Re: driving

[Guest guest]

Hmm Shoot the Dr sounds like an option

just kidding of course

Pete

[Guest guest]

hey Marie shoot him ok fine take the less regretful route move to Vegas

and his bright ideas

[Guest guest]

Marie, they tried that on me 20yrs. ago ( but it was the dept. of motor

vehicles). I retook the test so there was nothing they could do. I knew I

would not have a problem passing it, but since I don't know you I would say

look in the mirror and tell yourself you can pass it. Then go take it and

laugh all you want at that Dr. If all else fails, run him over.

Bruce

[Guest guest]

Anyhow, my

> only two alternatives seem to be to try and get a license in another

> state or to shoot the doctor. Comments?? Marie

> Hey Lynn, can you relate to this??

>

> how about one of those out of country/international licences?- speedy

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Marie --

Running over your neurologist, or shooting him, would prove that your

hand-eye coordination is just fine.

Steve

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Marie

Run him over AFTER.How else will you gloat.

Jim

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Marie, Is this something your state does, this turning patients into the Dept.

of Transpotation?

Unbelievable.

States I know offhand where you would not have problems with a D.L., would be

Texas for sure and

Mississippi and Florida. My 84 year old grandmother is still driving (and she

shouldn't be) even

though her insurance company has dropped her and she has been in countless

accidents over the past

20 years. When she wipes out some family and herself the problem will be over I

guess. She doe

not even speak to my dad since his last of many attempts to take her keys away

and he has talked

to law enforcement there and everything. She is still dirving, bumping into

people and driving

away, pulling out in front of an 18 wheeler on an interstate and causing a

multi-car/truck

accident, etc. It is horrible. He would even diable her car and she would just

call a tow truck

who would take it straight to a mechanic. The only person benefiting from that

were the mechanic

and towe truck drivers and the people who could drive -free for about 12

hours. So you could

get a license in Mississippi for sure. Just watch out for my grandmother while

you are there.

She is the one driving/swerving down the road with her blinker on.

This is a serious problem for you and I am not making light. Someone suggested

that you retest

and I would certainly try that. Sorry you have run into this latest obstacle in

your fight to

stay independent and self-sufficient.

Take care,

Kim

P.S. Don't shoot the doctor. Prison food and decor is notoriously yucky.

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Marie Drew wrote:

> Thought I would share my latest tale of woe and see if anyone has any

> suggestions; In the quest to get some questions answered, I went today

> to see a neurologist in Pgh. Another neurologist friend, who does not

> live in the area, recommended him. Well, guess what he said " I am going

> to have to turn you in to the Dept. of Motor Vehicles and they will take

> your license " - even tho I pleased with him, he said it was the law. I

> told him I have seen seven different docs in the last six months, and

> none of THEM had a problem! Granted I have a little visual problem, not

> bad at all; his comment was that I " didn't have good eye/hand

> coordination " .

> Like when is the last time you drove down the highway and touched your

> finger to your nose, etc???? And when I drive and see people with one

> hand on the phone glued to their ear, I get extremely upset! Anyhow, my

> only two alternatives seem to be to try and get a license in another

> state or to shoot the doctor. Comments?? Marie

> Hey Lynn, can you relate to this??

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[Guest guest]

Well, I've seen a few people drive down the road while picking their

nose.Does that count?

[Guest guest]

Could I get a license in Nevada? I may be asking if you and Pat have an extra

bedroom! So far, shoot the doc is running ahead in the vote! Marie

ADRENHLIN@... wrote:

> From: ADRENHLIN@...

>

> hey Marie shoot him ok fine take the less regretful route move to Vegas

> and his bright ideas

[Guest guest]

He is telling me I have to go for a " Drivers Evaluation " which costs $366.00

and insurance will not pay; I am confident I could pass a test, but he complain

is not vision but " hand-eye coordination:==when is the last time you drove down

the road touching your finger to your nose?? I guess I need to talk to a

lawyer..but before or after I run him over??? Marie

BES54@... wrote:

> From: BES54@...

>

> Marie, they tried that on me 20yrs. ago ( but it was the dept. of motor

> vehicles). I retook the test so there was nothing they could do. I knew I

> would not have a problem passing it, but since I don't know you I would say

> look in the mirror and tell yourself you can pass it. Then go take it and

> laugh all you want at that Dr. If all else fails, run him over.

>

> Bruce

[Guest guest]

I never heard of an " out of country/international licenses " --could you

provide any details?? Thanks Marie

Jim Bless wrote:

>

>

> Anyhow, my

> > only two alternatives seem to be to try and get a license in another

> > state or to shoot the doctor. Comments?? Marie

> > Hey Lynn, can you relate to this??

> >

> > how about one of those out of country/international licences?- speedy

>

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Marie

You could get a D.L. in Ohio.I was told by my Dr.years ago my sight

was to poor to drive.Still,he nevr calle anybody,and I kept on driving.

