Re: My Bedroom/ also directions for mixing ammonia/vinegar and baking soda

[Guest guest]

When cleaning for mycotoxins, don't use the scented ammonia. Plain

ammonia, in a 50/50 mix with water and sprayed from an unused paint

sprayer with an atominizer tip. You should spray the whole house.

Cross-contamination. Wash all washables in the laundry with 2-3 cups

of ammonia added. Wipe everything you can't wash or spray with the

50/50 mix. Wear a respirator rated for ammonia.

Goodl luck,

Sherry

In , " sea " <jackiebreeze@...> wrote:

>

> Hi,

> I think I have complained a few times on here about how bad my asthma

> has been as of late. We had recently moved in early Nov. After

> looking at about 100 apts and houses, we finially found one that did

> not appear to have a moisture, mold or any other allergy problem.

> Well, in the past few weeks I have been waking up like I was being

> strangled and lacked breath. I would wake up several times a night

> like this and was going on little or no sleep and using my nebulizer

> constantly. I had told my husband over and over that I thought it

> was the carpet in our bedroom but of course he gives me the same old

> same old that there is mold and dust everywhere and I needed to get a

> grip. This bedroom was the only room in the house with carpet, the

> rest is hard wood I stopped sleeping in that room several nights

> ago and started sleeping in my daughter's room. I could not handle

> waking up gasping for breath again. Yesterday morning I found my

> husband on the couch. I asked if he ever went to bed (the one in the

> room with the carpet). He said he did, but he woke up and could not

> breath! Yesterday he removed everything out of that bed room to

> outside and ripped up the carpet!! Afterwards, he washed the *whole*

> room, I mean everything, even the ceiling with a sponge mop of a

> mixture of ammonia, baking soda and vinegar. Right now the room is

> drying out with windows open and fans. I had prayed that my family

> would *really* understand and start taking my illness serious. I see

> my prayers were answered! All it took for him was to feel strangled

> and not breath one time and he takes action. Well, at least he knows

> how I feel now! I did not want to rip up the carpet myself because

> my immune system can't handle it. He has a VERY tough immune system

> so he can take it. I have been sick since we moved in in Nov. He has

> the carpet in the back of his truck. The bottom is all nasty with

> stains. It was most likely loaded with mold. Last night after he

> got the carpet out before the room was cleaned, like a dummy I walked

> into the room and had a bad asthma attack. Anyway, I am hoping this

> resolves my issues as of late.

> I remember once someone asked on this group if ammonia, vinegar and

> baking soda could be mixed. On the back of Southern Home Lemon

> Ammonia, here are instructions as read word for word, " Special

> Woodwork and Painted Walls: Add 1 cup Ammonia, 1/2 cup vinegar, 1/4

> cup baking soda to 1 gallon hot water.

> That is the only place I see where the combination can be used. I

> still tend to believe the baking soda and vinegar might be too much

> for clothing and hair. I know the combination is oftened used to

> unclogged drains.

>

[Guest guest]

Luckly for us, this bedroom has a out side door right across the

hall. We sealed off the other parts of the house with thick plastic

sheets and duck tape. My husband was able to get the carpet outside

without bringing it all through the house. he even took off his

clothes and left them outside! After the deep cleaning yesterday

and airing the bedroom for 24 hours, I can really breath in that room

now!

As far as the lemon scent, I would rather had the unscented but

citrus scents don't bother me. I live about 15 miles from town and

this was the only kind that was carried by the Bilo which is only 5

miles away. Being we had to do this ASAP, we did not have the time to

take a drive into the main town to purchase unscented. If the

scented had been a problem for me, we would had made the 15 mile

drive.

I have a great way of dispersing the ammonia or vinegar all over the

house but this is something I need to get permission from KC before

posting.

> >

> > Hi,

> > I think I have complained a few times on here about how bad my

asthma

> > has been as of late. We had recently moved in early Nov. After

> > looking at about 100 apts and houses, we finially found one that

did

> > not appear to have a moisture, mold or any other allergy

problem.

