Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 I agree fully with Holly. Let's stop and think for a moment about what professional credentials are and what it means to have credentials. Being able to put that RD after your name is not an exercise to make one's business card look cool (feel free to ignore my sarcasm). Rather the intent of professional credentialling is to ensure public safety. Individuals seeking nutrition information can have some level of comfort in knowing that the individual with the RD has met minimum criteria to ensure safe practice. CDR must ensure that those who have an RD after their name are safe and " competent " in practice. Therefore, there is the need to have some control over what we do as Continuing Professional Education. All health professions have some level of complexity in maintaining credentials; many physician specialties have requirements to achieve hundreds of CE hours per year and are still required to sit for credentialling examinations periodically. All have costs. We're making all sorts of assumptions when we say that CDR has " saved money by transferring the work to us " . Have you done the research to verify this or are you simply assuming that? Development of a safe, secure on-line mechanism to enter continuing education isn't free or simple. I have to admit liking this process as now I can log on and see where I am and what I need to do. I've changed my portfolio twice now and both times the process was simple and quick. Someone had to pay for that amount of programming. So, I doubt that they're installing crystal chandeliers at CDR and sipping champagne as we speak. As for dropping ADA membership, I've not once considered that in my 20 ++ year career. As my dear, departed grandma used to say " if you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem. " ADA membership costs are minimal compared to other costs we incur willingly and compared to the resources gained. If you're upset that CDR did not drop everything to change CE procedures simply b/c a small percentage of folks thought that necessary, then find out what you need to do to further your cause. Do the research. Investigate all the potential outcomes. Present a well thought out proposal and not just a petition. You can't just take your ball and leave the playground and then feel entitled to continue complaining. Respectfully, Pam Pam Charney PhD, RD, CNSD Author and Consultant Seattle, WA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Pam, You are very articulate and pose some good and convincing arguments. No wonder you're an author! You should also consider, if you have not already done so, working as a mediator or in a diplomatic role, bc you obviously want to keep peace and prefer all discussions to be backed by data. You are also undoubtedly a very loyal ADA member, and that is commendable. I am looking at PDP systems entirely from my personal standpoint. It is cumbersome, it was not presented to the membership at large or opinions requested prior to implementation; I remember it being announced and some scanty information sent, which of course I ignored bc I had at least 5 years to go before it hit me, and I could have been retired, or dead by then. Since I was neither one, the year before mine was due I started to pay attention. I attended CDR-PDP workshops, read, discussed with peers and CDR (phone), and developed my plan. I still believe there are easier ways to do this, and I do not believe that we become better pratitioners with this plan, and would be worse without it. I really have not seen any remarkable improvements or changes in most RDs practice, and the few loopholes in the system have been used to their best advantage at times. What I do observe is that there are fewer and fewer dietetic professionals, and I have a very difficult time recruiting for all levels. I also see that there are some very poor performers, and although I have purposely double checked what their learning plans for the PDP are, I see that the plans are accepted and acceptable, but their performance is still marginal to dangerous. The PDP does not solve that. I changed our company's policy to only hire ADA members years ago for several reasons, the main one being the financial hardship that a membership causes some. Although to some of us an annual $250 payment may not be much, to others it's a hardship. I also believe that the ADA is a beaurocracy, much like the AMA, and to try and change it is futile. Some belong in it, and some don't. I'm fine w either one, as long as their expertise and competency, which have nothing to do with the membership, meet and exceed standards of practice. