Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 I am using Office Ally PM to submit claims for free. It works really well. No complaints. Submitting claims is super easy. What takes time is dealing with rejected ones. I have only had a few...about 50% were my fault. There is certainly a learning curve. The other 50% have been for a variety of reasons...eg had a mother of a patient give me the wrong birthday for her child. I do not have any Medicare patients at this time...still waiting to be credentialed since changing offices. Whenever I haved called Office Ally for help, they have always been very accessible and helpful. Michele Glen Mills, PA To: Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 3:37:52 PMSubject: Re: patient portal I'm using Updox for a portal as well, primarily because it is cheap and includes by faxing. Seems to work ok and my few patients who are using it seem to like it. No structured e-visits with that.If you use the Office Ally "Practice Mate" PM module, which is free, I think you can submit charges through their clearing house for free, unless you have a large percentage of Medicare patients... they then charge you a monthly fee, but I think it is only $15. Anyone else using Office Ally to submit claims? Dr. Chu?Jack>> Hi All, > I started an IMP in late Sept. I'm curious as to how many are using a patient portal with secure email messaging and whether that has been helpful in improving efficiency. A well designed patient portal seems to be a differentiating feature of some of the lower end EHRs, ie cost as well. > > > Also, those of you using Office Ally...do you use their billing service, if so, what is the percentage they charge? I'm curious b/c I have been doing my own billing and with 15 pts, the OA rep wasn't sure how much they would charge. > > Thanks all. > > Madhavi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 I am using office ally as a clearinghouse. I have Lytec as my practice management software. I went to them a few months ago when my prior clearinghouse was taken over by another company that wanted several hundred dollars/month. Office Ally is free, as long as less than 50% Medicare claims. I met the owner at a recent Primed and asked him how he can do that. He said the commercial plans pay him for each claim that goes through Office Ally but Medicare does not. I am starting to look at their EHR for $30/month. I really dislike with this whole thing that when we get an EHR or a practice management software, we are almost betrothed to them. They can jack up the prices or get taken over by another company and then you have to invest more time/money to switch. It really goes against our American market system. For instance, if Staples raises their prices, I can shop at WB Mason or Office Depot and am not stuck always with Staples. BUt if you spend thousands of dollars on an EMR and next year they decide the support cost has to go up 200%, you either pay up or spend more time/money to get another one> Who can really switch EMR's every year??? My current EMR, Medinotes, was taken over by Ecclipsys a year ago and that in turn was taken over by Allscripts a few months ago! Thanks for letting me vent! Margaret Coughlan Re: patient portal  I'm using Updox for a portal as well, primarily because it is cheap and includes by faxing. Seems to work ok and my few patients who are using it seem to like it. No structured e-visits with that. If you use the Office Ally " Practice Mate " PM module, which is free, I think you can submit charges through their clearing house for free, unless you have a large percentage of Medicare patients... they then charge you a monthly fee, but I think it is only $15. Anyone else using Office Ally to submit claims? Dr. Chu? Jack > > Hi All, > I started an IMP in late Sept. I'm curious as to how many are using a patient portal with secure email messaging and whether that has been helpful in improving efficiency. A well designed patient portal seems to be a differentiating feature of some of the lower end EHRs, ie cost as well. > > > Also, those of you using Office Ally...do you use their billing service, if so, what is the percentage they charge? I'm curious b/c I have been doing my own billing and with 15 pts, the OA rep wasn't sure how much they would charge. > > Thanks all. > > Madhavi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Wait just a minute. Office Ally gets paid by the commercial insurer to process claims? So, BCBS or XYZ commercial payer gives OA a...?kickback!? But medicare does not/cannot give OA a kickback? This has a bad smell. I am using office ally as a clearinghouse. I have Lytec as my practice management software. I went to them a few months ago when my prior clearinghouse was taken over by another company that wanted several hundred dollars/month. Office Ally is free, as long as less than 50% Medicare claims. I met the owner at a recent Primed and asked him how he can do that. He said the commercial plans pay him for each claim that goes through Office Ally but Medicare does not.I am starting to look at their EHR for $30/month. I really dislike with this whole thing that when we get an EHR or a practice management software, we are almost betrothed to them. They can jack up the prices or get taken over by another company and then you have to invest more time/money to switch. It really goes against our American market system. For instance, if Staples raises their prices, I can shop at WB Mason or Office Depot and am not stuck always with Staples. BUt if you spend thousands of dollars on an EMR and next year they decide the support cost has to go up 200%, you either pay up or spend more time/money to get another one> Who can really switch EMR's every year???My current EMR, Medinotes, was taken over by Ecclipsys a year ago and that in turn was taken over by Allscripts a few months ago!Thanks for