> > Well, in the past few weeks I have been waking up like I was

being

> > strangled and lacked breath. I would wake up several times a

night

> > like this and was going on little or no sleep and using my

nebulizer

> > constantly. I had told my husband over and over that I thought

it

> > was the carpet in our bedroom but of course he gives me the same

old

> > same old that there is mold and dust everywhere and I needed to

get a

> > grip. This bedroom was the only room in the house with carpet,

the

> > rest is hard wood I stopped sleeping in that room several

nights

> > ago and started sleeping in my daughter's room. I could not

handle

> > waking up gasping for breath again. Yesterday morning I found my

> > husband on the couch. I asked if he ever went to bed (the one in

the

> > room with the carpet). He said he did, but he woke up and could

not

> > breath! Yesterday he removed everything out of that bed room to

> > outside and ripped up the carpet!! Afterwards, he washed the

*whole*

> > room, I mean everything, even the ceiling with a sponge mop of a

> > mixture of ammonia, baking soda and vinegar. Right now the room

is

> > drying out with windows open and fans. I had prayed that my

family

> > would *really* understand and start taking my illness serious. I

see

> > my prayers were answered! All it took for him was to feel

strangled

> > and not breath one time and he takes action. Well, at least he

knows

> > how I feel now! I did not want to rip up the carpet myself

because

> > my immune system can't handle it. He has a VERY tough immune

system

> > so he can take it. I have been sick since we moved in in Nov. He

has

> > the carpet in the back of his truck. The bottom is all nasty with

> > stains. It was most likely loaded with mold. Last night after

he

> > got the carpet out before the room was cleaned, like a dummy I

walked

> > into the room and had a bad asthma attack. Anyway, I am hoping

this

> > resolves my issues as of late.

> > I remember once someone asked on this group if ammonia, vinegar

and

> > baking soda could be mixed. On the back of Southern Home Lemon

> > Ammonia, here are instructions as read word for word, " Special

> > Woodwork and Painted Walls: Add 1 cup Ammonia, 1/2 cup vinegar,

1/4

> > cup baking soda to 1 gallon hot water.

> > That is the only place I see where the combination can be used.

I

> > still tend to believe the baking soda and vinegar might be too

much

> > for clothing and hair. I know the combination is oftened used to

> > unclogged drains.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jackie,

I'm wondering about your statement that you are wondering if vinegar

and baking soda may be too strong for hair but you didn't mention

ammonia. Do you mean you think ammonia is gentle enough for hair but

not vinegar? A little confused here. I use vinegar rinses all the

time and wash hair about once a week with baking soda is with shampoo

and it does a great job of cleaning hair, no drying. However I know

that you cannot use vinegar and baking soda in same shampoo session.

I once washed my hair is water that had baking soda in it and rinsed

it in vinegar water and it was very dry. However I would think

ammonia would be much too strong for hair, so please clarify. Thanks!

>

> Hi,

> I think I have complained a few times on here about how bad my

asthma

> has been as of late. We had recently moved in early Nov.

[Guest guest]

Jackie,

Sure go ahead and post it. You really don't need my permission. If

you found something that works for you great, and if you think it

could help others. I don't know enough about these natural remedies

or the chemcials that many professionals use, so I really can't

endorse anything, but just like everything else please everyone use

caution. Sometimes the simplest things can help the most, but as you

know that can go either way.

KC

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > I think I have complained a few times on here about how bad my

> asthma

> > > has been as of late. We had recently moved in early Nov.

After

> > > looking at about 100 apts and houses, we finially found one

that

> did

> > > not appear to have a moisture, mold or any other allergy

> problem.