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD http://groups.msn.com/RDForum Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis CDR Discussion I agree fully with Holly. Let's stop and think for a moment about what professional credentials are and what it means to have credentials. Being able to put that RD after your name is not an exercise to make one's business card look cool (feel free to ignore my sarcasm). Rather the intent of professional credentialling is to ensure public safety. Individuals seeking nutrition information can have some level of comfort in knowing that the individual with the RD has met minimum criteria to ensure safe practice. CDR must ensure that those who have an RD after their name are safe and " competent " in practice. Therefore, there is the need to have some control over what we do as Continuing Professional Education. All health professions have some level of complexity in maintaining credentials; many physician specialties have requirements to achieve hundreds of CE hours per year and are still required to sit for credentialling examinations periodically. All have costs. We're making all sorts of assumptions when we say that CDR has " saved money by transferring the work to us " . Have you done the research to verify this or are you simply assuming that? Development of a safe, secure on-line mechanism to enter continuing education isn't free or simple. I have to admit liking this process as now I can log on and see where I am and what I need to do. I've changed my portfolio twice now and both times the process was simple and quick. Someone had to pay for that amount of programming. So, I doubt that they're installing crystal chandeliers at CDR and sipping champagne as we speak. As for dropping ADA membership, I've not once considered that in my 20 ++ year career. As my dear, departed grandma used to say " if you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem. " ADA membership costs are minimal compared to other costs we incur willingly and compared to the resources gained. If you're upset that CDR did not drop everything to change CE procedures simply b/c a small percentage of folks thought that necessary, then find out what you need to do to further your cause. Do the research. Investigate all the potential outcomes. Present a well thought out proposal and not just a petition. You can't just take your ball and leave the playground and then feel entitled to continue complaining. Respectfully, Pam Pam Charney PhD, RD, CNSD Author and Consultant Seattle, WA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Holly, I have to strongly disagree with when you said that if I am not a member I don't have the right to complain. I ahve a very true right to compalin b/c the PDP applies to all RDs and DTRs regardless of memebrship and I am still an RD. I submited mine and cleared till 2010. So basically, with this program. Merav Levi-, RD, MS, CDN Clinical Dietitian 8235 134th Street Kew Gardens, NY 11435 > >Reply-To: rd-usa >To: rd-usa >Subject: Re: CDR Discussion >Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 08:44:01 -0700 (PDT) > >Poor performers were around long before the change in our continuing >education documentation process. If there are fewer new nutrition >professionals, that starts at the recruiting stage (in the universities). >If they come out of their internships with poor skills, that is the fault >of the internship program and their credentaling should be investigated. > People still attend conferences & workshops, chosing to pay attention or >to network or (literally, knit). That still hasn't changed. > > I agree the process can be cumbersome (I just threw all my CEU >certificates into my notebook, then one day sat in front of the computer to >input about 90 hours but haven't " submitted " yet). Good CEU forms will >have objectives and suggested codes on them (that is how I set up the forms >for the conference I organized last year). Poor ones just have the name of >the topic and the hours (so you have to keep a copy of the program or flyer >and a couple of notes to remind you what you learned). > > So good conference/seminar organizers need to help us out with the >proper information. > > Again, if you aren't a member, then you can't complain. Because you >cannot be part of the process for change. > > For anyone that is not an ADA member, that is your choice. But please >don't ask those of us who are members to use our membership number to >purchase education materials or books using our discount. Or access the >members section of the website or the evidenced-based library using our >accounts. And if you attend local district meetings/education sessions, >please make sure you pay the full attending price (and not try to register >at the member-discounted fee). > > Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE >Pediatric Dietitian & Diabetes Educator > NDA Past President, Las Vegas, NV > >Digna Cassens wrote: > I still believe there are easier ways to do this, and I do not >believe that we become better pratitioners with this plan, and would be >worse without it. I really have not seen any remarkable improvements or >changes in most RDs practice, and the few loopholes in the system have been >used to their best advantage at times. What I do observe is that there are >fewer and fewer dietetic professionals, and I have a very difficult time >recruiting for all levels. I also see that there are some very poor >performers, and although I have purposely double checked what their >learning plans for the PDP are, I see that the plans are accepted and >acceptable, but their performance is still marginal to dangerous. The PDP >does not solve that. > > > . > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Got a little couch potato? >Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 No, those comments were not specific to your issues with your medical library's improper dropping of JADA subscription. It's a benefit to members, certainly, but it should also be available (the hard copy) in any hospital medical library. Please request your library restart it's subscription. It's just overall experience I've seen/heard about with some RDs and facilities who do not have ADA membership but making requests of other RDs with memberships to obtain materials or access to CEU opportunities at the discounted rate. Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE " Diane Preves M.S.,R.D. " wrote: Holly, I'm not sure if your comments were directed towards my request for info last week regardig JADA. It seems they are. I was asking the list if anyone knew of another way to access JADA (thinking that I had seen them on medical journal data bases in the past). When the librarian found that they used to be, but have been discontinued since 2003, I thought that a little odd. . --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 CDR is an arm of ADA. Comments should be addressed to both entities. I would like to know which makes decisions on educational requirements including continuing ed. Re: CDR Discussion My point is that I think you should take your comments to CDR, not ADA. Holly Merav Levi- wrote: Holly, I have to strongly disagree with when you said that if I am not a member I don't have the right to complain. I ahve a very true right to compalin b/c the PDP applies to all RDs and DTRs regardless of memebrship and I am still an RD. I submited mine and cleared till 2010. . --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 I did not take Holly's comment to be directed at anyone. But she is quite right on the situation. I was a member of the House of Delegates when that issue was discussed. Yes, there are RDs that indeed are wanting ADA member benefits and are not members of the Association. Whether they realize it is right or not, it is not a good policy to extend member benefits to non-members. And it is correct that CDR is our credentialing body and changes need to be directed to them. CDR representatives are elected by members and are responsible for policy. I realize that they might think that 3,000 members signed the petition which means 70,000 did not. I am not sure how those numbers are interpreted but it could be the process. I too have had the pleasure of working on issues with Judy Gilbride (aka Guilbride) and she has given a lot of hours and time to the Association. Although I did not know her before she became President, I found her to be warm and personable yet challenged members to take on leadership roles. I have challenged her right back on issues and decisions. And she was respectful and understood my opinions. Actually her media portfolio is pretty thick meaning she has promoted our profession in many outlets. It is hard to comment on her reply on the petition, since it is paraphrased and interpreted. But would it not make more sense simply to call her and have coffee over the issue? Especially if someone is a graduate from the institution she is associated with. Seems like an easier way to break down some of these perceived barriers. But stories are created by the media and somewhat sensationalized. But as we see the explosion of citizen journalism, we are learning the media outlets are changing and where persons get the information. Did you know that SNL influenced 39% of voters (ages 29-45) in the last Presidential election? And speaking of citizen journalism, netroots and all the other changes, communication and presentation style does have impact. Yes, we all hurry and send out those emails too fast. But I wonder if Digna’s reference on poor performers is the candidates she has in her pool that cannot spell or use proper grammar. I too am a bit surprised by this. It does effect the profession’s image and credibility. So maybe we do need some sort of oversight on our continuing education a bit more than we think. We need to help poor performers improve if they carry the credential. I think diverse opinions are important and enjoyed this discussion, Pat Pat Raimondi MS, RD Senior Partner The Milestone Group Marketing and Research ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 I totally agree. The discussion is getting out of control. Perhaps we need to throw some male testosterone into the mix? LOL. Rita Wells, R.D. Registered Dietitian RE: CDR Discussion If I may make a suggestion, I think it would be a good thing if everyone steps back a minute. I would not want this discussion to get out of hand.. I value each and every one of your and your opinions. Although we are not able to make changes with the PDP process and feedback from CDR and the past president of the ADA has been less than desirable, we all must admit that the system is what it is. Do we have 100% accept it? No, we can make ongoing attempts make improvements in the process or submit suggestions for revisions. Yes, I agree that it would have been better if the CDR submitted a proposal for the change to the system we have, but that didn't happen. Our professional organization AND CDR isn't set up on the premise that we vote on referendums or changes. That we why we must vote in the annual election and