I also have a friend who uses a walker,and has sever weakness in his

hands.He recenty went up to the D. M,V. and had his licence renewed ,no

problem.The only thing they said to him was " come on smile "

.. Jim

[Guest guest]

Stev

I don't know about that.Most Doctors have such big heads,how could she

possiable miss

Jim

[Guest guest]

Yea shoot the dock. they did the same to me soon as couldn't use my hands & legs

they called in my licence ...

like I might steel the car and try & drive.......

NF2_Crewonelist wrote:

>

>

> Could I get a license in Nevada? I may be asking if you and Pat have an extra

> bedroom! So far, shoot the doc is running ahead in the vote! Marie

>

> ADRENHLIN@... wrote:

>

> > From: ADRENHLIN@...

> >

> > hey Marie shoot him ok fine take the less regretful route move to Vegas

> > and his bright ideas

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 99-06-05 11:33:58 EDT, you write:

<< Just watch out for my grandmother while you are there.

She is the one driving/swerving down the road with her blinker on. >>

Kim,

Actually, that might be my husband's 80-something-year-old grandmother. :-)

(She lives in MS too. Eeek!)

Sandi

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In a message dated 6/5/99 9:57:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mcdrew@...

writes:

<< Just watch out for my grandmother while you are there.

> She is the one driving/swerving down the road with her blinker on. >>

I think Jerry Seinfeld said this is known as an " Eventual Left " they can

turn any time this week

Pete

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/5/99 10:01:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mcdrew@...

writes:

<< I might try Ohio; I wonder what proof of where you live you have to have?

I have a friend that lives there, and she would let

me use her address, but don't they ask you for something >>

In NY you have to present 2 utility bills in your name as proof of residence

or I think if you a minor it's your parents who have to show proof of

residence.

Many State DMV offices have Websites with all that info, you could check

there.

I think I'd probably find out about a Re-test or appeal the decision first,

there must be some appeals process.

Pete

[Guest guest]

I've always had less than stellar vision and have had to get an eye doc to

sign a form stating I could drive, thus getting me by the eye test. But this

year I was asked to renew by mail, no mention of providing the form. I guess

my good driving record the past 4 years (since last renewal) got me by that.

I've never heard of a neuro " turning you in " though. I live in Nevada and my

neuro lives in CA, so that may help. I guess NV doesn't have a dipstick law

like that. I'm going to try nd keep driving as long s I think I can handle

it. Hopefully at least a couple more years, but I am following in Jordan's

path and my vision will fade. Maybe quickly. My point? If I had just let the

DMV tell me " no " when I was 17 I would have missed out on over 15 years of

driving. I'm not perfect, but no accidents that were my fault in my life. So

fight the DMV. See another neuro who may disagree with the first.

-Pat

[Guest guest]

I never heard of an " out of country/international licenses " --could you

> provide any details?? Thanks Marie

been looking for it myself, it was deleted. Last I remember it cost 100

bucks for life time licence- ill try to find more- speedy

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Thanks for the tips,, yes, apparently PA is fairly strict about this; I think it

is a law, but most

docs kind of just warn the patient, but I happened to run across a " strictly by

the book: type of guy;

I am going to call DMV and see if I can retest, but I doubt it; Thanks for the

tip about Fla; I have a

friend there, and it might be cheaper to fly down than to get a driver's

evaluation! Guess we have

both extremes, with PA where I can now see fine, and Missippi, where anyone

drives!! Marie

Kim wrote:

>

>

> Marie, Is this something your state does, this turning patients into the Dept.

of Transpotation?

> Unbelievable.

>

> States I know offhand where you would not have problems with a D.L., would be

Texas for sure and

> Mississippi and Florida. My 84 year old grandmother is still driving (and she

shouldn't be) even

> though her insurance company has dropped her and she has been in countless

accidents over the past

> 20 years. When she wipes out some family and herself the problem will be over

I guess. She doe

> not even speak to my dad since his last of many attempts to take her keys away

and he has talked

> to law enforcement there and everything. She is still dirving, bumping into

people and driving

> away, pulling out in front of an 18 wheeler on an interstate and causing a

multi-car/truck

> accident, etc. It is horrible. He would even diable her car and she would

just call a tow truck

> who would take it straight to a mechanic. The only person benefiting from

that were the mechanic

> and towe truck drivers and the people who could drive -free for about 12

hours. So you could

> get a license in Mississippi for sure. Just watch out for my grandmother

while you are there.

> She is the one driving/swerving down the road with her blinker on.

>

> This is a serious problem for you and I am not making light. Someone

suggested that you retest

> and I would certainly try that. Sorry you have run into this latest obstacle

in your fight to

> stay independent and self-sufficient.

>

> Take care,

> Kim

>

> P.S. Don't shoot the doctor. Prison food and decor is notoriously yucky.

