Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 I was just reading todays menu at the LWI Restaurant Looks to me like LTW has served up a steaming plate of horse crap And that has tossed it in LTW's face. What a stinky mess? And, I don't see a problem with that " Unless you are craving vegtables when they are served, your work is not done " (T) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 " Unless you are craving vegtables when they are served, your work is not done " *****I don't agree with this. I am reminded of Schopenhauer's comment which has tested valid in my experience: " A man can do what he wants but not want what he wants. " We crave what we crave -- we don't choose what we crave. That which we crave arrives for us, preformed, wrapped, all prepared. This was a sticking point for me early on in my " education " of the language of BK (about three years ago), and I'll share with you how it was resolved. I was confused by the " loving what is served " scenario posed in LWI, and I raised the issue here on this list. An " enlightening " dialogue ensued. Several people supplied input (amongst them I recall Steve D. and lovetheworkofbk who I believe, at that point, went by the name zenbear??). Arising out of those dialogues the notion of " Loving What Is " is now understood to mean, more accurately, ACCEPTING what is. That Acceptance -- when it happens -- provides the realization of " the peace that passeth understanding. " That peace is always here, just not necessarily visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 We crave what we crave, right SO what is the roll of doing the work? Are you a fatalic person? If you think that you want something you don't have (chiken) You can question your thought, right? Or you are not the one who does the work either? -- Re: Who is the confuses MAN who ordered Roast chicken? " Unless you are craving vegtables when they are served, your work is not done " *****I don't agree with this. I am reminded of Schopenhauer's comment which has tested valid in my experience: " A man can do what he wants but not want what he wants. " We crave what we crave -- we don't choose what we crave. That which we crave arrives for us, preformed, wrapped, all prepared. This was a sticking point for me early on in my " education " of the language of BK (about three years ago), and I'll share with you how it was resolved. I was confused by the " loving what is served " scenario posed in LWI, and I raised the issue here on this list. An " enlightening " dialogue ensued. Several people supplied input (amongst them I recall Steve D. and lovetheworkofbk who I believe, at that point, went by the name zenbear??). Arising out of those dialogues the notion of " Loving What Is " is now understood to mean, more accurately, ACCEPTING what is. That Acceptance -- when it happens -- provides the realization of " the peace that passeth understanding. " That peace is always here, just not necessarily visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Dear Andy, For me, this is the splitting of hairs and the arguing of semantics? I read Tami's post and to me it says " Loving What Is " , and you read it and get something different. Simply a matter of perception and what can we really know for sure? Love, steve D. > > " Unless you are craving vegtables when they are served, your work is > not done " > > *****I don't agree with this. I am reminded of Schopenhauer's comment > which has tested valid in my experience: > > " A man can do what he wants but not want what he wants. " > > We crave what we crave -- we don't choose what we crave. > > That which we crave arrives for us, preformed, wrapped, all prepared. > > This was a sticking point for me early on in my " education " of the > language of BK (about three years ago), and I'll share with you how it > was resolved. > > I was confused by the " loving what is served " scenario posed in LWI, > and I raised the issue here on this list. An " enlightening " dialogue > ensued. Several people supplied input (amongst them I recall Steve D. > and lovetheworkofbk who I believe, at that point, went by the name > zenbear??). > > Arising out of those dialogues the notion of " Loving What Is " is now > understood to mean, more accurately, ACCEPTING what is. That > Acceptance -- when it happens -- provides the realization of " the > peace that passeth understanding. " That peace is always here, just > not necessarily visible. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 **or, i would say it this way ~ which is my understanding of this scenario in LWI: i have ordered prime rib, vegetables are served. i love that this has happened...and it doesnt prevent me from pointing out to the waiter that i ordered prime rib and would like to be served that...is it possible? lets see what happens! > > " Unless you are craving vegtables when they are served, your work is > not done " > > *****I don't agree with this. I am reminded of Schopenhauer's comment > which has tested valid in my experience: > > " A man can do what he wants but not want what he wants. " > > We crave what we crave -- we don't choose what we crave. > > That which we crave arrives for us, preformed, wrapped, all prepared. > > This was a sticking point for me early on in my " education " of the > language of BK (about three years ago), and I'll share with you how it > was resolved. > > I was confused by the " loving what is served " scenario posed in LWI, > and I raised the issue here on this list. An " enlightening " dialogue > ensued. Several people supplied input (amongst them I recall Steve D. > and lovetheworkofbk who I believe, at that point, went by the name > zenbear??). > > Arising out of those dialogues the notion of " Loving What Is " is now > understood to mean, more accurately, ACCEPTING what is. That > Acceptance -- when it happens -- provides the realization of " the > peace that passeth understanding. " That peace is always here, just > not necessarily visible. