L. here. I'm pretty sure our fees are lower

than $300 and you can benefit greatly on the exchange rate!

Whatever you do, I wish you luck!

(in Ontario, Canada - a kinder, gentler place to drive)

>

>

>Thought I would share my latest tale of woe and see if anyone has any

>suggestions; In the quest to get some questions answered, I went today

>to see a neurologist in Pgh. Another neurologist friend, who does not

>live in the area, recommended him. Well, guess what he said " I am going

>to have to turn you in to the Dept. of Motor Vehicles and they will take

>your license " - even tho I pleased with him, he said it was the law. I

>told him I have seen seven different docs in the last six months, and

>none of THEM had a problem! Granted I have a little visual problem, not

>bad at all; his comment was that I " didn't have good eye/hand

>coordination " .

>Like when is the last time you drove down the highway and touched your

>finger to your nose, etc???? And when I drive and see people with one

>hand on the phone glued to their ear, I get extremely upset! Anyhow, my

>only two alternatives seem to be to try and get a license in another

>state or to shoot the doctor. Comments?? Marie

>Hey Lynn, can you relate to this??

>

>

>

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Marie,

Who is this Dr. so I can make sure I don't go see him. What an ass he is!

Excuse my language people.

Mikey A in Pittsburgh

At 09:23 PM 6/4/99 -0400, you wrote:

>

>

>Thought I would share my latest tale of woe and see if anyone has any

>suggestions; In the quest to get some questions answered, I went today

>to see a neurologist in Pgh. Another neurologist friend, who does not

>live in the area, recommended him. Well, guess what he said " I am going

>to have to turn you in to the Dept. of Motor Vehicles and they will take

>your license " - even tho I pleased with him, he said it was the law. I

>told him I have seen seven different docs in the last six months, and

>none of THEM had a problem! Granted I have a little visual problem, not

>bad at all; his comment was that I " didn't have good eye/hand

>coordination " .

>Like when is the last time you drove down the highway and touched your

>finger to your nose, etc???? And when I drive and see people with one

>hand on the phone glued to their ear, I get extremely upset! Anyhow, my

>only two alternatives seem to be to try and get a license in another

>state or to shoot the doctor. Comments?? Marie

>Hey Lynn, can you relate to this??

>

>

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Marie,

Was that a neurologist or a proctologist?

Mikey

At 09:23 PM 6/4/99 -0400, you wrote:

>

>

>Thought I would share my latest tale of woe and see if anyone has any

>suggestions; In the quest to get some questions answered, I went today

>to see a neurologist in Pgh. Another neurologist friend, who does not

>live in the area, recommended him. Well, guess what he said " I am going

>to have to turn you in to the Dept. of Motor Vehicles and they will take

>your license " - even tho I pleased with him, he said it was the law. I

>told him I have seen seven different docs in the last six months, and

>none of THEM had a problem! Granted I have a little visual problem, not

>bad at all; his comment was that I " didn't have good eye/hand

>coordination " .

>Like when is the last time you drove down the highway and touched your

>finger to your nose, etc???? And when I drive and see people with one

>hand on the phone glued to their ear, I get extremely upset! Anyhow, my

>only two alternatives seem to be to try and get a license in another

>state or to shoot the doctor. Comments?? Marie

>Hey Lynn, can you relate to this??

>

>

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Marie,

If you lose your license you could hire me as your full time driver and

then I wouldn't have to move.

Mikey

(you do supply insurance and other benefits?)

At 10:20 PM 6/5/99 -0400, you wrote:

>

>

>I might try Ohio; I wonder what proof of where you live you have to have?

I have a friend that lives there, and she would let

>me use her address, but don't they ask you for something? Marie

>

> wrote:

>

>> Marie

>> You could get a D.L. in Ohio.I was told by my Dr.years ago my sight

>> was to poor to drive.Still,he nevr calle anybody,and I kept on driving.

>> I also have a friend who uses a walker,and has sever weakness in his

>> hands.He recenty went up to the D. M,V. and had his licence renewed ,no

>> problem.The only thing they said to him was " come on smile "

>> . Jim

>>

>>

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>>

>> Subject: Re: Driving

>> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:39:10 -0400

>>

>> Reply-To: NF2_Crewonelist

>> To: NF2_Crewonelist

>> References:

>>

>>

>>

>> Could I get a license in Nevada? I may be asking if you and Pat have an

extra

>> bedroom! So far, shoot the doc is running ahead in the vote! Marie

>>

>> ADRENHLIN@... wrote:

>>

>> > From: ADRENHLIN@...

