Re: Isocort and Cortef safety issues

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To allay your fears, I would recommend the book " Safe Uses of Cortisol "

though it is a bit pricey, you may be able to find it at your local

library. I have bought it and read it mostly form cover to cover. When

using the low doses of HC we use, I am nit worried about the side

effect. It is when you use 40+MG a day that you might start to see side

effects after some months on it. As to the Mad Cow and Isocort, I seldom

recommend Isocort anyway as HC just seems to work better. I worry about

taking all the Echinacea in Isocort as well as the " other " adrenal

hormones you may not need in Isocort.

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What do you think of the practice of the author's practice of using 5 mgs

every 4 hours rather than 10 in the a.m., 5 or 20 at lunch, to mimic the

daily levels? ( " Safe Uses of Cortisol " )

Also, are you still taking T3 and Armour, now that you are not on HC?

-- Re: Isocort and Cortef safety issues

To allay your fears, I would recommend the book " Safe Uses of Cortisol "

though it is a bit pricey, you may be able to find it at your local

library. I have bought it and read it mostly form cover to cover. When

using the low doses of HC we use, I am nit worried about the side

effect. It is when you use 40+MG a day that you might start to see side

effects after some months on it. As to the Mad Cow and Isocort, I seldom

recommend Isocort anyway as HC just seems to work better. I worry about

taking all the Echinacea in Isocort as well as the " other " adrenal

hormones you may not need in Isocort.

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No issue with Isocort and Mad Cow as it is a glandular derived from sheep I

definitely agree with the fact that you have to take a good bit of echinacea

and other adders with the product and those could cause other reactions, with a

difficulty in determing what might be the real cause. I have decided to stop

Isocort, and get an adrenal saliva and hopefully qualify for a hc from my dr.

What does hc feel like to take, general experiences, I don't have a clue????

wrote:

To allay your fears, I would recommend the book " Safe Uses of

Cortisol "

though it is a bit pricey, you may be able to find it at your local

library. I have bought it and read it mostly form cover to cover. When

using the low doses of HC we use, I am nit worried about the side

effect. It is when you use 40+MG a day that you might start to see side

effects after some months on it. As to the Mad Cow and Isocort, I seldom

recommend Isocort anyway as HC just seems to work better. I worry about

taking all the Echinacea in Isocort as well as the " other " adrenal

hormones you may not need in Isocort.

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You should not feel much of anything from HC till you have been on it a

while, then it is a gradual just plain feeling better & reduction of

symptoms! I took 20MG a day for 10 months and while it enabled me to

increase my Armour, I really felt little from it at all, but when I went

to 30MG a day I felt NORMAL for the first time in over 25 years. Good

energy and actually woke up looking forward to me day at work. Jumped

out of bed, was able to stretch without fear of muscle spasms, and

generally felt the best I have felt in a LONG time. This was almost a

euphoric effect that did not last though the AM energy did. I stopped

needing a nap every afternoon and finally felt well.

Some people when they first start it have a thyroid dump. This is when

thyroid that has built up in the blood is suddenly available to the

cells as it requires cortisol to enter the cells to work. If this

happens you should lower your thyroid dose or even stop it for a few

days for the thyroid to be used up, then resume it at a lower dose. This

is usually the only hitch starting HC and is why you should build the

dose up slowly over a two week period. You should learn to stress dose

when you have adrenal symptoms such as nausea or bad shakiness, which

does happen occasionally. I used to stress dose when a dog I was

grooming would try to bite me, it would leave me so shaky I couldn't

continue to groom till I had taken more HC. Also at the first sign if

illness like a flu or bad cold you can take up to double your normal

dose all at once and it will often stop the illness in it's tracks.

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Are you still feeling that good energy and able to walk up looking forward to

work etc., now that you've weaned off HC?

Did you experience any weight gain/loss during this time or since you stopped

the HC?

SAMMIE

wrote:

You should not feel much of anything from HC till you have been on it

a

while, then it is a gradual just plain feeling better & reduction of

symptoms! I took 20MG a day for 10 months and while it enabled me to

increase my Armour, I really felt little from it at all, but when I went

to 30MG a day I felt NORMAL for the first time in over 25 years. Good

energy and actually woke up looking forward to me day at work. Jumped

out of bed, was able to stretch without fear of muscle spasms, and

generally felt the best I have felt in a LONG time. This was almost a

euphoric effect that did not last though the AM energy did. I stopped

needing a nap every afternoon and finally felt well.