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 We crave what we crave, right SO what is the roll of doing the work? *****Perhaps one craves doing The Work? :-))) Seriously, though, the role of doing The Work is doing the Work. If you want a story about it, ask someone. Are you a fatalic person? *****What is this type of person? If you think that you want something you don't have (chiken) You can question your thought, right? ****IF.........IF.....the thought to question (to do The Work), arises, yes, one might question the thought. It is a potential outcome. Or you are not the one who does the work either? *****I'll let your practice answer that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 >Or you are not the one who does the work either? *****I'll let your practice answer that one. Ok I will practice. My answer is, I don't know Do you have a better answer???????? T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 > > > > " Unless you are craving vegtables when they are served, your work > is > > not done " > > > > *****I don't agree with this. I am reminded of Schopenhauer's > comment > > which has tested valid in my experience: > > > > " A man can do what he wants but not want what he wants. " > > > > We crave what we crave -- we don't choose what we crave. > > > > That which we crave arrives for us, preformed, wrapped, all > prepared. > > > > This was a sticking point for me early on in my " education " of the > > language of BK (about three years ago), and I'll share with you > how it > > was resolved. > > > > I was confused by the " loving what is served " scenario posed in > LWI, > > and I raised the issue here on this list. An " enlightening " > dialogue > > ensued. Several people supplied input (amongst them I recall > Steve D. > > and lovetheworkofbk who I believe, at that point, went by the name > > zenbear??). > > > > Arising out of those dialogues the notion of " Loving What Is " is > now > > understood to mean, more accurately, ACCEPTING what is. That > > Acceptance -- when it happens -- provides the realization of " the > > peace that passeth understanding. " That peace is always here, just > > not necessarily visible. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 > > > > > > " Unless you are craving vegtables when they are served, your work > > is > > > not done " > > > > > > *****I don't agree with this. I am reminded of Schopenhauer's > > comment > > > which has tested valid in my experience: > > > > > > " A man can do what he wants but not want what he wants. " > > > > > > We crave what we crave -- we don't choose what we crave. > > > > > > That which we crave arrives for us, preformed, wrapped, all > > prepared. > > > > > > This was a sticking point for me early on in my " education " of the > > > language of BK (about three years ago), and I'll share with you > > how it > > > was resolved. > > > > > > I was confused by the " loving what is served " scenario posed in > > LWI, > > > and I raised the issue here on this list. An " enlightening " > > dialogue > > > ensued. Several people supplied input (amongst them I recall > > Steve D. > > > and lovetheworkofbk who I believe, at that point, went by the name > > > zenbear??). > > > > > > Arising out of those dialogues the notion of " Loving What Is " is > > now > > > understood to mean, more accurately, ACCEPTING what is. That > > > Acceptance -- when it happens -- provides the realization of " the > > > peace that passeth understanding. " That peace is always here, just > > > not necessarily visible. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 ** Hi Steve, > > **or, i would say it this way ~ which is my understanding of this > scenario in LWI: i have ordered prime rib, vegetables are served. > i love that this has happened...and it doesnt prevent me from > pointing out to the waiter that i ordered prime rib and would like > to be served that...is it possible? lets see what happens! ----->Please clarify, or expand on, what you mean when you say that you " love that [you were served a dish that you didn't desire]. " I'm curious about the use of the word " love. " In my lexicon, the use of the word " love " points towards " liking or desiring enthusiastically " (source: Dictionary.com). ** yes, that's an accurate definition. If I'm desiring prime rib, and vegetables are served, that does not enthusiastically match the desire present, so the reaction will probably not be one of " love. " (I'll probably be pissed off, actually, if past experience is any guide! Hahaha!!!.....certainly there will be disappointment, seeing as I am a person who orders something that is desired.) ** well, unless you believe a story that that's not what should happen... it's fascinating! ** I thought I wanted prime rib, and not getting it is even BETTER! ** When I don't get what I think I want, and it hurts, I can see what is left. ** And if there's nothing left... Oh God. ** Love, ** --------------------------------- Sie denken an Ihre Sicherheit? Das tun wir auch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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