Maybe a Myth that prevents us from the truth

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I saw this article recently and thing the last line is a myth. People from around the world can come here for health care because USA has a system where you can direct pay and get whatever you want and the system has too many hospitals, no wait list, advertise for business, etc. In countries with single payers, the medical system is busy taking care of their own citizens and not really open to foreigners nor looking for outside business. These other countries are generally non profits. But the bottom line is many of these single payer countries citizens are happier and live longer than Americans. Many of excellent medical studies come from these others countries like Canada, England, Scandinavia, etc

 

How I Made It: M. Priselac of Cedars-Sinai Health System

The chief executive of what's popularly viewed as the 'hospital to the stars' has presided over a sprawling medical center and research complex in L.A. for 17 years. He's also a force on the national healthcare scene.

November 28, 2010|By Duke Helfand

Los Angeles Times The gig: M. Priselac is president and chief executive of Cedars-Sinai Health System, a sprawling complex in Los Angeles with 11,000 employees, vast research and teaching programs and the largest private, nonprofit medical center in the Western United States.

The red carpet: Cedars-Sinai has long been associated with Hollywood. Burns Road and Gracie Drive run through its middle right past the Spielberg Pediatric Research Center. " We have the reputation as the hospital to the stars. That's something we're very proud of, " says Priselac, 59. " People who can go anywhere in the world choose to come here, I believe, because they know they're going to get world-class care. "

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I agree completely. This is only the best health care "system" in the world if you have unlimited personal funds. For everyone else (97% of the population?), it's an ongoing struggle to get even basic care. And it's getting worse. Every day.

I saw this article recently and thing the last line is a myth. People from around the world can come here for health care because USA has a system where you can direct pay and get whatever you want and the system has too many hospitals, no wait list, advertise for business, etc. In countries with single payers, the medical system is busy taking care of their own citizens and not really open to foreigners nor looking for outside business. These other countries are generally non profits. But the bottom line is many of these single payer countries citizens are happier and live longer than Americans. Many of excellent medical studies come from these others countries like Canada, England, Scandinavia, etc

How I Made It: M. Priselac of Cedars-Sinai Health System

The chief executive of what's popularly viewed as the 'hospital to the stars' has presided over a sprawling medical center and research complex in L.A. for 17 years. He's also a force on the national healthcare scene.

November 28, 2010|By Duke Helfand

Los Angeles Times The gig: M. Priselac is president and chief executive of Cedars-Sinai Health System, a sprawling complex in Los Angeles with 11,000 employees, vast research and teaching programs and the largest private, nonprofit medical center in the Western United States.

The red carpet: Cedars-Sinai has long been associated with Hollywood. Burns Road and Gracie Drive run through its middle right past the Spielberg Pediatric Research Center. "We have the reputation as the hospital to the stars. That's something we're very proud of," says Priselac, 59. "People who can go anywhere in the world choose to come here, I believe, because they know they're going to get world-class care."

-- M.D.www.elainemd.comOffice: Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined.This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may not use, publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. If you are not the intended recipient, or if you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and confidentially destroy the information that email in error.

[Guest guest]

I sometimes wonder if our belief in the US having the best healthcare in the world is kind of like the clip below about US students' overconfidence in their abilities in Math.

 

      http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/waiting-for-superman-clip-confidence/5j6xhcs

Despite failing to deliver good healthcare to the society as a whole in many areas -- when asked if we have great healthcare - many citizens given an overconfident - yes!

 

American Idiot, indeed.

 

:-)

 

Locke, MD

 

 

 

I agree completely.  This is only the best health care " system " in the world if you have unlimited personal funds.  For everyone else (97% of the population?), it's an ongoing struggle to get even basic care.  And it's getting worse.  Every day.

 

 

I saw this article recently and thing the last line is a myth. People from around the world can come here for health care because USA has a system where you can direct pay and get whatever you want and the system has too many hospitals, no wait list, advertise for business, etc. In countries with single payers, the medical system is busy taking care of their own citizens and not really open to foreigners nor looking for outside business. These other countries are generally non profits. But the bottom line is many of these single payer countries citizens are happier and live longer than Americans. Many of excellent medical studies come from these others countries like Canada, England, Scandinavia, etc

 

How I Made It: M. Priselac of Cedars-Sinai Health System

The chief executive of what's popularly viewed as the 'hospital to the stars' has presided over a sprawling medical center and research complex in L.A. for 17 years. He's also a force on the national healthcare scene.

November 28, 2010|By Duke Helfand

Los Angeles Times The gig: M. Priselac is president and chief executive of Cedars-Sinai Health System, a sprawling complex in Los Angeles with 11,000 employees, vast research and teaching programs and the largest private, nonprofit medical center in the Western United States.

The red carpet: Cedars-Sinai has long been associated with Hollywood. Burns Road and Gracie Drive run through its middle right past the Spielberg Pediatric Research Center. " We have the reputation as the hospital to the stars. That's something we're very proud of, " says Priselac, 59. " People who can go anywhere in the world choose to come here, I believe, because they know they're going to get world-class care. "

-- M.D.www.elainemd.comOffice: Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined.

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That was a great clip.  Thanks for sharing.

I haven't seen Waiting for Superman yet, but want to.  I did see Race to No Where, which presents an interesting point of view that we are pushing our kids too hard.  Probably would be good if everyone saw both.  Education is almost as big a challenge as healthcare.

Sharon

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As the adult child of two dedicated NYC school teachers (retired) the same crap that is wrong with healthcare reform is what the politicos are attempting to do to schools... Testing and Metrics, as in Race to the Top we teach a mile wide but only a few inches deep... Just as measuring standardized test metrics don't really mean or show a students performance or ability to debate and defend a point of view, develop a concept or solve a complex problem....

The system wants to hold teachers accountable with Pay for Performance just like us, on children who come from all sorts of home, families and walks of life... The teachers have little control over so many factors in these childrens lives from whether or not congress extends unemploment benefits, to their bed time, whether or not their parents are involved in the school life and help and check up on their assignments and work, take them to bookstores and libraries, how much TV and what kind do they watch, video games and which ones, after school stimulation in sports or something creative like art, theater, or dance, music... ANd yet these teachers are going to get paid based on the performance of these children's numbers on these tests, these BS metrics and how we pressure the kids and the teachers with these stupid tests like they have been handed down on Stone Tablets...

I said this a long time ago that our people and their people need to join forces and share info and strategies on how to beat this race to nowhere, based on bullcchit measure and metrics that have little if nothing to do with the human relationship between teacher and student, doctor and patient.... One person and encounter and day at a time. It's not perfect, its not very measureable, it has it HUMAN flaws but that is the honest reality of the situation.... I just coached the kids tonight and ya know what at 9 & 10 year of age and a decent spread in skills and knowledge of the game, just like a good teacher 3 grown men who love the game and the kids had to put our heads together half a dozen times as we created our lessons on the fly... trying to figure out just what those kids needed to help them learn and master all the various skills and concepts, no less athletic conditioning to advance and be successul at the task at hand.... You can

measure that and put that is some BS prepackage lesson plans... ANd guess what, USA Hockey is attempting to do the same thing and over demand things be done a certain way from Volunteers mind you, and take away our freedom to do things our way and custom design things to fit the kids that are actually infront of us....

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That was a great clip. Thanks for sharing.

I haven't seen Waiting for Superman yet, but want to. I did see Race to No Where, which presents an interesting point of view that we are pushing our kids too hard. Probably would be good if everyone saw both. Education is almost as big a challenge as healthcare.

Sharon