> > > Well, in the past few weeks I have been waking up like I was

> being

> > > strangled and lacked breath. I would wake up several times a

> night

> > > like this and was going on little or no sleep and using my

> nebulizer

> > > constantly. I had told my husband over and over that I

thought

> it

> > > was the carpet in our bedroom but of course he gives me the

same

> old

> > > same old that there is mold and dust everywhere and I needed

to

> get a

> > > grip. This bedroom was the only room in the house with

carpet,

> the

> > > rest is hard wood I stopped sleeping in that room several

> nights

> > > ago and started sleeping in my daughter's room. I could not

> handle

> > > waking up gasping for breath again. Yesterday morning I found

my

> > > husband on the couch. I asked if he ever went to bed (the one

in

> the

> > > room with the carpet). He said he did, but he woke up and

could

> not

> > > breath! Yesterday he removed everything out of that bed room

to

> > > outside and ripped up the carpet!! Afterwards, he washed the

> *whole*

> > > room, I mean everything, even the ceiling with a sponge mop of

a

> > > mixture of ammonia, baking soda and vinegar. Right now the

room

> is

> > > drying out with windows open and fans. I had prayed that my

> family

> > > would *really* understand and start taking my illness

serious. I

> see

> > > my prayers were answered! All it took for him was to feel

> strangled

> > > and not breath one time and he takes action. Well, at least he

> knows

> > > how I feel now! I did not want to rip up the carpet myself

> because

> > > my immune system can't handle it. He has a VERY tough immune

> system

> > > so he can take it. I have been sick since we moved in in Nov.

He

> has

> > > the carpet in the back of his truck. The bottom is all nasty

with

> > > stains. It was most likely loaded with mold. Last night

after

> he

> > > got the carpet out before the room was cleaned, like a dummy I

> walked

> > > into the room and had a bad asthma attack. Anyway, I am

hoping

> this

> > > resolves my issues as of late.

> > > I remember once someone asked on this group if ammonia,

vinegar

> and

> > > baking soda could be mixed. On the back of Southern Home

Lemon

> > > Ammonia, here are instructions as read word for

word, " Special

> > > Woodwork and Painted Walls: Add 1 cup Ammonia, 1/2 cup

vinegar,

> 1/4

> > > cup baking soda to 1 gallon hot water.

> > > That is the only place I see where the combination can be

used.

> I

> > > still tend to believe the baking soda and vinegar might be too

> much

> > > for clothing and hair. I know the combination is oftened used

to

> > > unclogged drains.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Barb,

I have stated over and over on here that I think all of these are

drying for the hair, including baking soda and vinegar. I would NEVER

suggest ammonia to be used on the hair. If one feels they need

something as strong as ammonia, then go and purchase a hair color

kit. As a hair stylist, I am very selective on what should or should

not be applied to the hair.

Baking soda has been used in salons but should no more than once a

week for hair that has a build up. A vinegar and water solution can

be used after hair color. It can be used safely once a week as well

but I would never suggest as full strength as this can be too drying

on the hair. Vinegar has been known to cure some fungus. Vinegar and

soda should never be used together on the hair.

I never said ammonia was OK to use on the hair. I really don't know

how you interrupted my post as saying this.

Thanks!

> >

> > Hi,

> > I think I have complained a few times on here about how bad my

> asthma

> > has been as of late. We had recently moved in early Nov.

>

[Guest guest]

OK KC, you said OK so here it goes but please note, this is not a

proper use for the device I use and I have no idea how safe this is.

I usually stay close enough so I can keep an eye on what is going but

far away enough so my health is not affected.

A few weeks ago I discovered a leak in my ceiling. I was very

concerned about the moisture in the attic while waiting for repairs.