Some people when they first start it have a thyroid dump. This is when

thyroid that has built up in the blood is suddenly available to the

cells as it requires cortisol to enter the cells to work. If this

happens you should lower your thyroid dose or even stop it for a few

days for the thyroid to be used up, then resume it at a lower dose. This

is usually the only hitch starting HC and is why you should build the

dose up slowly over a two week period. You should learn to stress dose

when you have adrenal symptoms such as nausea or bad shakiness, which

does happen occasionally. I used to stress dose when a dog I was

grooming would try to bite me, it would leave me so shaky I couldn't

continue to groom till I had taken more HC. Also at the first sign if

illness like a flu or bad cold you can take up to double your normal

dose all at once and it will often stop the illness in it's tracks.

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I still feel it works best to take the highest dose in the AM then taper

down throughout the day, but some folks do better on more even doses. It

is a bit of trial and error to find what works best for each person,

What I do NOT find works is trying to dose by the labs.

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>>Are you still feeling that good energy and able to walk up looking forward to

work etc., now that you've weaned off HC?

Did you experience any weight gain/loss during this time or since you stopped

the HC?<,

I am still waking up energized in the morning though since I returned from my

trip to Chicago, I have been napping in the afternoons again, but I think that

is juts normal tired from the trip. We shall see tomorrow as I have a full day

at work. I have not gained or lost much since stopping HC. I lost about 2 pounds

in my trip but I know that was due to not being able to eat as I should.

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Thanks , that is super helpful. How long have you been on HC, and does

your dosage change at all? I have been taking naps for so long now in the

afternoon I have forgotten what it would be like not too!

wrote:

You should not feel much of anything from HC till you have been on it

a

while, then it is a gradual just plain feeling better & reduction of

symptoms! I took 20MG a day for 10 months and while it enabled me to

increase my Armour, I really felt little from it at all, but when I went

to 30MG a day I felt NORMAL for the first time in over 25 years. Good

energy and actually woke up looking forward to me day at work. Jumped

out of bed, was able to stretch without fear of muscle spasms, and

generally felt the best I have felt in a LONG time. This was almost a

euphoric effect that did not last though the AM energy did. I stopped

needing a nap every afternoon and finally felt well.

Some people when they first start it have a thyroid dump. This is when

thyroid that has built up in the blood is suddenly available to the

cells as it requires cortisol to enter the cells to work. If this

happens you should lower your thyroid dose or even stop it for a few

days for the thyroid to be used up, then resume it at a lower dose. This

is usually the only hitch starting HC and is why you should build the

dose up slowly over a two week period. You should learn to stress dose

when you have adrenal symptoms such as nausea or bad shakiness, which

does happen occasionally. I used to stress dose when a dog I was

grooming would try to bite me, it would leave me so shaky I couldn't

continue to groom till I had taken more HC. Also at the first sign if

illness like a flu or bad cold you can take up to double your normal

dose all at once and it will often stop the illness in it's tracks.

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I must have missed something along the way, why did you stop the HC ?

Sammie Baker wrote: Are you still feeling that good

energy and able to walk up looking forward to work etc., now that you've weaned

off HC?

Did you experience any weight gain/loss during this time or since you stopped

the HC?

SAMMIE

wrote:

You should not feel much of anything from HC till you have been on it a

while, then it is a gradual just plain feeling better & reduction of

symptoms! I took 20MG a day for 10 months and while it enabled me to

increase my Armour, I really felt little from it at all, but when I went

to 30MG a day I felt NORMAL for the first time in over 25 years. Good

energy and actually woke up looking forward to me day at work. Jumped

out of bed, was able to stretch without fear of muscle spasms, and

generally felt the best I have felt in a LONG time. This was almost a

euphoric effect that did not last though the AM energy did. I stopped

needing a nap every afternoon and finally felt well.

Some people when they first start it have a thyroid dump. This is when

thyroid that has built up in the blood is suddenly available to the

cells as it requires cortisol to enter the cells to work. If this

happens you should lower your thyroid dose or even stop it for a few

days for the thyroid to be used up, then resume it at a lower dose. This

is usually the only hitch starting HC and is why you should build the

dose up slowly over a two week period. You should learn to stress dose

when you have adrenal symptoms such as nausea or bad shakiness, which

does happen occasionally. I used to stress dose when a dog I was

grooming would try to bite me, it would leave me so shaky I couldn't

continue to groom till I had taken more HC. Also at the first sign if

illness like a flu or bad cold you can take up to double your normal

dose all at once and it will often stop the illness in it's tracks.

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>>I must have missed something along the way, why did you stop the HC ?<<

I stopped because my adrenals are healed! I no longer need it.

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