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In a message dated 07/08/2006 18:17:56 GMT Daylight Time, jigscam@...

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Can anyone tell me why we need to stop the salt? Will it skew our labs one

way or another?

Sammie

I am stopping my salt just so when I get tested for sodium levels on Friday

I have a clear idea of what is going on when I am not supplementing.

The problems I am having began before I started the salt so it makes sense

to leave it out for a day to assess the situation.

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What happens is higher potassium requires higher sodium as these must

stay balanced. A problem with low sodium can be caused by low

Aldosterone, an adrenal hormone. Treatment is replacement hormones

called Florinef.

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>>Can anyone tell me why we need to stop the salt? Will it skew our labs one

way or another?<<

Because oyu want an accurate picture of what your body is able to retain without

the added salt.

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I did have my salt and potassium tested months ago and these were the results.

But, I started taking 1/4 tsp of sea salt in the am and pm a few weeks ago. It

seems like more problems keep surfacing the more I try to get better.

I thought that we were to be taking more potassium than sodium. Or am I

imagining this in a previous post????

3/16/06

Sodium = 136 (135 - 146)

Potassium = 4.3 (3.5 - 5.3)

I don't think the Isocort is really working at an optimal level. I'm so tired

in the mornings. And I'm deeply reluctant to take the steriods because I can

not gain any more weight that I already have.

SAMMIE

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In a message dated 07/08/2006 18:17:56 GMT Daylight Time, jigscam@...

writes:

Can anyone tell me why we need to stop the salt? Will it skew our labs one

way or another?

Sammie

I am stopping my salt just so when I get tested for sodium levels on Friday

I have a clear idea of what is going on when I am not supplementing.

The problems I am having began before I started the salt so it makes sense

to leave it out for a day to assess the situation.

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

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Val, so, the treatment for low Aldosterone is Florinef? What are the symptoms

of low Aldosterone?

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What happens is higher potassium requires higher sodium as these must

stay balanced. A problem with low sodium can be caused by low

Aldosterone, an adrenal hormone. Treatment is replacement hormones

called Florinef.

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Low Aldosterone causes salt wasting. Cravings for salt and even on

higher doses of HC no releif of fatigue in the afternoons would be

symptoms. Also you may have to urinate way too often. Muscle spasms that

are from dehydration (even in the presence of fluid retention you can

STILL be dehydrated) can also be symptomatic. The only true way to know

if oyu are low in Aldosterone is to have Serum Aldosterone and serum

Renin testing done. These are blood tests that must be ordered by a doctor.

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Ingesting salt the day of the test will skew the labs, I recommend not

taking any for 24 hours before the tests. Docs like to say 3 days,

but that is overkill and a lot of people who have stop ingesting salt

for that long have gotten very messed up.

Florinef (fludrocortisone acetate) and ingesting salt and staying out

of the heat as much as possible is the treatment. (celtic or sea salt,

brand Real Salt is very good, real salt is yellowish, processed which

you don't want, is white).

You've probably heard me say this already, but I'll repeat for those

who haven't. You must get aldosterone AND renin tested as well as a

CBC to get sodium and potassium values at the same time.

Chris

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> Can anyone tell me why we need to stop the salt? Will it skew our

labs one way or another? I'm having a hell of a time whenever I have

any excess potassium. I ended up urinating every 15 minutes all day

yesterday after having a soup that had a lot of potassium in it. And

I'm pretty sure it was a reaction to the potassium.

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> If this is a reaction to an inproperly functioning aldosterone,

what is the treatment for this?

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Sammy and Mo,

I stopped taking my salt for over 48 hours before I had my test.

Granted they were screwed up because I had coffee, ate, etc. I read

several places that you should fast before the aldosterone/renin test.

Make sure to insist on the renin too. I posted earlier about that.

After I had my blood test I came home and started to power down salt.

It didn't really affect me untill that evening and the next day. My

doctor did not run the sodium/potassium tests which I was way upset

about because I really had to struggle with not taking the salt.

If it were me...I would stop the salt at the least 24 hours before

your test. I went for 2 full days and if I had to do it again I would

go for 3 so they could really see what was going on with me. My

husband stayed with me the entire time I was off salt just in case.

You do want them to be able to see what your body does without the

amazing amounts of salt we seem to have to consume.

We measured my salt that I took on a normal day and it came out to be

about 7500mg. I take about 5000mg of vitamin C and thought that was a

lot. If a normal person took that much sea salt they would get sick.

No question about it.

Google aldosterone/renin blood testing and see what you get. That is

where I read that I should have been fasting, coffee can skew the

results, hydrocortisone can too, etc.

Excess potassium and low sodium are classic 's Disease symptoms.

is the one who had the most sound advice for me on this one. We

had several posts on the STTM site. You may want to go read them.

a in N. Idaho

> Can anyone tell me why we need to stop the salt? Will it skew our

labs one way or another? I'm having a hell of a time whenever I have

any excess potassium. I ended up urinating every 15 minutes all day

yesterday after having a soup that had a lot of potassium in it. And

I'm pretty sure it was a reaction to the potassium.

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what is the treatment for this?

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In a message dated 08/08/2006 02:40:40 GMT Daylight Time,

chrisgj@... writes:

You've probably heard me say this already, but I'll repeat for those

who haven't. You must get aldosterone AND renin tested as well as a

CBC to get sodium and potassium values at the same time.

Chris

I tried to pin my doctor down yesterday into naming the actual tests but he

was evasive. He reassured me that a proper look would be taken.......

Mo

ps I will ask for a copy of the labs. It has only recently been made law

here in the UK that doctors must supply this on request.

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In a message dated 08/08/2006 02:50:37 GMT Daylight Time,

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Hi a

I stopped taking my salt for over 48 hours before I had my test.

Granted they were screwed up because I had coffee, ate, etc. I read

several places that you should fast before the aldosterone/several pla

This is good to know, I was not aware of this. My appt. for the bloods is

9.35 so I will hold off on coffee/food - GROAN- and h/c. It is a long wait from

6 am when I wake usually but needs must.

Make sure to insist on the renin too. I posted earlier about that.

I'll ask the nurse, the doctor was not forthcoming about what tests he was

ordering.

After I had my blood test I came home and started to power down salt.

It didn't really affect me untill that evening and the next day.

How did the lack of salt affect you?

My

doctor did not run the sodium/potassium tests which I was way upset

about because I really had to struggle with not taking the salt.

Yes I think my doctor is defiitely going to do this one.

If it were me...I would stop the salt at the least 24 hours before

your test. I went for 2 full days and if I had to do it again I would

go for 3 so they could really see what was going on with me.

Why do you think I should leave it out for 24 hours when you say if you were

to do it again you would leave the salt out for three days?

Google aldosterone/Google aldosterone/<WBR>renin blood testing and see

where I read that I should have been fasting, coffee can skew the

results, hydrocortisone can too, etc.

Excess potassium and low sodium are classic 's Disease symptoms.

Well I don't think I am that far gone.

is the one who had the most sound advice for me on this one. We

had several posts on the STTM site. You may want to go read them.

Could you pse tell me what is the STTM site?

Thanks.

Mo

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How do you measure the salt you take? What is say a teaspoon worth

and are the different types of sea salt equivalent?

> We measured my salt that I took on a normal day and it came out to be

> about 7500mg. I take about 5000mg of vitamin C and thought that was a

> lot. If a normal person took that much sea salt they would get sick.

> No question about it.

Elyse

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