letting me vent!Margaret Coughlan Re: patient portal I'm using Updox for a portal as well, primarily because it is cheap and includes by faxing. Seems to work ok and my few patients who are using it seem to like it. No structured e-visits with that. If you use the Office Ally "Practice Mate" PM module, which is free, I think you can submit charges through their clearing house for free, unless you have a large percentage of Medicare patients... they then charge you a monthly fee, but I think it is only $15. Anyone else using Office Ally to submit claims? Dr. Chu? Jack > > Hi All, > I started an IMP in late Sept. I'm curious as to how many are using a patient portal with secure email messaging and whether that has been helpful in improving efficiency. A well designed patient portal seems to be a differentiating feature of some of the lower end EHRs, ie cost as well. > > > Also, those of you using Office Ally...do you use their billing service, if so, what is the percentage they charge? I'm curious b/c I have been doing my own billing and with 15 pts, the OA rep wasn't sure how much they would charge. > > Thanks all. > > Madhavi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 From what I understand all the clearinghouses work this way. That is they get paid by the insurance companies for the electronic claims. Most clearinghouses also charge the physicians who submit the claims so they essentially get paid on both ends. Michele To: Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 8:19:39 PMSubject: Re: Re: office ally Wait just a minute. Office Ally gets paid by the commercial insurer to process claims? So, BCBS or XYZ commercial payer gives OA a...?kickback!? But medicare does not/cannot give OA a kickback? This has a bad smell. I am using office ally as a clearinghouse. I have Lytec as my practice management software. I went to them a few months ago when my prior clearinghouse was taken over by another company that wanted several hundred dollars/month. Office Ally is free, as long as less than 50% Medicare claims. I met the owner at a recent Primed and asked him how he can do that. He said the commercial plans pay him for each claim that goes through Office Ally but Medicare does not.I am starting to look at their EHR for $30/month. I really dislike with this whole thing that when we get an EHR or a practice management software, we are almost betrothed to them. They can jack up the prices or get taken over by another company and then you have to invest more time/money to switch. It really goes against our American market system. For instance, if Staples raises their prices, I can shop at WB Mason or Office Depot and am not stuck always with Staples. BUt if you spend thousands of dollars on an EMR and next year they decide the support cost has to go up 200%, you either pay up or spend more time/money to get another one> Who can really switch EMR's every year???My current EMR, Medinotes, was taken over by Ecclipsys a year ago and that in turn was taken over by Allscripts a few months ago!Thanks for letting me vent!Margaret Coughlan Re: patient portal I'm using Updox for a portal as well, primarily because it is cheap and includes by faxing. Seems to work ok and my few patients who are using it seem to like it. No structured e-visits with that. If you use the Office Ally "Practice Mate" PM module, which is free, I think you can submit charges through their clearing house for free, unless you have a large percentage of Medicare patients... they then charge you a monthly fee, but I think it is only $15. Anyone else using Office Ally to submit claims? Dr. Chu? Jack > > Hi All, > I started an IMP in late Sept. I'm curious as to how many are using a patient portal with secure email messaging and whether that has been helpful in improving efficiency. A well designed patient portal seems to be a differentiating feature of some of the lower end EHRs, ie cost as well. > > > Also, those of you using Office Ally...do you use their billing service, if so, what is the percentage they charge? I'm curious b/c I have been doing my own billing and with 15 pts, the OA rep wasn't sure how much they would charge. > > Thanks all. > > Madhavi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 " office ally is free unless you have >50%medicare " which of course FURTHER punishes those of us who take care of lots of medicare patientsget it? Isn;t that sweet. I think everyday about whether I should switch emrs- I hear X say oh this does ABC so well and someone else says Y does THIS so well ly they a re all neanderthal and the damn country ought to have ONE or TWO and they talk to each other and we all grow up and leanr to use them.Don;t other coutnries -like the Duthc- have one? AUstralia has two? my hospital has meditech and the hospital owned practices just all got E CW and the ER made a stink and got T system Yes 3 emrs in one small hospital systems. and noone talks to any other. can anyone spell absurd? Want to know what I really think?how much time do you all spend scannign and attaching and filing and sorting and etc to coordiante notes not care but notes labs and papers? 