I knew I needed to either get LOTS of vinegar or Ammonia in all of

the cracks in the attic to prevent mold that I could. While I was in

Wal Mart, I saw the Vick Vaporizers. For 12.00 I bought one and took

it home and filled it up with a solution of 3 parts vinegar and one

part of very hot water and a teaspoon of salt. The salt is needed to

make the steam. It is in the directions. I placed this in my attic

and shut up the room below and went out side and remained out side

for several hours. I only went to my attic a few times to make sure

everything was OK. As I said, a vaporizer is NOT intended to be used

in this fashion so I am NOT sure how safe this is. I know it is NOT

safe to go breathing any vinegar or ammonia vapors so I use EXTREME

caution when I am anywhere near the room that is being fumigated. I

use a respirator, safety glasses and etc. I even cover my whole body

so no skin is exposed. I may peep to make sure everything is OK and

run out. When my fumigating is finished, I keep the plug close to

my " escape " door so I can unplug and get out, of course with all of

my protective gear. I allow the vapor to settle for about an hour and

then I open the windows to air the room out for at least 3 hours.

This is something I made up so I have no idea how safe this is to

use. All I know is my attic smells very fresh (3 weeks after last

treatment) and no signs of mold.

If anyone decides to do this, please make sure you use safety

measures as it is not safe to breathe the vapors. Only do this when

one will have sufficient time (4 hours) to allow the vapors to settle

and 3 hours to air out the treated room. I say 3 hours because about

12 years ago I used a bug boom in my basement and it said to allow

the room to air for 3 hours. I figured if 3 hours enough for bug

spray that it should be enough for this is.

Please remember, this is NOT what a vaporizer is used for so this may

not be safe but I know it works to get the solution in every crack. I

used it in my room after we disinfected yesterday. There is not a

trace of any smell as I aired that room out 24 hours.

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > I think I have complained a few times on here about how bad

my

> > asthma

> > > > has been as of late. We had recently moved in early Nov.

> After

> > > > looking at about 100 apts and houses, we finially found one

> that

> > did

> > > > not appear to have a moisture, mold or any other allergy

> > problem.

> > > > Well, in the past few weeks I have been waking up like I was

> > being

> > > > strangled and lacked breath. I would wake up several times a

> > night

> > > > like this and was going on little or no sleep and using my

> > nebulizer

> > > > constantly. I had told my husband over and over that I

> thought

> > it

> > > > was the carpet in our bedroom but of course he gives me the

> same

> > old

> > > > same old that there is mold and dust everywhere and I needed

> to

> > get a

> > > > grip. This bedroom was the only room in the house with

> carpet,

> > the

> > > > rest is hard wood I stopped sleeping in that room several

> > nights

> > > > ago and started sleeping in my daughter's room. I could not

> > handle

> > > > waking up gasping for breath again. Yesterday morning I found

> my

> > > > husband on the couch. I asked if he ever went to bed (the one

> in

> > the

> > > > room with the carpet). He said he did, but he woke up and

> could

> > not

> > > > breath! Yesterday he removed everything out of that bed room

> to

> > > > outside and ripped up the carpet!! Afterwards, he washed the

> > *whole*

> > > > room, I mean everything, even the ceiling with a sponge mop

of

> a

> > > > mixture of ammonia, baking soda and vinegar. Right now the

> room

> > is

> > > > drying out with windows open and fans. I had prayed that my

> > family

> > > > would *really* understand and start taking my illness

> serious. I

> > see

> > > > my prayers were answered! All it took for him was to feel

> > strangled

> > > > and not breath one time and he takes action. Well, at least

he

> > knows

> > > > how I feel now! I did not want to rip up the carpet myself

> > because

> > > > my immune system can't handle it. He has a VERY tough immune

> > system

> > > > so he can take it. I have been sick since we moved in in

Nov.

> He

> > has

> > > > the carpet in the back of his truck. The bottom is all nasty

> with

> > > > stains. It was most likely loaded with mold. Last night

> after

> > he

> > > > got the carpet out before the room was cleaned, like a dummy

I

> > walked

> > > > into the room and had a bad asthma attack. Anyway, I am

> hoping

> > this

> > > > resolves my issues as of late.