>> >

>> > hey Marie shoot him ok fine take the less regretful route move to

Vegas :)

>> > and his bright ideas

>

>

>

>

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You know Marie, it just doesn't make much sense, they want to take away

your license because of hand eye coordination...but they keep renewing all

those people here in Pittsburgh who come to a full stop on the entrance

ramp to the freeways. Just doesn't make sense to me that they would renew

someone who can't coordinate MERGING into moving traffic. Life in the Burgh!

Mikey

At 07:37 PM 6/6/99 -0400, you wrote:

>

>

>I agree Lynn, my eyes were bad BEFORE surgery, and I limited myself

severly as

>far as driving was concerned; but it just drives me nuts, cause I see

perfectly

>now; yesterday If was with some Acoustic Neuroma Assoc. friends, several

of whom

>have MUCH worse balance than I, two who wear wrap around sunglasses cause

they

>cannot stand daylight, and THEY ALL drive!! I will fight, just have to

find out

>how! Marie

>

>LynnBK@... wrote:

>

>> From: LynnBK@...

>>

>> Hi Marie -

>> Definitely can relate to your story. :(

>> You can appeal. not fun -- but you can do it.

>>

>> I have been appealing, having Med tests, taking *refresher* courses in

>> driving, since last Nov. All on top of having an almost perfect driving

>> record. (not even parking tickets) One file person found an old

medical

>> record from after a surgery that recommended that I didn't drive. Well I

>> don't drive right after surgery until I feel better.

>> I've been driving with hand-controls for 20 years and totally deaf 10

>> years. I do have to be super cautious. constantly scan my views and

>> mirrors. Take a breAk from driving when I don't feel strong, etc

As

>> long as I honestly feel I can do it --I want to drive. This is So CA

>> -- and that's the only way to get most places. :)

>> Finally, last Wed I had another driving test and passed it . Now just

>> have to wait for *paperwork*. Hang in there. Don't drive on **bad

days*.

>> Keep appealing. And of course, don't drive when you know you shouldn't.

>> hugs,

>> LynnBK

>>

>> Marie wrote:

>> << Thought I would share my latest tale of woe and see if any

>

>

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Marie,

I rode with you all the way to NIH and thought you did just dandy. I can

testify in your behalf.

Mikey A

At 07:37 PM 6/6/99 -0400, you wrote:

>

>

>I agree Lynn, my eyes were bad BEFORE surgery, and I limited myself

severly as

>far as driving was concerned; but it just drives me nuts, cause I see

perfectly

>now; yesterday If was with some Acoustic Neuroma Assoc. friends, several

of whom

>have MUCH worse balance than I, two who wear wrap around sunglasses cause

they

>cannot stand daylight, and THEY ALL drive!! I will fight, just have to

find out

>how! Marie

>

>LynnBK@... wrote:

>

>> From: LynnBK@...

>>

>> Hi Marie -

>> Definitely can relate to your story. :(

>> You can appeal. not fun -- but you can do it.

>>

>> I have been appealing, having Med tests, taking *refresher* courses in

>> driving, since last Nov. All on top of having an almost perfect driving

>> record. (not even parking tickets) One file person found an old

medical

>> record from after a surgery that recommended that I didn't drive. Well I

>> don't drive right after surgery until I feel better.

>> I've been driving with hand-controls for 20 years and totally deaf 10

>> years. I do have to be super cautious. constantly scan my views and

>> mirrors. Take a breAk from driving when I don't feel strong, etc

As

>> long as I honestly feel I can do it --I want to drive. This is So CA

>> -- and that's the only way to get most places. :)

>> Finally, last Wed I had another driving test and passed it . Now just

>> have to wait for *paperwork*. Hang in there. Don't drive on **bad

days*.

>> Keep appealing. And of course, don't drive when you know you shouldn't.

>> hugs,

>> LynnBK

>>

>> Marie wrote:

>> << Thought I would share my latest tale of woe and see if any

>

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At 12:18 PM 6/7/99 -0400, ashley wrote:

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>

>You know Marie, it just doesn't make much sense, they want to take away

>your license because of hand eye coordination...but they keep renewing all

>those people here in Pittsburgh who come to a full stop on the entrance

>ramp to the freeways. Just doesn't make sense to me that they would renew

>someone who can't coordinate MERGING into moving traffic. Life in the Burgh!

>

>Mikey

Whay do you think I call it PittsHELL??????

Joanie

I had trouble getting myn license renewed the last time. I really think

I failed the eye test, but I was crying and the woman felt sorry for me. I

was on my way to PittsHell. My eye DR has a contract(?) with DMV so he can

give me the eye test next time instead of the lame test DMV gives.

