What is Wheeler's website?

[Guest guest]

Hi Roslyn, I never hear of Wheeler. He sounds interesting.

Another , you think? I tried looking at the natural state

website, but it was about Arkansas! Can you give me the exact

website?

Thanks

Love

jeff

> >

> > Dear Roslyn,

> >

> > > I never can come up with much as most of my judgements are self

> > > judgments and i believe them so strongly the work is not

working for

> > > me.

> > What I do is to look at my self-judgements and see how they

reflect

> > in others.

> >

> > Or to take the self-judgements and put in a name, instead of " I "

> >

> > e.g.:

> >

> > " I should have tried harder to save my relationship.

> > I was too egoistic and did not regard her feelings enough. "

> >

> > Three ways to go on from here (which are not mutually exclusive,

btw.)

> >

> > 1. do the work with what I have.

> > 2. Take my self-judgements and try to find someone else they fit

on.

> > 3. Just write in the third person ( " should have tried

> > harder... " )

> >

> > If the work doesn't work, it could be a sign for a motive. So I

try

> > to find someone whom I don't have a motive with.

> >

> > I may just go out on the street, there's enough people around.

> >

> > Love,

> >

> >

> >

> > Am 01.03.2006 um 00:27 schrieb mrcitrus6:

> >

> > > i tried going to craigs list and dont know which one you are

on..

> > > i can post here anyway

> > > -at least you have people you can write a work sheet on..

> > > ISt that crazy? i have so much jealousy im jealous of people

who had

> > > worse childhoods.

> > > And i used to think i was not a jealous person.

> > >

> > > I never can come up with much as most of my judgements are self

> > > judgments and i believe them so strongly the work is not

working for

> > > me. I suppose the I know mind is strong

> > > hope you enjoyed the junk food.

> > > I like your emails

> > > love,roslyn

> >

>

[Guest guest]

the exact website is to key in thenaturalstate with no spaces.. .org..

and or look for john wheeler -

Basically he says we think we need to seek enlightenment and that is

just our mind and our mind will never get it..

the natural state is we are awareness and we dont have to improve or

seek anything. WE are already there. Its our minds which fools us and

thinks it needs to get better etc etc.

Hes not as well known as katie but his message is similar.

You can email him I think.

love, roslyn

-- In Loving-what-is , " " wrote:

>

> Hi Roslyn, I never hear of Wheeler. He sounds interesting.

> Another , you think? I tried looking at the natural state

> website, but it was about Arkansas! Can you give me the exact

> website?

> Thanks

> Love

> jeff

>

> > >

> > > Dear Roslyn,

> > >

> > > > I never can come up with much as most of my judgements are self

> > > > judgments and i believe them so strongly the work is not

> working for

> > > > me.

> > > What I do is to look at my self-judgements and see how they

> reflect

> > > in others.

> > >

> > > Or to take the self-judgements and put in a name, instead of " I "

> > >

> > > e.g.:

> > >

> > > " I should have tried harder to save my relationship.

> > > I was too egoistic and did not regard her feelings enough. "

> > >

> > > Three ways to go on from here (which are not mutually exclusive,

> btw.)

> > >

> > > 1. do the work with what I have.

> > > 2. Take my self-judgements and try to find someone else they fit

> on.

> > > 3. Just write in the third person ( " should have tried

> > > harder... " )

> > >

> > > If the work doesn't work, it could be a sign for a motive. So I

> try

> > > to find someone whom I don't have a motive with.

> > >

> > > I may just go out on the street, there's enough people around.

> > >

> > > Love,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Am 01.03.2006 um 00:27 schrieb mrcitrus6:

> > >

> > > > i tried going to craigs list and dont know which one you are

> on..

> > > > i can post here anyway

> > > > -at least you have people you can write a work sheet on..

> > > > ISt that crazy? i have so much jealousy im jealous of people

> who had

> > > > worse childhoods.

> > > > And i used to think i was not a jealous person.

> > > >

> > > > I never can come up with much as most of my judgements are self

> > > > judgments and i believe them so strongly the work is not

> working for

> > > > me. I suppose the I know mind is strong

> > > > hope you enjoyed the junk food.

> > > > I like your emails

> > > > love,roslyn

> > >

> >

>