open the lines of communication with those who represent us. We can only strive to get our points across. We may be able to get them to hear us, but they may not want to listen. That is a hurdle we must continually strive for in our goals. Until then we must live with it and make the most of it that we can. We are professionals, we can do this. Everyone's input here has been enlightening. I have learned from the contributions here. I am going to continue to make the best of the PDP system to help mold me into a better dietitian. Carol CarolSCasey@ gmail.com " You'll never do a whole lot unless you're brave enough to try. " Dolly Parton http://nutritionalm atters.blogspot. com " I am a border ruffian from the State of Missouri. I am a Connecticut Yankee by adoption. In me you have Missouri morals, Connecticut culture; this, gentlemen and ladies, is the combination which makes the perfect woman. " Paraphrased from Mark Twain's speech " Plymouth Rock and the Pilgrims, " December 22, 1881 " My weaknesses have always been food and men - in that order " . Dolly Parton .._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Unfortunately, my candidates can spell and use propre grammar, but they cannot assess; I notice the identify risk factors, weight and skin status, labs, prioritize interventions by analyzing cost vs benefit to the resident, establishing short and long-term goals, develop plans of care. In general, a few that have worked for me in the past and I've made sure for as short a time as possible, use a cookie-cutter type of assessment, and implement the same or similar plans for everyone without logic or common sense. We can't jump from data collection to a plan and have no assessment, argument or discussion that flows into the development of the plan, and many do that. I don't expect everyone to arrive knowing expectations, but once oriented to the process, they should then know it and follow it. It's standard of practice. I also realize these issues do have more to do with undergrad and internship education, as well as the individual's performance ability, and not entirely on continuing education, which is just that; a means by which we don't become stagnant in the profession, learn new developments and skills, and maintain competency level. There must be a base on which to build. But all that being said, i don't really believe this PDP method is any better than the old method, or that which other professions are using, I just find it more cumbersome and at the beginning frustrating as hell. But as with everything in life, adaptability is a wonderful thing... Digna Re: CDR Discussion I did not take Holly's comment to be directed at anyone. But she is quite right on the situation. I was a member of the House of Delegates when that issue was discussed. Yes, there are RDs that indeed are wanting ADA member benefits and are not members of the Association. Whether they realize it is right or not, it is not a good policy to extend member benefits to non-members. And it is correct that CDR is our credentialing body and changes need to be directed to them. CDR representatives are elected by members and are responsible for policy. I realize that they might think that 3,000 members signed the petition which means 70,000 did not. I am not sure how those numbers are interpreted but it could be the process. I too have had the pleasure of working on issues with Judy Gilbride (aka Guilbride) and she has given a lot of hours and time to the Association. Although I did not know her before she became President, I found her to be warm and personable yet challenged members to take on leadership roles. I have challenged her right back on issues and decisions. And she was respectful and understood my opinions. Actually her media portfolio is pretty thick meaning she has promoted our profession in many outlets. It is hard to comment on her reply on the petition, since it is paraphrased and interpreted. But would it not make more sense simply to call her and have coffee over the issue? Especially if someone is a graduate from the institution she is associated with. Seems like an easier way to break down some of these perceived barriers. But stories are created by the media and somewhat sensationalized. But as we see the explosion of citizen journalism, we are learning the media outlets are changing and where persons get the information. Did you know that SNL influenced 39% of voters (ages 29-45) in the last Presidential election? And speaking of citizen journalism, netroots and all the other changes, communication and presentation style does have impact. Yes, we all hurry and send out those emails too fast. But I wonder if Digna’s reference on poor performers is the candidates she has in her pool that cannot spell or use proper grammar. I too am a bit surprised by this. It does effect the profession’s image and credibility. So maybe we do need some sort of oversight on our continuing education a bit more than we think. We need to help poor performers improve if they carry the credential. I think diverse opinions are important and enjoyed this discussion, Pat Pat Raimondi MS, RD Senior Partner The Milestone Group Marketing and Research ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Now I've got to step in, ladies. If you're referring to Merav's grammar and spelling, I challenge any of you to speak let alone write another language that is not your native, birth language. I do, but I learned both from childhood and so am better able to use the grammatical rules, and yet, still make mistakes in both. I am not too concerned about spelling and grammar on emails, as I also chat w my grandsons who use a very strange set of symbols and abbreviations nowadays both for texting and emailing. I hope this discussion does not deteriorate into a personal issues and insults discussion. That's not fair. You're entitled to your opinions and everyone else is to theirs, but picking on personal traits or problems is not what this is about. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD http://groups.msn.com/RDForum Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis Re: CDR Discussion I did not take Holly's comment to be directed at anyone. But she is quite right on the situation. I was a member of the House of Delegates when that issue was discussed. Yes, there are RDs that indeed are wanting ADA member benefits and are not members of the Association. Whether they realize it is right or not, it is not a good policy to extend member benefits to non-members. And it is correct that CDR is our credentialing body and changes need to be directed to them. CDR representatives are elected by members and are responsible for policy. I realize that they might think that 3,000 members signed the petition which means 70,000 did not. I am not sure how those numbers are interpreted but it could be the process. I too have had the pleasure of working on issues with Judy Gilbride (aka Guilbride) and she has given a lot of hours and time to the Association. Although I did not know her before she became President, I found her to be warm and personable yet challenged members to take on leadership roles. I have challenged her right back on issues and decisions. And she was respectful and understood my opinions. Actually her media portfolio is pretty thick meaning she has promoted our profession in many outlets. It is hard to comment on her reply on the petition, since it is paraphrased and interpreted. But would it not make more sense simply to call her and have coffee over the issue? Especially if someone is a graduate from the institution she is associated with. Seems like an easier way to break down some of these perceived barriers. But stories are created by the media and somewhat sensationalized. But as we see the explosion of citizen journalism, we are learning the media outlets are changing and where persons get the information. Did you know that SNL influenced 39% of voters (ages 29-45) in the last Presidential election? And speaking of citizen journalism, netroots and all the other changes, communication and presentation style does have impact. Yes, we all hurry and send out those emails too fast. But I wonder if Digna's reference on poor performers is the candidates she has in her pool that cannot spell or use proper grammar. I too am a bit surprised by this. It does effect the profession's image and credibility. So maybe we do need some sort of oversight on our continuing education a bit more than we think. We need to help poor performers improve if they carry the credential. I think diverse opinions are important and enjoyed this discussion, Pat Pat Raimondi MS, RD Senior Partner The Milestone Group Marketing and Research ************ ********* ********* ******** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover. aol.com/memed/ aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 I appologize for the second row sentence in this message as it doesn't make sense. I intended to say: " they are unable to indentify risk factors....... etc " I have no idea how I inserted " I notice the " . Re: CDR Discussion I did not take Holly's comment to be directed at anyone. But she is quite right on the situation. I was a member of the House of Delegates when that issue was discussed. Yes, there are RDs that indeed are wanting ADA member benefits and are not members of the Association. Whether they realize it is right or not, it is not a good policy to extend member benefits to non-members. And it is correct that CDR is our credentialing body and changes need to be directed to them. CDR representatives are elected by members and are responsible for policy. I realize that they might think that 3,000 members signed the petition which means 70,000 did not. I am not sure how those numbers are interpreted but it could be the process. I too have had the pleasure of working on issues with Judy Gilbride (aka Guilbride) and she has given a lot of hours and time to the Association. Although I did not know her before she became President, I found her to be warm and personable yet challenged members to take on leadership roles. I have challenged her right back on issues and decisions. And she was respectful and understood my opinions. Actually her media portfolio is pretty thick meaning she has promoted our profession in many outlets. It is hard to comment on her reply on the petition, since it is paraphrased and interpreted. But would it not make more sense simply to call her and have coffee over the issue? Especially if