>

Joanie

Some people live with rose colored glasses on and then take them off to put

black and white glasses on.

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The irritating part is, my vision is not the problem! Who knows someone who

can't drive because of their " eye/hand coordination " ? I mean what about people

who use hand controls?? And all the talk of out of state licenses seems useless

because apparently all the states are now tied together via our great computer

network! I did write to Priscilla Short and PLEAD for her intercession! Marie

Joan Emerick wrote:

>

>

> At 12:18 PM 6/7/99 -0400, ashley wrote:

> >

> >

> >You know Marie, it just doesn't make much sense, they want to take away

> >your license because of hand eye coordination...but they keep renewing all

> >those people here in Pittsburgh who come to a full stop on the entrance

> >ramp to the freeways. Just doesn't make sense to me that they would renew

> >someone who can't coordinate MERGING into moving traffic. Life in the Burgh!

> >

> >Mikey

>

> Whay do you think I call it PittsHELL??????

>

> Joanie

> I had trouble getting myn license renewed the last time. I really think

> I failed the eye test, but I was crying and the woman felt sorry for me. I

> was on my way to PittsHell. My eye DR has a contract(?) with DMV so he can

> give me the eye test next time instead of the lame test DMV gives.

> >

> Joanie

> Some people live with rose colored glasses on and then take them off to put

> black and white glasses on.

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Now there's a thought! We'll have to talk about those fringe benefits! Marie

ashley wrote:

>

>

> Marie,

> If you lose your license you could hire me as your full time driver and

> then I wouldn't have to move.

> Mikey

> (you do supply insurance and other benefits?)

>

> At 10:20 PM 6/5/99 -0400, you wrote:

> >

> >

> >I might try Ohio; I wonder what proof of where you live you have to have?

> I have a friend that lives there, and she would let

> >me use her address, but don't they ask you for something? Marie

> >

> > wrote:

> >

> >> Marie

> >> You could get a D.L. in Ohio.I was told by my Dr.years ago my sight

> >> was to poor to drive.Still,he nevr calle anybody,and I kept on driving.

> >> I also have a friend who uses a walker,and has sever weakness in his

> >> hands.He recenty went up to the D. M,V. and had his licence renewed ,no

> >> problem.The only thing they said to him was " come on smile "

> >> . Jim

> >>

> >>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >>

> >> Subject: Re: Driving

> >> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:39:10 -0400

> >>

> >> Reply-To: NF2_Crewonelist

> >> To: NF2_Crewonelist

> >> References:

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Could I get a license in Nevada? I may be asking if you and Pat have an

> extra

> >> bedroom! So far, shoot the doc is running ahead in the vote! Marie

> >>

> >> ADRENHLIN@... wrote:

> >>

> >> > From: ADRENHLIN@...

> >> >

> >> > hey Marie shoot him ok fine take the less regretful route move to

> Vegas :)

> >> > and his bright ideas

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dr. Berk at West Penn; yes, he has the personality of a dead frog; Doesn't

matter whether you can see, as long as your hand/eye coordination and balance

are good!! Oh the frustration! Marie

ashley wrote:

>

>

> Marie,

> Who is this Dr. so I can make sure I don't go see him. What an ass he is!

> Excuse my language people.

>

> Mikey A in Pittsburgh

>

> At 09:23 PM 6/4/99 -0400, you wrote:

> >

> >

> >Thought I would share my latest tale of woe and see if anyone has any

> >suggestions; In the quest to get some questions answered, I went today

> >to see a neurologist in Pgh. Another neurologist friend, who does not

> >live in the area, recommended him. Well, guess what he said " I am going

> >to have to turn you in to the Dept. of Motor Vehicles and they will take

> >your license " - even tho I pleased with him, he said it was the law. I

> >told him I have seen seven different docs in the last six months, and

> >none of THEM had a problem! Granted I have a little visual problem, not

> >bad at all; his comment was that I " didn't have good eye/hand

> >coordination " .

> >Like when is the last time you drove down the highway and touched your

> >finger to your nose, etc???? And when I drive and see people with one

> >hand on the phone glued to their ear, I get extremely upset! Anyhow, my

> >only two alternatives seem to be to try and get a license in another

> >state or to shoot the doctor. Comments?? Marie

> >Hey Lynn, can you relate to this??

> >

> >

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I wrote to the lady doc in Chg who recommended this guy, and I told her I will

drive to Chg and let her ride with me! Maybe then I can get HER to testify in

my

behalf! Marie

ashley wrote:

>

>

> Marie,

> I rode with you all the way to NIH and thought you did just dandy. I can

> testify in your behalf.