> > > > I remember once someone asked on this group if ammonia,

> vinegar

> > and

> > > > baking soda could be mixed. On the back of Southern Home

> Lemon

> > > > Ammonia, here are instructions as read word for

> word, " Special

> > > > Woodwork and Painted Walls: Add 1 cup Ammonia, 1/2 cup

> vinegar,

> > 1/4

> > > > cup baking soda to 1 gallon hot water.

> > > > That is the only place I see where the combination can be

> used.

> > I

> > > > still tend to believe the baking soda and vinegar might be

too

> > much

> > > > for clothing and hair. I know the combination is oftened used

> to

> > > > unclogged drains.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jackie,

I don't always read every post here so perhaps missed posts that

mentioned ammonia and hair. I don't always remember who makes what

comments.

I just wanted clarification. Subject was ammonia, baking soda and

vinegar and you said you thought baking soda and vinegar were too

drying for hair but didn't say anything about ammonia. I know some

people suggest bathing with ammonia in water so just wondered since

you said nothing about ammonia, that that was okay.

I got it from here:

" I remember once someone asked on this group if ammonia, vinegar and

baking soda could be mixed. On the back of Southern Home Lemon

Ammonia, here are instructions as read word for word, " Special

Woodwork and Painted Walls: Add 1 cup Ammonia, 1/2 cup vinegar, 1/4

cup baking soda to 1 gallon hot water.

That is the only place I see where the combination can be used. I

still tend to believe the baking soda and vinegar might be too much

for clothing and hair. I know the combination is oftened used to

unclogged drains.'

>

> Barb,

> I have stated over and over on here that I think all of these are

> drying for the hair, including baking soda and vinegar.

[Guest guest]

These solutions might be good for some things but if you are trying to

inactivate as well as

clean strong mycotoxins off of items you need strong oxidizers and I don't

think that

anything that strong could be put on skin without burning it. You also need

time.. i.e. 30 minutes,

Maybe a certain amount less would work, but not 15 seconds..

Note: I am going by what i remember from the scientific literature..

Degreasing is a separate issue, which may work as well for some people, as

long as you realize that that liquid that is coming off of things is going

to be carrying that bad stuff and it WILL re-deposit it and perhaps

concentrate it wherever it ends up.. like when it dries..

Actually, this is another good reason why the ACOEM guidelines are wrong..

you can't have low concentrations of such powerful toxins in an environment

without concentrating them accidentally at times.. and that ends up being

particularly dangerous..

On 2/13/07, barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Jackie,

> I don't always read every post here so perhaps missed posts that

> mentioned ammonia and hair. I don't always remember who makes what

> comments.

> I just wanted clarification. Subject was ammonia, baking soda and

> vinegar and you said you thought baking soda and vinegar were too

> drying for hair but didn't say anything about ammonia. I know some

> people suggest bathing with ammonia in water so just wondered since

> you said nothing about ammonia, that that was okay.

>

> I got it from here:

> " I remember once someone asked on this group if ammonia, vinegar and

> baking soda could be mixed. On the back of Southern Home Lemon

> Ammonia, here are instructions as read word for word, " Special

> Woodwork and Painted Walls: Add 1 cup Ammonia, 1/2 cup vinegar, 1/4

> cup baking soda to 1 gallon hot water.

> That is the only place I see where the combination can be used. I

> still tend to believe the baking soda and vinegar might be too much

> for clothing and hair. I know the combination is oftened used to

> unclogged drains.'

>

>

> >

> > Barb,

> > I have stated over and over on here that I think all of these are

> > drying for the hair, including baking soda and vinegar.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Barb,

I did not mention Ammonia because IMO, it is simply out of the

question and out of mind to be used on hair or body. It is

dangerious. I had no idea that just because I left it out one would

accuse me of *stating* that it is OK! I wish people would not read

into what others write. If I did not mention Ammonia, it is because

it is not a topic or subject I was even giving thought..out of sight,

out of mind.

> >

> > Barb,

> > I have stated over and over on here that I think all of these are

> > drying for the hair, including baking soda and vinegar.

>