someone is a graduate from the institution she is associated with. Seems like an easier way to break down some of these perceived barriers. But stories are created by the media and somewhat sensationalized. But as we see the explosion of citizen journalism, we are learning the media outlets are changing and where persons get the information. Did you know that SNL influenced 39% of voters (ages 29-45) in the last Presidential election? And speaking of citizen journalism, netroots and all the other changes, communication and presentation style does have impact. Yes, we all hurry and send out those emails too fast. But I wonder if Digna’s reference on poor performers is the candidates she has in her pool that cannot spell or use proper grammar. I too am a bit surprised by this. It does effect the profession’s image and credibility. So maybe we do need some sort of oversight on our continuing education a bit more than we think. We need to help poor performers improve if they carry the credential. I think diverse opinions are important and enjoyed this discussion, Pat Pat Raimondi MS, RD Senior Partner The Milestone Group Marketing and Research ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 We are in the USA so even though it's a melting pot, I strongly believe it is important to learn the proper Enlish language. If I went to France I'm sure they would expect the same. In fact, I did travel to France and they didn't attempt to speak English to me. Rita Wells, R.D. Registered Dietitian Re: CDR Discussion I did not take Holly's comment to be directed at anyone. But she is quite right on the situation. I was a member of the House of Delegates when that issue was discussed. Yes, there are RDs that indeed are wanting ADA member benefits and are not members of the Association. Whether they realize it is right or not, it is not a good policy to extend member benefits to non-members. And it is correct that CDR is our credentialing body and changes need to be directed to them. CDR representatives are elected by members and are responsible for policy. I realize that they might think that 3,000 members signed the petition which means 70,000 did not. I am not sure how those numbers are interpreted but it could be the process. I too have had the pleasure of working on issues with Judy Gilbride (aka Guilbride) and she has given a lot of hours and time to the Association. Although I did not know her before she became President, I found her to be warm and personable yet challenged members to take on leadership roles. I have challenged her right back on issues and decisions. And she was respectful and understood my opinions. Actually her media portfolio is pretty thick meaning she has promoted our profession in many outlets. It is hard to comment on her reply on the petition, since it is paraphrased and interpreted. But would it not make more sense simply to call her and have coffee over the issue? Especially if someone is a graduate from the institution she is associated with. Seems like an easier way to break down some of these perceived barriers. But stories are created by the media and somewhat sensationalized. But as we see the explosion of citizen journalism, we are learning the media outlets are changing and where persons get the information. Did you know that SNL influenced 39% of voters (ages 29-45) in the last Presidential election? And speaking of citizen journalism, netroots and all the other changes, communication and presentation style does have impact. Yes, we all hurry and send out those emails too fast. But I wonder if Digna's reference on poor performers is the candidates she has in her pool that cannot spell or use proper grammar. I too am a bit surprised by this. It does effect the profession's image and credibility. So maybe we do need some sort of oversight on our continuing education a bit more than we think. We need to help poor performers improve if they carry the credential. I think diverse opinions are important and enjoyed this discussion, Pat Pat Raimondi MS, RD Senior Partner The Milestone Group Marketing and Research ************ ********* ********* ******** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover. aol.com/memed/ aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 Yep Collier, RD Shore Memorial Hospital 9507 Hospital Avenue PO Box 17 Nassawadox, VA 23413 fax To eat is a necessity, but to eat intelligently is an art. -LaRoche foucauld Re: CDR Discussion We are in the USA so even though it's a melting pot, I strongly believe it is important to learn the proper Enlish language. If I went to France I'm sure they would expect the same. In fact, I did travel to France and they didn't attempt to speak English to me. Rita Wells, R.D. Registered Dietitian Re: CDR Discussion I did not take Holly's comment to be directed at anyone. But she is quite right on the situation. I was a member of the House of Delegates when that issue was discussed. Yes, there are RDs that indeed are wanting ADA member benefits and are not members of the Association. Whether they realize it is right or not, it is not a good policy to extend member benefits to non-members. And it is correct that CDR is our credentialing body and changes need to be directed to them. CDR representatives are elected