> __________________

> Marie Drew wrote:

> > Thought I would share my latest tale of woe and see if anyone has any

> > suggestions; In the quest to get some questions answered, I went today

> > to see a neurologist in Pgh. Another neurologist friend, who does not

> > live in the area, recommended him. Well, guess what he said " I am going

> > to have to turn you in to the Dept. of Motor Vehicles and they will take

> > your license " - even tho I pleased with him, he said it was the law. I

> > told him I have seen seven different docs in the last six months, and

> > none of THEM had a problem! Granted I have a little visual problem, not

> > bad at all; his comment was that I " didn't have good eye/hand

> > coordination " .

> > Like when is the last time you drove down the highway and touched your

> > finger to your nose, etc???? And when I drive and see people with one

> > hand on the phone glued to their ear, I get extremely upset! Anyhow, my

> > only two alternatives seem to be to try and get a license in another

> > state or to shoot the doctor. Comments?? Marie

> > Hey Lynn, can you relate to this??

>

> _________________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I might try Ohio; I wonder what proof of where you live you have to have? I

have a friend that lives there, and she would let

me use her address, but don't they ask you for something? Marie

wrote:

> Marie

> You could get a D.L. in Ohio.I was told by my Dr.years ago my sight

> was to poor to drive.Still,he nevr calle anybody,and I kept on driving.

> I also have a friend who uses a walker,and has sever weakness in his

> hands.He recenty went up to the D. M,V. and had his licence renewed ,no

> problem.The only thing they said to him was " come on smile "

> . Jim

>

>

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>

> Subject: Re: Driving

> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:39:10 -0400

>

> Reply-To: NF2_Crewonelist

> To: NF2_Crewonelist

> References:

>

>

>

> Could I get a license in Nevada? I may be asking if you and Pat have an extra

> bedroom! So far, shoot the doc is running ahead in the vote! Marie

>

> ADRENHLIN@... wrote:

>

> > From: ADRENHLIN@...

> >

> > hey Marie shoot him ok fine take the less regretful route move to Vegas

> > and his bright ideas

[Guest guest]

Not positive about this myself since I haven't had an international

driver's license since my German days; but I think you can apply through

any travel agent to get one. They really are for driving in foreign

countries--meaning if you go to Europe or some place and plan to rent a

car; you have to have an international driver's license. You have to

KNOW all the international road signs--not sure what else. (The military

test to drive in Germany required all that and a lot more.) It was not

all that expensive, either--$11 comes to mind but you do need a passport

picture to go with it. As a citizen, I don't think you can use it as a

driving license here. Sorry, my friendly travel agent is closed for the

weekend! ie

> I never heard of an " out of country/international licenses " --could you

> > provide any details?? Thanks Marie

>

> been looking for it myself, it was deleted. Last I remember it cost 100

> bucks for life time licence- ill try to find more- speedy

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie -

Definitely can relate to your story.

You can appeal. not fun -- but you can do it.

I have been appealing, having Med tests, taking *refresher* courses in

driving, since last Nov. All on top of having an almost perfect driving

record. (not even parking tickets) One file person found an old medical

record from after a surgery that recommended that I didn't drive. Well I

don't drive right after surgery until I feel better.

I've been driving with hand-controls for 20 years and totally deaf 10

years. I do have to be super cautious. constantly scan my views and

mirrors. Take a breAk from driving when I don't feel strong, etc As

long as I honestly feel I can do it --I want to drive. This is So CA

-- and that's the only way to get most places.

Finally, last Wed I had another driving test and passed it . Now just

have to wait for *paperwork*. Hang in there. Don't drive on **bad days*.

Keep appealing. And of course, don't drive when you know you shouldn't.

hugs,

LynnBK

Marie wrote:

<< Thought I would share my latest tale of woe and see if anyone has any

suggestions; In the quest to get some questions answered, I went today

to see a neurologist in Pgh. Another neurologist friend, who does not

live in the area, recommended him. Well, guess what he said " I am going

to have to turn you in to the Dept. of Motor Vehicles and they will take

your license " - even tho I pleased with him, he said it was the law. I

told him I have seen seven different docs in the last six months, and

none of THEM had a problem! Granted I have a little visual problem, not

bad at all; his comment was that I " didn't have good eye/hand

coordination " .

Like when is the last time you drove down the highway and touched your

finger to your nose, etc???? And when I drive and see people with one

hand on the phone glued to their ear, I get extremely upset! Anyhow, my

only two alternatives seem to be to try and get a license in another

state or to shoot the doctor. Comments?? Marie

Hey Lynn, can you relate to this?? >>

[Guest guest]

Marie

You need to show a utility bill with your name and adress to get an OH.

d.l.

Jim

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/6/99 6:54:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mcdrew@...

writes:

<< I tried checking DMV on the web, and founds lots for some states, but

nothing

pertaining to PA >>

http://idt.net/~tagman71/

Kinda obscure place to put it :x and It's not real impressive.. Don't know

if it will have what you want on it but thats PA DMV Website

Pete