>

> Mikey A

>

> At 07:37 PM 6/6/99 -0400, you wrote:

> >

> >

> >I agree Lynn, my eyes were bad BEFORE surgery, and I limited myself

> severly as

> >far as driving was concerned; but it just drives me nuts, cause I see

> perfectly

> >now; yesterday If was with some Acoustic Neuroma Assoc. friends, several

> of whom

> >have MUCH worse balance than I, two who wear wrap around sunglasses cause

> they

> >cannot stand daylight, and THEY ALL drive!! I will fight, just have to

> find out

> >how! Marie

> >

> >LynnBK@... wrote:

> >

> >> From: LynnBK@...

> >>

> >> Hi Marie -

> >> Definitely can relate to your story. :(

> >> You can appeal. not fun -- but you can do it.

> >>

> >> I have been appealing, having Med tests, taking *refresher* courses in

> >> driving, since last Nov. All on top of having an almost perfect driving

> >> record. (not even parking tickets) One file person found an old

> medical

> >> record from after a surgery that recommended that I didn't drive. Well I

> >> don't drive right after surgery until I feel better.

> >> I've been driving with hand-controls for 20 years and totally deaf 10

> >> years. I do have to be super cautious. constantly scan my views and

> >> mirrors. Take a breAk from driving when I don't feel strong, etc

> As

> >> long as I honestly feel I can do it --I want to drive. This is So CA

> >> -- and that's the only way to get most places. :)

> >> Finally, last Wed I had another driving test and passed it . Now just

> >> have to wait for *paperwork*. Hang in there. Don't drive on **bad

> days*.

> >> Keep appealing. And of course, don't drive when you know you shouldn't.

> >> hugs,

> >> LynnBK

> >>

> >> Marie wrote:

> >> << Thought I would share my latest tale of woe and see if any

> >

> >

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I agree with you that the rules are unfair. I don't think there is any way

of making the process fair to everyone. Your view of " normal " driving will

be different that mine. I think people could decide for themselves if

everyone was responsible. However, not everyone is. How many people out

there continue to drive drunk? You and I view this as crazy but some people

still do it.

If we left medical problems (or problems in general) for individuals to

decide, we would have chaos on the roads (we have near-chaos as it is!).

Unfortunately, many people are underestimated by doctors who are too busy to

take a good look or do not fully understand the problem. This is likely what

happened to Marie. Also, assessing a persons ability to drive is a

subjective call and there is no fine line. One doctor will see a problem

where another doctor will not.

I really do believe that driving is a privilege and not a right. I had a

chance to examine the process first hand when I had to repeat my DL testing

in 1986. There were frustrations but I believe I was treated fairly.

I think it's fair to re-test Marie. What is totally unfair is that they are

saddling her with $300+ for the testing. There are faults with the system

and I'm sure it can be improved but you will never make it 'fair' for everyone.

>

>

>

>Loss of balance can affect your driving?? All cases are different, it is

>foolhardy to try to apply some sort of a yardstick. I have zero balance,

>both nerves were cut and I have no problem with driving (or walking or

>riding a motorcycle). In my opinion, each individual should be responsible

>to make the assessment themselves if they can drive or not. If I discover

>that my driving is not to par, why would I even want to drive? To maim or

>kill myself and possibly others ?

>

>These rules should be abolished, not only are they unfair they are

>impossible to enforce unless people are herded in for forced medical

>examinations.

>

> V.

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Way to go ! Couldn't have said it any better. I too have zero balance.

Still driving. When I feel that I'm unsafe to be on the road then, I will

stop driving.

Pat B. from San

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Thank you , that's how I felt; I could name five friends who have had a

unilateral AN and have lousy balance, and have no trouble driving! I agree,

it is foolhard to apply some sort of yardstick. I know see and walk better

than I have in two years; but even when my balance was worse, I still

downhill skiied! Marie

At 02:39 PM 6/9/99 -0400, you wrote:

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>Loss of balance can affect your driving?? All cases are different, it is

>foolhardy to try to apply some sort of a yardstick. I have zero balance,

>both nerves were cut and I have no problem with driving (or walking or

>riding a motorcycle). In my opinion, each individual should be responsible

>to make the assessment themselves if they can drive or not. If I discover

>that my driving is not to par, why would I even want to drive? To maim or

>kill myself and possibly others ?

>

>These rules should be abolished, not only are they unfair they are

>impossible to enforce unless people are herded in for forced medical

>examinations.

>

> V.

>

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