by members and are responsible for policy. I realize that they might think that 3,000 members signed the petition which means 70,000 did not. I am not sure how those numbers are interpreted but it could be the process. I too have had the pleasure of working on issues with Judy Gilbride (aka Guilbride) and she has given a lot of hours and time to the Association. Although I did not know her before she became President, I found her to be warm and personable yet challenged members to take on leadership roles. I have challenged her right back on issues and decisions. And she was respectful and understood my opinions. Actually her media portfolio is pretty thick meaning she has promoted our profession in many outlets. It is hard to comment on her reply on the petition, since it is paraphrased and interpreted. But would it not make more sense simply to call her and have coffee over the issue? Especially if someone is a graduate from the institution she is associated with. Seems like an easier way to break down some of these perceived barriers. But stories are created by the media and somewhat sensationalized. But as we see the explosion of citizen journalism, we are learning the media outlets are changing and where persons get the information. Did you know that SNL influenced 39% of voters (ages 29-45) in the last Presidential election? And speaking of citizen journalism, netroots and all the other changes, communication and presentation style does have impact. Yes, we all hurry and send out those emails too fast. But I wonder if Digna's reference on poor performers is the candidates she has in her pool that cannot spell or use proper grammar. I too am a bit surprised by this. It does effect the profession's image and credibility. So maybe we do need some sort of oversight on our continuing education a bit more than we think. We need to help poor performers improve if they carry the credential. I think diverse opinions are important and enjoyed this discussion, Pat Pat Raimondi MS, RD Senior Partner The Milestone Group Marketing and Research ************ ********* ********* ******** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover. aol.com/memed/ aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 I have a right to my own opinion. I've been reading Merva's ongoing negative talk about ADA and the portfolio program and getting upset that she hasn't come up with a positive solution. Rita Wells, R.D. Registered Dietitian Re: CDR Discussion I did not take Holly's comment to be directed at anyone. But she is quite right on the situation. I was a member of the House of Delegates when that issue was discussed. Yes, there are RDs that indeed are wanting ADA member benefits and are not members of the Association. Whether they realize it is right or not, it is not a good policy to extend member benefits to non-members. And it is correct that CDR is our credentialing body and changes need to be directed to them. CDR representatives are elected by members and are responsible for policy. I realize that they might think that 3,000 members signed the petition which means 70,000 did not. I am not sure how those numbers are interpreted but it could be the process. I too have had the pleasure of working on issues with Judy Gilbride (aka Guilbride) and she has given a lot of hours and time to the Association. Although I did not know her before she became President, I found her to be warm and personable yet challenged members to take on leadership roles. I have challenged her right back on issues and decisions. And she was respectful and understood my opinions. Actually her media portfolio is pretty thick meaning she has promoted our profession in many outlets. It is hard to comment on her reply on the petition, since it is paraphrased and interpreted. But would it not make more sense simply to call her and have coffee over the issue? Especially if someone is a graduate from the institution she is associated with. Seems like an easier way to break down some of these perceived barriers. But stories are created by the media and somewhat sensationalized. But as we see the explosion of citizen journalism, we are learning the media outlets are changing and where persons get the information. Did you know that SNL influenced 39% of voters (ages 29-45) in the last Presidential election? And speaking of citizen journalism, netroots and all the other changes, communication and presentation style does have impact. Yes, we all hurry and send out those emails too fast. But I wonder if Digna¢s reference on poor performers is the candidates she has in her pool that cannot spell or use proper grammar. I too am a bit surprised by this. It does effect the profession¢s image and credibility. So maybe we do need some sort of oversight on our continuing education a bit more than we think. We need to help poor performers improve if they carry the credential. I think diverse opinions are important and enjoyed this discussion, Pat Pat Raimondi MS, RD Senior Partner The Milestone Group Marketing and Research ************ ********* ********* ******** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover. aol.com/memed/ aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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