20% of your day? Imean for pete's sake. Pcps in this country ought to just go on strike. From what I understand all the clearinghouses work this way. That is they get paid by the insurance companies for the electronic claims. Most clearinghouses also charge the physicians who submit the claims so they essentially get paid on both ends. Michele To: Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 8:19:39 PMSubject: Re: Re: office ally Wait just a minute. Office Ally gets paid by the commercial insurer to process claims? So, BCBS or XYZ commercial payer gives OA a...?kickback!? But medicare does not/cannot give OA a kickback? This has a bad smell. I am using office ally as a clearinghouse. I have Lytec as my practice management software. I went to them a few months ago when my prior clearinghouse was taken over by another company that wanted several hundred dollars/month. Office Ally is free, as long as less than 50% Medicare claims. I met the owner at a recent Primed and asked him how he can do that. He said the commercial plans pay him for each claim that goes through Office Ally but Medicare does not. I am starting to look at their EHR for $30/month. I really dislike with this whole thing that when we get an EHR or a practice management software, we are almost betrothed to them. They can jack up the prices or get taken over by another company and then you have to invest more time/money to switch. It really goes against our American market system. For instance, if Staples raises their prices, I can shop at WB Mason or Office Depot and am not stuck always with Staples. BUt if you spend thousands of dollars on an EMR and next year they decide the support cost has to go up 200%, you either pay up or spend more time/money to get another one> Who can really switch EMR's every year???My current EMR, Medinotes, was taken over by Ecclipsys a year ago and that in turn was taken over by Allscripts a few months ago! Thanks for letting me vent!Margaret Coughlan Re: patient portal I'm using Updox for a portal as well, primarily because it is cheap and includes by faxing. Seems to work ok and my few patients who are using it seem to like it. No structured e-visits with that. If you use the Office Ally " Practice Mate " PM module, which is free, I think you can submit charges through their clearing house for free, unless you have a large percentage of Medicare patients... they then charge you a monthly fee, but I think it is only $15. Anyone else using Office Ally to submit claims? Dr. Chu? Jack > > Hi All, > I started an IMP in late Sept. I'm curious as to how many are using a patient portal with secure email messaging and whether that has been helpful in improving efficiency. A well designed patient portal seems to be a differentiating feature of some of the lower end EHRs, ie cost as well. > > > Also, those of you using Office Ally...do you use their billing service, if so, what is the percentage they charge? I'm curious b/c I have been doing my own billing and with 15 pts, the OA rep wasn't sure how much they would charge. > > Thanks all. > > Madhavi > -- PATIENTS-please remember that email may not be entirely secure, and that Email is part of the medical record and is placed into your chart ( be careful what you say!) Email is best used for appointment making and brief questionsEmail replies can be expected within 24 hours-Please CALL if the matter is more urgent . MD ph fax impcenter.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 My guess is that Medicare doesn’t give a kickback because they REQUIRE claims to come in electronically. The commercials don’t yet…. Pratt Office Manager Oak Tree Internal Medicine P.C www.prattmd.info From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kathleen Patton Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:20 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: office ally Wait just a minute. Office Ally gets paid by the commercial insurer to process claims? So, BCBS or XYZ commercial payer gives OA a...?kickback!? But medicare does not/cannot give OA a kickback? This has a bad smell. I am using office ally as a clearinghouse. I have Lytec as my practice management software. I went to them a few months ago when my prior clearinghouse was taken over by another company that wanted several hundred dollars/month. Office Ally is free, as long as less than 50% Medicare claims. I met the owner at a recent Primed and asked him how he can do that. He said the commercial plans pay him for each claim that goes through Office Ally but Medicare does not. I am starting to look at their EHR for $30/month. I really dislike with this whole thing that when we get an EHR or a practice management software, we are almost betrothed to them. They can jack up the prices or get taken over by another company and then you have to invest more time/money to switch. It really goes against our American market system. For instance, if Staples raises their prices, I can shop at WB Mason or Office Depot and am not stuck always with Staples. BUt if you spend thousands of dollars on an EMR and next year they decide the support cost has to go up 200%, you either pay up or spend more time/money to get another one> Who can really switch EMR's every year??? My current EMR, Medinotes, was taken over by Ecclipsys a year ago and that in turn was taken over by Allscripts a few months ago! Thanks for letting me vent! Margaret Coughlan Re: patient portal I'm using Updox for a portal as well, primarily because it is cheap and includes by faxing. Seems to work ok and my few patients who are using it seem to like it. No structured e-visits with that. If you use the Office Ally " Practice Mate " PM module, which is free, I think you can submit charges through their clearing house for free, unless you have a large percentage of Medicare patients... they then charge you a monthly fee, but I think it is only $15. Anyone else using Office Ally to submit claims? Dr. Chu? Jack > > Hi All, > I started an IMP in late Sept. I'm curious as to how many are using a patient portal with secure email messaging and whether that has been helpful in improving efficiency. A well designed patient portal seems to be a differentiating feature of some of the lower end EHRs, ie cost as well. > > > Also, those of you using Office Ally...do you use their billing service, if so, what is the percentage they charge? I'm curious b/c I have been doing my own billing and with 15 pts, the OA rep wasn't sure how much they would charge. > > Thanks all. > > Madhavi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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